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* Client Stats?meff
+- Re: Client Stats?Ralph Fox
`* Re: Client Stats?Jason Evans
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 +- Re: Client Stats?Jason Evans
 `* Re: Client Stats?Daniel Goldsmith
  `- Re: Client Stats?Grant Taylor

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 by: meff - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 07:19 UTC

Has anyone compiled User-Agent statistics to see wich clients are in
use? If so I'd be interested in seeing them.

Re: Client Stats?

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 by: Ralph Fox - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 09:04 UTC

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 07:19:56 GMT, meff wrote:

> Has anyone compiled User-Agent statistics to see wich clients are in
> use? If so I'd be interested in seeing them.

FWIW, User-Agent statistics compiled in 2007:
<https://web.archive.org/web/20070925082306/http://www.newsreaders.com/link/clientstats.php?top=20>

--
Kind regards
Ralph

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shule þe on elde folewe, boþe an eve ant amorewe, ant bue þe fol couþe.
Whose yong lerneþ, olt he ne leseþ, quoþ Hendyng.

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 by: Jason Evans - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 09:43 UTC

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 07:19:56 GMT, meff wrote:

> Has anyone compiled User-Agent statistics to see wich clients are in
> use? If so I'd be interested in seeing them.

As a part of a project that I started at the beginning of the year where
I retrieved and archived a huge chunk of the Usenet from 2003-2022, I had
a bunch of newsgroup files sitting around on my NAS from the alt.*
hierarchy. In total, there are 348238 articles in this small collection
spanning several years. Here are the top 20 User-Agents that I pull from
those articles:

108950 User-Agent: G2/1.0
54402 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv
51370 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv
24922 User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
22672 User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.05
12089 User-Agent: MicroPlanet-Gravity/3.0.4
6741 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv
5346 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv
4488 User-Agent: Hogwasher/5.24
3266 User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25
2755 User-Agent: Unison/2.2
2507 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv
2352 User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.41
2164 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Warp 4.5; rv
1963 User-Agent: GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release
1904 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv
1835 User-Agent: ForteAgent/7.00.32.1200
1745 User-Agent: Xnews/2009.05.01
1732 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv
1684 User-Agent: [User-Agent blank]

Google Groups is only second to the different versions of Mozilla
(Thunderbird/Seamonkey).

Here is the grepped data that I pulled:
https://github.com/tgeek77/UsenetReport/tree/main/User-Agents

User-Agents.txt is the unsorted raw data.
user-agent-count.txt is the sorted and counted data.

Re: Client Stats?

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Jason Evans wrote:

> 1963 User-Agent: GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release

OMG

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 by: Jason Evans - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 16:57 UTC

On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 09:43:39 GMT, Jason Evans wrote:

If anyone really wants it, I can do a broader search for stats but that
will be more like a weekend project because it's going to take time
grokking through 1TB of Usenet records.

BTW, if anyone is interested, here are the commands that I used:

## search all files and grep out User Agents
grep User-Agent newsgroup.mbox > User-Agents.txt

## Remove extra fields, sort, count unique entries, then sort by number

cat User-Agents.txt | cut -f 2-3 -d ':' | \
sort | uniq -c | sort -nr > User-Agents-sorted.txt

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 by: Daniel Goldsmith - Thu, 9 Jun 2022 20:22 UTC

On 2022-06-08, Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Jun 2022 07:19:56 GMT, meff wrote:
>
>> Has anyone compiled User-Agent statistics to see wich clients are in
>> use? If so I'd be interested in seeing them.
>
> 22672 User-Agent: Xnews/2006.08.05
> 3266 User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25
> 1745 User-Agent: Xnews/2009.05.01

Xnews? whaaaaaat??!?

That's genuinely amazing to me. I used (and loved) Xnews eleventy
million years ago, using hamster to create local newsgroups, but
I stopped when I managed to get my life off Windows.

Genuinely pleased and surprised that it is still a thing™
--
dgold <news@dgold.eu>

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Subject: Re: Client Stats?
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 by: Grant Taylor - Fri, 10 Jun 2022 00:06 UTC

On 6/9/22 2:22 PM, Daniel Goldsmith wrote:
> That's genuinely amazing to me. I used (and loved) Xnews eleventy
> million years ago, using hamster to create local newsgroups, but I
> stopped when I managed to get my life off Windows.

I've seen people using things like Wine to run (formerly?) Windows only
programs on Linux and / or macOS.

--
Grant. . . .
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