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 by: fridtjof.ma...@gmail - Tue, 4 Oct 2022 18:46 UTC

On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:11:47 PM UTC-4, fridtjof.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone have
>
> 1 - Scan of the S-BASIC manual (Kaypro) SBASIC.COM 5.4b is the
> preferred version, but anything is welcome.
>
> 2 - There are some claims that the source for S-BASIC itself was
> supplied (sometimes). Does anyone have that?
>
> Fred Weigel
No answers yet... I presume then that these are "gone"?

FredW

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 by: Captain Nemo - Tue, 4 Oct 2022 20:19 UTC

>> 1 - Scan of the S-BASIC manual (Kaypro) SBASIC.COM 5.4b is the
>> preferred version, but anything is welcome.
>>
>> 2 - There are some claims that the source for S-BASIC itself was
>> supplied (sometimes). Does anyone have that?
>>
>> Fred Weigel
> No answers yet... I presume then that these are "gone"?

I've never seen the source code anywhere for S-BASIC, so you are probably
right about being "gone".

I assume that you've done the usual checks (like archive.org) for a scan
of the S-BASIC manual and come up empty. If that's the case, you are
probably out of luck there too.

I have the paper version of the manual that I use on my Kaypro 4/83.

I think the reason you don't see much about S-BASIC is because Turbo
Pascal was so much better.

I did some experiments last year with S-BASIC. Basically, I converted
some simple MS-BASIC programs over to both S-BASIC and Turbo Pascal. The
amount of work needed was about the same - since S-BASIC is BASIC in some
keywords only.

But the overall experience between S-BASIC and Turbo Pascal made S-BASIC
look pretty dated. There was no IDE for S-BASIC. So it was fire up a
text editor, enter your code, save, exit, fire up the compiler (which took
much longer than Turbo Pascal), see you had an error. Remember the error
line number, fire up the editor again, fix your error, exit the editor,
run the compiler again. Ugh!

If Turbo Pascal hadn't come out, S-BASIC would probably have gotten more
traction, but with Turbo Pascal as a competitor, there was no draw for S-
BASIC and it languished.

There is a Kaypro S-BASIC manual on eBay right now for a reasonable
price. I do remember seeing that today.

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