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* bash: append in placecastAway
`* [meta] [OT] personal topic (was Re: bash: append in place)Janis Papanagnou
 +* [meta] [OT] personal topic (was Re: bash: append in place)Spiros Bousbouras
 |`- [meta] [OT] personal topic (was Re: bash: append in place)Janis Papanagnou
 +- [meta] [OT] personal topic (was Re: bash: append in place)Pyt T.
 +* [meta] [OT] personal topic (was Re: bash: append in place)Sophie Hamilton
 |`- [meta] [OT] personal topic (was Re: bash: append in place)Janis Papanagnou
 `* [meta] [OT] personal topic (was Re: bash: append in place)Jerry Peters
  `* [meta] [OT] personal topic (was Re: bash: append in place)pH
   `* [meta] [OT] personal topic (was Re: bash: append in place)Christian Weisgerber
    `- [meta] [OT] personal topic (was Re: bash: append in place)Kees Nuyt

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 by: castAway - Wed, 18 Jan 2023 03:31 UTC

On 30/11/2022 19:59, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> On 30.11.2022 18:59, Kenny McCormack wrote:
>> Note: not looking for workarounds, got plenty of my own.
>> In particular, if you have to code a loop, that takes the fun out of it.
>>
>> Anyway, suppose I do:
>>
>> $ set -- foo bar bletch
>>
>> I want to pass these args to a subprogram with "/*.c" appended to each.
>>
>> So, I'd like for:
>>
>> $ someCommand "${@/$/\/*.c}"
>>
>> to work, but it does not. This is b/c the above bash syntax doesn't deal
>> in reg exps; it is some other kind of pattern matcher.
>
> You've already got an answer using ${var/%...} which can (obviously in
> bash and zsh, but not in ksh) be simply written as "${@/%/.c}"
>
> $ set -- foo bar bletch
> $ echo "${@/%/.c}"
>
> (the more complex syntax in the other post produces "foo\/*.c bar\/*.c
> bletch\/*.c" in my environment which is not what I'd expect)
>
> If you want to avoid using/overwriting the positional parameters you can
> also use that pattern with array variables
>
> $ arr=( foo bar bletch )
> $ printf "'%s'\n" "${arr[@]/%/.c}"
>
>>
>> I seem to remember that there is a way to do this, but I can't recall it
>> ATM. Any ideas?
>
> Unless having a need for the arguments to be stored as $@, and the 'set'
> is just a part of the test sample you can use brace expansion (at least
> for constant file lists) like
>
> $ echo {foo,bar,bletch}.c
>
>
> Janis
>

So what does Janis mean? Is that a nickname?

Well, I wonder, Janis Joplin. Like a bi singer.+

That would be too great to have a woman looking at our code

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 by: Janis Papanagnou - Wed, 18 Jan 2023 05:34 UTC

On 18.01.2023 04:31, castAway wrote:
> On 30/11/2022 19:59, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>>
>> Janis
>
> So what does Janis mean? Is that a nickname?

It's a common forename you find in western Christian cultures that is
very common in many countries in their own country specific forms.
Mine stems from the Greek culture where the non-abbreviated spelling
is Ioannis. In anglo-american cultures it's usually written as Yanis;
see also the prominent Yanis Varoufakis (university professor in the
USA, IIRC, and temporarily part of the Greek government during the
financial crisis a decade ago).

So, no, it's (in this case) not a nickname. I prefer posting by real
name, while otherwise trying to keep my privacy intact - if (e.g.)
you're using google to find pictures of me you get only pictures of
other persons (even female ones) despite, I dare to say, that Janis
Papanagnou is a quite unique name combination even world wide.

>
> Well, I wonder, Janis Joplin. Like a bi singer.+

I always wondered whether that was a phonetic transcription of the
name Janice or a normal female name in the USA. Besides Janis Joplin
I've never seem that name given to a woman (but who am I to know).

>
> That would be too great to have a woman looking at our code

I'm sorry to have to disappoint you here. :-)

Myself I prefer to not distinguish personalities by gender; respect
everyone as he or she deserves it.

(OTOH it's indeed strange that there's so few (or even no) female
posters around here.)

Janis

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 by: Spiros Bousbouras - Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:58 UTC

On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 06:34:53 +0100
Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 18.01.2023 04:31, castAway wrote:
> > On 30/11/2022 19:59, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
> >>
> >> Janis
> >
> > So what does Janis mean? Is that a nickname?
>
> It's a common forename you find in western Christian cultures that is
> very common in many countries in their own country specific forms.

Like John in English or Johannes in German.

> Mine stems from the Greek culture where the non-abbreviated spelling
> is Ioannis. In anglo-american cultures it's usually written as Yanis;

Or Yianis or Yiannis. In German "J" is pronounced differently than in
English so for a German speaking person the natural pronunciation of
"Janis" is Yianis. I think in German "judo" is pronounced yioudo.

> see also the prominent Yanis Varoufakis (university professor in the
> USA, IIRC, and temporarily part of the Greek government during the
> financial crisis a decade ago).
>
> So, no, it's (in this case) not a nickname. I prefer posting by real
> name, while otherwise trying to keep my privacy intact - if (e.g.)

[...]

> (OTOH it's indeed strange that there's so few (or even no) female
> posters around here.)

This is the case on all comp* groups I frequent. On the other hand ,
rec.arts.sf.written has quite a few.

--
"Ensign Crusher is in Sickbay receiving fellatio from his mother."
"Oh no, not again," groans the Captain.
"He is not a true warrior!" exclaims Worf.
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.wesley.crusher.die.die.die/msg/8cc93193b362302b

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 by: Janis Papanagnou - Wed, 18 Jan 2023 15:13 UTC

On 18.01.2023 12:58, Spiros Bousbouras wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 06:34:53 +0100
> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 18.01.2023 04:31, castAway wrote:
>>> On 30/11/2022 19:59, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Janis
>>>
>>> So what does Janis mean? Is that a nickname?
>>
>> It's a common forename you find in western Christian cultures that is
>> very common in many countries in their own country specific forms.
>
> Like John in English or Johannes in German.

Exactly. And there's also abbreviated derived name forms like "Hans"
(in German). Also in other [Christian] countries it's typically a
very very common name; e.g. Jean in France, Giovanni in Italy, Juan
in Spanish, or Ivan in Russia, just to name a few prominent ones.
The Wikipedia has a nice thorough list of yet more language forms:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes

Janis

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 by: Pyt T. - Wed, 18 Jan 2023 19:42 UTC

On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 06:34:53 +0100, Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 18.01.2023 04:31, castAway wrote:
>> ..
>> Well, I wonder, Janis Joplin. Like a bi singer.+
>
> I always wondered whether that was a phonetic transcription of the
> name Janice or a normal female name in the USA. Besides Janis Joplin
> I've never seem that name given to a woman (but who am I to know).

You might know the song "Run too fast fly too high" from Janis Ian. :)

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 by: Sophie Hamilton - Thu, 19 Jan 2023 12:20 UTC

On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 06:34:53 +0100
Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote:
> (OTOH it's indeed strange that there's so few (or even no) female
> posters around here.)

If it helps, I read this group sometimes. But I've never posted here...
before now.

We do exist!

- Sophie.

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 by: Janis Papanagnou - Thu, 19 Jan 2023 16:56 UTC

On 19.01.2023 13:20, Sophie Hamilton wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 06:34:53 +0100
> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> (OTOH it's indeed strange that there's so few (or even no) female
>> posters around here.)
>
> If it helps, I read this group sometimes. But I've never posted here...
> before now.
>
> We do exist!

Glad to hear! :-)

Janis

>
> - Sophie.
>

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 by: Jerry Peters - Sun, 22 Jan 2023 20:47 UTC

Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 18.01.2023 04:31, castAway wrote:
>> On 30/11/2022 19:59, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>>>
>>> Janis
>>
>> So what does Janis mean? Is that a nickname?
>
> It's a common forename you find in western Christian cultures that is
> very common in many countries in their own country specific forms.
> Mine stems from the Greek culture where the non-abbreviated spelling
> is Ioannis. In anglo-american cultures it's usually written as Yanis;
> see also the prominent Yanis Varoufakis (university professor in the
> USA, IIRC, and temporarily part of the Greek government during the
> financial crisis a decade ago).
>
> So, no, it's (in this case) not a nickname. I prefer posting by real
> name, while otherwise trying to keep my privacy intact - if (e.g.)
> you're using google to find pictures of me you get only pictures of
> other persons (even female ones) despite, I dare to say, that Janis
> Papanagnou is a quite unique name combination even world wide.
>
>>
>> Well, I wonder, Janis Joplin. Like a bi singer.+
>
> I always wondered whether that was a phonetic transcription of the
> name Janice or a normal female name in the USA. Besides Janis Joplin
> I've never seem that name given to a woman (but who am I to know).
>
>>
>> That would be too great to have a woman looking at our code
>
> I'm sorry to have to disappoint you here. :-)
>
> Myself I prefer to not distinguish personalities by gender; respect
> everyone as he or she deserves it.
>
> (OTOH it's indeed strange that there's so few (or even no) female
> posters around here.)
>
> Janis

I found this:

What does Janis mean?

Janis Pronunciation of Janis ? as a name for girls is a Hebrew name,
and Janis means "God is gracious". Janis is an alternate spelling
of Jane (Hebrew): originally a feminine respelling of John. Janis
is also a variation of Janice (Hebrew).

http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Janis

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Subject: Re: [meta] [OT] personal topic (was Re: bash: append in place)
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 by: pH - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 02:20 UTC

On 2023-01-22, Jerry Peters <jerry@example.invalid> wrote:
> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 18.01.2023 04:31, castAway wrote:
>>> On 30/11/2022 19:59, Janis Papanagnou wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Janis
>>>
>>> So what does Janis mean? Is that a nickname?
>>
>> It's a common forename you find in western Christian cultures that is
>> very common in many countries in their own country specific forms.
>> Mine stems from the Greek culture where the non-abbreviated spelling
>> is Ioannis. In anglo-american cultures it's usually written as Yanis;
>> see also the prominent Yanis Varoufakis (university professor in the
>> USA, IIRC, and temporarily part of the Greek government during the
>> financial crisis a decade ago).
>>
>> So, no, it's (in this case) not a nickname. I prefer posting by real
>> name, while otherwise trying to keep my privacy intact - if (e.g.)
>> you're using google to find pictures of me you get only pictures of
>> other persons (even female ones) despite, I dare to say, that Janis
>> Papanagnou is a quite unique name combination even world wide.
>>
>>>
>>> Well, I wonder, Janis Joplin. Like a bi singer.+
>>
>> I always wondered whether that was a phonetic transcription of the
>> name Janice or a normal female name in the USA. Besides Janis Joplin
>> I've never seem that name given to a woman (but who am I to know).
>>
>>>
>>> That would be too great to have a woman looking at our code
>>
>> I'm sorry to have to disappoint you here. :-)
>>
>> Myself I prefer to not distinguish personalities by gender; respect
>> everyone as he or she deserves it.
>>
>> (OTOH it's indeed strange that there's so few (or even no) female
>> posters around here.)
>>
>> Janis
>
> I found this:
>
> What does Janis mean?
>
> Janis Pronunciation of Janis ? as a name for girls is a Hebrew name,
> and Janis means "God is gracious". Janis is an alternate spelling
> of Jane (Hebrew): originally a feminine respelling of John. Janis
> is also a variation of Janice (Hebrew).
>
> http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Janis

And in Latvian Janis (there's a squiggle over the N, I think) is pronounced
YAWN-iss and is the Latvian equivalent of "John".

pH in Aptos whose mom was latvian

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From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber)
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Subject: Re: [meta] [OT] personal topic (was Re: bash: append in place)
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 by: Christian Weisgerber - Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:55 UTC

On 2023-01-23, pH <wNOSPAMp@gmail.org> wrote:

>> http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Janis
>
> And in Latvian Janis (there's a squiggle over the N, I think) is pronounced
> YAWN-iss and is the Latvian equivalent of "John".

There is no "squiggle over the N" in Latvian orthography.

Go to Wikipedia, pick an article on one of the Biblical Johns, look
at the corresponding article in Latvian (Latviešu), there it is.

The diacritic in this case is a bar (macron) over the a: Jānis.

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On Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:55:38 -0000 (UTC), Christian Weisgerber
<naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:

> The diacritic in this case is a bar (macron) over the a: J?nis.

Which means it is a long 'a'.
https://translate.google.com/?sl=lv&tl=en&text=J%C4%81nis&op=translate
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