micky wrote:

> No other email program ever wanted that.

I don't know about BlueMail micky, but I've been in touch with the
developer of FairMail (also the developer of NetGuard) who went to great
lengths, emotionally and programatically, to ensure we can log into Google
Accounts from Android without needing 2FA/2SV and by using only OAUth like
Thunderbird does (and presumably, soon, the Thunderbird K9mail variant).

Here are some URLs that will help you (and others) as one huuuuuuuuge
advantage of NOT using the GMail app on Android is that the GMail app will
_create_ an account on the Android phone (which is a horrid thing to do).
<https://email.faircode.eu/> (best privacy aware MUA for Android, IMHO)
<https://netguard.me/> (the only no-root free firewall & ad blocker hosts)

Android works _better_ without the Google Account assigned to the phone.
You just have to know which are the better clients to use than Google's.

FairMail is one of them.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email>
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On 24/03/2023 05:50, Andy Burnelli wrote:

> I don't know about BlueMail micky, but I've been in touch with the
> developer of FairMail

> FairMail is one of them.

Just FYI, and anyone else who's trying to look for it, it is
*FairEmail*, not "FairMail".
I use it with my Android phone.

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Jeff Layman wrote:

>> FairMail is one of them.
>
> Just FYI, and anyone else who's trying to look for it, it is
> *FairEmail*, not "FairMail".
> I use it with my Android phone.

Thanks. I gave the link the first time I posted, as I generally go to the
extra trouble to dig up the links so others always benefit from my posts.

*FairEmail*, privacy aware email by Marcel Bokhorst, FairCode BV, FOSS
Free, ad free, gsf free, 4.6 star, 24.3K reviews, 500K+ Downloads
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.email>
<https://email.faircode.eu/>
<https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail/releases>
<https://f-droid.org/en/packages/eu.faircode.email/>
<https://www.xda-developers.com/fairemail-email-app-privacy-conscious-android/>
<https://www.xda-developers.com/fairemail-open-source-privacy-friendly-email/>

It's important for me to state that some Google apps, not many, but certainly
the GMail MUA does it, do nefarious unexpected things (surprise!) so you
really can't use those Google apps unless you don't care what the app does.
A year ago, just one of those (multiple!) Draconian differences with Google
almost made Marcel of FairEmail give up - which Google did on purpose (imho).
<https://www.ghacks.net/2022/05/19/fairemail-developer-calls-it-quits-and-pulls-apps-from-google-play/>

Google would love to have the same restrictive walled garden Apple has.
Luckily no other MUA does the nasty things that the GMail client does.

Luckily, there are always better alternatives to the Google apps
and these clients are generally FOSS and few contain GSF spyware.

Note that K-9 Mail was taken over by Mozilla & it has a lower rating.
*K-9 Mail* by K-9 Dog Walkers
Free, ad free, gsf free, 3.1 star 97K reviews 5M+ Downloads
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fsck.k9>
<https://k9mail.app/>
<https://f-droid.org/packages/com.fsck.k9/>
<https://github.com/thundernest/k-9/releases>
<https://www.amazon.com/K-9-Dog-Walkers-Mail/dp/B004JK61K0/>
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