....because it's Apple:

'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button shortcut to
work this way:

— If the device orientation is face down or portrait upside-down, toggle
Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode from off to on, vibrate the
phone.)
— Otherwise launch Camera.

Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles Silent mode
with vibration for turning it on:'

<https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>

Alan wrote:

>...because it's Apple:
>
>'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button shortcut
>to work this way:
>
>— If the device orientation is face down or portrait upside-down,
>toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode from off to on,
>vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch Camera.
>
>Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles Silent
>mode with vibration for turning it on:'
>
><https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>

Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
functionality.

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very same reason.

On 2023-09-22 16:46, Alan wrote:
> ...because it's Apple:
>
> 'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button shortcut to
> work this way:
>
> — If the device orientation is face down or portrait upside-down, toggle
> Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode from off to on, vibrate the
> phone.)
>  — Otherwise launch Camera.

Interesting. I'm sure people will come up with lot of interesting
shortcuts to assign to the button.

>
> Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles Silent mode
> with vibration for turning it on:'
>
> <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>

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On 2023-09-22, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> ...because it's Apple:
>
> 'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button shortcut to
> work this way:
>
> — If the device orientation is face down or portrait upside-down, toggle
> Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode from off to on, vibrate the
> phone.)
> — Otherwise launch Camera.
>
> Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles Silent mode
> with vibration for turning it on:'
>
><https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>

Nice. Now I want a 15, dammit. 🤣

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On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> ...because it's Apple:
>>
>> 'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button shortcut
>> to work this way:
>>
>> — If the device orientation is face down or portrait upside-down,
>> toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode from off to on,
>> vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch Camera.
>>
>> Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles Silent
>> mode with vibration for turning it on:'
>>
>> <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>
>
>
> Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
> functionality.
>

Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.

That's the point.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>
>>> ...because it's Apple:
>>>
>>> 'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button shortcut
>>> to work this way:
>>>
>>> — If the device orientation is face down or portrait upside-down,
>>> toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode from off to on,
>>> vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch Camera.
>>>
>>> Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles Silent
>>> mode with vibration for turning it on:'
>>>
>>> <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>
>>
>>
>> Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
>> functionality.
>>
>
> Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.
>
> That's the point.
>

It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the orange bar
is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether you
silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with your
finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the edge of the
phone if it’s sitting on the table.

I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it that way,
but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt to a
new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.

On 2023-09-22 16:17, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...because it's Apple:
>>>>
>>>> 'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button
>>>> shortcut to work this way:
>>>>
>>>> — If the device orientation is face down or portrait
>>>> upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode
>>>> from off to on, vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch
>>>> Camera.
>>>>
>>>> Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles
>>>> Silent mode with vibration for turning it on:'
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>
>>>
>>>
>>> Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
>>> functionality.
>>>
>>
>> Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.
>>
>> That's the point.
>>
>
> It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
orange bar
> is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether
> you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with
> your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the
> edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.

Nope.

The shortcut makes it so that the button buzzes when silent is turned
ON. So it's just as tactile. Have the phone in your pocket and want to
check its silent status? Press the button. If it buzzes, it's now
silent. If it doesn't, press it again.

Done.

As for the silliness about "sitting on the table", my iPhone 8 is right
beside me—not more than 30" from my eyes, and I cannot see the status of
the switch from here; regardless of whether I put it face up or face down.

>
> I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it
> that way, > but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt
> to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.
And in return, get lots of ways you can use it IN ADDITION to that
single function.

Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is quite
limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is wasteful of
that scare resource.

Furthermore, designing as sliding switch to be waterproof is pretty
obviously more difficult than doing the same with a push button.

Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
bullshit you'd like to do?

On 2023-09-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-09-22 16:17, badgolferman wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.
>>>
>>> That's the point.
>>
>> It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
>> orange bar is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember
>> whether you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch
>> position with your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just
>> look at the edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.
>
> Nope.
>
> The shortcut makes it so that the button buzzes when silent is turned
> ON. So it's just as tactile. Have the phone in your pocket and want to
> check its silent status? Press the button. If it buzzes, it's now
> silent. If it doesn't, press it again.
>
> Done.
>
> As for the silliness about "sitting on the table", my iPhone 8 is
> right beside me—not more than 30" from my eyes, and I cannot see the
> status of the switch from here; regardless of whether I put it face up
> or face down.
>
>> I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it
>> that way, > but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will
>> have to adapt to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.
>
> And in return, get lots of ways you can use it IN ADDITION to that
> single function.
>
> Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is
> quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is
> wasteful of that scare resource.
>
> Furthermore, designing as sliding switch to be waterproof is pretty
> obviously more difficult than doing the same with a push button.
>
> Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
> bullshit you'd like to do?

Count on it. His posting history here shows whining about bullshit in
weak trolls is what he lives for.

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Am 23.09.23 um 08:04 schrieb Jolly Roger:
> On 2023-09-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
>> bullshit you'd like to do?
>
> Count on it. His posting history here shows whining about bullshit in
> weak trolls is what he lives for.

We all know that "badgolferman" is a notorious Troll and this week he
proved again he is not capable of coping with changes and progress.
Why are you both feeding this bored Troll?

Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am 23.09.23 um 08:04 schrieb Jolly Roger:
>> On 2023-09-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
>>> bullshit you'd like to do?
>>
>> Count on it. His posting history here shows whining about bullshit in
>> weak trolls is what he lives for.
>
> We all know that "badgolferman" is a notorious Troll and this week he
> proved again he is not capable of coping with changes and progress.
> Why are you both feeding this bored Troll?
>

Do you think he’s Arlen?

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-09-22 16:17, badgolferman wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> ...because it's Apple:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button
>>>>> shortcut to work this way:
>>>>>
>>>>> — If the device orientation is face down or portrait
>>>>> upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode
>>>>> from off to on, vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch
>>>>> Camera.
>>>>>
>>>>> Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles
>>>>> Silent mode with vibration for turning it on:'
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
>>>> functionality.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.
>>>
>>> That's the point.
>>>
>>
>> It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
> orange bar
>> is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether
>> you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with
>> your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the
>> edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.
>
> Nope.
>
> The shortcut makes it so that the button buzzes when silent is turned
> ON. So it's just as tactile. Have the phone in your pocket and want to
> check its silent status? Press the button. If it buzzes, it's now
> silent. If it doesn't, press it again.
>
> Done.
>
> As for the silliness about "sitting on the table", my iPhone 8 is right
> beside me—not more than 30" from my eyes, and I cannot see the status of
> the switch from here; regardless of whether I put it face up or face down.
>
>>
>> I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it
>> that way, > but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt
>> to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.
> And in return, get lots of ways you can use it IN ADDITION to that
> single function.
>
> Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is quite
> limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is wasteful of
> that scare resource.

It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
included, it is.

> Furthermore, designing as sliding switch to be waterproof is pretty
> obviously more difficult than doing the same with a push button.

Genuinely, how important is it for a phone to be waterproof to 6m for 30m?
Resistance to a good soaking in the rain or an accidental drop in the
bath/sink/toilet is plenty.

> Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
> bullshit you'd like to do?

Funny how some people think their experience is superior to anyone else's.
It must be weird to have only one perspective.

On 2023-09-23 03:46, Hank Rogers wrote:
> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Am 23.09.23 um 08:04 schrieb Jolly Roger:
>>> On 2023-09-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
>>>> bullshit you'd like to do?
>>>
>>> Count on it. His posting history here shows whining about bullshit in
>>> weak trolls is what he lives for.
>>
>> We all know that "badgolferman" is a notorious Troll and this week he
>> proved again he is not capable of coping with changes and progress.
>> Why are you both feeding this bored Troll?
>>
>
> Do you think he’s Arlen?

Remember straight man / funny man comedy teams?

That is this pair in the troll genre.

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On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-09-22 16:17, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...because it's Apple:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button
>>>>>> shortcut to work this way:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> — If the device orientation is face down or portrait
>>>>>> upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode
>>>>>> from off to on, vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch
>>>>>> Camera.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles
>>>>>> Silent mode with vibration for turning it on:'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
>>>>> functionality.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.
>>>>
>>>> That's the point.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
>> orange bar
>>> is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether
>>> you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with
>>> your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the
>>> edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> The shortcut makes it so that the button buzzes when silent is turned
>> ON. So it's just as tactile. Have the phone in your pocket and want to
>> check its silent status? Press the button. If it buzzes, it's now
>> silent. If it doesn't, press it again.
>>
>> Done.
>>
>> As for the silliness about "sitting on the table", my iPhone 8 is right
>> beside me—not more than 30" from my eyes, and I cannot see the status of
>> the switch from here; regardless of whether I put it face up or face down.
>>
>>>
>>> I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it
>>> that way, > but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt
>>> to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.
>> And in return, get lots of ways you can use it IN ADDITION to that
>> single function.
>>
>> Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is quite
>> limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is wasteful of
>> that scare resource.
>
> It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
> included, it is.

But you haven't lost that use.

It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

>
>> Furthermore, designing as sliding switch to be waterproof is pretty
>> obviously more difficult than doing the same with a push button.
>
> Genuinely, how important is it for a phone to be waterproof to 6m for 30m?
> Resistance to a good soaking in the rain or an accidental drop in the
> bath/sink/toilet is plenty.
>
>> Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
>> bullshit you'd like to do?
>
> Funny how some people think their experience is superior to anyone else's.
> It must be weird to have only one perspective.

How is your stance the least bit different.

You're insisting you've lost something that you empirically HAVE NOT LOST.

On 2023-09-23, Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am 23.09.23 um 08:04 schrieb Jolly Roger:
>> On 2023-09-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
>>> bullshit you'd like to do?
>>
>> Count on it. His posting history here shows whining about bullshit in
>> weak trolls is what he lives for.
>
> We all know that "badgolferman" is a notorious Troll and this week he
> proved again he is not capable of coping with changes and progress.
> Why are you both feeding this bored Troll?

Why are you feeding it now? Ironic.

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On 2023-09-23, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
> On 2023-09-23 03:46, Hank Rogers wrote:
>> Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> Am 23.09.23 um 08:04 schrieb Jolly Roger:
>>>> On 2023-09-23, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
>>>>> bullshit you'd like to do?
>>>>
>>>> Count on it. His posting history here shows whining about bullshit
>>>> in weak trolls is what he lives for.
>>>
>>> We all know that "badgolferman" is a notorious Troll and this week
>>> he proved again he is not capable of coping with changes and
>>> progress. Why are you both feeding this bored Troll?
>>
>> Do you think he’s Arlen?
>
> Remember straight man / funny man comedy teams?
>
> That is this pair in the troll genre.

They are part of the same team. They always back each other up.

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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-22 16:17, badgolferman wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...because it's Apple:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button
>>>>>>> shortcut to work this way:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> — If the device orientation is face down or portrait
>>>>>>> upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode
>>>>>>> from off to on, vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch
>>>>>>> Camera.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles
>>>>>>> Silent mode with vibration for turning it on:'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
>>>>>> functionality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's the point.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
>>> orange bar
>>>> is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether
>>>> you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with
>>>> your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the
>>>> edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> The shortcut makes it so that the button buzzes when silent is turned
>>> ON. So it's just as tactile. Have the phone in your pocket and want to
>>> check its silent status? Press the button. If it buzzes, it's now
>>> silent. If it doesn't, press it again.
>>>
>>> Done.
>>>
>>> As for the silliness about "sitting on the table", my iPhone 8 is right
>>> beside me—not more than 30" from my eyes, and I cannot see the status of
>>> the switch from here; regardless of whether I put it face up or face down.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it
>>>> that way, > but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt
>>>> to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.
>>> And in return, get lots of ways you can use it IN ADDITION to that
>>> single function.
>>>
>>> Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is quite
>>> limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is wasteful of
>>> that scare resource.
>>
>> It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
>> included, it is.
>
> But you haven't lost that use.
>
> It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.

It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.

>>
>>> Furthermore, designing as sliding switch to be waterproof is pretty
>>> obviously more difficult than doing the same with a push button.
>>
>> Genuinely, how important is it for a phone to be waterproof to 6m for 30m?
>> Resistance to a good soaking in the rain or an accidental drop in the
>> bath/sink/toilet is plenty.
>>
>>> Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
>>> bullshit you'd like to do?
>>
>> Funny how some people think their experience is superior to anyone else's.
>> It must be weird to have only one perspective.
>
> How is your stance the least bit different.

I'm not dismissing your view as whining or bullshit.

> You're insisting you've lost something that you empirically HAVE NOT LOST.

I regularly look at my phone to see if it's on mute or not. I won't be able
to do that on the 15. So yes the functionality has EXPLICITLY GONE. I don't
want a multifunction button. It'll work just as well as double/back tap
i.e. not very.

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> They are part of the same team.

There are only three adults on this newsgroup - you've got two of them.

HINT: All the child-like iKooks are uneducated, ignorant and have a low IQ
(i.e., Alan Browne, Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger, nospam, etc.)

Hence the only other adult is also
a. Well educated
b. Not ignorant
c. At least a normal IQ

Who is the third adult on this newsgroup, Jolly Roger?
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On 2023-09-23 15:29, Chris wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2023-09-22 16:17, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-09-22 14:16, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...because it's Apple:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 'Since publishing my review, I’ve tweaked my Action button
>>>>>>>> shortcut to work this way:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> — If the device orientation is face down or portrait
>>>>>>>> upside-down, toggle Silent mode. (And when turning Silent mode
>>>>>>>> from off to on, vibrate the phone.) — Otherwise launch
>>>>>>>> Camera.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Screenshot of the main shortcut, and the helper that toggles
>>>>>>>> Silent mode with vibration for turning it on:'
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.threads.net/@gruber/post/CxgAPvMuhOa>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Customization is always good, but not at the expense of proven
>>>>>>> functionality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except it isn't at the expense of proven functionality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's the point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is. The visual/tactile indicator of the rocker switch and the
>>>> orange bar
>>>>> is lost now. Now if you’re in a meeting and can’t remember whether
>>>>> you silenced your phone, you can’t just feel the switch position with
>>>>> your finger if it’s in your pocket and you can’t just look at the
>>>>> edge of the phone if it’s sitting on the table.
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> The shortcut makes it so that the button buzzes when silent is turned
>>>> ON. So it's just as tactile. Have the phone in your pocket and want to
>>>> check its silent status? Press the button. If it buzzes, it's now
>>>> silent. If it doesn't, press it again.
>>>>
>>>> Done.
>>>>
>>>> As for the silliness about "sitting on the table", my iPhone 8 is right
>>>> beside me—not more than 30" from my eyes, and I cannot see the status of
>>>> the switch from here; regardless of whether I put it face up or face down.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know you don’t care about any of that because you didn’t use it
>>>>> that way, > but many people did. It’s all the rest of us who will have to adapt
>>>>> to a new method when the old way worked perfectly fine.
>>>> And in return, get lots of ways you can use it IN ADDITION to that
>>>> single function.
>>>>
>>>> Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is quite
>>>> limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is wasteful of
>>>> that scare resource.
>>>
>>> It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
>>> included, it is.
>>
>> But you haven't lost that use.
>>
>> It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.
>
> It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.
>
>>>
>>>> Furthermore, designing as sliding switch to be waterproof is pretty
>>>> obviously more difficult than doing the same with a push button.
>>>
>>> Genuinely, how important is it for a phone to be waterproof to 6m for 30m?
>>> Resistance to a good soaking in the rain or an accidental drop in the
>>> bath/sink/toilet is plenty.
>>>
>>>> Now. Have you got any more whining about things that are obviously
>>>> bullshit you'd like to do?
>>>
>>> Funny how some people think their experience is superior to anyone else's.
>>> It must be weird to have only one perspective.
>>
>> How is your stance the least bit different.
>
> I'm not dismissing your view as whining or bullshit.

But you're still dismissing it...

....which is the essence of thinking your experience is superior.

>
>> You're insisting you've lost something that you empirically HAVE NOT LOST.
>
> I regularly look at my phone to see if it's on mute or not. I won't be able
> to do that on the 15. So yes the functionality has EXPLICITLY GONE. I don't
> want a multifunction button. It'll work just as well as double/back tap
> i.e. not very.

Yes, you will. You just won't be able to look at the status ON THE SWITCH.

You're not very good at this whole "thinking it through" thing...

....are you?

On 2023-09-23 15:50, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> They are part of the same team.
>
> There are only three adults on this newsgroup - you've got two of them.
>
> HINT: All the child-like iKooks are uneducated, ignorant and have a low IQ
> (i.e., Alan Browne, Alan Baker, Joerg Lorenz, Jolly Roger, nospam, etc.)
>
> Hence the only other adult is also
> a. Well educated

So me.

> b. Not ignorant

Also me.

> c. At least a normal IQ
And me!

On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is
>>>> quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is
>>>> wasteful of that scare resource.
>>>
>>> It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
>>> included, it is.
>>
>> But you haven't lost that use.
>>
>> It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.
>
> It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.

A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose switch
that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable button.

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On 2023-09-23, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> They are part of the same team.
>
> child-like
> iKooks
> uneducated
> ignorant
> low IQ

Like a child, Arlen just keeps repeating the same, tried insults
thinking they are magically more effective when repeated. What a bore.

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On 2023-09-23 17:59, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is
>>>>> quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is
>>>>> wasteful of that scare resource.
>>>>
>>>> It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
>>>> included, it is.
>>>
>>> But you haven't lost that use.
>>>
>>> It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.
>>
>> It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.
>
> A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose switch
> that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable button.
>

But Chris might have to exercise his brain for 5 minutes to figure out
how to use this new switch!!!!!

Weahhhhhh! It's not fair!

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> thinking they are magically more effective when repeated

Actually, every post from you iKooks proves me correct, Jolly Roger.

Hence, they're not insults.

They're facts.

About you.

On 2023-09-23 18:54, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> thinking they are magically more effective when repeated
>
> Actually, every post from you iKooks proves me correct, Jolly Roger.
>
> Hence, they're not insults.
>
> They're facts.
>
> About you.

LOL!

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2023-09-23, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-09-23 03:16, Chris wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Real estate on the outside of a phone that isn't on the screen is
>>>>> quite limited. Having buttons/controls that only do one thing is
>>>>> wasteful of that scare resource.
>>>>
>>>> It depends if it's a valuable use of that resource. For many, myself
>>>> included, it is.
>>>
>>> But you haven't lost that use.
>>>
>>> It is very slightly changed, but you've still got it.
>>
>> It's fundamentally changed. Hardware removed in favour of software.
>
> A limited single-purpose switch was replaced by a multi-purpose switch
> that is both *much* more flexible and *much* more capable button.

Whilst reducing the simplicity and effectiveness of its main purpose.