> Going over the documentation of softswitch, which seems to me to
> be the solution ive been looking for to use in unison with The
> latest DeskTop and a Rom0GS,
> This wont work, otoh for a IIc+.
> I've pondered and wondered if anyone has created an 8bit cda
> system? memory or rom based....
> anyone know of any?

Yeah. There is a cda loader for Prodos 8 that loads a bunch of cda's without have to boot GSOS. Also have to weed out the cdas that won't work with Prodos 8. Pretty much any cda that has to save or load files will need GSOS booted, but there are a couple that use Prodos 8 to read and write files. One such is a SHR screen saver. The rest I have in my folder are just calculators, calendars and help files.

On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 5:29:04 PM UTC-8, barana wrote:
> I am Rob <gid...@sasktel.net> Wrote in message:r
> > > Going over the documentation of softswitch, which seems to me to > be the solution ive been looking for to use in unison with The > latest DeskTop and a Rom0GS, > This wont work, otoh for a IIc+. > I've pondered and wondered if anyone has created an 8bit cda > system? memory or rom based.... > anyone know of any? Yeah. There is a cda loader for Prodos 8 that loads a bunch of cda's without have to boot GSOS. Also have to weed out the cdas that won't work with Prodos 8. Pretty much any cda that has to save or load files will need GSOS booted, but there are a couple that use Prodos 8 to read and write files. One such is a SHR screen saver. The rest I have in my folder are just calculators, calendars and help files.
> This is interesting, does this work on a GS only? or 8 bit too?
> is it on asimov?

P8CDA - https://whatisthe2gs.apple2.org.za/p8cda.html - GS only.

There's not really going to be the equivalent of this for 8-bit systems, as each application completely takes over the system. You could imagine an ecosystem of applications that followed a cooperative protocol - e.g. reserving some memory and allowing the Reset handler to return to a supervisor program - but other than things like GEOS this didn't happen.

> > > Going over the documentation of softswitch, which seems to me to > be the solution ive been looking for to use in unison with The > latest DeskTop and a Rom0GS, > This wont work, otoh for a IIc+. > I've pondered and wondered if anyone has created an 8bit cda > system? memory or rom based.... > anyone know of any?

> Yeah. There is a cda loader for Prodos 8 that loads a bunch of cda's without have to boot GSOS. Also have to weed out the cdas that won't work with Prodos 8. Pretty much any cda that has to save or load files will need GSOS booted, but there are a couple that use Prodos 8 to read and write files. One such is a SHR screen saver. The rest I have in my folder are just calculators, calendars and help files.
> This is interesting, does this work on a GS only? or 8 bit too?
> is it on asimov?

You might want to check out Apple II Desktop that someone is working on for the 8-bit machines. Lots of desk accessories in a 8-bit GUI. It was just uploaded to the Apple II Enthusiasts file storage on Facebook. Don't know where else it has been uploaded.

On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 5:07:08 AM UTC-8, barana wrote:
> I am Rob <gid...@sasktel.net> Wrote in message:r
> > You might want to check out Apple II Desktop that someone is working on for the 8-bit machines. Lots of desk accessories in a 8-bit GUI. It was just uploaded to the Apple II Enthusiasts file storage on Facebook. Don't know where else it has been uploaded.
>
> Oh ive been following it for a few years, its a2d on github.
....
> the changefile is an ADVENTURE that will last you hours..
....

Heh. Yeah, github.com/a2stuff/a2d and a2desktop.com for full documentation. The work in 1985/86 by the wizards at Version Soft and Apple (for the MouseGraphics ToolKit) was amazing, but we've taken it a bit farther.

On 2023-01-08 17:15:25 +0000, Joshua Bell said:

> On Sunday, January 8, 2023 at 5:07:08 AM UTC-8, barana wrote:
>> I am Rob <gid...@sasktel.net> Wrote in message:r
>>> You might want to check out Apple II Desktop that someone is working on
>>> for the 8-bit machines. Lots of desk accessories in a 8-bit GUI. It was
>>> just uploaded to the Apple II Enthusiasts file storage on Facebook.
>>> Don't know where else it has been uploaded.>> Oh ive been following it
>>> for a few years, its a2d on github....
>> the changefile is an ADVENTURE that will last you hours.....
>
> Heh. Yeah, github.com/a2stuff/a2d and a2desktop.com for full
> documentation. The work in 1985/86 by the wizards at Version Soft and
> Apple (for the MouseGraphics ToolKit) was amazing, but we've taken it a
> bit farther.

I love it too. Given MouseDesk was my first experience of the 'Finder'
on our early IIGS, I love to see it so developed with super useful
features now.

But why do you still have a to select an icon and then then go to File
> Open to open/launch instead of double-click?

Alex

On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 8:21:36 PM UTC-8, Alex Lee wrote:
> I love it too. Given MouseDesk was my first experience of the 'Finder'
> on our early IIGS, I love to see it so developed with super useful
> features now.
>
> But why do you still have a to select an icon and then then go to File
> > Open to open/launch instead of double-click?
>

I bet you're running with an accelerator. The default double-click timeout goes by too quickly so the double-click is not seen. Go into the Control Panel and up the delay. (Or maybe you're at 1MHz and clicking too fast. In which case, slow down.)

I tweaked the default for v1.3 but with an emulator sometimes it still needs the Control Panel setting adjusted.