On Friday, March 28, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Todd Howard wrote:
> tc...@sprintmail.com wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:25:57 GMT, itl...@sn.no (Magnus Itland) wrote:
> >
> > >jwt...@aol.com (JWT001) wrote:
> > >
> > >>If you like RPG's, buy daggerfall. If you like actiony show off your
> > >>computer games, buy diablo.
> > >>Buy daggerfall then. Its gooooodddd.
> > >
> > >I also think Daggerfall is very good, but looking around on this
> > >very newsgroup it seems fair to say that some people dislike it
> > >strongly. I think Daggerfall is a "love or hate" game.
> > >Also I would recommend Daggerfall for grown-ups, but not for kids.
> > >--
> > > itl...@sn.no Yes! The one and only Magnus Itland.
> > > The first signs of mental breakdown can be subtle,
> > > such as for instance a slightly altered signature.
> > >
> > I am very much a grownup, and I have liked many RPG's such as U7 and
> > the Might and Magic games, but I really hated Daggerfall. The crappy
> > graphics, repetitive town scenes, pointless quests, etc. made it no
> > fun at all for me. I don't normally like action games like Doom, but
> > I found Diablo very enjoyable for quite a while even though it is more
> > action than true RPG. I am now off Diablo until there is some kind of
> > sequel or expansion pack, but it was VERY fun while it lasted.
> Hold off to the end of the year and buy REDGUARD, the new ELDER SCROLLS
> ADVENTURES game <G>.
I'm holding out for Starfield

måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:
> On Friday, March 28, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Todd Howard wrote:
> > tc...@sprintmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:25:57 GMT, itl...@sn.no (Magnus Itland) wrote:
> > >
> > > >jwt...@aol.com (JWT001) wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>If you like RPG's, buy daggerfall. If you like actiony show off your
> > > >>computer games, buy diablo.
> > > >>Buy daggerfall then. Its gooooodddd.
> > > >
> > > >I also think Daggerfall is very good, but looking around on this
> > > >very newsgroup it seems fair to say that some people dislike it
> > > >strongly. I think Daggerfall is a "love or hate" game.
> > > >Also I would recommend Daggerfall for grown-ups, but not for kids.
> > > >--
> > > > itl...@sn.no Yes! The one and only Magnus Itland.
> > > > The first signs of mental breakdown can be subtle,
> > > > such as for instance a slightly altered signature.
> > > >
> > > I am very much a grownup, and I have liked many RPG's such as U7 and
> > > the Might and Magic games, but I really hated Daggerfall. The crappy
> > > graphics, repetitive town scenes, pointless quests, etc. made it no
> > > fun at all for me. I don't normally like action games like Doom, but
> > > I found Diablo very enjoyable for quite a while even though it is more
> > > action than true RPG. I am now off Diablo until there is some kind of
> > > sequel or expansion pack, but it was VERY fun while it lasted.
> > Hold off to the end of the year and buy REDGUARD, the new ELDER SCROLLS
> > ADVENTURES game <G>.
> I'm holding out for Starfield
lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo

On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
> måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:

>> I'm holding out for Starfield
> lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo

and why shouldn't they?

On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
> On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
> > måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:
>
> >> I'm holding out for Starfield
> > lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
> and why shouldn't they?

Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.

Julian <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5b75d6d5-c95c-4307-b9c2-904bc2fc0f86n@googlegroups.com:

> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
>> On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
>> > måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:
>>
>> >> I'm holding out for Starfield
>> > lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
>> and why shouldn't they?
>
> Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make
> people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.
>

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files

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On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:35:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson"
<markpnelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Julian <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:5b75d6d5-c95c-4307-b9c2-904bc2fc0f86n@googlegroups.com:
>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
>>> On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
>>> > måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:

>>> > lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
>>> and why shouldn't they?

>> Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make
>> people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.

>https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files

I dunno how Daggerfall is 'non-existent'. It still exists, and is
still playable.

Even if you don't have your original CD (or was it floppy disks? I
can't remember offhand), you still have plenty of options:

There's the original, still for sale.
https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall
There's the Unity-engine remake
https://www.gog.com/en/game/daggerfall_unity_gog_cut
There's "Daggerblivion", a mod for Elder Scrolls Oblivion
https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/11549503-daggerblivion-development/
And let's not forget the massive "Beyond Skyrim" which has the "Illiac
Bay" mod in development
https://beyondskyrim.org/iliac-bay

In short, there's lot of Daggerfall still to play, and will be more in
the future.

That said, I think there are a lot of better games to play than
"Daggerfall", regardless of which version you choose. Its procedural
world was just too large and lacked character; a clear case of
Bethesda choosing quantity over quality. Fortunately, they learned
their lesson in later games (and then promptly forgot it again with
"Starfield" ;-)

But if you want to play Daggerfall, there are a lot of options
available to you these days, so have at it.

On 1/31/2024 3:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:35:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson"
> <markpnelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Julian <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:5b75d6d5-c95c-4307-b9c2-904bc2fc0f86n@googlegroups.com:
>>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
>>>> On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
>>>>> måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:
>
>
>>>>> lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
>>>> and why shouldn't they?
>
>>> Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make
>>> people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.
>
>> https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files
>
> I dunno how Daggerfall is 'non-existent'. It still exists, and is
> still playable.
>
> Even if you don't have your original CD (or was it floppy disks? I
> can't remember offhand), you still have plenty of options:
>
> There's the original, still for sale.
> https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall
> There's the Unity-engine remake
> https://www.gog.com/en/game/daggerfall_unity_gog_cut
> There's "Daggerblivion", a mod for Elder Scrolls Oblivion
> https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/11549503-daggerblivion-development/
> And let's not forget the massive "Beyond Skyrim" which has the "Illiac
> Bay" mod in development
> https://beyondskyrim.org/iliac-bay
>
> In short, there's lot of Daggerfall still to play, and will be more in
> the future.
>
> That said, I think there are a lot of better games to play than
> "Daggerfall", regardless of which version you choose. Its procedural
> world was just too large and lacked character; a clear case of
> Bethesda choosing quantity over quality. Fortunately, they learned
> their lesson in later games (and then promptly forgot it again with
> "Starfield" ;-)
>
> But if you want to play Daggerfall, there are a lot of options
> available to you these days, so have at it.
>
>
>

I think technically Daggerfall and the Elder Scrolls had a bit more
staying power than Diablo. I mean Diablo was massive at the time and
certainly had it's influence, but I just don't see many people still
playing it the same way that people are totally into Skyrim after over
ten years. I mean, Diablo 3 came out in 2012 and Skyrim in 2011, but I
see lots of people still deeply invested into Skyrim, and no mentions of
Diablo III at all. Not even Diablo IV. But maybe I am just not looking
at the right places.

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:35:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson"
><markpnelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>Julian <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:5b75d6d5-c95c-4307-b9c2-904bc2fc0f86n@googlegroups.com:
>>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
>>>> On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
>>>> > måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:
>
>
>>>> > lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
>>>> and why shouldn't they?
>
>>> Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make
>>> people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.
>
>>https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files
>
>I dunno how Daggerfall is 'non-existent'. It still exists, and is
>still playable.
>
>Even if you don't have your original CD (or was it floppy disks? I
>can't remember offhand), you still have plenty of options:

It was cd. And I still have my boxed Daggerfall, complete with all my
notes about soul bonuses and negatives, vampire clans etc.

>There's the original, still for sale.
>https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall
>There's the Unity-engine remake
>https://www.gog.com/en/game/daggerfall_unity_gog_cut
>There's "Daggerblivion", a mod for Elder Scrolls Oblivion
>https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/11549503-daggerblivion-development/
>And let's not forget the massive "Beyond Skyrim" which has the "Illiac
>Bay" mod in development
>https://beyondskyrim.org/iliac-bay
>
>In short, there's lot of Daggerfall still to play, and will be more in
>the future.

It's on Steam too.

>That said, I think there are a lot of better games to play than
>"Daggerfall", regardless of which version you choose. Its procedural
>world was just too large and lacked character; a clear case of
>Bethesda choosing quantity over quality. Fortunately, they learned
>their lesson in later games (and then promptly forgot it again with
>"Starfield" ;-)
>
>But if you want to play Daggerfall, there are a lot of options
>available to you these days, so have at it.

Oh to have Daggerfall in a modern engine like the one used for Black
Desert Online.

Xocyll

Diablofall!

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