This has given me two FFs and screwed up my system.
How do I uninstall the little devil?

Ed

Ed Cryer wrote:

> This has given me two FFs and screwed up my system.
> How do I uninstall the little devil?

Have you installed Firefox from the Microsoft Store, as well as from a
Mozilla "firefox installer.exe" download?

Andy Burns wrote:
> Ed Cryer wrote:
>
>> This has given me two FFs and screwed up my system.
>> How do I uninstall the little devil?
>
> Have you installed Firefox from the Microsoft Store, as well as from a
> Mozilla "firefox installer.exe" download?
>

No, not to my recollection.

Supposing someone did that, how would they right the situation?

Ed

Ed Cryer wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> Have you installed Firefox from the Microsoft Store
>
> No, not to my recollection.

Perhaps if you launch Microsoft Store and go to Library, Apps it might
show up if you ever had?

Andy Burns wrote:
> Ed Cryer wrote:
>
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> Have you installed Firefox from the Microsoft Store
>>
>> No, not to my recollection.
>
> Perhaps if you launch Microsoft Store and go to Library, Apps it might
> show up if you ever had?
>

Yes, it was in my MS Store. Installed 3 days ago.
I went back to Windows Apps Installed and found it in the list (way
further down than the prior FF, and with the black-background icon).
I uninstalled and it's gone, leaving the proper FF working well apart
from the icon problem.

How the dickens did it come from the Store? Did I do it accidentally, or
have some sort of old-age preview, or was I drunk?
All of those options ain't me. Well, a couple of glasses of wine with a
good evening meal.

How're your two entries? Have you got one from the Store like me?

Ed

Ed Cryer wrote:

> How're your two entries? Have you got one from the Store like me?

Still got two, one installed "conventionally" and none installed from
the store.

Andy Burns wrote:
> Ed Cryer wrote:
>
>> How're your two entries? Have you got one from the Store like me?
>
> Still got two, one installed "conventionally" and none installed from
> the store.

So then, you installed from the store fully compos mentis and de deliberto?
Why?

I'm about to re-install FF.
Simple process;
1. Export all bookmarks.
2. Make list of all add-ons.
3. Thorough uninstall of FF; probably using Iobit.
Download and install.
Get add-ons.

Ed

On 21/09/2023 18:50, Ed Cryer wrote:
> Andy Burns wrote:
>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>
>>> How're your two entries? Have you got one from the Store like me?
>>
>> Still got two, one installed "conventionally" and none installed from
>> the store.
>
> So then, you installed from the store fully compos mentis and de deliberto?
> Why?

no, I said "none" from the store

> I'm about to re-install FF.
> Simple process;
> 1. Export all bookmarks.
> 2. Make list of all add-ons.
> 3. Thorough uninstall of FF; probably using Iobit.
> Download and install.
> Get add-ons.

Andy Burns wrote:
> On 21/09/2023 18:50, Ed Cryer wrote:
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>>
>>>> How're your two entries? Have you got one from the Store like me?
>>>
>>> Still got two, one installed "conventionally" and none installed from
>>> the store.
>>
>> So then, you installed from the store fully compos mentis and de
>> deliberto?
>> Why?
>
> no, I said "none" from the store
>
>> I'm about to re-install FF.
>> Simple process;
>> 1. Export all bookmarks.
>> 2. Make list of all add-ons.
>> 3. Thorough uninstall of FF; probably using Iobit.
>> Download and install.
>> Get add-ons.
>
>

So then, where did the other come from?

(Aside, to the powers that be.
This guy seems more interested in maintaining his ego than in sharing
knowledge)

Ed

On 9/21/2023 11:10 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
> Andy Burns wrote:
>> Ed Cryer wrote:
>>
>>> This has given me two FFs and screwed up my system.
>>> How do I uninstall the little devil?
>>
>> Have you installed Firefox from the Microsoft Store, as well as from a Mozilla "firefox installer.exe" download?
>>
>
> No, not to my recollection.
>
> Supposing someone did that, how would they right the situation?
>
> Ed

I'm not able to see any shards right now.
I suspect materials downloaded from the MicrosoftStore are
erased after completion of the install process.

The store philosophy is "download, if you need to refresh".

The win32 philisophy, was to look for a cached .msi file (anonymized),
if you needed to refresh. Windows kept a folder full of those. That's
why Programs and Features could have a Repair option.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/RCWnjJLC/two-firefox.gif

The Settings Wheel:Apps GUI allows removal. Deleting the named folder with
goods in it, that might kill the manifest file. But it may not
remove the package info. And that could be inside an SQLITE file.

I had to use nfi.exe to find it. There are a couple journal files
next to it, with a similar root name. You don't need the journal files
to be able to read the contents. But if you were messing around, you
may want to remove the journals before bodging the .srd and putting it back.
I used Linux to get in here.

F:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\AppRepository\StateRepository-Machine.srd

After much fussing about...

INSERT INTO PackageIdentity VALUES(370,1,58,'Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection_4.17.8180.0_neutral_~_8wekyb3d8bbwe',NULL);
INSERT INTO PackageIdentity VALUES(371,1,58,'Microsoft.MicrosoftSolitaireCollection_4.17.8180.0_x64__8wekyb3d8bbwe',NULL);
INSERT INTO PackageIdentity VALUES(372,1,95,'Mozilla.Firefox_117.0.1.0_x64__n80bbvh6b1yt2',NULL); <=== MicrosoftStore Metro one

From Powershell, if the Settings "Apps" interface did not impress,
you should be able to use the PackageName, as part of a command to
remove a Metro App. That number on the end, stands for "Mozilla" and
Thunderbird should have the same vendor string. The number itself
does not say "Firefox" as such.

Mozilla.Firefox_117.0.1.0_x64__n80bbvh6b1yt2

My Win32 Firefox is version 115. The MicrosoftStore one I installed is 117.
And that's how I can tell which one I'm dealing with. If they were
the same version, that would cause more anxiety.

Note that, they are sharing the "profiles.ini" file. I learned yesterday,
that if you install a second Firefox, it creates a new profile and
puts it in the profiles.ini.

firefox.exe -p # For the Win32 version, this would bring up Profile Manager
# and allow you to select the "right" profile for the job.
# You would select the "old" folder for the EXE in my test run.
# And select the "new" (empty) folder for the MS Store one.
# I can look at the dates of the Profile folders, to sort which one
# is which. At least today I can...

Starting the Metro one, and passing " -p " to it. Forget it!
You can't do that! No, they're not "functionally equivalent".

Paul

On 9/21/2023 2:01 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:

> So then, where did the other come from?
>
> (Aside, to the powers that be.
> This guy seems more interested in maintaining his ego than in sharing knowledge)
>
> Ed

You don't want the Metro one from the MicrosoftStore.

Because... IT IS NOT FUNCTIONALLY EQUIVALENT.

How, for example, would you select a profile from the Profile Manager, with the MSStore one ???

You cannot launch a Metro store from the command line,
and pass parameters to it. Still waiting...

Whole wodges of functions are missing.

shell:appfolder # In File Explorer

Can you edit the shortcut in there ? NO.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/j5HyCLZn/Metro-Launching-Shell-Colon-Apps-Folder.gif

Paul

Paul wrote:
> On 9/21/2023 2:01 PM, Ed Cryer wrote:
>
>> So then, where did the other come from?
>>
>> (Aside, to the powers that be.
>> This guy seems more interested in maintaining his ego than in sharing knowledge)
>>
>> Ed
>
> You don't want the Metro one from the MicrosoftStore.
>
> Because... IT IS NOT FUNCTIONALLY EQUIVALENT.
>
> How, for example, would you select a profile from the Profile Manager, with the MSStore one ???
>
> You cannot launch a Metro store from the command line,
> and pass parameters to it. Still waiting...
>
> Whole wodges of functions are missing.
>
> shell:appfolder # In File Explorer
>
> Can you edit the shortcut in there ? NO.
>
> [Picture]
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/j5HyCLZn/Metro-Launching-Shell-Colon-Apps-Folder.gif
>
> Paul
>

Thanks, Paul.
I can't help but feel a little resentment against MS. They should have
checked that I didn't have a FF installed before putting in their
overlay thing, which has caused me some trouble.

BTW, would you kindly have a word with Andy Burns. He's left an elephant
in the room, telling us he has two FFs installed but not saying where
the second one came from.

Ed

Ed Cryer wrote:

> would you kindly have a word with Andy Burns. He's left an elephant
> in the room, telling us he has two FFs installed but not saying where
> the second one came from.

I don't have two instances of firefox installed ...

C:\Users\Andy>dir /s C:\firefox.exe

Volume in drive C is Windows-SSD
Volume Serial Number is F8C9-6BF6

Directory of C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox

14/09/2023 09:37 675,232 firefox.exe
1 File(s) 675,232 bytes

Total Files Listed:
1 File(s) 675,232 bytes
0 Dir(s) 358,426,599,424 bytes free

I just get two firefox icons under Settings > Apps > Default Apps

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