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* Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics relatedDon Spam's Reckless Son
+* Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics relatedDon Spam's Reckless Son
|`- Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics relatedgrinch
+* Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics relatedCarlos E.R.
|`* Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics relatedgrinch
| `- Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics relatedCarlos E.R.
+- Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics relatedDon Spam's Reckless Son
`* Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics relatedDon Spam's Reckless Son
 `* Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics relatedCarlos E.R.
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From: hyperspace.flyover@vogon.gov.invalid (Don Spam's Reckless Son)
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Subject: Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics related
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 by: Don Spam's Reck - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 08:00 UTC

kernel-default-5.14.21-150400.24.49.3.x86_64 came out a day or so ago
[leap 15.4] and I have been installing it on various machines. The AMD
machines with Radeon Graphics are perfectly happy with it but my
10-year-old Acer Laptop [intel graphics] freezes 3.6 seconds into the
boot process.

The last message before it stops is
fb0: switching to i915 from EFI VGA

The obvious workaround is to boot the previous kernel and that works
just fine.

I see others have had the problem over the last year, but theirs appear
to be with brand new Intel Graphics systems and that does not describe
my laptop.
https://superuser.com/questions/1761864/leap-15-4-boot-hangs-on-fbo-switching-to-i915-from-efi-vga
is an example.

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From: hyperspace.flyover@vogon.gov.invalid (Don Spam's Reckless Son)
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Subject: Re: Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics related
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 by: Don Spam's Reck - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 10:12 UTC

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> kernel-default-5.14.21-150400.24.49.3.x86_64 came out a day or so ago
> [leap 15.4] and I have been installing it on various machines.  The AMD
> machines with Radeon Graphics are perfectly happy with it but my
> 10-year-old Acer Laptop [intel graphics] freezes 3.6 seconds into the
> boot process.
>
> The last message before it stops is
> fb0: switching to i915 from EFI VGA
>
> The obvious workaround is to boot the previous kernel and that works
> just fine.
>
> I see others have had the problem over the last year, but theirs appear
> to be with brand new Intel Graphics systems and that does not describe
> my laptop.
> https://superuser.com/questions/1761864/leap-15-4-boot-hangs-on-fbo-switching-to-i915-from-efi-vga
> is an example.

*Workaround*

It boots ok if I specify "nomodeset".

The messages which followed
fb0: switching to i915 from EFI VGA

with the *previous* kernel (and without nomodeset) were:
Console: switching to colour dummy device 80x25
i915 0000:00:02.0: vgaarb: deactivate vga console

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Subject: Re: Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics related
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 by: grinch - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 16:31 UTC

On 18/03/2023 10:12, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>> kernel-default-5.14.21-150400.24.49.3.x86_64 came out a day or so ago
>> [leap 15.4] and I have been installing it on various machines.  The
>> AMD machines with Radeon Graphics are perfectly happy with it but my
>> 10-year-old Acer Laptop [intel graphics] freezes 3.6 seconds into the
>> boot process.
>>
>> The last message before it stops is
>> fb0: switching to i915 from EFI VGA
>>
>> The obvious workaround is to boot the previous kernel and that works
>> just fine.
>>
>> I see others have had the problem over the last year, but theirs
>> appear to be with brand new Intel Graphics systems and that does not
>> describe my laptop.
>> https://superuser.com/questions/1761864/leap-15-4-boot-hangs-on-fbo-switching-to-i915-from-efi-vga is an example.
>
>

I have the same issue with my 3 year old i9 machine. I have taken the
lazy way out and boot from the previous kernel ,so its not just your old
laptop that is the issue.

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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
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Subject: Re: Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics related
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 by: Carlos E.R. - Sat, 18 Mar 2023 21:06 UTC

On 2023-03-18 09:00, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> kernel-default-5.14.21-150400.24.49.3.x86_64 came out a day or so ago
> [leap 15.4] and I have been installing it on various machines.  The AMD
> machines with Radeon Graphics are perfectly happy with it but my
> 10-year-old Acer Laptop [intel graphics] freezes 3.6 seconds into the
> boot process.
>
> The last message before it stops is
> fb0: switching to i915 from EFI VGA
>
> The obvious workaround is to boot the previous kernel and that works
> just fine.
>
> I see others have had the problem over the last year, but theirs appear
> to be with brand new Intel Graphics systems and that does not describe
> my laptop.
> https://superuser.com/questions/1761864/leap-15-4-boot-hangs-on-fbo-switching-to-i915-from-efi-vga is an example.

Has been commented on the mail list, there is a bugzilla, and they are
working on it.

https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1209436

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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Subject: Re: Freeze with newest kernel - probably Intel-Graphics related
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 by: grinch - Mon, 20 Mar 2023 09:29 UTC

On 18/03/2023 21:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2023-03-18 09:00, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>> kernel-default-5.14.21-150400.24.49.3.x86_64 came out a day or so ago
>> [leap 15.4] and I have been installing it on various machines.  The
>> AMD machines with Radeon Graphics are perfectly happy with it but my
>> 10-year-old Acer Laptop [intel graphics] freezes 3.6 seconds into the
>> boot process.
>>
>> The last message before it stops is
>> fb0: switching to i915 from EFI VGA
>>
>> The obvious workaround is to boot the previous kernel and that works
>> just fine.
>>
>> I see others have had the problem over the last year, but theirs
>> appear to be with brand new Intel Graphics systems and that does not
>> describe my laptop.
>> https://superuser.com/questions/1761864/leap-15-4-boot-hangs-on-fbo-switching-to-i915-from-efi-vga is an example.
>
>
> Has been commented on the mail list, there is a bugzilla, and they are
> working on it.
>
> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1209436
>
>
The offending kernel was in Yasts redacted list so I uninstalled it via
yast and all working properly now.

I have only added this post in case anybody else is looking for a simple
fix ,google will hopefully find this.

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From: robin_listas@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
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 by: Carlos E.R. - Mon, 20 Mar 2023 09:43 UTC

On 2023-03-20 10:29, grinch wrote:
> On 18/03/2023 21:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2023-03-18 09:00, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>>> kernel-default-5.14.21-150400.24.49.3.x86_64 came out a day or so ago
>>> [leap 15.4] and I have been installing it on various machines.  The
>>> AMD machines with Radeon Graphics are perfectly happy with it but my
>>> 10-year-old Acer Laptop [intel graphics] freezes 3.6 seconds into the
>>> boot process.
>>>
>>> The last message before it stops is
>>> fb0: switching to i915 from EFI VGA
>>>
>>> The obvious workaround is to boot the previous kernel and that works
>>> just fine.
>>>
>>> I see others have had the problem over the last year, but theirs
>>> appear to be with brand new Intel Graphics systems and that does not
>>> describe my laptop.
>>> https://superuser.com/questions/1761864/leap-15-4-boot-hangs-on-fbo-switching-to-i915-from-efi-vga is an example.
>>
>>
>> Has been commented on the mail list, there is a bugzilla, and they are
>> working on it.
>>
>> https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1209436
>>
>>
> The offending kernel was in Yasts redacted list so I uninstalled it via
> yast and all working properly now.
>
> I have only added this post in case anybody else is looking for a simple
> fix ,google will hopefully find this.

Google should find the thread in the mail list where the maintainer
explains what is going on, not this thread ;-)

+++..................
As already mentioned in this thread, it's tracked in
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1209436

The problematic i915 fix patch was dropped from SLE15-SP4 git branch,
and the 5.14.21-150400.24.49 update kernel was retracted now.
We're going to prepare a new update.

The upstream 5.15.y hit the same issue and reverted it afterwards, but
unfortunately the revert was overlooked while backporting the fixes to
SLE15-SP4 branch. And it seemed slipping from QA's fingers...
...................++-

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Don Spam's Reck - Sat, 1 Apr 2023 08:26 UTC

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> kernel-default-5.14.21-150400.24.49.3.x86_64 came out a day or so ago
> [leap 15.4] and I have been installing it on various machines.  The AMD
> machines with Radeon Graphics are perfectly happy with it but my
> 10-year-old Acer Laptop [intel graphics] freezes 3.6 seconds into the
> boot process.
>
> The last message before it stops is
> fb0: switching to i915 from EFI VGA
>
> The obvious workaround is to boot the previous kernel and that works
> just fine.
>
> I see others have had the problem over the last year, but theirs appear
> to be with brand new Intel Graphics systems and that does not describe
> my laptop.
> https://superuser.com/questions/1761864/leap-15-4-boot-hangs-on-fbo-switching-to-i915-from-efi-vga
> is an example.

A new kernel was provided yesterday evening.
My Intel-Graphics machine is happy with it.

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 by: Don Spam's Reck - Tue, 4 Apr 2023 15:55 UTC

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> kernel-default-5.14.21-150400.24.49.3.x86_64 came out a day or so ago
> [leap 15.4] and I have been installing it on various machines.  The AMD
> machines with Radeon Graphics are perfectly happy with it but my
> 10-year-old Acer Laptop [intel graphics] freezes 3.6 seconds into the
> boot process.
>
> The last message before it stops is
> fb0: switching to i915 from EFI VGA
>
> The obvious workaround is to boot the previous kernel and that works
> just fine.
>
> I see others have had the problem over the last year, but theirs appear
> to be with brand new Intel Graphics systems and that does not describe
> my laptop.
> https://superuser.com/questions/1761864/leap-15-4-boot-hangs-on-fbo-switching-to-i915-from-efi-vga
> is an example.

One last comment on this subject.
I have a system where /boot is only large enough for two kernels
(actually, 3 would fit easily but the update process refuses to try) so
I have to remove the older kernel once I can see that the newer one is
working fine. Normally I go there and remove it using yast -> software
-> software management -> versions.

Since the previous installed kernel had been retracted, I decided to ssh
into the machine and mark the retracted kernel with "-" to uninstall it.
Of course it uninstalled both the old broken-with-intel-graphics kernel
along with the new one. Luckily everything I needed was in memory and I
could simply install the three current "kernel-default*" packages again.

We live and learn.

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Tue, 4 Apr 2023 22:25 UTC

On 2023-04-04 17:55, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

> One last comment on this subject.
> I have a system where /boot is only large enough for two kernels
> (actually, 3 would fit easily but the update process refuses to try) so
> I have to remove the older kernel once I can see that the newer one is
> working fine.  Normally I go there and remove it using yast -> software
> -> software management -> versions.

You could try to remove "plymouth" package, it is big and goes into
initrd. However, boot will be in text mode.

It might be enough bytes to make the 3 kernels fit.

> Since the previous installed kernel had been retracted, I decided to ssh
> into the machine and mark the retracted kernel with "-" to uninstall it.
> Of course it uninstalled both the old broken-with-intel-graphics kernel
> along with the new one.  Luckily everything I needed was in memory and I
> could simply install the three current "kernel-default*" packages again.
>
> We live and learn.

kernel is a multiversion package. If you tick the top one, it deletes
them all. You have to do it in the "version" tab in yast.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Don Spam's Reck - Wed, 5 Apr 2023 11:05 UTC

Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2023-04-04 17:55, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>
>> One last comment on this subject.
>> I have a system where /boot is only large enough for two kernels
>> (actually, 3 would fit easily but the update process refuses to try)
>> so I have to remove the older kernel once I can see that the newer one
>> is working fine.  Normally I go there and remove it using yast ->
>> software -> software management -> versions.
>
> You could try to remove "plymouth" package, it is big and goes into
> initrd. However, boot will be in text mode.
>
> It might be enough bytes to make the 3 kernels fit.
>

You made that suggestion several months ago and I tried it, it did not
help. There is easily enough room in /boot for three kernels, it is the
update process being anal. Two kernels take around 50% of /boot so four
kernels would probably not work.

>
>> Since the previous installed kernel had been retracted, I decided to
>> ssh into the machine and mark the retracted kernel with "-" to
>> uninstall it.
>> Of course it uninstalled both the old broken-with-intel-graphics
>> kernel along with the new one.  Luckily everything I needed was in
>> memory and I could simply install the three current "kernel-default*"
>> packages again.
>>
>> We live and learn.
>
> kernel is a multiversion package. If you tick the top one, it deletes
> them all. You have to do it in the "version" tab in yast.
>

Yes, I saw that. I had thought I was just removing the Retracted
Installed Packages but when it listed the six packages it had removed it
was obvious that I had no kernel left.
Using the Version tab is what I normally do.

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 by: Carlos E.R. - Wed, 5 Apr 2023 11:43 UTC

On 2023-04-05 13:05, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2023-04-04 17:55, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>>
>>> One last comment on this subject.
>>> I have a system where /boot is only large enough for two kernels
>>> (actually, 3 would fit easily but the update process refuses to try)
>>> so I have to remove the older kernel once I can see that the newer
>>> one is working fine.  Normally I go there and remove it using yast ->
>>> software -> software management -> versions.
>>
>> You could try to remove "plymouth" package, it is big and goes into
>> initrd. However, boot will be in text mode.
>>
>> It might be enough bytes to make the 3 kernels fit.
>>
>
> You made that suggestion several months ago and I tried it, it did not
> help.  There is easily enough room in /boot for three kernels, it is the
> update process being anal.  Two kernels take around 50% of /boot so four
> kernels would probably not work.

Maybe temporary files while initrd archives are created.

>>> Since the previous installed kernel had been retracted, I decided to
>>> ssh into the machine and mark the retracted kernel with "-" to
>>> uninstall it.
>>> Of course it uninstalled both the old broken-with-intel-graphics
>>> kernel along with the new one.  Luckily everything I needed was in
>>> memory and I could simply install the three current "kernel-default*"
>>> packages again.
>>>
>>> We live and learn.
>>
>> kernel is a multiversion package. If you tick the top one, it deletes
>> them all. You have to do it in the "version" tab in yast.
>>
>
> Yes, I saw that.  I had thought I was just removing the Retracted
> Installed Packages but when it listed the six packages it had removed it
> was obvious that I had no kernel left.
> Using the Version tab is what I normally do.

Lucky you noticed before rebooting ;-)

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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