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* iOS 17.0.3 has dropped*Hemidactylus*
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Re: iOS 17.0.3 has dropped

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From: jollyroger@pobox.com (Jolly Roger)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: iOS 17.0.3 has dropped
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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 23:37 UTC

On 2023-10-05, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> As expected, you still can't provide a source confirming your claim.
>
> Ah, but I did.

Nope. And you *still* can't. 🤣

Arlen the failure, everyone!

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From: jollyroger@pobox.com (Jolly Roger)
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Subject: Re: iOS 17.0.3 has dropped
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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 23:37 UTC

On 2023-10-05, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>>> Blah blah blah blah
>>
>> "WAHHHHH!!!! He huwt my feewings!"
>
> Such an adult these iKooks like Jolly Roger are...
>
> What's no longer shocking is how deathly afraid iKooks are of facts.

Cry harder, weakling. 🤣

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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 23:38 UTC

On 2023-10-05, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>>>> such a clown
>>>
>>> Blah blah blah blah
>>
>> Cry harder, Arlen.
>
> It's no longer shocking that the iKooks blah blah blah

It's no longer shocking that Arlen still can't provide a source for his
made-up words he attributes to Apple. Arlen is ever the shit-talking
child.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 23:43 UTC

On 2023-10-05, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> Dorper <usenet@dorper.me> wrote
>
>>> HINT: Think about the primitive release mechanism that only iOS uses.
>>
>> Rapid Security Response?
>
> It's good you're aware of the RSR as the iKooks are _still_ unaware of it!

Actually, everyone is aware of it.

> I'm the one who first brought it up on this newsgroup

Obvious lie. 🤣

In reality, *Hemidactylus* was the first person to mention Apple's RSR
updates on this newsgroup in 2023:

<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/VdyhxbaZ9gg/m/sgqXuyhtAQAJ>

Arlen years go by *very* quickly, you guys. *Way* faster than dog years
- much more like gnat years. 😉

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 by: *Hemidactylus* - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 02:09 UTC

Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote
>
>> Time for the resident troll to circle jerk with his sock drawer.
>
> You hate me, Hemidactyulus... *because you fear me*.
> You fear all facts about Apple products, Hemidactylus. Don't you.
>
> So be it.
>
> You fear anyone who informs you of the truth about Apple products.
>
> Your entire goal in life - is to remain ignorant of the truth.
> By me bringing the truth to you - I ruin your pleasant life.
>
> So be it.
>
> My goal is to bring an adult conversation to these child-like Apple
> newsgroups in terms of the truth behind what Apple says & what they do.
>
> What's no longer shocking is how deathly afraid low-IQ uneducated ignorant
> religious-zealot iKooks are of the simple truths about Apple products.
>
> a. Apple fucked up with the defective iPhone 15 product line;
> b. Apple forgot to test the defective iPhone 15 product line;
> c. When Apple was forced to test the defective iPhone 15 product line,
> Apple found multiple and rather embarrassingly diverse causative bugs.
>
> Worse... Apple has blamed everyone but Apple for the defective iPhones.
>
> That's the truth, right?
> *Why are you so deathly _afraid_ of those simple truths, Hemidactylus?*
>
> What is going to be interesting, for adults to ponder, is how Apple reduced
> performance since we know Apple's laywers have already couched that fact.
>
> A. Apple publicly said they'll try to limit the *long-term* impact;
> B. Apple said they'll try to not limit the *top performance* impact;
> C. And Apple said there won't be an *A17 Pro chip performance* reduction.
>
> That's the truth, right?
> *Why are you so deathly _afraid_ of these simple truths, Hemidactylus?*

Hey jackass, I purposely posted my OP to the misc.phone.mobile.iphone group
as that’s where it was relevant. Look at the title “iOS 17.0.3 has
dropped”. You masturbatorily megaphoned yourself by adding comp.mobile.ipad
and comp.sys.mac.advocacy.

Then you reply to Dorper’s post on this thread on Jolly Roger’s “iOS 17.0.3
does not throttle & Instagram's app update fixes overheating”. Proof you
are exhibiting dysfunctional symptoms and are totally unhinged due to your
psychotic obsession with Apple that is addling your brain. Given the amount
of output across groups meth binging cannot be ruled out. Check yourself
into some program that prevents your access to the internet and to whatever
chemical stimulants cause you to spew such worthless repetitive bilge in
excess.

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 by: Dorper - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 04:15 UTC

On 10/5/23, 10:21 AM, in article ufmrap$121r4$1@dont-email.me, "Wally J"
<walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:

> Dorper <usenet@dorper.me> wrote
>
>> Dude you repeating "iOS has 3x the zero days" does not make it true.
>
> "Dude" (or, if you're female... "Bitch")... those were 17 _exploited_ zero
> day holes, and yes, everyone but you knows this - as it's simply a fact.
>
> The fact you're completely unaware of facts doesn't make them not facts.
>
> I quoted exactly where that came from so many times that for you to
> _remain_ completely ignorant of every fact about Apple, means you haven't
> clicked on a single reference that has been provided to you on this topic.
>
> If I provide a reference, please do not say that the reference doesn't
> exist simply because you don't like what the reference is telling you.
>
> That's probably 90% of all the iKooks' posts in this newsgroup, Dorper.
> *They _hate_ facts - so they simply deny the existence of all facts.*
>
> I was hoping you'd be more intelligent than the iKooks are, Dorper.
>
> BTW, there's a reason Apple has so many zero-day exploits, Dorper.
>
> <https://www.securityweek.com/apple-warns-of-newly-exploited-ios-17-kernel-zer
> o-day/>
> "This is the 16th documented in-the-wild zero-day against Apple's iOS,
> iPadOS and macOS-powered devices, according to data tracked by
> SecurityWeek."
>
> Although the number is apparently 17 according to SecurityWeek themselves.
>
> <https://cybersecurityworldconference.com/2023/10/04/apple-fixed-the-17th-zero
> -day-flaw-exploited-in-attacks/>
>
> And others... so the 16 active exploits may just be date related.
> <https://thehackernews.com/2023/10/apple-rolls-out-security-patches-for.html>
> "With the new development, Apple has addressed a total of 17 actively
> exploited zero-days in its software since the start of the year."
>
> Dorper - if you're going to act like an adult, you have to comprehend facts
> (e.g., you can't claim all bugs are zero-day bugs, for example).
>
> That's the kind of idiocy that the iKooks do.
> Let's hope you are not an iKook for God's sake.
>
> Remember, all adults agree on the facts.
> Only fools disagree on facts - that's why they're fools.
>
> No intelligent discourse can occur until adults agree on facts.
> Only _after_ we agree on facts, can an intelligent conversation ensue.
>
> Do you yet agree that Apple has had 17 zero-day exploits this year, Dorper?
> Yes? or No?
>
> Note: Not all might be iOS though - but most seem to be (if not all).

The issue isn't about if there were 17 zero-day exploits. The issue is that
you say that this is 3x higher than the number of exploits for Android. That
is what everyone is having a problem with. You do ignore vulns that aren't
zero days which isn't fair because they still are risks for users of older
devices and people who have not updated. And for Open Source projects the
term "zero-day" doesn't really make sense.

The zero day exploits published by Android this year:
CVE-2023-4211 (Mali GPU Driver, ARM Holdings)
CVE-2023-35674 (Android, Google)
CVE-2023-4863 (libwebp, Google)
CVE-2023-26083 (Mali GPU Driver, ARM Holdings)
CVE-2023-2136 (Skia, Google)
CVE-2021-29256 (Mali GPU Driver, ARM Holdings)
CVE-2022-22706 (Mali GPU Driver, ARM Holdings)
CVE-2021-22600 (Linux, Linus Torvalds)
CVE-2022-0847 "Dirty Pipe" (Linux, Linus Torvalds)
CVE-2022-38181 (Mali GPU Driver, ARM Holdings)
CVE-2023-21096 (Android, Google)
CVE-2023-20963 (Android, Google)

So that is 12 "zero-days" in AOSP alone.

I believe that you own a Samsung. In a year, Google found 18 *hardware*
"zero-days" unique to Samsung devices:

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/google-finds-18-zero-day-vuln
erabilities-in-samsung-exynos-chipsets/

That brings the total # of "zero-days" for a Samsung device in a year to
around 30.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 03:22 UTC

On 2023-10-05, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
>
> a. iOS historically has two to three times the zero-day holes, and,
> b. iOS historically has something like ten times the exploits in the wild.

False, and you've never been able to provide a source for your made-up
bullshit numbers. 🙂

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On 2023-10-07 14:46, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2023-10-07, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:

>> Any reputable VPN that doesn't log traffic is good enough. Nice if
>> they are audited.
>>
>> Proton's mission statement on mail privacy is why I have an account
>> there and that they are in a prosperous, independent and neutral
>> country that is mildly obsessed with privacy helps a lot.
>>
>> And since my mail service with them is free, at least if I pay for a
>> VPN there, they'll get some revenue for their good to me. OTOH: It's
>> more expensive than Nord by a good chunk. ($173 v. $121 for 2 years).
>> (The $121 being what I paid last time).
>
> We are lucky enough to have a Visionary account with Proton, which means
> we get everything they have to offer at the highest limits, including
> any new services and products they release.

Sounds great.

Never used it enough in the early days to consider adding the other
features. I recall a period when they were promoting this and that on a
continuous basis - a bit of a noisy period that I didn't pay very much
attention to.

Proton is my anonymous e-mail for those times when I really need such.
About 2 times per year. 3? Maybe.

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Am 12.10.23 um 18:50 schrieb badgolferman:
> Hank Rogers <hank@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> badgolferman wrote:
>>> I finally upgraded to iOS 17.0.3 on my personal iPhone 14. The first thing
>>> out of the ordinary I noticed was that some of my notification sounds and
>>> haptic feedback had been changed. I use the old phone ring and old car horn
>>> (texts) which are holdovers from my first iPhone which was the 4 model. It
>>> took me a while to restore those and other notification sounds/haptics and
>>> I probably will continue to find more changes.
>>>
>>> Why did they do that?
>>>
>> I noticed that too.
>> How did you restore the missing sounds?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Settings Sounds & Haptics

See?
Idiot. You must be bored to death.

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On 10/22/23 06:41, Wally J wrote:
> Sorry for the hiccup. I had NOT meant to post this article twice.
>
> Sometimes, with Wolfgang Weygand's Eternal September (ES), it says it
> failed, but in reality, it's just delayed by ten minutes or so. Sigh.
>
> I'm using Herbert's alt.msdos.batch timezone randomizer which seems to
> cause the SSL in TOR & VPN encryption to have issues when the timezone
> randomly switches out from under it. It only happens with Ray Banana's
> Eternal September NNTP server though, but I can't use Ivo Gondolfo's bofh
> server with this set of newsgroups as paga's filters are Draconian compared
> to Wolfgang's much more lax ES filters.

It's not just you that has that issue with ES. I've had that happen
multiple times, and there's a thread in e-s.support about it. Hopefully
a fix will come soon.

> PS: If someone can explain HOW the heck SSL _knows_ your "real"
> timezone, please explain it to me as I don't know how they do it.

My guess is IP fingerprinting, but I'll look it up.
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