In message <u773p5$59dg$1@dont-email.me> at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 11:57:22,
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes
>On 6/24/2023 9:09 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> In message <u76kqk$3hng$1@dont-email.me> at Sat, 24 Jun 2023
>>13:42:05, Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> writes
[]
>>> And I can choose to download only audio.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much.
>>> Rink
>> Fellow yt-dlp users:
>> If I want just audio, I generally download the video and then extract
>>the audio (I use Pazera, as it's _clear_ from that that it's
[]
>>based on ffmpeg etc., like most such utilities). But the other day I
>>decided to try to use the audio-only function of y' itself: the -x
>>option. So I tried it, and it failed saying I didn't have ffmpeg or
>>ffprobe.exe. So I copied those (I did have them) to the y' folder,
>>then tried again; it then said I didn't have some .dll. So I copied
>>that - now a different .dll (similar name, just a different number).
>>Tried one more time, then gave up.
>> Anyone else (W7-32) using the -x option without trouble? Or, is
[]
>You should be using a package with statically compiled executables,
>ffmpeg.exe , ffprobe.exe , ffplay.exe
>
>Zeranoe used to build and serve those. Now, it's Gyan.
>
> https://www.gyan.dev/ffmpeg/builds/

Unfortunately, that says "All builds are 64-bit"; I presume those
wouldn't work on my 32-bit system. (I couldn't see any mention of a
32-bit version.)
>
>In my collection -- package seems well-compressed:
>
> Name: ffmpeg-5.1.2-full_build__Nov24_2022.7z

So for use to make yt-dlp -x work, you think I'd need the full version,
or would the basic one work?

> Size: 47,431,656 bytes (45 MiB)
> SHA256: 037BDB2183189DC0EFA642B1FDE7D6B33C6114036FA06FAF35F777E8DF07D863
>
>
>C:\Users\username\Downloads\ffmpeg-5.1.2-full_build__Nov24_2022.7z\ffmpe
>g-5.1.2-full_build\bin\
> ffmpeg.exe 127,396,864 bytes
> ffplay.exe 127,259,648 bytes
> ffprobe.exe 127,296,512 bytes
>
>And those are static, as there are *no* DLL files in the bin folder.
>All the DLL content (libs) hide inside the EXE file.
>
> Paul
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Everybody's throwing dinner parties, cooking this, baking that... Food has
eaten television here. - Sam Neill (RT 2014/10/11-17)

On 6/24/2023 3:03 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <u773p5$59dg$1@dont-email.me> at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 11:57:22, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes
>> On 6/24/2023 9:09 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>> In message <u76kqk$3hng$1@dont-email.me> at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 13:42:05, Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> writes
> []
>>>> And I can choose to download only audio.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>> Rink
>>>  Fellow yt-dlp users:
>>> If I want just audio, I generally download the video and then extract the audio (I use Pazera, as it's _clear_ from that that it's
> []
>>> based on ffmpeg etc., like most such utilities). But the other day I decided to try to use the audio-only function of y' itself: the -x option. So I tried it, and it failed saying I didn't have ffmpeg or ffprobe.exe. So I copied those (I did have them) to the y' folder, then tried again; it then said I didn't have some .dll. So I copied that - now a different .dll (similar name, just a different number). Tried one more time, then gave up.
>>>  Anyone else (W7-32) using the -x option without trouble? Or, is
> []
>> You should be using a package with statically compiled executables,
>> ffmpeg.exe , ffprobe.exe , ffplay.exe
>>
>> Zeranoe used to build and serve those. Now, it's Gyan.
>>
>>   https://www.gyan.dev/ffmpeg/builds/
>
> Unfortunately, that says "All builds are 64-bit"; I presume those wouldn't work on my 32-bit system. (I couldn't see any mention of a 32-bit version.)
>>
>> In my collection -- package seems well-compressed:
>>
>>   Name: ffmpeg-5.1.2-full_build__Nov24_2022.7z
>
> So for use to make yt-dlp -x work, you think I'd need the full version, or would the basic one work?
>
>>   Size: 47,431,656 bytes (45 MiB)
>>   SHA256: 037BDB2183189DC0EFA642B1FDE7D6B33C6114036FA06FAF35F777E8DF07D863
>>
>>
>> C:\Users\username\Downloads\ffmpeg-5.1.2-full_build__Nov24_2022.7z\ffmpe
>> g-5.1.2-full_build\bin\
>>        ffmpeg.exe   127,396,864 bytes
>>        ffplay.exe   127,259,648 bytes
>>        ffprobe.exe  127,296,512 bytes
>>
>> And those are static, as there are *no* DLL files in the bin folder.
>> All the DLL content (libs) hide inside the EXE file.
>>
>>   Paul

https://web.archive.org/web/20180102224237/https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win32/static/

ffmpeg-3.3.3-win32-static.zip 43590056 07-Aug-2017 21:09

Higher than version 4.x.x does not run on Windows XP.

Version 3.3.3 is a good general purpose one, and
might keep a lot of people happy.

If you want to test a 4.x.x , you can look at the end of zeranoe
before it quit the business. These 4.x.x won't work on WinXP
(I could see DLL trouble in the nightlies), but will likely
work on Win7 x86 just fine.

https://web.archive.org/web/20200708235238/https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/builds/win32/static/

If the very latest have switched to 64-only, that could be ffmpeg.org
doing that, or it could be Gyan cutting the workload in half. Maybe
even the Wiki article, would document an event like that.

Paul

On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 14:09:38 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> Anyone else (W7-32) using the -x option without trouble? Or, is there
> some other _simple_ way of downloading audio only with yt-dlp?
>

-f 140

That's for AAC audio (.m4a); use a different number if you want a
different audio type.

I know we should first try with the -F option to make sure the
particular video has a -f 140 stream, but I've stopped bothering
because every video I download seems to have it. (Or if it's being
transcoded, the transcoding is good enough that I can't hear any
problems.)

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

In message <MPG.3f016ead4514a53f99014e@news.individual.net> at Sat, 24
Jun 2023 22:21:22, Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> writes
>On Sat, 24 Jun 2023 14:09:38 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> Anyone else (W7-32) using the -x option without trouble? Or, is there
>> some other _simple_ way of downloading audio only with yt-dlp?
>>
>
>-f 140
>
>That's for AAC audio (.m4a); use a different number if you want a
>different audio type.

Thanks. I really have been preferring whatever's actually in the file,
but I guess if more than one format are available, that's meaningless.
>
>I know we should first try with the -F option to make sure the
>particular video has a -f 140 stream, but I've stopped bothering
>because every video I download seems to have it. (Or if it's being
>transcoded, the transcoding is good enough that I can't hear any
>problems.)
>
(-:
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I was never drawn to sport, to which I attribute my long life.
- Barry Humphries, RT 2016/1/9-15

<Ben@XPOnly.org> wrote

| https://www.3dyd.com/

So far, so good. How did I never find this in all these years?
It even runs just fine on XP. Thanks.

In message <u78cog$cqi5$1@dont-email.me> at Sat, 24 Jun 2023 23:36:46,
Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes
>On 6/24/2023 3:03 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> In message <u773p5$59dg$1@dont-email.me> at Sat, 24 Jun 2023
>>11:57:22, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes
>>> On 6/24/2023 9:09 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
[]
>>>>  Fellow yt-dlp users:
>>>> If I want just audio, I generally download the video and then
>>>>extract the audio (I use Pazera, as it's _clear_ from that that it's
>> []
>>>> based on ffmpeg etc., like most such utilities). But the other day
>>>>I decided to try to use the audio-only function of y' itself: the -x
>>>>option. So I tried it, and it failed saying I didn't have ffmpeg or
>>>>ffprobe.exe. So I copied those (I did have them) to the y' folder,
>>>>then tried again; it then said I didn't have some .dll. So I copied
>>>>that - now a different .dll (similar name, just a different number).
>>>>Tried one more time, then gave up.
>>>>  Anyone else (W7-32) using the -x option without trouble? Or, is
>> []
>>> You should be using a package with statically compiled executables,
>>> ffmpeg.exe , ffprobe.exe , ffplay.exe
>>>
>>> Zeranoe used to build and serve those. Now, it's Gyan.
>>>
>>>   https://www.gyan.dev/ffmpeg/builds/
>> Unfortunately, that says "All builds are 64-bit"; I presume those
>>wouldn't work on my 32-bit system. (I couldn't see any mention of a
>>32-bit version.)
>>>
>>> In my collection -- package seems well-compressed:
>>>
>>>   Name: ffmpeg-5.1.2-full_build__Nov24_2022.7z
>> So for use to make yt-dlp -x work, you think I'd need the full
>>version, or would the basic one work?
>>
>>>   Size: 47,431,656 bytes (45 MiB)
>>>   SHA256: 037BDB2183189DC0EFA642B1FDE7D6B33C6114036FA06FAF35F777E8DF07D863
>>>
>>>
>>> C:\Users\username\Downloads\ffmpeg-5.1.2-full_build__Nov24_2022.7z\ffmpe
>>> g-5.1.2-full_build\bin\
>>>        ffmpeg.exe   127,396,864 bytes
>>>        ffplay.exe   127,259,648 bytes
>>>        ffprobe.exe  127,296,512 bytes
>>>
>>> And those are static, as there are *no* DLL files in the bin folder.
>>> All the DLL content (libs) hide inside the EXE file.
>>>
>>>   Paul
>
>https://web.archive.org/web/20180102224237/https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/bu
>ilds/win32/static/
>
> ffmpeg-3.3.3-win32-static.zip 43590056 07-Aug-2017 21:09
>
>Higher than version 4.x.x does not run on Windows XP.
>
>Version 3.3.3 is a good general purpose one, and
>might keep a lot of people happy.
>
>If you want to test a 4.x.x , you can look at the end of zeranoe
>before it quit the business. These 4.x.x won't work on WinXP
>(I could see DLL trouble in the nightlies), but will likely
>work on Win7 x86 just fine.
>
>https://web.archive.org/web/20200708235238/https://ffmpeg.zeranoe.com/bu
>ilds/win32/static/
>
>If the very latest have switched to 64-only, that could be ffmpeg.org
>doing that, or it could be Gyan cutting the workload in half. Maybe
>even the Wiki article, would document an event like that.
>
> Paul
>
Thanks for that. I downloaded the "latest" from that page (comes just
after 4.3), and tried a y -x, which gave this:

[youtube] Extracting URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_prtbj4MtDU
[youtube] _prtbj4MtDU: Downloading webpage
[youtube] _prtbj4MtDU: Downloading android player API JSON
[info] _prtbj4MtDU: Downloading 1 format(s): 251
[dashsegments] Total fragments: 1
[download] Destination: My Boomerang Won't Come Back - Charlie Drake
[_prtbj4MtD
U].webm
[download] 100% of 3.36MiB in 00:00:02 at 1.45MiB/s
[ExtractAudio] Destination: My Boomerang Won't Come Back - Charlie Drake
[_prtbj
4MtDU].opus
Deleting original file My Boomerang Won't Come Back - Charlie Drake
[_prtbj4MtDU
].webm (pass -k to keep)

which looks like it's downloading the video (? .webm) file anyway, then
extracting the audio and discarding the video - basically what I'd been
doing with Pazera (though it produced a .opus file, which is one I'd not
seen before!; but my GoldWave can read it). But at least the -x option
works without any error messages.

I might try Stan Brown's "-f 140" suggestion too. Actually I'll try it
now:

[youtube] Extracting URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_prtbj4MtDU
[youtube] _prtbj4MtDU: Downloading webpage
[youtube] _prtbj4MtDU: Downloading android player API JSON
[info] _prtbj4MtDU: Downloading 1 format(s): 140
[dashsegments] Total fragments: 1
[download] Destination: My Boomerang Won't Come Back - Charlie Drake
[_prtbj4MtD
U].m4a
[download] 100% of 3.37MiB in 00:00:00 at 4.73MiB/s
[FixupM4a] Correcting container of "My Boomerang Won't Come Back -
Charlie Drake
[_prtbj4MtDU].m4a"

Interesting, does it without a double stage. Might use that one.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If something works, thank an engineer. (Reported seen on a bumper sticker.)

In message <$qbJSE2+ALmkFwvm@255soft.uk> at Sun, 25 Jun 2023 22:23:10,
J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes
[]
>Thanks for that. I downloaded the "latest" from that page (comes just
[]
Latest wrinkle: just the _presence_ of the ff*.exe files has an
unexpected (to me) effect!

If I _do_ want the video, not just the audio - i. e. I'm not using -x
_or_ -f 140, but just "y <URL>" (y is my short-name version of yt-dlp) -
I normally end up with a .mp4 video file. But now, with the three
ff*.exe files present in the yt-dlp directory, _the same command_
produces a .webm video file. Just to be sure, I moved them to a
subdirectory, and tried again - .mp4 video file!

There's obviously more to yt-dlp.exe than I thought!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

But remember, in a permissive society, it is also permissible to stay at home
and have a nice cup of tea instead. Andrew Collins, RT 2015/2/14-20

On 20/06/2023 23:39, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> I can use Wget to download new versions like that from the command
> line just as easily as running it with the "-U" option anyway. Not
> that I need to do so often.

How can that big long line with a URL in it be just as easy to type?

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

In message <kfuet1FefggU1@mid.individual.net> at Mon, 26 Jun 2023
22:39:45, Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> writes
>On 20/06/2023 23:39, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> I can use Wget to download new versions like that from the command
>> line just as easily as running it with the "-U" option anyway. Not
>> that I need to do so often.
>
>How can that big long line with a URL in it be just as easy to type?
>
Alt-space E P (or even Ctrl-V in Windows 10, maybe 8).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

She looked like the kind of girl who was poured into her clothes and forgot to
say when - Wodehouse

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 00:32:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
wrote:

>In message <kfuet1FefggU1@mid.individual.net> at Mon, 26 Jun 2023
>22:39:45, Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> writes
>>On 20/06/2023 23:39, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> I can use Wget to download new versions like that from the command
>>> line just as easily as running it with the "-U" option anyway. Not
>>> that I need to do so often.
>>
>>How can that big long line with a URL in it be just as easy to type?
>>
>Alt-space E P (or even Ctrl-V in Windows 10, maybe 8).

If the question is about pasting text from the clipboard into a Command
Prompt window, it's as easy as a single right-click anywhere in the
window. That behavior probably goes back to the beginning of time.

To copy text from a Command Prompt to the clipboard, highlight it with
the mouse and press Enter.

In alt.comp.software.firefox Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
> On 20/06/2023 23:39, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> I can use Wget to download new versions like that from the command
>> line just as easily as running it with the "-U" option anyway. Not
>> that I need to do so often.
>
> How can that big long line with a URL in it be just as easy to type?

Paste it into a .bat script along with the Wget command then just
run that (although I actually do the Linux equivalent).

--
__ __
#_ < |\| |< _#

Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 00:32:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >In message <kfuet1FefggU1@mid.individual.net> at Mon, 26 Jun 2023
> >22:39:45, Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> writes
> >>On 20/06/2023 23:39, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
> >>> I can use Wget to download new versions like that from the command
> >>> line just as easily as running it with the "-U" option anyway. Not
> >>> that I need to do so often.
> >>
> >>How can that big long line with a URL in it be just as easy to type?
> >>
> >Alt-space E P (or even Ctrl-V in Windows 10, maybe 8).
>
> If the question is about pasting text from the clipboard into a Command
> Prompt window, it's as easy as a single right-click anywhere in the
> window. That behavior probably goes back to the beginning of time.
>
> To copy text from a Command Prompt to the clipboard, highlight it with
> the mouse and press Enter.

Correct. But for this to work, 'QuickEditMode' must be enabled/ticked
in the 'Properties' of the Command Prompt window.

IIRC, that option was not always set by default. I don't know what the
current (10/11) default is, because I always set it when I see it's
unset.

In message <u7eii7.e54.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> at Tue, 27 Jun
2023 09:52:50, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes
>Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 00:32:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In message <kfuet1FefggU1@mid.individual.net> at Mon, 26 Jun 2023
>> >22:39:45, Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> writes
>> >>On 20/06/2023 23:39, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> >>> I can use Wget to download new versions like that from the command
>> >>> line just as easily as running it with the "-U" option anyway. Not
>> >>> that I need to do so often.
>> >>
>> >>How can that big long line with a URL in it be just as easy to type?
>> >>
>> >Alt-space E P (or even Ctrl-V in Windows 10, maybe 8).
>>
>> If the question is about pasting text from the clipboard into a Command
>> Prompt window, it's as easy as a single right-click anywhere in the
>> window. That behavior probably goes back to the beginning of time.

Each to his own: I'd actually forgotten (or didn't know) about that one.
But since I'm usually using the keyboard anyway (even if only to type
the "y "), the Alt-space E P comes naturally.
>>
>> To copy text from a Command Prompt to the clipboard, highlight it with
>> the mouse and press Enter.

Yes, that's somewhat more tedious, but works fine.
>
> Correct. But for this to work, 'QuickEditMode' must be enabled/ticked
>in the 'Properties' of the Command Prompt window.
>
> IIRC, that option was not always set by default. I don't know what the
>current (10/11) default is, because I always set it when I see it's
>unset.

It obviously remains set between uses (or _is_ on my default in 7-32),
as I don't remember having to set it.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Computers can make anything seem anything, as did lawyers.
- chris@dickinson.uk.net in soc.genealogy.britain, 2018-4-7

In message <649a5cff@news.ausics.net> at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:52:32,
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> writes
>In alt.comp.software.firefox Brian Gregory
><void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
>> On 20/06/2023 23:39, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> I can use Wget to download new versions like that from the command
>>> line just as easily as running it with the "-U" option anyway. Not
>>> that I need to do so often.
>>
>> How can that big long line with a URL in it be just as easy to type?
>
>Paste it into a .bat script along with the Wget command then just
>run that (although I actually do the Linux equivalent).
>
That's fine if you're always wanting to use the same URL. I think Brian
was thinking it'd be a different one each time (as per the original
thread subject). [A couple of us have shown how to paste into a command
line though - either alt-space E P or right-click then P/select paste.]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Computers can make anything seem anything, as did lawyers.
- chris@dickinson.uk.net in soc.genealogy.britain, 2018-4-7

On 27 Jun 2023 09:52:50 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:

>Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 00:32:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >In message <kfuet1FefggU1@mid.individual.net> at Mon, 26 Jun 2023
>> >22:39:45, Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> writes
>> >>On 20/06/2023 23:39, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>> >>> I can use Wget to download new versions like that from the command
>> >>> line just as easily as running it with the "-U" option anyway. Not
>> >>> that I need to do so often.
>> >>
>> >>How can that big long line with a URL in it be just as easy to type?
>> >>
>> >Alt-space E P (or even Ctrl-V in Windows 10, maybe 8).
>>
>> If the question is about pasting text from the clipboard into a Command
>> Prompt window, it's as easy as a single right-click anywhere in the
>> window. That behavior probably goes back to the beginning of time.
>>
>> To copy text from a Command Prompt to the clipboard, highlight it with
>> the mouse and press Enter.
>
> Correct. But for this to work, 'QuickEditMode' must be enabled/ticked
>in the 'Properties' of the Command Prompt window.
>
> IIRC, that option was not always set by default. I don't know what the
>current (10/11) default is, because I always set it when I see it's
>unset.

Agreed. If I were to work in a Command Prompt window on a strange PC,
I'd make sure QuickEdit Mode is enabled. On my own PCs, it's enabled,
but I don't remember if I had to do that or if it was a default.

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:07:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
wrote:

>In message <u7eii7.e54.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> at Tue, 27 Jun
>2023 09:52:50, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes
>>Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 00:32:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In message <kfuet1FefggU1@mid.individual.net> at Mon, 26 Jun 2023
>>> >22:39:45, Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> writes
>>> >>On 20/06/2023 23:39, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> >>> I can use Wget to download new versions like that from the command
>>> >>> line just as easily as running it with the "-U" option anyway. Not
>>> >>> that I need to do so often.
>>> >>
>>> >>How can that big long line with a URL in it be just as easy to type?
>>> >>
>>> >Alt-space E P (or even Ctrl-V in Windows 10, maybe 8).
>>>
>>> If the question is about pasting text from the clipboard into a Command
>>> Prompt window, it's as easy as a single right-click anywhere in the
>>> window. That behavior probably goes back to the beginning of time.
>
>Each to his own: I'd actually forgotten (or didn't know) about that one.
>But since I'm usually using the keyboard anyway (even if only to type
>the "y "), the Alt-space E P comes naturally.
>>>
>>> To copy text from a Command Prompt to the clipboard, highlight it with
>>> the mouse and press Enter.
>
>Yes, that's somewhat more tedious, but works fine.

I'm sorry, more tedious than what? I don't know of an easier way to mark
(select) text and copy it to the clipboard. The only other way I know of
is via the Command Prompt menu system, either via the keyboard or the
mouse, but that's much more tedious so I'm curious if you know of a
third way.

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:10:38 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
wrote:

>In message <649a5cff@news.ausics.net> at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:52:32,
>Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> writes
>>In alt.comp.software.firefox Brian Gregory
>><void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 20/06/2023 23:39, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> I can use Wget to download new versions like that from the command
>>>> line just as easily as running it with the "-U" option anyway. Not
>>>> that I need to do so often.
>>>
>>> How can that big long line with a URL in it be just as easy to type?
>>
>>Paste it into a .bat script along with the Wget command then just
>>run that (although I actually do the Linux equivalent).
>>
>That's fine if you're always wanting to use the same URL. I think Brian
>was thinking it'd be a different one each time (as per the original
>thread subject). [A couple of us have shown how to paste into a command
>line though - either alt-space E P or right-click then P/select paste.]

With QuickEdit Mode enabled, pasting text is a single right-click. I'm
not sure what "then P/select paste" refers to.

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:42:24 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:

>On 27 Jun 2023 09:52:50 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 00:32:36 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >In message <kfuet1FefggU1@mid.individual.net> at Mon, 26 Jun 2023
>>> >22:39:45, Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> writes
>>> >>On 20/06/2023 23:39, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>> >>> I can use Wget to download new versions like that from the command
>>> >>> line just as easily as running it with the "-U" option anyway. Not
>>> >>> that I need to do so often.
>>> >>
>>> >>How can that big long line with a URL in it be just as easy to type?
>>> >>
>>> >Alt-space E P (or even Ctrl-V in Windows 10, maybe 8).
>>>
>>> If the question is about pasting text from the clipboard into a Command
>>> Prompt window, it's as easy as a single right-click anywhere in the
>>> window. That behavior probably goes back to the beginning of time.
>>>
>>> To copy text from a Command Prompt to the clipboard, highlight it with
>>> the mouse and press Enter.
>>
>> Correct. But for this to work, 'QuickEditMode' must be enabled/ticked
>>in the 'Properties' of the Command Prompt window.
>>
>> IIRC, that option was not always set by default. I don't know what the
>>current (10/11) default is, because I always set it when I see it's
>>unset.
>
>Agreed. If I were to work in a Command Prompt window on a strange PC,
>I'd make sure QuickEdit Mode is enabled. On my own PCs, it's enabled,

Same here.

>but I don't remember if I had to do that or if it was a default.

Same here. That's true of 90% of the setting here. Not only do I not
remember whether I changed the settings, but if I did, I don't
remember how I did it. Once something works the way I want it to, I
almost always quickly put it out of my mind.

In message <gk4m9idp2vnoe3a6jj5qt3rrdnrbupk6ku@4ax.com> at Tue, 27 Jun
2023 11:48:40, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> writes
[]
>With QuickEdit Mode enabled, pasting text is a single right-click. I'm
>not sure what "then P/select paste" refers to.
>
Thanks! I just discovered I _didn't_ have QuickEdit mode enabled. Now to
see whether I remember to use that paste method!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Everybody's throwing dinner parties, cooking this, baking that... Food has
eaten television here. - Sam Neill (RT 2014/10/11-17)

In message <be4m9ildsnm4emfi58n3pj9o77q7pvaips@4ax.com> at Tue, 27 Jun
2023 11:46:56, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> writes
>On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:07:33 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>In message <u7eii7.e54.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> at Tue, 27 Jun
>>2023 09:52:50, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes
>>>Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
[]
>>>> To copy text from a Command Prompt to the clipboard, highlight it with
>>>> the mouse and press Enter.
>>
>>Yes, that's somewhat more tedious, but works fine.
>
>I'm sorry, more tedious than what? I don't know of an easier way to mark
>(select) text and copy it to the clipboard. The only other way I know of
>is via the Command Prompt menu system, either via the keyboard or the
>mouse, but that's much more tedious so I'm curious if you know of a
>third way.
>
No, I just meant it was more tedious than pasting text _to_ the command
prompt, as you have to be quite precise with the mouse when you
highlight it. (As it's a rectangle you are marking, and if it's more
than one line, you can miss getting the whole width.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Everybody's throwing dinner parties, cooking this, baking that... Food has
eaten television here. - Sam Neill (RT 2014/10/11-17)

In message <0ecm9iplsers0rei4tkr760ik97l4it8nm@4ax.com> at Tue, 27 Jun
2023 12:02:59, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> writes
>On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:42:24 -0500, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
>wrote:
[]
>>Agreed. If I were to work in a Command Prompt window on a strange PC,
>>I'd make sure QuickEdit Mode is enabled. On my own PCs, it's enabled,
>
>Same here.
>
>>but I don't remember if I had to do that or if it was a default.
>
>Same here. That's true of 90% of the setting here. Not only do I not
>remember whether I changed the settings, but if I did, I don't
>remember how I did it. Once something works the way I want it to, I
>almost always quickly put it out of my mind.

That's why I hate changing machines, and also am not keen on the
smart-alecks who say they can get an out-of-the-box machine to how they
want it very quickly: I presume they just work mostly with the defaults.
In my case, some of the "settings" actually involve third-party utils,
which I will have forgotten not only how to set them up and where I got
them (even assuming they're still available!), but even that they _are_
such and not part of the OS. I image (using Macrium - other similar are
available) my C: partition (which contains just the OS and software;
nearly all data is on D: [which is backed up by a simpler process]; C:
is 50G, and at present less than half full) from time to time - I can be
back up after a disc failure, to how I want everything to be, a lot
faster than finding all those settings (and utils) and tweaking them.

Others can do what _they_ want, of course.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Everybody's throwing dinner parties, cooking this, baking that... Food has
eaten television here. - Sam Neill (RT 2014/10/11-17)

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <gk4m9idp2vnoe3a6jj5qt3rrdnrbupk6ku@4ax.com> at Tue, 27 Jun
> 2023 11:48:40, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> writes
> []
> >With QuickEdit Mode enabled, pasting text is a single right-click. I'm
> >not sure what "then P/select paste" refers to.
> >
> Thanks! I just discovered I _didn't_ have QuickEdit mode enabled. Now to
> see whether I remember to use that paste method!

Newer systems - at least Windows 11, but probably earlier - can also
Copy/Paste with Ctrl+Shift+C/V. Obviously can't use it without the
Shift, because Ctrl+C is already taken (abort current command or some
such).

On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:10:38 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> In message <649a5cff@news.ausics.net> at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:52:32,
> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> writes
> > [quoted text muted]
> >
> >Paste it into a .bat script along with the Wget command then just
> >run that (although I actually do the Linux equivalent).
> >
> That's fine if you're always wanting to use the same URL. I think Brian
> was thinking it'd be a different one each time (as per the original
> thread subject). [A couple of us have shown how to paste into a command
> line though - either alt-space E P or right-click then P/select paste.]

Ctrl+V works too (I just tried it), and it's hard to imagine a
shorter key sequence.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

In message <MPG.3f04dbe01a22dee3990152@news.individual.net> at Tue, 27
Jun 2023 12:44:08, Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> writes
>On Tue, 27 Jun 2023 11:10:38 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> In message <649a5cff@news.ausics.net> at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:52:32,
>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> writes
>> > [quoted text muted]
>> >
>> >Paste it into a .bat script along with the Wget command then just
>> >run that (although I actually do the Linux equivalent).
>> >
>> That's fine if you're always wanting to use the same URL. I think Brian
>> was thinking it'd be a different one each time (as per the original
>> thread subject). [A couple of us have shown how to paste into a command
>> line though - either alt-space E P or right-click then P/select paste.]
>
>Ctrl+V works too (I just tried it), and it's hard to imagine a
>shorter key sequence.
>
I think that's one of the differences between 7 and 10. (Not sure about
the 8s.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Can you open your mind without it falling out?

In alt.comp.software.firefox J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> In message <649a5cff@news.ausics.net> at Tue, 27 Jun 2023 13:52:32,
> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> writes
>>In alt.comp.software.firefox Brian Gregory
>><void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 20/06/2023 23:39, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
>>>> I can use Wget to download new versions like that from the command
>>>> line just as easily as running it with the "-U" option anyway. Not
>>>> that I need to do so often.
>>>
>>> How can that big long line with a URL in it be just as easy to type?
>>
>>Paste it into a .bat script along with the Wget command then just
>>run that (although I actually do the Linux equivalent).
>>
> That's fine if you're always wanting to use the same URL. I think Brian
> was thinking it'd be a different one each time (as per the original
> thread subject).

It's not, because I used 'latest' instead of the version number in
the URL that I posted:
https://github.com/ytdl-patched/youtube-dl/releases/latest/download/youtube-dl.exe

It will download the youtube-dl.exe file from the latest daily
build. No need to touch the URL again after pasting it into a .bat
file (or Linux equivalent) because it always points to the latest
one.

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