In article <ur20r6$2fd0m$1@dont-email.me>, Graham J wrote...
>
> Philip Herlihy wrote:
> > In article <ur0dje$bknl$1@solani.org>, Nick Cine wrote...
> >>
> >> I use Thunderbird on Windows 10 and Google GMail which is full.
> >>
> >> I want to do the least amount of thinking possible so I do not
> >> want to go through thousands of emails to delete those no longer
> >> needed - but I need to clear out the IMAP folders on Google servers.
> >> Without deleting.
> >>
> >
> > If you're married to "Without deleting" you have some headaches ahead. But
> > I've found that if you sort your inbox by Sender (just click the header), it's
> > astonishing how quickly you can discard scores at a time. You also don't have
> > that constant mental "context change" every time you move to the next email.
> > Try it! It's deeply satisfying!
> >
>
> The mistake is to use IMAP.
>
> If you use POP with the default configuration everything is removed from
> the server as soon as it has been transferred to your PC. So no more
> problems with "Mailbox Full" messages. Yes, this is even a problem for
> those who have 50GByte mailboxes!
>
> In your mail client you can automatically archive old stuff from your
> Inbox to a "not_wanted_anymore" folder where you can keep it - if you
> must - until your PC fills up.

The disadvantage of POP is that (even if your ISP honours your configured
request to purge downloaded emails) then you can only access them henceforth on
the one machine you've downloaded them to. For as long as it's working...

--

Phil, London

In article <ur2eaa$2i0k4$1@dont-email.me>, sticks wrote...
>
> On 2/19/2024 10:04 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
> > sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
> >

This isn't any kind of attack, but I'm repeatedly jolted and saddened by your
signature.

I'm not against Israel. I'm not against Palestine. But I feel slogans for
either side - as though either side in this terrible conflict has the moral
high-ground - just make these terrible times worse. I stand with the ordinary
people on both sides who have been exposed to conflict, brutality and horror by
the extremist factions on both sides. Let it stop. Read this:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/oct/27/tragedy-israel-palestine-
conflict-horror

There. I've said how I feel, and I won't need to comment on this again. I
hope you understand. Let there be peace (here too!).

--

Phil, London

On 2/20/24 09:51 AM, sticks wrote:
> My personal stuff is quite different.  I keep almost nothing.  Once things get addressed and
> resolved, they get trashed.
+1 I do pull out a few items like login info, new account info etc.
--
Linux Mint 21.3 Cinnamon 6.0.4
Al

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 01:47:51 -0500, Paul wrote:

> This is why they use ZIP for Takeout, on the expectation
> it won't be a puzzle.

Thank you for that advice. The zip file isn't the problem.
It's the mbox format with Thunderbird that I don't understand.

Following Mr. Vanguard's links, I asked for a Google takeout.
I received an email today saying "Your Google data is ready to download".
"We've finished creating a copy of the Google data you requested on
February 20, 2024. You can download your files until February 27, 2024.
Your download will contain data from 54 products."

<https://accounts.google.com/AccountChooser?continue=https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout/download?numbers&Email=email@gmail.com
Download data
Since this export is too big for a single file,
we've split it into 2 packages.
Part 1 of 2 (90 MB)
Part 2 of 2 (15.25 GB)

It will take a while but I'm downloading it now.
I wanted this to be as simple as it should be.

What would be what I want and which many might want is
to point a brand new portable copy of Thunderbird to the
Google takeout mailbox and just be able to (re)read that
email offline.

Is that possible with Thunderbird & a Google Takeout
to read the mail offline with a separate TB instance?

Philip Herlihy wrote:

> I'm not against Israel. I'm not against Palestine. But I feel slogans for
> either side - as though either side in this terrible conflict has the moral
> high-ground - just make these terrible times worse.

Israel was attacked by Hamas terrorists who WANTED exactly what they're
getting as they're funded, trained & directed by Iran who is who wanted it.

Meanwhile, the surrounding supposedly supportive countries (all of them,
but Egypt in particular) also wants there to never be a solution to the
problem of Palestinian autonomy so they actually prevent that solution.

Worse than those geopolitical realities, is that the Palestinian people
themselves have elected this path that can only lead to their demise.

On 20.02.24 17:04, Indira wrote:
> Philip Herlihy wrote:
>
>> I'm not against Israel. I'm not against Palestine. But I feel slogans for
>> either side - as though either side in this terrible conflict has the moral
>> high-ground - just make these terrible times worse.
>
> Israel was attacked by Hamas terrorists who WANTED exactly what they're
> getting as they're funded, trained & directed by Iran who is who wanted it.

Simple Mind!
And this is a technical group and your posting is disgusting and
completely OT. Troll!

--
"Ave Caesar! Morituri te salutant!"

On 2024-02-20 16:47, Nick Cine wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 01:47:51 -0500, Paul wrote:
>
>> This is why they use ZIP for Takeout, on the expectation
>> it won't be a puzzle.
>
> Thank you for that advice. The zip file isn't the problem.
> It's the mbox format with Thunderbird that I don't understand.

mbox is a standard format for mail folders. There are several tools that
can read them, at least in Linux.

Thunderbird can read/write it, with some tricks, and then display all
the mails inside. I can not describe the precise procedure in Windows,
though, I don't know the directory structure there.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 2/20/2024 10:47 AM, Nick Cine wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 01:47:51 -0500, Paul wrote:
>
>> This is why they use ZIP for Takeout, on the expectation
>> it won't be a puzzle.
>
> Thank you for that advice. The zip file isn't the problem.
> It's the mbox format with Thunderbird that I don't understand.
>
> Following Mr. Vanguard's links, I asked for a Google takeout.
> I received an email today saying "Your Google data is ready to download".
> "We've finished creating a copy of the Google data you requested on
> February 20, 2024. You can download your files until February 27, 2024.
> Your download will contain data from 54 products."
>
> <https://accounts.google.com/AccountChooser?continue=https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout/download?numbers&Email=email@gmail.com
> Download data
> Since this export is too big for a single file,
> we've split it into 2 packages.
> Part 1 of 2 (90 MB)
> Part 2 of 2 (15.25 GB)
>
> It will take a while but I'm downloading it now.
> I wanted this to be as simple as it should be.
>
> What would be what I want and which many might want is
> to point a brand new portable copy of Thunderbird to the
> Google takeout mailbox and just be able to (re)read that
> email offline.
>
> Is that possible with Thunderbird & a Google Takeout
> to read the mail offline with a separate TB instance?

Just set up another free Gmail account and transfer from your old to the
new. Pick a new name same as your old and add something to recognize it.
Then your old account will be empty and you can read old stuff in the new.

Nick Cine <nickcine@is.invalid> wrote:

> VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Don't know why Cine thinks Takeout is useless. It collected my
>> Google data, put in a .zip file which downloaded okay
>
> Try to read your email that was inside the Google Takeout zip file.
> It's indecipherable.

Because my Gmail account is always empty (I get very few e-mails, and
they get deleted, and the Trash folder emptied), I sent myself 3 test
e-mails to my Gmail account. They showed up.

I ran Google Takeout, but deselected all data types except Gmail. I
wasn't going to dig through a .zip export file with tons of shit no
relevant to your claim. In less than 1 minute, I got an e-mail from
Takeout with a link to the .zip file for the exported data. The mail
was exported to an .mbox file, not to multiple .eml files (1 per
message).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbox
"All messages in an mbox mailbox are concatenated and stored as plain
text in a single file."

You'll need a program that reads .mbox files, like your e-mail client.
Since it was a 315 KB text file, I just used Notepad to look (since the
total size of all the test messages was far under the max Notepad can
handle). All the test messages were concatenated into the text .mbox
file, and all were very readable, but they were not in the order
received (not by Date order). The messages were far from
indecipherable. They were very decipherable since it was all text.
However, I suspect what you think is indecipherable is all those
HTML-formatted e-mails you received. HTML is also all text, but uses
opening <tags> and closing </tags> along with script code (stupid to put
in e-mail since clients will, by default, not interpret any script
content, CSS, and other HTML crap that is not germaine to the e-mail
communication venue. All e-mail is sent as plain text. ALL of it!
Non-ASCII charsets have to use encoding. Attachments get encoded into
long text strings inside of MIME blocks (which bloats the original size
of the attached by by 37%, or more). I suspect it is you that doesn't
know how to decipher the raw source of your e-mails.

Now come up with yet another claim about Takeout's export. I won't
bother with your claims anymore since I have no problem looking at or
using the exported data in the .zip file unless you show what you see
when you use Notpad to open the .mbox file to copy 1 of the messages
within to paste here to see just what you thin is indecipherable.

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:50:12 -0500, Zaidy036 wrote:

> Just set up another free Gmail account and transfer from your old to the
> new.

That might work. Can you tell me how to "transfer" it though?
Do you "forward" all messages from the old account to the new account?
If you mean "forward", can you do that action en masse in Thunderbird?

On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:52:29 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

> Attachments get encoded into
> long text strings inside of MIME blocks (which bloats the original size
> of the attached by by 37%, or more). I suspect it is you that doesn't
> know how to decipher the raw source of your e-mails.

What I want is Thunderbird to do "decipher the raw source of the emails".
Can Thunderbird be pointed to that file to detach attachments for example?

On 2/20/2024 9:22 PM, Nick Cine wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:50:12 -0500, Zaidy036 wrote:
>
>> Just set up another free Gmail account and transfer from your old to the
>> new.
>
> That might work. Can you tell me how to "transfer" it though?
> Do you "forward" all messages from the old account to the new account?
> If you mean "forward", can you do that action en masse in Thunderbird?
Google: transfer data to a second gmail account

On 2024-02-21 03:22, Nick Cine wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:50:12 -0500, Zaidy036 wrote:
>
>> Just set up another free Gmail account and transfer from your old to the
>> new.
>
> That might work. Can you tell me how to "transfer" it though?
> Do you "forward" all messages from the old account to the new account?
> If you mean "forward", can you do that action en masse in Thunderbird?

Just use Thunderbird. Add both accounts on Thunderbird, select messages
on one, move to the other. Easy peasy.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 2024-02-21 03:25, Nick Cine wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 19:52:29 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
>
>> Attachments get encoded into
>> long text strings inside of MIME blocks (which bloats the original size
>> of the attached by by 37%, or more). I suspect it is you that doesn't
>> know how to decipher the raw source of your e-mails.
>
> What I want is Thunderbird to do "decipher the raw source of the emails".
> Can Thunderbird be pointed to that file to detach attachments for example?

Thunderbird can read that mbox file just fine and read all the email and
all the attachments. Easy peasy.

You can try the "import mail" functionality, or just place the mbox file
in the local mail directory, create a zero bytes mbox.msf file, and
restart TB.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Zaidy036 wrote:
> On 2/20/2024 9:22 PM, Nick Cine wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:50:12 -0500, Zaidy036 wrote:
>>
>>> Just set up another free Gmail account and transfer from your old to the
>>> new.
>>
>> That might work. Can you tell me how to "transfer" it though?
>> Do you "forward" all messages from the old account to the new account?
>> If you mean "forward", can you do that action en masse in Thunderbird?
> Google: transfer data to a second gmail account

Nice trick. If your massive 15GB storage for mails is filled up with old
bullshit you never want to see or read again, just open a new account and
move all mails over there.
And when your first account is at the brim again in the next years, just
register a third account. And after that maybe a fourth..

Just don't take out your mails off from our systems. We're Google, we didn't
do no evil.
Trust them or "don't hear the shot".

On 2/20/2024 9:22 PM, Nick Cine wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:50:12 -0500, Zaidy036 wrote:
>
>> Just set up another free Gmail account and transfer from your old to the
>> new.
>
> That might work. Can you tell me how to "transfer" it though?
> Do you "forward" all messages from the old account to the new account?
> If you mean "forward", can you do that action en masse in Thunderbird?
>

I think a little "full disclosure" is required.

In addition to the basic MBOX format, Thunderbird adds "comments", which
are metadata it uses. This Inbox, inside a particular account folder,
has metadata. There is one clump of these per message, as one of the
flag bits might be the "I've Read It" flag.

F:\Users\bullwinkle\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\bf9d5uv7.default\Mail\mail.local\Inbox

X-Account-Key: account1
X-UIDL: 1 <=== message number
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 <=== some 0011, some 0001, one 0000
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:

The Sent folder has these

F:\Users\bullwinkle\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\bf9d5uv7.default\Mail\Sent

X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000
X-Mozilla-Keys:

So when you throw an MBOX into the Mail\ folder, it's going to use
some sort of metadata comments based on what it thinks the box type is.

Also, when you place a box into the folder, it should be without
a file extension. Like "Archive2017" rather than "Archive2017.MBOX".
It only makes a mess to leave the extension on the end.

Paul

On 2024-02-21 09:21, Paul wrote:
> On 2/20/2024 9:22 PM, Nick Cine wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:50:12 -0500, Zaidy036 wrote:
>>
>>> Just set up another free Gmail account and transfer from your old to the
>>> new.
>>
>> That might work. Can you tell me how to "transfer" it though?
>> Do you "forward" all messages from the old account to the new account?
>> If you mean "forward", can you do that action en masse in Thunderbird?
>>
>
> I think a little "full disclosure" is required.
>
> In addition to the basic MBOX format, Thunderbird adds "comments", which
> are metadata it uses. This Inbox, inside a particular account folder,
> has metadata. There is one clump of these per message, as one of the
> flag bits might be the "I've Read It" flag.
>
> F:\Users\bullwinkle\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\bf9d5uv7.default\Mail\mail.local\Inbox
>
> X-Account-Key: account1
> X-UIDL: 1 <=== message number
> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 <=== some 0011, some 0001, one 0000
> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
> X-Mozilla-Keys:
>
> The Sent folder has these
>
> F:\Users\bullwinkle\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\bf9d5uv7.default\Mail\Sent
>
> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000
> X-Mozilla-Keys:
>
> So when you throw an MBOX into the Mail\ folder, it's going to use
> some sort of metadata comments based on what it thinks the box type is.
>
> Also, when you place a box into the folder, it should be without
> a file extension. Like "Archive2017" rather than "Archive2017.MBOX".
> It only makes a mess to leave the extension on the end.

And you need to create an empty file with the same name and extension
..msf, or TB will not see the new mailbox. The msf is an index, TB will
see it is empty and "recreate" the contents.

At least this was so when I tried this a decade or two ago :-)

Ah, for directories, they need extension .sbd:

somefolder.sbd/
somefolder
somefolder.msf

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On 2/21/2024 7:20 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2024-02-21 09:21, Paul wrote:
>> On 2/20/2024 9:22 PM, Nick Cine wrote:
>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:50:12 -0500, Zaidy036 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just set up another free Gmail account and transfer from your old to the
>>>> new.
>>>
>>> That might work. Can you tell me how to "transfer" it though?
>>> Do you "forward" all messages from the old account to the new account?
>>> If you mean "forward", can you do that action en masse in Thunderbird?
>>>
>>
>> I think a little "full disclosure" is required.
>>
>> In addition to the basic MBOX format, Thunderbird adds "comments", which
>> are metadata it uses. This Inbox, inside a particular account folder,
>> has metadata. There is one clump of these per message, as one of the
>> flag bits might be the "I've Read It" flag.
>>
>> F:\Users\bullwinkle\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\bf9d5uv7.default\Mail\mail.local\Inbox
>>
>> X-Account-Key: account1
>> X-UIDL: 1                    <=== message number
>> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001       <=== some 0011, some 0001, one 0000
>> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
>> X-Mozilla-Keys:
>>
>> The Sent folder has these
>>
>> F:\Users\bullwinkle\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\bf9d5uv7.default\Mail\Sent
>>
>> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
>> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000
>> X-Mozilla-Keys:
>>
>> So when you throw an MBOX into the Mail\ folder, it's going to use
>> some sort of metadata comments based on what it thinks the box type is.
>>
>> Also, when you place a box into the folder, it should be without
>> a file extension. Like "Archive2017" rather than "Archive2017.MBOX".
>> It only makes a mess to leave the extension on the end.
>
> And you need to create an empty file with the same name and extension .msf, or TB will not see the new mailbox. The msf is an index, TB will see it is empty and "recreate" the contents.
>
> At least this was so when I tried this a decade or two ago :-)
>
> Ah, for directories, they need extension .sbd:
>
> somefolder.sbd/
> somefolder
> somefolder.msf

How does Takeout handle folder structures ?

My simple test case, doesn't have enough "structure"
to test everything. All I can see in my example, is
the boxname like "Inbox".

I know there are subdirectories, as I accidentally created
one in the email test virtual machine. That's the VM where
I have a (now busted) copy of hmailserver. I can't use that
any more for test, until I figure out how to fix it. It is
one stubborn piece of software.

Paul

On 2024-02-21 13:39, Paul wrote:
> On 2/21/2024 7:20 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2024-02-21 09:21, Paul wrote:
>>> On 2/20/2024 9:22 PM, Nick Cine wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 20:50:12 -0500, Zaidy036 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just set up another free Gmail account and transfer from your old to the
>>>>> new.
>>>>
>>>> That might work. Can you tell me how to "transfer" it though?
>>>> Do you "forward" all messages from the old account to the new account?
>>>> If you mean "forward", can you do that action en masse in Thunderbird?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think a little "full disclosure" is required.
>>>
>>> In addition to the basic MBOX format, Thunderbird adds "comments", which
>>> are metadata it uses. This Inbox, inside a particular account folder,
>>> has metadata. There is one clump of these per message, as one of the
>>> flag bits might be the "I've Read It" flag.
>>>
>>> F:\Users\bullwinkle\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\bf9d5uv7.default\Mail\mail.local\Inbox
>>>
>>> X-Account-Key: account1
>>> X-UIDL: 1                    <=== message number
>>> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001       <=== some 0011, some 0001, one 0000
>>> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
>>> X-Mozilla-Keys:
>>>
>>> The Sent folder has these
>>>
>>> F:\Users\bullwinkle\AppData\Roaming\Thunderbird\Profiles\bf9d5uv7.default\Mail\Sent
>>>
>>> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
>>> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000
>>> X-Mozilla-Keys:
>>>
>>> So when you throw an MBOX into the Mail\ folder, it's going to use
>>> some sort of metadata comments based on what it thinks the box type is.
>>>
>>> Also, when you place a box into the folder, it should be without
>>> a file extension. Like "Archive2017" rather than "Archive2017.MBOX".
>>> It only makes a mess to leave the extension on the end.
>>
>> And you need to create an empty file with the same name and extension .msf, or TB will not see the new mailbox. The msf is an index, TB will see it is empty and "recreate" the contents.
>>
>> At least this was so when I tried this a decade or two ago :-)
>>
>> Ah, for directories, they need extension .sbd:
>>
>> somefolder.sbd/
>> somefolder
>> somefolder.msf
>
> How does Takeout handle folder structures ?

I don't know, I haven't tried personally.

They could simply ship the AllMessages pseudofolder. Everything is
there. Possibly there is a header on each mail that says to which
"label(s)" they belong.

> My simple test case, doesn't have enough "structure"
> to test everything. All I can see in my example, is
> the boxname like "Inbox".
>
> I know there are subdirectories, as I accidentally created
> one in the email test virtual machine. That's the VM where
> I have a (now busted) copy of hmailserver. I can't use that
> any more for test, until I figure out how to fix it. It is
> one stubborn piece of software.
>
> Paul

--
Cheers, Carlos.

Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:

> On 20.02.24 05:04, VanguardLH wrote:
>> sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2/19/2024 9:27 PM, Nick Cine wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 03:22:52 +0100, Frank Miller wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Let me get this straight. You reached the maximum capacity of your Google
>>>>> IMAP account, 15GB right?
>>>>> But you don't want to "go through thousands of emails to delete those no
>>>>> longer needed"? So you just try to download those emails?
>>>>
>>>> There are two kinds of people.
>>>>
>>>> The first kind knows they'll NEVER need an email from 2017 to 2020 (or so).
>>>> The other kind has no idea if they'll ever need to look up an email in that
>>>> time range.
>>>>
>>>> You're of the former.
>>>> I'm of the latter.
>>>
>>> I would have to agree with finding it hard to question someone who has a
>>> large amount of email saved. I still have ALL the email from when I
>>> retired over a decade ago, as well as thousands of work pictures and
>>> files. On several occasions I have been called by my former employee to
>>> help settle disputes with various subcontractors, even ending up in
>>> court. In fact, on one case I went to court over 50 times on a case
>>> that went all the way to our states Supreme Court on appeal. We won
>>> every time, and might not have if I wasn't such a stickler for keeping
>>> all that stuff.
>>
>> ALL e-mails? Or just those you decided to keep at the time, or soon
>> thereafter? You keep e-mails sent to you with 2FA codes to complete a
>> login, and Black Fridays deals over 5 years ago, and dentist appointment
>> reminders, and party invites years ago, and so on? Probably not.
>> You're retaining your old /valuable/ e-mails, not all of them you ever
>> received.
>
> This is inefficient and ineffective. And opinion on this can change over
> time. Given the low price for storage space and the performance of
> modern computers this is very expensive.

But squatting in a recliner numbing your brain watching television is
time efficient? Turn off the boob tube. You'll have lots of extra
time. People make time for what is important to them.

Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2024-02-20 16:47, Nick Cine wrote:
> > On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 01:47:51 -0500, Paul wrote:
> >
> >> This is why they use ZIP for Takeout, on the expectation
> >> it won't be a puzzle.
> >
> > Thank you for that advice. The zip file isn't the problem.
> > It's the mbox format with Thunderbird that I don't understand.
>
> mbox is a standard format for mail folders. There are several tools that
> can read them, at least in Linux.
>
> Thunderbird can read/write it, with some tricks, and then display all
> the mails inside. I can not describe the precise procedure in Windows,
> though, I don't know the directory structure there.

Unless it has been changed, Thunderbird has no built-in Import (or
Export) functionality.

But you can add import/export functionality with an Extension.

When I needed import functionality when I needed to move existing mail
folders from (Windows Vista) Windows Mail to Thunderbird, I used the
ImportExportTools extension.

I don't know how to give a URL for direct use in Thunderbird, but this
is the relevant page on the developer's website, so Nick Cine can check
details and probably find ImportExportTools in Thunderbird's 'Add-ons
Manager'.

'ImportExportTools'
<https://freeshell.de/~kaosmos/mboximport-en.html>

HTH.

On 2/22/2024 8:48 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> Unless it has been changed, Thunderbird has no built-in Import (or
> Export) functionality.

[Picture]

https://i.postimg.cc/05XKRJCd/Import-Thunderbird-115.gif

There's a sandbox to play in.

I may have imported a TB profile from somewhere with it.
I tried that, instead of just copying a profile folder
and using the Profile Manager to glue it in. Normally
I just folder stuff here and there.

Paul

Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> On 2/22/2024 8:48 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>
> > Unless it has been changed, Thunderbird has no built-in Import (or
> > Export) functionality.
>
> [Picture]
>
> https://i.postimg.cc/05XKRJCd/Import-Thunderbird-115.gif
>
> There's a sandbox to play in.
>
> I may have imported a TB profile from somewhere with it.
> I tried that, instead of just copying a profile folder
> and using the Profile Manager to glue it in. Normally
> I just folder stuff here and there.

OK, so they have added some - but only minimal - import functionality.

The only one which makes some sense is 'Import from Outlook', but even
that's probably not very common, people going from Outlook to Thunderbird.

So they can import from another Thunderbird installation, from a
Seamonkey installation and from a Thunderbird profile backup. Whoopie!

Anyway, this was about import of mbox folders and it seems they still
have nothing for that (unless 'Becky! Internet Mail' - never heard of
that, must be *very* common :-( - uses mbox format).

On 2/22/2024 10:20 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>> On 2/22/2024 8:48 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>
>>> Unless it has been changed, Thunderbird has no built-in Import (or
>>> Export) functionality.
>>
>> [Picture]
>>
>> https://i.postimg.cc/05XKRJCd/Import-Thunderbird-115.gif
>>
>> There's a sandbox to play in.
>>
>> I may have imported a TB profile from somewhere with it.
>> I tried that, instead of just copying a profile folder
>> and using the Profile Manager to glue it in. Normally
>> I just folder stuff here and there.
>
> OK, so they have added some - but only minimal - import functionality.
>
> The only one which makes some sense is 'Import from Outlook', but even
> that's probably not very common, people going from Outlook to Thunderbird.
>
> So they can import from another Thunderbird installation, from a
> Seamonkey installation and from a Thunderbird profile backup. Whoopie!
>
> Anyway, this was about import of mbox folders and it seems they still
> have nothing for that (unless 'Becky! Internet Mail' - never heard of
> that, must be *very* common :-( - uses mbox format).
>

I think you can just toss the All.MBOX in as ALL and let'er rip :-)

I will go offline for a moment and try it.

*******

Worked fine. Deposited a group ALL and examining it in Thunderbird
showed 800 messages.

It does not separate the contents of ALL into the original Google
boxes, but that's fine. The information content is there, and if
you wanted to archive the content, I bet that would work.

Paul

On 2/19/2024 3:27 PM, Nick Cine wrote:
> I use Thunderbird on Windows 10 and Google GMail which is full.
>
> I want to do the least amount of thinking possible so I do not
> want to go through thousands of emails to delete those no longer
> needed - but I need to clear out the IMAP folders on Google servers.
> Without deleting.
>
> What I did, thinking I was a genius, was I created yearly local folders.
> TB: Local Folder > New Folder > {2016,2017,2018,etc}
>
> Then I sorted the Thunderbird Gmail Inbox by date & I shift-selected
> every Inbox email that came in during any given year, say for 2017.
>
> TB: (Selected Set) > Rightclick Move to > Local Folders > 2017
> where it says "Moving x of 6347 messages to 2017 and takes a while.
>
> But then the mail is still in the inbox.
> What did I do wrong?
>
> I get it's IMAP.
> But doesn't the move take care of that?
>
> Or do I have to then DELETE the mail in the inbox that I moved.
> I am asking before I do it just to make sure it's the right thing to do.
>
> Or is there an easier way to move Thunderbird emails, to yearly
> folders that are stored only on the Windows PC file system?

maybe some help here
<https://askleo.com/how-do-i-move-emails-from-one-account-to-another/?awt_a=7qbL&awt_l=DlwmB&awt_m=Jld0N4lLxZdfbL&utm_source=newsletter&utm_campaign=20240220&utm_medium=email>