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* Can I Turn Off All Quoting in trn?Chime Hart
+* Re: Can I Turn Off All Quoting in trn?Adam H. Kerman
|`- Re: Can I Turn Off All Quoting in trn?Frank Slootweg
+- Re: Can I Turn Off All Quoting in trn?Eli the Bearded
`- Re: Can I Turn Off All Quoting in trn?Adam W.

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Can I Turn Off All Quoting in trn?

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From: chime@hubert-humphrey.com (Chime Hart)
Subject: Can I Turn Off All Quoting in trn?
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 by: Chime Hart - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 16:40 UTC

Hi All: Earlier, I guess as I hit reply instead of followup in Alpine, my
comments seemingly never posted. Anyway, I suppose I was spoiled while on
Compuserve, as we almost never had to putup with quoting. In Alpine there is a
setting to ignore with options to display on the fly. Does trn have such an
option? You see, I am listening with a screen-reader-and-I've already heard
many of an original comments. Thanks so much in advance
Chime

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:08 UTC

To quote in followup, the command is "F".

To followup without quoting, it's "f", then "no" to the question, are
you starting a new topic?

With "f", a References header is added so the followup threads but no
quote of the precursor article appears in the composer.

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Subject: Re: Can I Turn Off All Quoting in trn?
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 by: Frank Slootweg - Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:52 UTC

AFAICT, the OP wants to *view* posts without their quotes. I.e. it's
not about posting, but about reading.

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 by: Eli the Bearded - Sun, 16 Apr 2023 23:59 UTC

In news.software.readers, Chime Hart <chime@hubert-humphrey.com> wrote:
> setting to ignore with options to display on the fly. Does trn have such an
> option?

If the question is "can trn surpress output of lines matching typical
quoted from previous post patterns" the answer is Yes. I usually use it
to surpress output from nested quotes, but single quoted is easier.

Use the environment variable HIDELINE, I usually set trn specific
environment variables in ~/.trn/trnrc so it doesn't litter the space for
other programs.

You might be interested in PAGESTOP, too, which stops the display on a
matching line. Both variables take a regular expression (but I'm not
sure if it is an old-school one like plain grep, or an extended RE like
egrep). Here's values I think you might like:

# supress output of any line starting with greater than or colon
HIDELINE='^[>:]'

# stop showing the article on a line that begins with dash dash space
# or a bunch of dashes and the capitalized letters in the phrase "begin
# p g p signature" (will also stop at any line full of just hyphens,
# due to the character class matching). You can read past the page stop
# if you want, this just pauses it like a form feed character would.
PAGESTOP='^--[ -][-BEGINPGSATUR ]*$'

Elijah
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both of these work in trn 3.5 as well as trn 4, but ~/.trn/trnrc is 4 only

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Subject: Re: Can I Turn Off All Quoting in trn?
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 by: Adam W. - Sun, 16 Apr 2023 17:09 UTC

Chime Hart <chime@hubert-humphrey.com> wrote:

> You see, I am listening with a screen-reader-and-I've already heard many
> of an original comments. Thanks so much in advance

I don't know if it helps (I don't know trn), but if you can pipe the
article via a command, you could pipe it via something like:

grep -v '^>'

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