On 20/02/2023 20:04, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-02-20 07:33, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>> mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:56:10 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> As long as people need to type in passwords they aren't going to
>>>>> use long and complicated strings.
>>>>
>>>> No excuse!
>>>
>>> And long passwords need not be difficult.
>>> 1RoseByAnyOtherNameWillSmellAsSweet!
>>> will be just fine,
>>
>> Good, but insert a few numbers/spec chars in the middle too ... along
>> with a misspelled word and caps in the "wrong" places ... and it will be
>> as good as random where a dictionary+brute force attack occurs.
>
> Most sites insist nowadays on at least one digit,
> one capitalised letter, and one special sign.
> My example complies,

I often seem to manage to pick the one special character that isn't
allowed! Then the website doesn't tell me what's wrong, it just repeats
what it already told me, something like "your password must include at
least 8 characters including one lowercase letter, one uppercase letter,
one digit, and one special character or punctuation symbol".

--
Brian Gregory (in England).

Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

> On 20/02/2023 20:04, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2023-02-20 07:33, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >>> mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:56:10 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> As long as people need to type in passwords they aren't going to
> >>>>> use long and complicated strings.
> >>>>
> >>>> No excuse!
> >>>
> >>> And long passwords need not be difficult.
> >>> 1RoseByAnyOtherNameWillSmellAsSweet!
> >>> will be just fine,
> >>
> >> Good, but insert a few numbers/spec chars in the middle too ... along
> >> with a misspelled word and caps in the "wrong" places ... and it will be
> >> as good as random where a dictionary+brute force attack occurs.
> >
> > Most sites insist nowadays on at least one digit,
> > one capitalised letter, and one special sign.
> > My example complies,
>
>
> I often seem to manage to pick the one special character that isn't
> allowed! Then the website doesn't tell me what's wrong, it just repeats
> what it already told me, something like "your password must include at
> least 8 characters including one lowercase letter, one uppercase letter,
> one digit, and one special character or punctuation symbol".

I've found some sites don't accept the question mark,

Jan

On Mon, 20 Mar 2023 13:51:31 -0000, J. J. Lodder <nospam@de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:

> Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 20/02/2023 20:04, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> > Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 2023-02-20 07:33, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> >>> mechanic <mechanic@example.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2023 22:56:10 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> As long as people need to type in passwords they aren't going to
>> >>>>> use long and complicated strings.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> No excuse!
>> >>>
>> >>> And long passwords need not be difficult.
>> >>> 1RoseByAnyOtherNameWillSmellAsSweet!
>> >>> will be just fine,
>> >>
>> >> Good, but insert a few numbers/spec chars in the middle too ... along
>> >> with a misspelled word and caps in the "wrong" places ... and it will be
>> >> as good as random where a dictionary+brute force attack occurs.
>> >
>> > Most sites insist nowadays on at least one digit,
>> > one capitalised letter, and one special sign.
>> > My example complies,
>>
>>
>> I often seem to manage to pick the one special character that isn't
>> allowed! Then the website doesn't tell me what's wrong, it just repeats
>> what it already told me, something like "your password must include at
>> least 8 characters including one lowercase letter, one uppercase letter,
>> one digit, and one special character or punctuation symbol".
>
> I've found some sites don't accept the question mark,

I've never had symbols denied. I have had a space in my username denied though.

To pick a password, I tap the shift key with one hand, while mashing the letters and numbers with the other, so I get something like E^J*4^JHd6u.

Then when I go to copy and paste it from my text file of passwords, I come back to the website and find a red marker saying I'm an idiot for not entering the password. Either that or I fill in the form in the order I think of things, and it gets very upset saying I forgot the other thing, just because I dared to enter my name first. Or I fill everything in, press ok, then it complains the captcha which hadn't loaded yet hadn't been filled in, then it removes the password I entered, so when I fill in the captcha, it's still annoyed. Web designers are morons.