Hi all,

We have two smartphones, a Samsung S10 and a Samsung A53. On both phones
I installed a SSH server. ón my pc (Windows 10 Pro) I have an FTP
client, CuteFTP 9.3. With this client I can make a connection with the
A53 phone, after starting up the SSH server. Very easy!
However, with the S10 phone it won't work. The same SSH server, a
different user name and password. If I try to make a connection, there
is an error.
I wrote it in usenet and got a lot of answers.
Thanks you all very much.

Now I'm almost there!

On the S10 phone I removed the SSH server and installed a FTP server.
And this works, apart from the fact that there is a problem with the
directory where the photo's are.

I installed Total Commander File Explorer on the phone and found out
where the photo's are:

/storage/emulated/0/DCIM/Camera

I programmed this in my FTP client on the PC, but it comes with an error:

STATUS:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] This site supports LANG.
COMMAND:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] OPTS UTF8 on
[07/02/2024 16:45:47] 200 Command OPTS okay.
STATUS:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] This site can resume broken downloads.
COMMAND:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] MODE Z
[07/02/2024 16:45:47] 200 Command MODE okay.
COMMAND:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] REST 0
[07/02/2024 16:45:47] 350 Restarting at 0. Send STORE or
RETRIEVE to initiate transfer.
COMMAND:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] CWD /storage/emulated/0/DCIM/Camera
[07/02/2024 16:45:47] 550 No such directory.
ERROR:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] Requested action not taken (e.g.,
file or directory not found, no access).

What may be wrong?

With regards,

Fokke Nauta

On 09.02.2024 10:23, Fokke Nauta wrote:

> On the S10 phone I removed the SSH server and installed a FTP server.
> And this works, apart from the fact that there is a problem with the
> directory where the photo's are.

I use "Primitive FTPd" as an FTP server and there was a similar
problem:

https://github.com/wolpi/prim-ftpd

|| To be able to allow 'All files access' an app must declare
|| android.permission.MANAGE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE in it's manifest file.
|| Google has a policy wether an app is allowed to declare that
|| permission and be published on Google Play. As you can see below
|| this app is considered as not compliant.
||
|| How can you use this server on your device to access your files?
||
|| Install from f-droid
|| Download from GitHub releases

I therefore installed the version from f-droid and that
works without any problem.

On 09/02/2024 12:35, Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
> On 09.02.2024 10:23, Fokke Nauta wrote:
>
>> On the S10 phone I removed the SSH server and installed a FTP server.
>> And this works, apart from the fact that there is a problem with the
>> directory where the photo's are.
>
> I use "Primitive FTPd" as an FTP server and there was a similar
> problem:
>
> https://github.com/wolpi/prim-ftpd
>
> || To be able to allow 'All files access' an app must declare
> || android.permission.MANAGE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE in it's manifest file.
> || Google has a policy wether an app is allowed to declare that
> || permission and be published on Google Play. As you can see below
> || this app is considered as not compliant.
> ||
> || How can you use this server on your device to access your files?
> ||
> ||     Install from f-droid
> ||     Download from GitHub releases
>
> I therefore installed the version from f-droid and that
> works without any problem.

Thanks, but how do I dowwnload the f-droid server from Githup? I went
there but saw no solution.

Fokke

Fokke Nauta wrote:

> Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
>
>> https://github.com/wolpi/prim-ftpd
>
> how do I dowwnload the f-droid server from Githup?

<https://github.com/wolpi/prim-ftpd/releases/download/prim-ftpd-7.0/primitiveFTPd-7.0.apk>

On 09/02/2024 13:40, Andy Burns wrote:
> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>
>> Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
>>
>>> https://github.com/wolpi/prim-ftpd
>>
>> how do I dowwnload the f-droid server from Githup?
>
> <https://github.com/wolpi/prim-ftpd/releases/download/prim-ftpd-7.0/primitiveFTPd-7.0.apk>
>

Thanks very much. I downloaded it and will install it on the phone.

Fokke

On 09/02/2024 13:40, Andy Burns wrote:
> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>
>> Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
>>
>>> https://github.com/wolpi/prim-ftpd
>>
>> how do I dowwnload the f-droid server from Githup?
>
> <https://github.com/wolpi/prim-ftpd/releases/download/prim-ftpd-7.0/primitiveFTPd-7.0.apk>
>

When I try to install it on the phone, I get this message (in Dutch,
translated into English):

To install.
Function not supported.
This feature has been removed from the Play Store version of Total
Commander at Google's request.
Install a third party installer app from us or a third party.

Fokke

On 09.02.2024 13:12, Fokke Nauta wrote:

>> I therefore installed the version from f-droid and that
>> works without any problem.
>
> Thanks, but how do I dowwnload the f-droid server from Githup? I went
> there but saw no solution.

You don't need to install fdroid, you can directly
install primitive ftpd. But if you want to get
automatic updates for primitive ftp, fdroid is
needed. Fdroid is just an alternative app store
for playstore from Google and primitive ftpd
is an app in this app store. An the source code
for this app you will find on Github.

https://f-droid.org/de/packages/org.primftpd/

Fokke Nauta wrote:

> When I try to install it on the phone, I get this message (in Dutch,
> translated into English):
>
> To install.
> Function not supported.
> This feature has been removed from the Play Store version of Total
> Commander at Google's request.
> Install a third party installer app from us or a third party.

On my phone, to install an app that's not from the Google Play store, I
have to turn on "install from other sources" somewhere in
settings/apps/special access/install unknown apps ...

non-google phones may vary slightly.#

Friday night Fuhrer on www.goyimtv.com

On Feb 9, 2024 at 4:23:45 AM EST, "Fokke Nauta" <usenet@solfon.nl> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We have two smartphones, a Samsung S10 and a Samsung A53. On both phones
> I installed a SSH server. ón my pc (Windows 10 Pro) I have an FTP
> client, CuteFTP 9.3. With this client I can make a connection with the
> A53 phone, after starting up the SSH server. Very easy!
> However, with the S10 phone it won't work. The same SSH server, a
> different user name and password. If I try to make a connection, there
> is an error.
> I wrote it in usenet and got a lot of answers.
> Thanks you all very much.
>
> Now I'm almost there!
>
> On the S10 phone I removed the SSH server and installed a FTP server.
> And this works, apart from the fact that there is a problem with the
> directory where the photo's are.
>
> I installed Total Commander File Explorer on the phone and found out
> where the photo's are:
>
> /storage/emulated/0/DCIM/Camera
>
> I programmed this in my FTP client on the PC, but it comes with an error:
>
> STATUS:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] This site supports LANG.
> COMMAND:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] OPTS UTF8 on
> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] 200 Command OPTS okay.
> STATUS:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] This site can resume broken downloads.
> COMMAND:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] MODE Z
> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] 200 Command MODE okay.
> COMMAND:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] REST 0
> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] 350 Restarting at 0. Send STORE or
> RETRIEVE to initiate transfer.
> COMMAND:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] CWD /storage/emulated/0/DCIM/Camera
> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] 550 No such directory.
> ERROR:> [07/02/2024 16:45:47] Requested action not taken (e.g.,
> file or directory not found, no access).
>
> What may be wrong?
>
> With regards,
>
> Fokke Nauta

Fokke Nauta wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We have two smartphones, a Samsung S10 and a Samsung A53. On both
> phones I installed a SSH server. �n my pc (Windows 10 Pro) I have an
> FTP client, CuteFTP 9.3. With this client I can make a connection with the
> A53 phone, after starting up the SSH server. Very easy!
> However, with the S10 phone it won't work. The same SSH server, a
> different user name and password. If I try to make a connection, there
> is an error.
> I wrote it in usenet and got a lot of answers.
> Thanks you all very much.

I am little confused by what you are doing but I am assuming you are trying
to copy photographs from one phone to another. I would recommend if you
have not done so searching for Samsung Smart Switch and installing it. It
will let you put the photograph files you want copy on your computer
harddisk. Then connect the phone you want to place the files on to your
computer through its USB cable. The phone will show up in File Explorer or
Free Commander as Samsung S10 or A53 depending on which phone you connected.
Then just copy the files from your computer to the DCIM folder on the
receiving phone. I have done this before to add photographs to other
phones.
--
<Bill>

Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska

On 10/02/2024 00:22, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We have two smartphones, a Samsung S10 and a Samsung A53. On both
>> phones I installed a SSH server. ón my pc (Windows 10 Pro) I have an
>> FTP client, CuteFTP 9.3. With this client I can make a connection with the
>> A53 phone, after starting up the SSH server. Very easy!
>> However, with the S10 phone it won't work. The same SSH server, a
>> different user name and password. If I try to make a connection, there
>> is an error.
>> I wrote it in usenet and got a lot of answers.
>> Thanks you all very much.
>
> I am little confused by what you are doing but I am assuming you are trying
> to copy photographs from one phone to another. I would recommend if you
> have not done so searching for Samsung Smart Switch and installing it. It
> will let you put the photograph files you want copy on your computer
> harddisk. Then connect the phone you want to place the files on to your
> computer through its USB cable. The phone will show up in File Explorer or
> Free Commander as Samsung S10 or A53 depending on which phone you connected.
> Then just copy the files from your computer to the DCIM folder on the
> receiving phone. I have done this before to add photographs to other
> phones.

No, I just want to copy photo's from the phone to my pc.

Fokke

Fokke Nauta wrote:
> On 10/02/2024 00:22, Bill Bradshaw wrote:
>> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> We have two smartphones, a Samsung S10 and a Samsung A53. On both
>>> phones I installed a SSH server. �n my pc (Windows 10 Pro) I have an
>>> FTP client, CuteFTP 9.3. With this client I can make a connection
>>> with the A53 phone, after starting up the SSH server. Very easy!
>>> However, with the S10 phone it won't work. The same SSH server, a
>>> different user name and password. If I try to make a connection,
>>> there is an error.
>>> I wrote it in usenet and got a lot of answers.
>>> Thanks you all very much.
>>
>> I am little confused by what you are doing but I am assuming you are
>> trying to copy photographs from one phone to another. I would
>> recommend if you have not done so searching for Samsung Smart Switch
>> and installing it. It will let you put the photograph files you
>> want copy on your computer harddisk. Then connect the phone you
>> want to place the files on to your computer through its USB cable. The
>> phone will show up in File Explorer or Free Commander as Samsung
>> S10 or A53 depending on which phone you connected. Then just copy
>> the files from your computer to the DCIM folder on the receiving
>> phone. I have done this before to add photographs to other phones.
>
> No, I just want to copy photo's from the phone to my pc.
>
> Fokke

It appears you are able to see the photographs on the phone from your
computer but could not copy them to your computer. I can not copy to my "C"
partition because Windows does like that (whom knows why - Paul?). I have
my computer partitioned and I can copy to one of the other partitions. You
should try the Samsung Smart Switch program because it makes backups of the
phone which can also be restored if there is a problem. The Smart Switch
program may copy the files you want to the "C" partition and then you can
copy or move them to the location you want. When I do this I get questions
whether I want to allow access on both the phone and computer.

<Bill>

On 2024-02-09 15:31, Fokke Nauta wrote:
> On 09/02/2024 13:40, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Fokke Nauta wrote:
>>
>>> Herbert Kleebauer wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://github.com/wolpi/prim-ftpd
>>>
>>> how do I dowwnload the f-droid server from Githup?
>>
>> <https://github.com/wolpi/prim-ftpd/releases/download/prim-ftpd-7.0/primitiveFTPd-7.0.apk>
>>
>
> When I try to install it on the phone, I get this message (in Dutch,
> translated into English):
>
> To install.
> Function not supported.
> This feature has been removed from the Play Store version of Total
> Commander at Google's request.
> Install a third party installer app from us or a third party.

You can install first the f-droid app to install f-droid packages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Droid

F-Droid is an app store and software repository for Android, serving a
similar function to the Google Play store. The main repository, hosted
by the project, contains only free and open source apps. Applications
can be browsed, downloaded and installed from the F-Droid website or
client app without the need to register for an account. "Anti-features"
such as advertising, user tracking, or dependence on non-free software
are flagged in app descriptions.[5]

The website also offers the source code of applications it hosts, as
well as the software running the F-Droid server, allowing anyone to set
up their own app repository.[6][7][8]

*Client application*

F-Droid is not available on the Google Play Store. To install the
F-Droid client, the user has to allow installation from "Unknown
sources" in Android settings[45] and retrieve the F-Droid Android
application package (.apk file) from the official site.

The client was designed to be resilient against surveillance,
censorship, and unreliable Internet connections. To promote anonymity,
it supports HTTP proxies and repositories hosted on Tor onion services.
Client devices can function as impromptu "app stores", distributing
downloaded apps to other devices over local Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and
Android Beam.[46][47] The F-Droid client app automatically offers
updates for installed F-Droid apps; when the F-Droid Privileged
Extension is installed, updates can also be installed by the app itself
in the background.[48] However, automatic updates are not turned on by
default.[49] The extension requires the device to have root access, or
to be able to flash a zip file.[50]

→ Website https://f-droid.org/

There is a dot-code there to initiate the installation of the f-droid app.

Getting Started

Get F-Droid How to get started using F-Droid.

→ https://f-droid.org/en/docs/Get_F-Droid/

--
Cheers, Carlos.

I see you have posted the same post to at least two groups. Please
don't, instead include both groups in the same post.

Posting my previous answer on android group also to windows-10 group.

On 2024-02-09 10:23, Fokke Nauta wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> We have two smartphones, a Samsung S10 and a Samsung A53. On both phones
> I installed a SSH server. ón my pc (Windows 10 Pro) I have an FTP
> client, CuteFTP 9.3. With this client I can make a connection with the
> A53 phone, after starting up the SSH server. Very easy!
> However, with the S10 phone it won't work. The same SSH server, a
> different user name and password. If I try to make a connection, there
> is an error.
> I wrote it in usenet and got a lot of answers.
> Thanks you all very much.

Notice that you are installing an ssh server and connecting with an ftp
client. You are asking to connect with different protocols.

Notice that in Linux parlance, "sftp" refers in fact to SSH protocol
used to transfer files, not to the FTP protocol.

sftp — OpenSSH secure file transfer

In the Linux world, running an ssh server to transfer files is often
done out of the box. So, it would be interesting to do it in Android too.

So, when you use a clever ftp client to connect to an ssh server to
transfer files, you must make sure that you are telling the client to in
fact use ssh, not ftp.

>
> Now I'm almost there!
>
> On the S10 phone I removed the SSH server and installed a FTP server.
> And this works, apart from the fact that there is a problem with the
> directory where the photo's are.
>
> I installed Total Commander File Explorer on the phone and found out
> where the photo's are:
>
> /storage/emulated/0/DCIM/Camera
>
> I programmed this in my FTP client on the PC, but it comes with an error:
>
> STATUS:>      [07/02/2024 16:45:47] This site supports LANG.
> COMMAND:>    [07/02/2024 16:45:47] OPTS UTF8 on
>         [07/02/2024 16:45:47] 200 Command OPTS okay.
> STATUS:>      [07/02/2024 16:45:47] This site can resume broken downloads.
> COMMAND:>    [07/02/2024 16:45:47] MODE Z
>         [07/02/2024 16:45:47] 200 Command MODE okay.
> COMMAND:>    [07/02/2024 16:45:47] REST 0
>         [07/02/2024 16:45:47] 350 Restarting at 0. Send STORE or
> RETRIEVE to initiate transfer.
> COMMAND:>    [07/02/2024 16:45:47] CWD /storage/emulated/0/DCIM/Camera
>         [07/02/2024 16:45:47] 550 No such directory.
> ERROR:>       [07/02/2024 16:45:47] Requested action not taken (e.g.,
> file or directory not found, no access).
>
> What may be wrong?
>
> With regards,
>
> Fokke Nauta

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Carlos E.R. wrote on Sat, 10 Feb 2024 19:15:51 +0100 :

>> This feature has been removed from the Play Store version of Total
>> Commander at Google's request.
>> Install a third party installer app from us or a third party.
>
> You can install first the f-droid app to install f-droid packages.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-Droid

I've said #1 many times, so it's bothersome to have to repeat it.
But it's important for people to realize the status of that app.

#1.
The F-Droid app is deprecated. Not the site. But the Android app.
I've spoken to the F-Droid developers themselves and it's well
documented on XDA so the main takeaway is do not use the F-Droid app.

Use the F-Droid Basic app instead.
<https://f-droid.org/packages/org.fdroid.basic/>

Note: It's kind of like Truecrypt versus Veracrypt, where there's
nothing known to be wrong but that the developers have abandoned it.

#2.
It's quite common for the Google Play Store version of a great app
to be restricted in ways that the F-Droid repository app is not.

Examples abound such as OSMAnd+, NetGuard, SimpleMobileTools pro, etc.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard>
<https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/releases>

<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand.plus>
<https://f-droid.org/en/packages/net.osmand.plus/>

<https://play.google.com/store/search?q=simple%20mobile%20tools%20pro&c=apps>
<https://search.f-droid.org/?q=simplemobiletools>

#3.
My suggestion is to never use either app because it's trivial to
just download the desired F-Droid-hosted APK from your PC which
automatically puts it onto your Android phone (in so many ways
it's not funny so I won't delve into any of them in this post).

Suffice to say that the installation itself on Android automatically
saves every installer APK onto your Windows PC app archive.

#4.
My suggestion is to never use the Google Play Store client to
obtain apps from the Google Play Store, but to use a FOSS client.
You get the exact same app (literally, because it is the same app).
But with a much better GUI. These Google Play Store clients abound.

The Google Play Store client that I use is this one.
<https://gitlab.com/AuroraOSS/AuroraStore/-/releases>

#5.
My suggestion is to COMBINE two GUIs (whether or not you use my
previous suggestion), to add the Google Play Store search GUI
which is so fantastic that I'd put it in the top five best apps.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=scadica.aq>

With that Google Play Store repository search GUI (based on
Github open source code) you can search for ANYTHING (and I
mean anything). None of which the Google Play Store clients do.

Bill Bradshaw wrote on Sat, 10 Feb 2024 08:37:28 -0900 :

> It appears you are able to see the photographs on the phone from your
> computer but could not copy them to your computer. I can not copy to my "C"
> partition because Windows does like that (whom knows why - Paul?). I have
> my computer partitioned and I can copy to one of the other partitions. You
> should try the Samsung Smart Switch program because it makes backups of the
> phone which can also be restored if there is a problem. The Smart Switch
> program may copy the files you want to the "C" partition and then you can
> copy or move them to the location you want. When I do this I get questions
> whether I want to allow access on both the phone and computer.

Why not just mount the Android phone as a drive letter over Wi-Fi on a PC?
C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.0.whatever@port\MountPoint /USER:user1 mypasswd

I do it every day.

That way scripts running on the PC have a consistent drive letter to work
with for every Android phone in the home (phone 1 = Z:, phone 2 = Y:, etc).

You can also do it with FTPUse but I prefer WebDAV for the reliability
but as far as I can tell, the main difference between them is the port.

Andrew wrote:
> Bill Bradshaw wrote on Sat, 10 Feb 2024 08:37:28 -0900 :
>
>> It appears you are able to see the photographs on the phone from your
>> computer but could not copy them to your computer. I can not copy
>> to my "C" partition because Windows does like that (whom knows why -
>> Paul?). I have my computer partitioned and I can copy to one of the
>> other partitions. You should try the Samsung Smart Switch program
>> because it makes backups of the phone which can also be restored if
>> there is a problem. The Smart Switch program may copy the files you
>> want to the "C" partition and then you can copy or move them to the
>> location you want. When I do this I get questions whether I want to
>> allow access on both the phone and computer.
>
> Why not just mount the Android phone as a drive letter over Wi-Fi on
> a PC? C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.0.whatever@port\MountPoint
> /USER:user1 mypasswd
>
> I do it every day.
>
> That way scripts running on the PC have a consistent drive letter to
> work with for every Android phone in the home (phone 1 = Z:, phone 2
> = Y:, etc).
>
> You can also do it with FTPUse but I prefer WebDAV for the reliability
> but as far as I can tell, the main difference between them is the
> port.

All I ever do is connect the Samsung A12 to a USB and then open up file
manager and go to Samsung direstory DCIM and copy them to my computer. The
difference is I partition and all my data and photographs are on my E:
partition so I never had to copy to C.

Another answer might be to try to copy the files to a flash drive and then
see if he can copy from the flash drive to where he wants the photographs.
I have not tried this because I have never had any complications copying
files from my phone to my computer and also photographs I took with my
camera that are on my computer to the phone. What he wants to do can be
performed without the complication of FTP.

<Bill>

Bill Bradshaw wrote on Sat, 10 Feb 2024 12:28:02 -0900 :

>> You can also do it with FTPUse but I prefer WebDAV for the reliability
>> but as far as I can tell, the main difference between them is the
>> port.
>
> All I ever do is connect the Samsung A12 to a USB and then open up file
> manager and go to Samsung direstory DCIM and copy them to my computer.

Yup. That's what almost everyone does. And what they've always done.
Me too, if that's what I want to do. Nothing wrong with USB file transfer.

> The difference is I partition and all my data and photographs are
> on my E: partition so I never had to copy to C.

A partition isn't the same thing as a drive, but I get what you mean.
I agree, the drive letter is completely under your personal control.

The reason the (arbitrary) drive letter matters to me is I have
scripts which copy files and those scripts expect the same drive letter.

Although, I find I have to use two WebDAV servers though to see the entire
(non-rooted) Android phone for read/write (one for the external sdcard).

So my Android phone is actually mounted on Windows as _two_ drive letters.
No big deal though, as there are many free SMB/CIFs, WebDAV & FTP servers.
> Another answer might be to try to copy the files to a flash drive and then
> see if he can copy from the flash drive to where he wants the photographs.

There are so many good ways to copy between Android & Windows, that it's
not funny. I can probably come up with a dozen ways, all of which work.

While "FTP" & "SSH" might be some of those ways, they'd be last on my list.

> I have not tried this because I have never had any complications copying
> files from my phone to my computer and also photographs I took with my
> camera that are on my computer to the phone. What he wants to do can be
> performed without the complication of FTP.

Agree.
I have no idea why he's doing what he's doing but he must have a reason.

On 10.02.2024 22:28, Bill Bradshaw wrote:

> All I ever do is connect the Samsung A12 to a USB and then open up file
> manager and go to Samsung direstory DCIM and copy them to my computer.

> camera that are on my computer to the phone. What he wants to do can be
> performed without the complication of FTP.

The complicated thing is not the ftp server but the connection
with an USB cable. If you want to access the internet, you also
use WLAN and don't connect an ethernet cable.

If I start the app "primitive ftpd" on my tablet, it displays
the used IP address (for example 192.168.178.97) and the used
port (default: 12345).

On the laptop I start Windows Explorer (not IE) and enter
in the address line: ftp://192.168.178.97:12345/

If you didn't enable anonymous ftp, you also have to
specify username and password:

ftp://user:password@192.168.178.97:12345/

If you want to copy the pictures, navigate to:

ftp://192.168.178.97:12345/DCIM/Camera/

and drag and drop the pictures to a local folder.

The Windows Explorer doesn't support sftp, but security
shouldn't be a problem in a private network.

On 2/10/2024 12:37 PM, Bill Bradshaw wrote:

> It appears you are able to see the photographs on the phone from your
> computer but could not copy them to your computer. I can not copy to my "C"
> partition because Windows does like that (whom knows why - Paul?). I have
> my computer partitioned and I can copy to one of the other partitions. You
> should try the Samsung Smart Switch program because it makes backups of the
> phone which can also be restored if there is a problem. The Smart Switch
> program may copy the files you want to the "C" partition and then you can
> copy or move them to the location you want. When I do this I get questions
> whether I want to allow access on both the phone and computer.
>
> <Bill>

The root level of some partitions, is "protected" against copying
like that.

C:\somefile.ext # Denied

C:\NewFolderName\somefile.ext # Allowed

The C: partition has historically had sensitive files in
the root, such as boot.ini, NTLDR, pagefile.sys and so on.
There may be some concern about "just blowing away" some
file while fooling around.

I run into this occasionally while doing Macrium Backups,
and I'm getting a denial on my attempt to start the MRIMG somewhere.
Locating a folder for the job, I'm more likely to succeed.

Paul

On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 12:28:02 -0900, "Bill Bradshaw" <bradshaw@gci.net> wrote:

>All I ever do is connect the Samsung A12 to a USB and then open up file
>manager and go to Samsung direstory DCIM and copy them to my computer.

That's what I do, as well, except that I move the photos rather than copy them.
I don't think there's a faster or easier solution. Even my tech-challenged BIL
can manage it.

Herbert Kleebauer wrote on Sun, 11 Feb 2024 00:23:07 +0100 :

> If I start the app "primitive ftpd" on my tablet, it displays
> the used IP address (for example 192.168.178.97) and the used
> port (default: 12345).

In addition to "mounting" as a drive letter (which I do with WebDAV),
there is also "mapping" Android over FPT as a drive letter.
https://www.ferrobackup.com/map-ftp-as-disk.html

Others like Paul would know more than I do because there is a difference
between mapping a "network drive" and mounting as a "drive letter".
https://www.thewindowsclub.com/map-an-ftp-drive-windows
http://www.turbo-ftp.com/docs/Map_FTP_server_as_a_Local_Disk_Drive_on_Windows/
https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/map-ftp-server-as-local-disk-with-ftpuse/
https://www.ryadel.com/en/map-ftp-server-folder-windows-drive-letter-using-ftpuse/
https://www.wintips.org/map-ftp-to-local-drive-letter-windows/

Permanent drive letters are particularly nice when scripts are written
although I think it was you (or maybe someone else?) who once wrote a
script that figures out the drive letter automatically of a USB stick
(which I had used for years).

Back to mounting versus mapping, I'm not sure the difference but others
who know more than I do about Windows can help explain which is what.
https://cloudmounter.net/mount-webdav-as-local-drive/
https://powerfolder.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PF/pages/301876/Mounting+folders+via+WebDAV
https://www.airlivedrive.com/en/2019/11/04/how-to-conect-a-webdav-server-as-a-windows-drive/
https://serverfault.com/questions/690231/map-network-drive-to-a-webdav-server-via-powershell

Regarind "mapping" vs "mounting" a drive, there are also cloud-mounting
solutions, but I don't use them, so again, others will know more than I do.
https://www.netdrive.net/

On 10/02/2024 21:16, Andrew wrote:
> Bill Bradshaw wrote on Sat, 10 Feb 2024 08:37:28 -0900 :
>
>> It appears you are able to see the photographs on the phone from your
>> computer but could not copy them to your computer. I can not copy to my "C"
>> partition because Windows does like that (whom knows why - Paul?). I have
>> my computer partitioned and I can copy to one of the other partitions. You
>> should try the Samsung Smart Switch program because it makes backups of the
>> phone which can also be restored if there is a problem. The Smart Switch
>> program may copy the files you want to the "C" partition and then you can
>> copy or move them to the location you want. When I do this I get questions
>> whether I want to allow access on both the phone and computer.
>
> Why not just mount the Android phone as a drive letter over Wi-Fi on a PC?
> C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.0.whatever@port\MountPoint /USER:user1 mypasswd

Good idea. Can you give me an example of how to do that?

Net use Z: \\192.168.1.160 (which port?) \Mountpoint /USER:slauf password
Should that work?

> I do it every day.
>
> That way scripts running on the PC have a consistent drive letter to work
> with for every Android phone in the home (phone 1 = Z:, phone 2 = Y:, etc).
>
> You can also do it with FTPUse but I prefer WebDAV for the reliability
> but as far as I can tell, the main difference between them is the port.

Fokke Nauta wrote on Sun, 11 Feb 2024 10:21:33 +0100 :

> Good idea. Can you give me an example of how to do that?

It's not only a "good idea" but it's one of the "best ideas" on
Windows to *mount* your Android phone as a drive letter over Wi-Fi.

That way you can save DIRECTLY to Android (or to Windows).
You can copy DIRECTLY to Android (or to Windows).

It has been described and discussed a thousand times already
on both the Android and Windows newsgroups, so I'll just summarize.

There are very few things you can do that have no cons, only pros.
This is one of them as I can't think of a single thing bad about it.

Here's what I'd recommend you do...
1. Install any free WebDAV server on Android, for example one of these.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zq.webdav.app_free
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.theolivetree.webdavserver
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=slowscript.httpfileserver
2. When you set it up, that determines the Windows "Net Use" arguments
For example, the default root is always "DavWWWRoot".
The default port is usually "8080".
There is no default user, so you can set that up to anything.
It doesn't have to be the user/password on Windows.
The IP address is whatever the phone's IP address is.
Generally if you do this every day, then you want it to be static.
3. Here's an example command assuming those arguments were set above.
net use Z: \\192.168.1.160@8080\DavWWWRoot
net use Z: \\192.168.1.160@8080\DavWWWRoot /USER:fake paswd
net use Z: \\192.168.1.160@8080\DavWWWRoot /USER:fake paswd /persistent
> Net use Z: \\192.168.1.160 (which port?) \Mountpoint /USER:slauf password
> Should that work?

a. The port is set up when you set up the free WebDAV server
b. The username & password are optional
c. But if that's what you set them up as, then that will work

There are lots of setup guides for doing this since WebDAV is the best
way (IMHO) to set up Android to be permanently mounted on Windows as a
drive letter (where the /persistent controls that permanence).
https://www.google.com/search?q=mount+webdav+drive+letter+windows

Here are some that popped up from that search.
https://powerfolder.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/PF/pages/301876/Mounting+folders+via+WebDAV
https://www.airlivedrive.com/en/2019/11/04/how-to-conect-a-webdav-server-as-a-windows-drive/
https://serverfault.com/questions/690231/map-network-drive-to-a-webdav-server-via-powershell

Andrew wrote:

> Why not just mount the Android phone as a drive letter over Wi-Fi on a PC?
> C:\> net use Z: \\192.168.0.whatever@port\MountPoint /USER:user1 mypasswd

You "just" have to install an SMB server first, of course ...