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 by: badgolferman - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 11:48 UTC

In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
daughter of Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Jobs, delved into the complex
relationship she had with her father while discussing her memoir, where
she details the emotional landscape of her interactions with him. This
intricate dynamic was punctuated by Steve Jobs’ initial denial of
paternity, a denial that forced a state-mandated DNA test and his
subsequent reluctance to provide for Lisa.

One of the emotionally charged recollections shared by Lisa was her
questioning her worth in her father’s eyes — “Was I an ugly baby?” This
question arose from a painful interaction where Steve Jobs seemed
disinterested in her baby albums, an anecdote that sheds light on the
emotional distance that often characterized their relationship.

The state-enforced DNA test to establish paternity did little to change
Steve Jobs’ stance, who, in 1982, made a startling statement to a Time
magazine journalist when he said that "28% of the male population of
the United States could be the father."

Lisa also highlighted instances of her father’s refusal to provide for
her, even as she matured. At age nine, when Lisa asked about inheriting
her father's Porsche, Jobs said, "You're not getting anything. You
understand? Nothing. You're getting nothing." This financial
indifference persisted into her teenage years, marked by Jobs'
reluctance to mend the heating in her room or fix the dishwasher when
she lived with him. The disregard extended to her education when Jobs
hesitated to cover her college fees at Harvard, relenting only after
wealthy neighbors intervened, although he reimbursed them much later.

Jobs set rigid rules for Lisa to be acknowledged as part of his family,
including following a strict curfew, limiting interactions with her
mother and yielding to his absolute authority. A poignant scene in a
restaurant further showcased the tense father-daughter relationship,
with Jobs harshly criticizing Lisa’s teenage cousin, Sarah, for
ordering a burger, saying, "Have you ever thought about how awful your
voice is? Please stop talking in that awful voice."

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/steve-jobs-denied-daughter-years-154603931.html

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 by: sticks - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 13:48 UTC

On 10/31/2023 6:48 AM, badgolferman wrote:
> In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
> daughter of Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Jobs, delved into the complex
> relationship she had with her father while discussing her memoir,

---snip attack on dead man---

Thanks. Now I'll know why I have phone issues.

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 by: Alan - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 15:41 UTC

On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
> In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,

What is the point of this post?

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 by: Jörg Lorenz - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 15:49 UTC

Am 31.10.23 um 12:48 schrieb badgolferman:
> In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
> daughter of Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Jobs, delved into the complex
> relationship she had with her father while discussing her memoir, where

Insanely OT in this group, bored man.

--
Alea icacta est

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 by: Jörg Lorenz - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 15:50 UTC

Am 31.10.23 um 14:48 schrieb sticks:
> On 10/31/2023 6:48 AM, badgolferman wrote:
>> In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
>> daughter of Apple Inc. co-founder Steve Jobs, delved into the complex
>> relationship she had with her father while discussing her memoir,
>
> ---snip attack on dead man---
>
> Thanks. Now I'll know why I have phone issues.

The OP is a grumpy, bored old man.
And every day a new issue. Not to be taken serious at all!

--
Alea icacta est

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 by: badgolferman - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:36 UTC

Alan wrote:

>On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
>>In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
>
>What is the point of this post?

Apple related information.

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 by: Jörg Lorenz - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:38 UTC

On 31.10.23 17:36, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
>>> In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
>>
>> What is the point of this post?
>
> Apple related information.

Nope. Father/daughter issues. Not more and not less.

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 by: Alan - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:46 UTC

On 2023-10-31 09:36, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
>>> In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
>>
>> What is the point of this post?
>
> Apple related information.

No... ...it's really not.

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 by: badgolferman - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:52 UTC

Alan wrote:

>On 2023-10-31 09:36, badgolferman wrote:
>>Alan wrote:
>>
>>>On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa
>>>>Brennan-Jobs,
>>>
>>>What is the point of this post?
>>
>>Apple related information.
>
>No... ...it's really not.

In a biography of obs by Walter Isaacson, published just days after his
death in 2011, Jobs acknowledged his absence in his children's lives,
saying, “I wanted my kids to know me.” He said, “I wasn’t always there
for them, and I wanted them to know why and to understand what I did.”

----------------

It shows how devoted Jobs was to his craft. That should make his
admirers proud!

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"Some folks are wise and some are otherwise." ~ Tobias George Smolett

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 by: sticks - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 17:44 UTC

On 10/31/2023 11:52 AM, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2023-10-31 09:36, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>> In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa
>>>>> Brennan-Jobs,
>>>>
>>>> What is the point of this post?
>>>
>>> Apple related information.
>>
>> No... ...it's really not.
>
>
> In a biography of obs by Walter Isaacson, published just days after his
> death in 2011, Jobs acknowledged his absence in his children's lives,
> saying, “I wanted my kids to know me.” He said, “I wasn’t always there
> for them, and I wanted them to know why and to understand what I did.”
>
> ----------------

This post, though still completely off-topic, is a completely different
line of attack from the original link of yours, only similar in that he
was a bad dad. I had hoped you would come to your senses and see this
for what it is: a pointless post about a dead man that does nothing to
contribute to this group.

> It shows how devoted Jobs was to his craft. That should make his
> admirers proud!

Alas, you've doubled down with this silliness. I shall have to rethink
my position on reading things from you in the future.

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 by: badgolferman - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 19:18 UTC

sticks wrote:

>Alas, you've doubled down with this silliness. I shall have to
>rethink my position on reading things from you in the future.

As you wish. Personally I don't read every single message to this
newsgroup either.

My goal is to provide relevant news articles about Apple and iPhone. I
saw this one and thought since it talked about the inventor of the
iPhone some people here would be interested.

--
"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." ~ Alexander Hamilton

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 by: Alan - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 21:02 UTC

On 2023-10-31 09:52, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2023-10-31 09:36, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>> In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa
>>>>> Brennan-Jobs,
>>>>
>>>> What is the point of this post?
>>>
>>> Apple related information.
>>
>> No... ...it's really not.
>
>
> In a biography of obs by Walter Isaacson, published just days after his
> death in 2011, Jobs acknowledged his absence in his children's lives,
> saying, “I wanted my kids to know me.” He said, “I wasn’t always there
> for them, and I wanted them to know why and to understand what I did.”
>
> ----------------
>
> It shows how devoted Jobs was to his craft. That should make his
> admirers proud!
>

You posting it shows how much of an ass you CHOOSE TO BE.

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 by: Alan - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 21:02 UTC

On 2023-10-31 12:18, badgolferman wrote:
> sticks wrote:
>
>> Alas, you've doubled down with this silliness. I shall have to
>> rethink my position on reading things from you in the future.
>
>
> As you wish. Personally I don't read every single message to this
> newsgroup either.
>
> My goal is to provide relevant news articles about Apple and iPhone. I
> saw this one and thought since it talked about the inventor of the
> iPhone some people here would be interested.
>

And yet you chose to pointlessly slam a dead man.

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 by: badgolferman - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 21:48 UTC

Alan wrote:

>On 2023-10-31 12:18, badgolferman wrote:
>>sticks wrote:
>>
>>>Alas, you've doubled down with this silliness. I shall have to
>>>rethink my position on reading things from you in the future.
>>
>>
>>As you wish. Personally I don't read every single message to this
>>newsgroup either.
>>
>>My goal is to provide relevant news articles about Apple and
>>iPhone. I saw this one and thought since it talked about the
>>inventor of the iPhone some people here would be interested.
>>
>
>And yet you chose to pointlessly slam a dead man.

Nope, your disdain should be directed toward the writer of the article
-- Jeannine Mancini.

All I did was inform the group of the article.

--
"What's right is what's left if you do everything wrong." ~ Robin
Williams

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 by: Chris - Tue, 31 Oct 2023 23:37 UTC

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
>>> In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
>>
>> What is the point of this post?
>
> Apple related information.
>

Then post it on an Apple ng. This isn't it.

Jobs died quite a while ago now.

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 by: Alan - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 00:52 UTC

On 2023-10-31 14:48, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2023-10-31 12:18, badgolferman wrote:
>>> sticks wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alas, you've doubled down with this silliness. I shall have to
>>>> rethink my position on reading things from you in the future.
>>>
>>>
>>> As you wish. Personally I don't read every single message to this
>>> newsgroup either.
>>>
>>> My goal is to provide relevant news articles about Apple and
>>> iPhone. I saw this one and thought since it talked about the
>>> inventor of the iPhone some people here would be interested.
>>>
>>
>> And yet you chose to pointlessly slam a dead man.
>
>
> Nope, your disdain should be directed toward the writer of the article
> -- Jeannine Mancini.
>
> All I did was inform the group of the article.

Right.

You CHOSE to post it.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 04:03 UTC

On 2023-10-31, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-10-31 04:48, badgolferman wrote:
>> In a 2018 interview published by The Guardian, Lisa Brennan-Jobs,
>
> What is the point of this post?

To disparage a dead guy.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 1 Nov 2023 04:04 UTC

On 2023-10-31, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>> On 2023-10-31 12:18, badgolferman wrote:
>>> sticks wrote:
>>>
>>>>Alas, you've doubled down with this silliness. I shall have to
>>>>rethink my position on reading things from you in the future.
>>>
>>>As you wish. Personally I don't read every single message to this
>>>newsgroup either.
>>>
>>>My goal is to provide relevant news articles about Apple and
>>>iPhone. I saw this one and thought since it talked about the
>>>inventor of the iPhone some people here would be interested.
>>
>>And yet you chose to pointlessly slam a dead man.
>
> Nope, your disdain should be directed toward the writer of the article
> -- Jeannine Mancini.
>
> All I did was inform the group of the article.

"Intersting." (read in Elon's right wingnut retweets)

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR


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