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* Apple iPhone 15 vs. Samsung Galaxy S23: Flagship fightbadgolferman
`* Re: Apple iPhone 15 vs. Samsung Galaxy S23: Flagship fightWally J
 `* Re: Apple iPhone 15 vs. Samsung Galaxy S23: Flagship fightAlan
  +* Re: Apple iPhone 15 vs. Samsung Galaxy S23: Flagship fightnospam
  |`- Re: Apple iPhone 15 vs. Samsung Galaxy S23: Flagship fightWally J
  `* Re: Apple iPhone 15 vs. Samsung Galaxy S23: Flagship fightcandycanearter07
   +- Re: Apple iPhone 15 vs. Samsung Galaxy S23: Flagship fightAlan
   `- Re: Apple iPhone 15 vs. Samsung Galaxy S23: Flagship fightWally J

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Subject: Apple iPhone 15 vs. Samsung Galaxy S23: Flagship fight
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 by: badgolferman - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 14:03 UTC

The differences between these two phones are simultaneously very muted
and yet cavernously loud. In a few specific specs the iPhone 15 edges
out its competitor, yet the Samsung Galaxy S23 remains a better device
when you evaluate the whole picture. Its superior display and more
versatile camera set-up give it the upper hand in two of the most
important areas, while specs are a close match just about everywhere
else. While the devices are certainly different in the delivery of
their user experiences, the Samsung Galaxy S23 will be a more powerful
choice for most users.

It's worth considering the Apple iPhone 15 though, even if you're an
Android devotee. The phone stands ready to challenge the Samsung
flagship in many respects, including processing power. The familiarity
of the Apple system is a strong pull toward the iPhone for those who
are used to it, and it’s likely harder for a Samsung loyalist to switch
over to the Apple OS than vice versa. Moreover, with a lengthy update
support window, you may be looking at a longer timeline between the
necessity of another new phone purchase if you opt for the iPhone 15,
providing what may work out to be more bang for your buck in the long
run.

Editor's choice
Best for Android users
$700
The Samsung Galaxy S23 puts itself forward as a massive competitor. The
Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 processor powers a highly efficient and hugely
powerful smartphone finished off with highly polished aesthetics and a
50MP camera. The battery life beats out the average across all
competitive smartphones, and its DeX features make it a valuable
productivity asset, too. The Galaxy S23 comes out as the front runner
in this head-to-head, but not without a
strong challenge.

Close runner-up
An elite iPhone upgrade
$799
The iPhone 15 is no slouch. With great color choices and a revamping of
the aesthetics, while retaining the classic iPhone design language, the
new iPhone is a juggernaut and only narrowly beaten out by the S23.
Every feature, from the battery life to the camera, is comparable to
the Samsung, and software support remains a highlight that outperforms
Samsung's offerings. The phone is an excellent choice for existing
Apple enthusiasts and those considering a switch.

https://www.androidpolice.com/apple-iphone-15-vs-samsung-galaxy-s23/

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 by: Wally J - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 21:25 UTC

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote

> The differences between these two phones are simultaneously very muted
> and yet cavernously loud.

You have to be an adult when you read that sentence in that iOS is like a
Barbie-and-Ken toy plastic corvette in terms of what it just cannot do.

The point is that you can't just ignore that the iPhone can't do thousands
(upon thousands!) of very useful things any Android phone can easily do.

> In a few specific specs the iPhone 15 edges
> out its competitor, yet the Samsung Galaxy S23 remains a better device
> when you evaluate the whole picture.

Please realize it's like comparing a Chevy with leather seats to a Ferrari
when they're "claiming" to compare 'specific specs' between the two phones.
<https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12548&idPhone2=12024>

You have to completely ignore that the iPhone can't do thousands (upon
thousands!) of very useful things that any Android phone easily does.

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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
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 by: Alan - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 22:29 UTC

On 2023-09-19 14:25, Wally J wrote:
> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote
>
>> The differences between these two phones are simultaneously very muted
>> and yet cavernously loud.
>
> You have to be an adult when you read that sentence in that iOS is like a
> Barbie-and-Ken toy plastic corvette in terms of what it just cannot do.
>
> The point is that you can't just ignore that the iPhone can't do thousands
> (upon thousands!) of very useful things any Android phone can easily do.
>
>> In a few specific specs the iPhone 15 edges
>> out its competitor, yet the Samsung Galaxy S23 remains a better device
>> when you evaluate the whole picture.
>
> Please realize it's like comparing a Chevy with leather seats to a Ferrari
> when they're "claiming" to compare 'specific specs' between the two phones.
> <https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=12548&idPhone2=12024>
>
> You have to completely ignore that the iPhone can't do thousands (upon
> thousands!) of very useful things that any Android phone easily does.

99.999% of which no ordinary consumers care about...

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 by: nospam - Tue, 19 Sep 2023 23:09 UTC

In article <ued7bt$2ibqn$1@dont-email.me>, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> >
> > You have to completely ignore that the iPhone can't do thousands (upon
> > thousands!) of very useful things that any Android phone easily does.
>
> 99.999% of which no ordinary consumers care about...

his claim of 'thousands upon thousands' is not true.

there's a small number of things that android can do that ios cannot do
and many things that ios can do that android cannot (or nowhere near as
easily). many have been previously listed, which he dutifully ignores.

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 by: candycanearter07 - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 02:54 UTC

On 9/19/23 17:29, Alan wrote:
> 99.999% of which no ordinary consumers care about...

Just because customers don't care about something doesn't mean it's not
nice to have the option.
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 by: Wally J - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 02:55 UTC

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote

> there's a small number of things that android can do that ios cannot do
> and many things that ios can do that android cannot (or nowhere near as
> easily). many have been previously listed, which he dutifully ignores.

You've never been able to list a single useful functionality on iOS that
isn't (usually long ago) already on Android, nospam.

*All you iKooks do is incessantly lie about imaginary iOS functionality*
Why?

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 by: Alan - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 07:34 UTC

On 2023-09-19 19:54, candycanearter07 wrote:
> On 9/19/23 17:29, Alan wrote:
>> 99.999% of which no ordinary consumers care about...
>
> Just because customers don't care about something doesn't mean it's not
> nice to have the option.

Personally? Sure.

As a business model? No way.

Apple sells iPhones in their billions BECAUSE they have a carefully
tended garden.

That that might mean that some functionalities aren't feasible is
irrelevant.

PEOPLE like that iPhones just WORK.

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 by: Wally J - Wed, 20 Sep 2023 08:37 UTC

candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote

> Just because customers don't care about something doesn't mean it's not
> nice to have the option.

The classic excuse for iKooks is nobody wants functionality on iOS.
And... "Nobody needs functionality on iOS*

If people "didn't care" about these things, all of which are impossible on
iOS, why is it every other operating system _except iOS_ can do them?

The iPhone can't set even the simplest of defaults for example it can't set
the default messenger or the default launcher or the default dialer.
It can't do automatic call recording for another glaring example.
The launcher for iOS is permanently locked and is as primitive as it gets.
The iOS spoofing of GPS is comically ridiculously crazy in that you have to
put a complete computer in your back pocket just to get iOS spoofing.
Likewise you need an entire computer just to easily back up your apps,
and worse, the iOS app backup is braindead compared to how APKs work.
There isn't any possibility of graphical ad free YouTube downloading.
Neither is there any possibility of privacy without an Apple login.
There's no chance of using an on device system wide ad blocker.
And there's no possibility of a decently functional on device firewall.
You can't even graph Wi-Fi signal strength for debuggings, and, for that
matter, you can't graph cellular signal strength either on the iPhone.
You can't even install the only safe TOR browser out there on iOS.
On iOS you can't save every IPA fully and completely each time you install
it (merely by the act of installation), nor can you install it on another
iPhone if you haven't already backed it up (whereas on Android you can).
Speaking of backup, on iOS you can't extract all the IPAs (even for system
apps) like you can on Android, so that a version you like will be saved.
On iOS there's no chance of downloading apps without having an Apple
account, whereas on Android you don't need a Google account for anything.
Plus Apple inserts a unique tracker into every single IPA you install.
etc.

All this... the iKooks claim "nobody wants it" & "nobody needs it".

What it means is the iPhone just does NOT work.
Meanwhile, for Android, all that just works.


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