I just downloaded and installed the latest version of TB from the TB
website. The only change in this release is "Update channel for
Thunderbird 115 is now esr.".

What does that mean? I was previously on the latest regular release
(non-beta).

Is this just the same channel only renamed?

Thanks,
Bill

On 5/4/2024 2:28 PM, Bill H wrote:
> I just downloaded and installed the latest version of TB from the TB website.  The only change in this release is "Update channel for Thunderbird 115 is now esr.".
>
> What does that mean?  I was previously on the latest regular release (non-beta).
>
> Is this just the same channel only renamed?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill

It means Mozilla has sniffed your OS, and discovered Win7 SP1.

This is like being shunted onto a railway siding. Once 115ESR
stops receiving updates, your copy will never update itself
after that.

They have to shunt you onto a siding, because if your copy
stays on the regular stream and tries to update past 115, the
install operation will fail. And they want only success cases:

Not Windows 7 115 ==> next release

Windows 7 115ESR ==> next 115ESR, until they run out of those, then it stops

This would not have happened if you were on W10 or W11.
Not sure about W8.1, but it could be in the same bucket as W7SP1.

Paul

On Saturday, May 04, 2024, at 05:04 PM, Paul wrote:

> On 5/4/2024 2:28 PM, Bill H wrote:
>> I just downloaded and installed the latest version of TB from the TB website.  The only change in this release is "Update channel for Thunderbird 115 is now esr.".
>>
>> What does that mean?  I was previously on the latest regular release (non-beta).
>>
>> Is this just the same channel only renamed?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bill
>
> It means Mozilla has sniffed your OS, and discovered Win7 SP1.
>
> This is like being shunted onto a railway siding. Once 115ESR
> stops receiving updates, your copy will never update itself
> after that.
>
> They have to shunt you onto a siding, because if your copy
> stays on the regular stream and tries to update past 115, the
> install operation will fail. And they want only success cases:
>
> Not Windows 7 115 ==> next release
>
> Windows 7 115ESR ==> next 115ESR, until they run out of those, then it stops
>
> This would not have happened if you were on W10 or W11.
> Not sure about W8.1, but it could be in the same bucket as W7SP1.
>
> Paul
>

I don't understand what you mean. I am not on Windows 7. I am on the
latest release of Windows 11.

If you go to the TB website and download the latest release, do you get
115.10.2?

And are they just changing the name of the release channel to the esr
channel?

Bill

On 5/4/2024 9:09 PM, Bill H wrote:
> On Saturday, May 04, 2024, at 05:04 PM, Paul wrote:
>
>> On 5/4/2024 2:28 PM, Bill H wrote:
>>> I just downloaded and installed the latest version of TB from the TB website.  The only change in this release is "Update channel for Thunderbird 115 is now esr.".
>>>
>>> What does that mean?  I was previously on the latest regular release (non-beta).
>>>
>>> Is this just the same channel only renamed?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>>
>> It means Mozilla has sniffed your OS, and discovered Win7 SP1.
>>
>> This is like being shunted onto a railway siding. Once 115ESR
>> stops receiving updates, your copy will never update itself
>> after that.
>>
>> They have to shunt you onto a siding, because if your copy
>> stays on the regular stream and tries to update past 115, the
>> install operation will fail. And they want only success cases:
>>
>>      Not Windows 7    115 ==> next release
>>
>>      Windows 7        115ESR ==> next 115ESR, until they run out of those, then it stops
>>
>> This would not have happened if you were on W10 or W11.
>> Not sure about W8.1, but it could be in the same bucket as W7SP1.
>>
>>     Paul
>>
>
> I don't understand what you mean.  I am not on Windows 7.  I am on the latest release of Windows 11.
>
> If you go to the TB website and download the latest release, do you get 115.10.2?
>
> And are they just changing the name of the release channel to the esr channel?
>
> Bill

Then we have to go back here and study our releases.

I think I'm confusing this with Firefox and Windows 7.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

Dir 115.0/
Dir 115.0esr/
Dir 115.0.1/
Dir 115.0.1esr/
Dir 115.0.2/
Dir 115.0.2esr/
Dir 115.0.3/ ==> jumps to 116.0/
Dir 115.0.3esr/
Dir 115.0/
Dir 115.0esr/
Dir 115.1.0esr/
Dir 115.10.0esr/ ==> Win7SP1 siding, end of this ESR sometime soon (in 2024)

Thunderbird is made from Firefox, and when the Firefox
no longer works on the Windows 7, my guess is the
Thunderbird won't work on Windows 7 either. The Thunderbirds
as far as I know, are based on Firefox ESR releases (for stability
and longevity).

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/

Dir 115.10.0/
Dir 115.10.1/ <=== Mine on Win10, won't go past this when I test right now.
Dir 115.10.2/ 01-May-2024 13:26 and today is 04-May

Dir 125.0/ 24-Apr-2024 15:31

So there we have it. A mystery. Two releases, two streams.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/1ciddud/thunderbird_1250_is_out_thunderbird_115102_is_now/

Thunderbird 125.0 is out, Thunderbird 115.10.2 is now ESR

No changelog for TB 125.0, but apparently it's the new monthly version.

No official communication about these change yet.

Maybe this means a Windows 10 person can manually install 125.
Whereas a Windows 7 person, would be getting 115.10.2 and
the About: info would say ESR, and if the Windows 7 person tried
to install 125, it would not work ? Presumably this is related
to what Thunderbird is built from.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird

10, Server 2016 and later 125.0 (x86-64) 2018–present
115.10.2 (x86-64) 2018–present

7, 8, 8.1, 2008 R2, 2012, 2012 R2 115.10.2 (x86-64) 2018–2024 <=== indicates near end

Scroll to the right, in this picture. I would *guess* at some point,
a Windows 10 115.10.2 user would jump to 125.x.x . Whereas a Win7 or Win8
user would be stuck on the last release of 115.x.x , whatever that is.

It's hard to say where 125 fits in the pattern here. It didn't get listed.
128 appears to be an ESR, which means 125 is a regular release.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/1u9rt8ii7ksx494kbjsq8a5doya3m67.png

https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Home

It's hard to say where 125 fits in the pattern here. It didn't get listed.
128 appears to be an ESR, which means 125 is a regular release.

Thunderbird - Upcoming Releases

Wednesday, May 1
Thunderbird 115.10.2

Tuesday, May 14
Thunderbird 115.11.0

Tuesday, June 11
Thunderbird 115.12.0

Tuesday, July 9
Thunderbird 115.13.0

Wednesday, July 10
Thunderbird 128.0esr
Thunderbird 129.0b1

Paul

On Saturday, May 04, 2024, at 07:03 PM, Paul wrote:

> On 5/4/2024 9:09 PM, Bill H wrote:
>> On Saturday, May 04, 2024, at 05:04 PM, Paul wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/4/2024 2:28 PM, Bill H wrote:
>>>> I just downloaded and installed the latest version of TB from the TB website.  The only change in this release is "Update channel for Thunderbird 115 is now esr.".
>>>>
>>>> What does that mean?  I was previously on the latest regular release (non-beta).
>>>>
>>>> Is this just the same channel only renamed?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Bill
>>>
>>> It means Mozilla has sniffed your OS, and discovered Win7 SP1.
>>>
>>> This is like being shunted onto a railway siding. Once 115ESR
>>> stops receiving updates, your copy will never update itself
>>> after that.
>>>
>>> They have to shunt you onto a siding, because if your copy
>>> stays on the regular stream and tries to update past 115, the
>>> install operation will fail. And they want only success cases:
>>>
>>>      Not Windows 7    115 ==> next release
>>>
>>>      Windows 7        115ESR ==> next 115ESR, until they run out of those, then it stops
>>>
>>> This would not have happened if you were on W10 or W11.
>>> Not sure about W8.1, but it could be in the same bucket as W7SP1.
>>>
>>>     Paul
>>>
>>
>> I don't understand what you mean.  I am not on Windows 7.  I am on the latest release of Windows 11.
>>
>> If you go to the TB website and download the latest release, do you get 115.10.2?
>>
>> And are they just changing the name of the release channel to the esr channel?
>>
>> Bill
>
> Then we have to go back here and study our releases.
>
> I think I'm confusing this with Firefox and Windows 7.
>
> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
>
> Dir 115.0/
> Dir 115.0esr/
> Dir 115.0.1/
> Dir 115.0.1esr/
> Dir 115.0.2/
> Dir 115.0.2esr/
> Dir 115.0.3/ ==> jumps to 116.0/
> Dir 115.0.3esr/
> Dir 115.0/
> Dir 115.0esr/
> Dir 115.1.0esr/
> Dir 115.10.0esr/ ==> Win7SP1 siding, end of this ESR sometime soon (in 2024)
>
> Thunderbird is made from Firefox, and when the Firefox
> no longer works on the Windows 7, my guess is the
> Thunderbird won't work on Windows 7 either. The Thunderbirds
> as far as I know, are based on Firefox ESR releases (for stability
> and longevity).
>
> http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/
>
> Dir 115.10.0/
> Dir 115.10.1/ <=== Mine on Win10, won't go past this when I test right now.
> Dir 115.10.2/ 01-May-2024 13:26 and today is 04-May
>
> Dir 125.0/ 24-Apr-2024 15:31
>
> So there we have it. A mystery. Two releases, two streams.
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/1ciddud/thunderbird_1250_is_out_thunderbird_115102_is_now/
>
> Thunderbird 125.0 is out, Thunderbird 115.10.2 is now ESR
>
> No changelog for TB 125.0, but apparently it's the new monthly version.
>
> No official communication about these change yet.
>
> Maybe this means a Windows 10 person can manually install 125.
> Whereas a Windows 7 person, would be getting 115.10.2 and
> the About: info would say ESR, and if the Windows 7 person tried
> to install 125, it would not work ? Presumably this is related
> to what Thunderbird is built from.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird
>
> 10, Server 2016 and later 125.0 (x86-64) 2018–present
> 115.10.2 (x86-64) 2018–present
>
> 7, 8, 8.1, 2008 R2, 2012, 2012 R2 115.10.2 (x86-64) 2018–2024 <=== indicates near end
>
> Scroll to the right, in this picture. I would *guess* at some point,
> a Windows 10 115.10.2 user would jump to 125.x.x . Whereas a Win7 or Win8
> user would be stuck on the last release of 115.x.x , whatever that is.
>
> It's hard to say where 125 fits in the pattern here. It didn't get listed.
> 128 appears to be an ESR, which means 125 is a regular release.
>
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/timeline/1u9rt8ii7ksx494kbjsq8a5doya3m67.png
>
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Home
>
> It's hard to say where 125 fits in the pattern here. It didn't get listed.
> 128 appears to be an ESR, which means 125 is a regular release.
>
> Thunderbird - Upcoming Releases
>
> Wednesday, May 1
> Thunderbird 115.10.2
>
> Tuesday, May 14
> Thunderbird 115.11.0
>
> Tuesday, June 11
> Thunderbird 115.12.0
>
> Tuesday, July 9
> Thunderbird 115.13.0
>
> Wednesday, July 10
> Thunderbird 128.0esr
> Thunderbird 129.0b1
>
> Paul
>

Thanks for the Reddit link. That explains whats going on. I'll stick
with the ESR channel. Updates monthly is too often for my taste.

Thanks,
Bill

On Sat, 4 May 2024 11:28:05 -0700, Bill H wrote:

> I just downloaded and installed the latest version of TB from the TB
> website. The only change in this release is "Update channel for
> Thunderbird 115 is now esr.".
>
> What does that mean? I was previously on the latest regular release
> (non-beta).
>
> Is this just the same channel only renamed?

The Thunderbird release channel has in practice been ESR for about the
last 11 years. So I doubt this will make much difference to what we
currently know as Thunderbird releases.

--
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🦊

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But she's loath to wet her feet.

On Sat, 4 May 2024 18:09:03 -0700, Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid>
wrote:

>On Saturday, May 04, 2024, at 05:04 PM, Paul wrote:
>
>> On 5/4/2024 2:28 PM, Bill H wrote:
>>> I just downloaded and installed the latest version of TB from the TB website.  The only change in this release is "Update channel for Thunderbird 115 is now esr.".
>>>
>>> What does that mean?  I was previously on the latest regular release (non-beta).
>>>
>>> Is this just the same channel only renamed?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bill
>>
>> It means Mozilla has sniffed your OS, and discovered Win7 SP1.

<snippered>

>> This would not have happened if you were on W10 or W11.

<cauterised again>

>I don't understand what you mean. I am not on Windows 7. I am on the
>latest release of Windows 11.

Ditto for me on Win 11... noted the ESR labelling.

Paul wrote:

> Thunderbird 125.0 is out

Is it? All I see is an empty placeholder release notes page
<https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/125.0/releasenotes/>

> Thunderbird 115.10.2 is now ESR

On Win11, my TB 115.10.1 doesn't want to update itself to 115.10.2

On Sunday, May 05, 2024, at 10:05 AM, Andy Burns wrote:

> Paul wrote:
>
>> Thunderbird 125.0 is out
>
> Is it? All I see is an empty placeholder release notes page
> <https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/125.0/releasenotes/>

It is available here:

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/125.0/win64/

>
>> Thunderbird 115.10.2 is now ESR
>
> On Win11, my TB 115.10.1 doesn't want to update itself to 115.10.2

I downloaded it from the TB website here:

https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/all/#E

Bill

Bill H wrote:
> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Paul wrote:
>>
>>> Thunderbird 125.0 is out
>>
>> Is it?
>
> It is available here:
> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/125.0/win64/
"Eagle-eyed contributors may have noticed the presence of a Thunderbird
125.0 candidate build on the FTP site. This is our first attempt at
doing a monthly release similar to Firefox's, where a release build
follows the beta each month.
These builds are in very early stages, and we don't recommend anyone use
them yet. Soon, we will release a version of Thunderbird 115 that moves
ESR users to an ESR channel, freeing up the release channel. This
channel move will not have any visible effect for users and is for
internal release management and infrastructure purposes. Soon™ after
that point we will make these builds available on the website in some
capacity.
These monthly release builds will eventually become the default download
on the website, but not until many months of QA and process refinements
occur, and we are 100% certain that we can deliver a quality release."

On Sunday, May 05, 2024, at 11:49 AM, Andy Burns wrote:

>
> These monthly release builds will eventually become the default download
> on the website, but not until many months of QA and process refinements
> occur, and we are 100% certain that we can deliver a quality release."
>

Just what I need. With all the problems every time they put out a new
release, I really don't need a new release every month.

Bill

Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> wrote:
> On Sunday, May 05, 2024, at 11:49 AM, Andy Burns wrote:

> >
> > These monthly release builds will eventually become the default download
> > on the website, but not until many months of QA and process refinements
> > occur, and we are 100% certain that we can deliver a quality release."
> >

> Just what I need. With all the problems every time they put out a new
> release, I really don't need a new release every month.

Seriously. I wished developers and companies would stop rushing. Also,
stick with major versions for new features. Minor versions for fixes.

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On 05-May-2024 13:38, Bill H wrote:
> On Sunday, May 05, 2024, at 10:05 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Paul wrote:
>>
>>> Thunderbird 125.0 is out
>>
>> Is it?  All I see is an empty placeholder release notes page
>> <https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/125.0/releasenotes/>
>
> It is available here:
>
> https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/125.0/win64/
>
>>
>>> Thunderbird 115.10.2 is now ESR
>>
>> On Win11, my TB 115.10.1 doesn't want to update itself to 115.10.2
>
> I downloaded it from the TB website here:
>
> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/all/#E
>
> Bill

Just tried it and I get 115.10.2

On 5/5/2024 4:31 PM, Darth Ant wrote:
> Bill H <billh@domain.is.invalid> wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 05, 2024, at 11:49 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>>>
>>> These monthly release builds will eventually become the default download
>>> on the website, but not until many months of QA and process refinements
>>> occur, and we are 100% certain that we can deliver a quality release."
>>>
>
>> Just what I need. With all the problems every time they put out a new
>> release, I really don't need a new release every month.
>
> Seriously. I wished developers and companies would stop rushing. Also,
> stick with major versions for new features. Minor versions for fixes.
>

If you examine your release tree, it's not hard to figure out.

The developers need feedback on their beta-spree.

As a developer, you can't crank too many versions without
getting feedback of one sort or another. A small percentage
of the user population, may "partake" of the beta stream, but
perhaps at the moment, they're not getting enough participation.

It's like the Insider for Windows. If people install it, and
then just disconnect the hard drive, it hardly serves a purpose
(except to prove the installer still works).

When I see developers crank up another stream, it's not because
they "need extra work" on the infrastructure for that, it's because
they're looking for useful feedback or "impedance" while they work.

Paul

On 5/6/2024 9:51 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Retirednoguilt wrote:
>
>> When I open TB and manually inquire at "Help" > "About Thunderbird"
>> the screen says that I have 115.10.1 installed and have the most
>> recent version. Yet, if a do a FF web search on "Thunderbird" and
>> hover the mouse cursor over the big blue "Download" button, I can see
>> that that button will navigate me to a page to download 115.10.2.
> Not sure if 115.10.1 vs 115.10.2 will end up pointing you to v115-esr vs
> v128-beta updates ...

I'm not about to try that experiment because I've never had and
certainly don't want a beta version. When I left clicked and selected
copy link, this is what pastes:

https://download.mozilla.org/?product=thunderbird-115.10.2-SSL&os=win64&lang=en-US

No hint in the link's URL of it being an ESR or a beta version.

Retirednoguilt wrote:

> When I open TB and manually inquire at "Help" > "About Thunderbird"
> the screen says that I have 115.10.1 installed and have the most
> recent version. Yet, if a do a FF web search on "Thunderbird" and
> hover the mouse cursor over the big blue "Download" button, I can see
> that that button will navigate me to a page to download 115.10.2.
Not sure if 115.10.1 vs 115.10.2 will end up pointing you to v115-esr vs
v128-beta updates ...

On 5/5/2024 1:05 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>
>> Thunderbird 125.0 is out
>
> Is it? All I see is an empty placeholder release notes page
> <https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/125.0/releasenotes/>
>
>> Thunderbird 115.10.2 is now ESR
>
> On Win11, my TB 115.10.1 doesn't want to update itself to 115.10.2

Same with me on Win 10 64 bit home. I've been getting almost monthly
automatic updates to TB for several years and assume that I've got a
"release channel" version (which is fine by me). When I open TB and
manually inquire at "Help" > "About Thunderbird" the screen says that I
have 115.10.1 installed and have the most recent version. Yet, if a do
a FF web search on "Thunderbird" and hover the mouse cursor over the big
blue "Download" button, I can see that that button will navigate me to a
page to download 115.10.2. I would have chalked that up to timed
releases if today were May 1st or 2nd, but it's already May 6th. I'm
confused (although not concerned).

On Monday, May 06, 2024, at 06:51 AM, Andy Burns wrote:

> Retirednoguilt wrote:
>
>> When I open TB and manually inquire at "Help" > "About Thunderbird"
>> the screen says that I have 115.10.1 installed and have the most
>> recent version. Yet, if a do a FF web search on "Thunderbird" and
>> hover the mouse cursor over the big blue "Download" button, I can see
>> that that button will navigate me to a page to download 115.10.2.
> Not sure if 115.10.1 vs 115.10.2 will end up pointing you to v115-esr vs
> v128-beta updates ...

115.10.2 is the esr channel.

https://i.imgur.com/21NCkJu.png

Based on what was said here earlier, I think the release channel will be
the monthly updates and the esr channel will be less frequent. It
doesn't sound like either will be beta.

Bill

On 5/6/2024 11:41 AM, Bill H wrote:
> On Monday, May 06, 2024, at 06:51 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Retirednoguilt wrote:
>>
>>> When I open TB and manually inquire at "Help" > "About Thunderbird"
>>> the screen says that I have 115.10.1 installed and have the most
>>> recent version. Yet, if a do a FF web search on "Thunderbird" and
>>> hover the mouse cursor over the big blue "Download" button, I can see
>>> that that button will navigate me to a page to download 115.10.2.
>> Not sure if 115.10.1 vs 115.10.2 will end up pointing you to v115-esr vs
>> v128-beta updates ...
>
> 115.10.2 is the esr channel.
>
> https://i.imgur.com/21NCkJu.png
>
> Based on what was said here earlier, I think the release channel will be
> the monthly updates and the esr channel will be less frequent. It
> doesn't sound like either will be beta.
>
> Bill

Thanks for the clarification Bill. I'm not having any problem with my
ver. 115.10.1. I'll wait and see what gets pushed as the next monthly.

Andy Burns wrote:

> On Win11, my TB 115.10.1 doesn't want to update itself to 115.10.2

It has now changed its mind, and updated to 115.10.2 (esr update channel).

On Tuesday, May 14, 2024, at 11:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> On Win11, my TB 115.10.1 doesn't want to update itself to 115.10.2
>
> It has now changed its mind, and updated to 115.10.2 (esr update channel).
>

I was on 115.10.2 and just got updated to 115.11.0.

On 5/15/2024 4:21 PM, Bill H wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024, at 11:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> On Win11, my TB 115.10.1 doesn't want to update itself to 115.10.2
>>
>> It has now changed its mind, and updated to 115.10.2 (esr update channel).
>>
>
> I was on 115.10.2 and just got updated to 115.11.0.

I have auto update turned off. I just checked the "about" and see that
it is offering to update me to 115.11.0. However, when I clicked on the
"What's New" hyperlink just to the right side of the button to implement
the update, the page that opens says that I will be updating to an
unstable "Daily" version of Tb. This despite that the about box showing
I'm using 112.10.2 claims that I'm on the ESR channel.

Can anyone explain why an ESR version is offering to update me to an
unstable "Daily" version?

On 5/16/2024 10:18 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:
> On 5/15/2024 4:21 PM, Bill H wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024, at 11:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Win11, my TB 115.10.1 doesn't want to update itself to 115.10.2
>>>
>>> It has now changed its mind, and updated to 115.10.2 (esr update channel).
>>>
>>
>> I was on 115.10.2 and just got updated to 115.11.0.
>
> I have auto update turned off. I just checked the "about" and see that
> it is offering to update me to 115.11.0. However, when I clicked on the
> "What's New" hyperlink just to the right side of the button to implement
> the update, the page that opens says that I will be updating to an
> unstable "Daily" version of Tb. This despite that the about box showing
> I'm using 112.10.2 claims that I'm on the ESR channel.
>
> Can anyone explain why an ESR version is offering to update me to an
> unstable "Daily" version?

Correction. I meant to type, "This despite that the about box showing
I'm using 115.10.2.." I typed 112.10.2 in error.

On 16 May 2024 16:18, Retirednoguilt wrote:
>> I was on 115.10.2 and just got updated to 115.11.0.
> I have auto update turned off. I just checked the "about" and see that
> it is offering to update me to 115.11.0. However, when I clicked on the
> "What's New" hyperlink just to the right side of the button to implement
> the update, the page that opens says that I will be updating to an
> unstable "Daily" version of Tb.

There has been some confusion. Mozilla in general has four channels:
Daily, Beta, Release, ESR (extended service release).

TB only had Daily, Beta and ESR. However, they shipped the ESR version (91, 102,
115) on the "release" channel. Since in the future, they also want to ship a
release version, they had to move the ESR version from the release channel to the
ESR channel. That happened during the transition 115.10.1 and 115.10.2 and
apparently caused some hiccups. Should all be solved with 115.11.0 which is
shipping on the ESR channel.

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On Thursday, May 16, 2024, at 07:18 AM, Retirednoguilt wrote:

> On 5/15/2024 4:21 PM, Bill H wrote:
>> On Tuesday, May 14, 2024, at 11:11 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Win11, my TB 115.10.1 doesn't want to update itself to 115.10.2
>>>
>>> It has now changed its mind, and updated to 115.10.2 (esr update channel).
>>>
>>
>> I was on 115.10.2 and just got updated to 115.11.0.
>
> I have auto update turned off. I just checked the "about" and see that
> it is offering to update me to 115.11.0. However, when I clicked on the
> "What's New" hyperlink just to the right side of the button to implement
> the update, the page that opens says that I will be updating to an
> unstable "Daily" version of Tb. This despite that the about box showing
> I'm using 112.10.2 claims that I'm on the ESR channel.
>
> Can anyone explain why an ESR version is offering to update me to an
> unstable "Daily" version?

After letting TB update me from 115.10.2 to 115.11.0, in About it still
shows me as being on the esr channel.

Bill