On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:11:47 PM UTC-4, fridtjof.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
> Does anyone have
>
> 1 - Scan of the S-BASIC manual (Kaypro) SBASIC.COM 5.4b is the
> preferred version, but anything is welcome.
>
> 2 - There are some claims that the source for S-BASIC itself was
> supplied (sometimes). Does anyone have that?
>
> Fred Weigel
Fred--
I have a scan (PDF) I made from my paper copy of the manual. I'll be happy to email you a copy. Your email address is truncated by google groups, but if you email me at ssmitch at gmail dot com I'll send it to you. By the way, although I agree with Captain Nemo that interest in S-BASIC pretty much fell by the wayside with the introduction of Turbo Pascal, with it's far superior user interface, S-BASIC had a number of interesting features and I wrote a number of programs with it "back in the day." I still have it up and running (I use myz80 running under DosBox on a Windows 7 machine) but only for playing around. If you check out Rosetta Code, there are about 20 examples of S-BASIC code that I have uploaded to that site. As far as I know, the source code was never a part of the distribution, but there is a suggestion in the manual (see the discussion of I/O channel 9) that at one point it was planned to include the source code for one of the two supplied libraries (USRLIB.REL) in the distribution. But as far as I know, this was never done.

Steve Mitchell

On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 4:47:10 PM UTC+1, Stephen Mitchell wrote:
> On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:11:47 PM UTC-4, fridtjof.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Does anyone have
> >
> > 1 - Scan of the S-BASIC manual (Kaypro) SBASIC.COM 5.4b is the
> > preferred version, but anything is welcome.
> >
> > 2 - There are some claims that the source for S-BASIC itself was
> > supplied (sometimes). Does anyone have that?
> >
> > Fred Weigel
> Fred--
> I have a scan (PDF) I made from my paper copy of the manual. I'll be happy to email you a copy. Your email address is truncated by google groups, but if you email me at ssmitch at gmail dot com I'll send it to you. By the way, although I agree with Captain Nemo that interest in S-BASIC pretty much fell by the wayside with the introduction of Turbo Pascal, with it's far superior user interface, S-BASIC had a number of interesting features and I wrote a number of programs with it "back in the day." I still have it up and running (I use myz80 running under DosBox on a Windows 7 machine) but only for playing around. If you check out Rosetta Code, there are about 20 examples of S-BASIC code that I have uploaded to that site. As far as I know, the source code was never a part of the distribution, but there is a suggestion in the manual (see the discussion of I/O channel 9) that at one point it was planned to include the source code for one of the two supplied libraries (USRLIB.REL) in the distribution. But as far as I know, this was never done.
>
> Steve Mitchell
Hi Steve,
Could you please copy me in on a scan of the manual? I've been trying to track one down as well and have had no joy, and it'd be MUCH appreciated! :) Would it be worth putting a copy with the Internet Archive for the sake of preservation?

Jasmin

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 7:51:37 AM UTC-4, Jasmin Loves The Ocean wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 5, 2022 at 4:47:10 PM UTC+1, Stephen Mitchell wrote:
> > On Friday, September 30, 2022 at 3:11:47 PM UTC-4, fridtjof.ma...@gmail..com wrote:
> > > Does anyone have
> > >
> > > 1 - Scan of the S-BASIC manual (Kaypro) SBASIC.COM 5.4b is the
> > > preferred version, but anything is welcome.
> > >
> > > 2 - There are some claims that the source for S-BASIC itself was
> > > supplied (sometimes). Does anyone have that?
> > >
> > > Fred Weigel
> > Fred--
> > I have a scan (PDF) I made from my paper copy of the manual. I'll be happy to email you a copy. Your email address is truncated by google groups, but if you email me at ssmitch at gmail dot com I'll send it to you. By the way, although I agree with Captain Nemo that interest in S-BASIC pretty much fell by the wayside with the introduction of Turbo Pascal, with it's far superior user interface, S-BASIC had a number of interesting features and I wrote a number of programs with it "back in the day." I still have it up and running (I use myz80 running under DosBox on a Windows 7 machine) but only for playing around. If you check out Rosetta Code, there are about 20 examples of S-BASIC code that I have uploaded to that site. As far as I know, the source code was never a part of the distribution, but there is a suggestion in the manual (see the discussion of I/O channel 9) that at one point it was planned to include the source code for one of the two supplied libraries (USRLIB.REL) in the distribution. But as far as I know, this was never done.
> >
> > Steve Mitchell
> Hi Steve,
> Could you please copy me in on a scan of the manual? I've been trying to track one down as well and have had no joy, and it'd be MUCH appreciated! :) Would it be worth putting a copy with the Internet Archive for the sake of preservation?
>
> Jasmin
Be

I'll be happy to. But Google Groups doesn't show me your email address, so please send me a follow up email to ssmitch at gmail dot com. Several folks have received a copy since my initial response, and I agree it would be a good idea if someone who has received it can post it to a site where others can find it.

Steve

On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 3:59:49 PM UTC-4, Stephen Mitchell wrote:

> I'll be happy to. But Google Groups doesn't show me your email address, so please send me a follow up email to ssmitch at gmail dot com. Several folks have received a copy since my initial response, and I agree it would be a good idea if someone who has received it can post it to a site where others can find it.
>
> Steve
It (along with the compiler itself) is on

https://web.archive.org/web/20170103152642/http://www.nostalgia8.nl/cpm/basic/sbasic.zip

On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 3:50:12 PM UTC-4, Tom Lake wrote:
> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 3:59:49 PM UTC-4, Stephen Mitchell wrote:
>
> > I'll be happy to. But Google Groups doesn't show me your email address, so please send me a follow up email to ssmitch at gmail dot com. Several folks have received a copy since my initial response, and I agree it would be a good idea if someone who has received it can post it to a site where others can find it.
> >
> > Steve
> It (along with the compiler itself) is on
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170103152642/http://www.nostalgia8.nl/cpm/basic/sbasic.zip
Sadly, while the zip file includes an introduction, some programming notes, and a HLP file I wrote way back when (1987?), it does not include the manual itself. I would love to upload the manual to some place where folks could easily find it and would be grateful for any suggestions.

Steve

Am 10/29/2022 01:12 AM, Stephen Mitchell schrieb:
> On Thursday, October 27, 2022 at 3:50:12 PM UTC-4, Tom Lake wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 20, 2022 at 3:59:49 PM UTC-4, Stephen Mitchell wrote:
>>
>>> I'll be happy to. But Google Groups doesn't show me your email address, so please send me a follow up email to ssmitch at gmail dot com. Several folks have received a copy since my initial response, and I agree it would be a good idea if someone who has received it can post it to a site where others can find it.
>>>
>>> Steve
>> It (along with the compiler itself) is on
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20170103152642/http://www.nostalgia8.nl/cpm/basic/sbasic.zip
> Sadly, while the zip file includes an introduction, some programming notes, and a HLP file I wrote way back when (1987?), it does not include the manual itself. I would love to upload the manual to some place where folks could easily find it and would be grateful for any suggestions.
>
> Steve
>

A good home would be

Gene Buckle's "Commercial CP/M Software Archive"
<http://www.retroarchive.org/>

Thank you very much!
Martin

Hi,

here a test with SBASIC.

comment
mem.bas -- display CP/M memory map
written for SBASIC compiler
Addresses for BDOS and CCP are calculated from BIOS base
and will reflect actual rather than apparent locations.
TPA calculation will therefore correctly reflect reduction
in available memory that occurs when a resident system
extension (RSX) is installed.
Update Kurt Pieper Germany
end

var msize, tpa = real
var rsx_installed = string : 5
var home, rvs, nrm curon, curoff = string : 6
var clr, cleol, cleos = string : 3

clr = chr$(12)
home = chr$(27) + "[1;1H"
rvs = chr$(27) + "[7m"
nrm = chr$(27) + "[0m"
cleol = chr$(27) + "[K"
cleos = chr$(27) + "[J"
curon = chr$(27) + "[?25h"
curoff = chr$(27) + "[?25l"

print home;clr;curoff;
print "SBASIC Date: 10/30/2022 "
print "Test with Z80 Board (sc114)"
print
print "Start of BIOS : "; hex$(peek(2) * 100H)
print "Start of BDOS : "; hex$((peek(2) - 0EH) * 100H + peek(6))
print "Start of CCP : "; hex$((peek(2) - 16H) * 100H)
print

msize = 256 * peek(2) rem BIOS base
msize = msize - 18944 rem BIOS address in 20K system
msize = (msize / 1024) + 20 rem adjust and convert to K

rem Calculate available TPA in K based on apparent BDOS address
tpa = 256 * (peek(7) - 1) / 1024

print "CP/M size :"; msize; "K"
print "Available TPA :"; tpa; "K"

rem check whether actual and apparent BDOS entries differ
if peek(2) - 0EH = peek(7) then
rsx_installed = "No"
else
rsx_installed = "Yes"

print "RSX installed : "; rvs;rsx_installed;nrm

var x=char
print
input2 "End --> Press <Ret> to continue";x
PRINT "bye";curon

end