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* Addressbook nickname distriution list expansionAdam H. Kerman
`* Addressbook nickname distriution list expansionHolger Schieferdecker
 `- Addressbook nickname distriution list expansionAdam H. Kerman

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Addressbook nickname distriution list expansion

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From: ahk@chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman)
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Subject: Addressbook nickname distriution list expansion
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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Sat, 20 May 2023 15:08 UTC

I almost never run into technical problems with alpine.

I use the alpine client on a remote host that I do not administer. It's
the Debian package of version 2.24. I don't even know if it's the latest
Debian package.

This isn't going to get updated because the host is being rebuilt, but I
wonder if anyone uses a Debian package and could check.

I don't really care for the built-in address book but I tend to nest
distribution lists and I sort of get it to do what I need it to do.
Specifically, I find it inconvenient to store the full name in that
field with multiple email addresses because the full name will appear
only with the first address and not the second. I solve this problem
either with nesting separate nicknames or putting the full name in the
field with each comma-separated email address.

In contacting students, I have a separate record for each student. In
this case, there is a single address per student.

I then create a distribution list which is a list of nicknames for those
single addresses.

If I am looking at the addressbook index, highlight the distribution
list, and use the compose command, the distribution list expands as
expected. However, if I'm in the composer and put the distribution
list's nickname on To, the distribution list doesn't expand. Instead
it's treated as the left part of the email address and the FQDN of the
host is appended as the right part.

Is anyone using a more recent package on Debian? Can you reproduce this
error?

Re: Addressbook nickname distriution list expansion

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Subject: Re: Addressbook nickname distriution list expansion
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 by: Holger Schieferdecke - Thu, 27 Jul 2023 12:46 UTC

Am 20.05.2023 um 17:08 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:
> In contacting students, I have a separate record for each student. In
> this case, there is a single address per student.
>
> I then create a distribution list which is a list of nicknames for those
> single addresses.
>
> If I am looking at the addressbook index, highlight the distribution
> list, and use the compose command, the distribution list expands as
> expected. However, if I'm in the composer and put the distribution
> list's nickname on To, the distribution list doesn't expand. Instead
> it's treated as the left part of the email address and the FQDN of the
> host is appended as the right part.
>
> Is anyone using a more recent package on Debian? Can you reproduce this
> error?

I'm not on Debian, but with PC Alpine 2.26 I can't reproduce that
behaviour. The distribution list expands with both methods. I tried it
with an old PC Alpine 2.20 and 2.23, these also show the desired behaviour.

Does the problem occur just on this specific host?

Holger

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Thu, 27 Jul 2023 13:27 UTC

Holger Schieferdecker <spamless@gmx.de> wrote:
>Am 20.05.2023 um 17:08 schrieb Adam H. Kerman:

>>In contacting students, I have a separate record for each student. In
>>this case, there is a single address per student.

>>I then create a distribution list which is a list of nicknames for those
>>single addresses.

>>If I am looking at the addressbook index, highlight the distribution
>>list, and use the compose command, the distribution list expands as
>>expected. However, if I'm in the composer and put the distribution
>>list's nickname on To, the distribution list doesn't expand. Instead
>>it's treated as the left part of the email address and the FQDN of the
>>host is appended as the right part.
>>Is anyone using a more recent package on Debian? Can you reproduce this
>>error?

>I'm not on Debian, but with PC Alpine 2.26 I can't reproduce that
>behaviour. The distribution list expands with both methods. I tried it
>with an old PC Alpine 2.20 and 2.23, these also show the desired behaviour.

>Does the problem occur just on this specific host?

It's the host with my main inbox. I don't use alpine on another host. I
suspect it's a problem with how it got packaged for Debian.

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