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'The Great Controversy (book)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Controversy_(book)

I got a copy of this book today. I don't know why. It's addressed to me or current resident. Most likely it;s because I'm a registered Democrat, but it could be from the time I was a Republican. (That was a horrible experience.)

"In addition to the major Adventist publishing houses, the book has also been printed and distributed by various independent initiatives. Remnant Publications sent more than 350,000 copies of the book to residents of Charlotte, North Carolina in 2014, after having already sent a million books to people in Manhattan and over 300,000 to people in Washington, D.C"

My copy came from those guys. Sticks should contact these guys for a copy of their book because;

""Above all, the book will point you to the One who alone can satisfy the deepest longing of your heart, and who will ultimately end the controversy between good and evil."

Oh my goodness gracious, blessed CERTAINTY! What could be wrong with that? LOL

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 by: Technobarbarian - Sun, 14 May 2023 15:39 UTC

On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:17:59 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
> 'The Great Controversy (book)
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Controversy_(book)
>
> I got a copy of this book today. I don't know why. It's addressed to me or current resident. Most likely it;s because I'm a registered Democrat, but it could be from the time I was a Republican. (That was a horrible experience.)
>
> "In addition to the major Adventist publishing houses, the book has also been printed and distributed by various independent initiatives. Remnant Publications sent more than 350,000 copies of the book to residents of Charlotte, North Carolina in 2014, after having already sent a million books to people in Manhattan and over 300,000 to people in Washington, D.C"
>
> My copy came from those guys. Sticks should contact these guys for a copy of their book because;
>
> ""Above all, the book will point you to the One who alone can satisfy the deepest longing of your heart, and who will ultimately end the controversy between good and evil."
>
> Oh my goodness gracious, blessed CERTAINTY! What could be wrong with that? LOL

"A Michigan Nonprofit Is Blanketing Portland in Religious Literature
Remnant Publications has previously targeted other cities it believes to be plagued by social problems."

By Lucas Manfield
May 13, 2023 at 6:44 pm PDT
Portlanders of all stripes have opened their mailboxes in the past week to find, to their surprise, an unsolicited copy of The Great Controversy.

The 473-page paperback book authored by the founder of the Seventh-day Adventist Church promises to tell the “untold story behind the Vatican’s rising influence in America.” It was written in 1858, and is now being mass distributed by a 34-year-old family-run nonprofit in Coldwater, Mich., that has made a habit of blanketing cities across the United States with evangelizing texts.

As a nonprofit, Remnant enjoys “significantly reduced” postage rates from the U.S. Postal Service, which is already substantially subsidized by taxpayers. (USPS reported a $1 billion loss in January alone.)

But the unsolicited gifts have annoyed many Portlanders, who have taken to social media to decry the waste of paper and postage.

Portland is only Remnant’s latest target. A webpage on its website solicits donations to the “Great Controversy Project,” which “helps Remnant Publications do mass distributions of The Great Controversy in major cities and even whole states across North America.”

It raised $8 million in 2020 and paid a total of $140,000 in income to the three men who run it, according to its latest public filing with the Internal Revenue Service.

Remnant Publications has previously sent millions of copies of the book to Chicago, Philadelphia and New York. Most recently, its blanketed ZIP codes in West Virginia and Vermont. Now, it has shifted focus to Portland.

“Will you please help Remnant Publications place this precious book in the hands of dear souls in Portland, OR?” the website asks, before soliciting a $1,000 donation.

Remnant Publications did not return a request for comment. But Portland’s selection may not be random.

In 2016, the Chicago Tribune reported that the Windy City had been similarly targeted due to its crime problems. The nonprofit’s CEO, Dwight Hall, explained his reasoning for the mass mailings: “The biggest thing is [the donors] can help somebody to have a better way of life. That’s the whole reason for this,” he said.

Better in what way, though? What succor can Portlanders troubled by random dog attacks and squatters’ den fires hope to take from The Great Controversy, written by Ellen G. White? The book purports to be a consideration of the growing influence of the Catholic Church on American life (a spicy topic in 1858) before pivoting to White’s contention that the most violent divide among Christians will soon be whether the Sabbath falls on Saturday or Sunday."

https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2023/05/13/a-michigan-nonprofit-is-blanketing-portland-in-religious-literature/

But, but, but, I don't even live in Portland, and I'm a heathen who can't decide if everyday is a sabbath day, or none of them. After I glanced at it to see what it was about I tossed my copy in the trash. Where it belonged.

TB

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 by: George Anthony - Sun, 14 May 2023 16:20 UTC

On 5/14/2023 10:39 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:17:59 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
>> 'The Great Controversy (book)
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Controversy_(book)
>>
>> I got a copy of this book today. I don't know why. It's addressed to me or current resident. Most likely it;s because I'm a registered Democrat, but it could be from the time I was a Republican. (That was a horrible experience.)
>>
>> "In addition to the major Adventist publishing houses, the book has also been printed and distributed by various independent initiatives. Remnant Publications sent more than 350,000 copies of the book to residents of Charlotte, North Carolina in 2014, after having already sent a million books to people in Manhattan and over 300,000 to people in Washington, D.C"
>>
>> My copy came from those guys. Sticks should contact these guys for a copy of their book because;
>>
>> ""Above all, the book will point you to the One who alone can satisfy the deepest longing of your heart, and who will ultimately end the controversy between good and evil."
>>
>> Oh my goodness gracious, blessed CERTAINTY! What could be wrong with that? LOL
>
> "A Michigan Nonprofit Is Blanketing Portland in Religious Literature
> Remnant Publications has previously targeted other cities it believes to be plagued by social problems."
>
> By Lucas Manfield
> May 13, 2023 at 6:44 pm PDT
> Portlanders of all stripes have opened their mailboxes in the past week to find, to their surprise, an unsolicited copy of The Great Controversy.
>
> The 473-page paperback book authored by the founder of the Seventh-day Adventist Church promises to tell the “untold story behind the Vatican’s rising influence in America.” It was written in 1858, and is now being mass distributed by a 34-year-old family-run nonprofit in Coldwater, Mich., that has made a habit of blanketing cities across the United States with evangelizing texts.
>
> As a nonprofit, Remnant enjoys “significantly reduced” postage rates from the U.S. Postal Service, which is already substantially subsidized by taxpayers. (USPS reported a $1 billion loss in January alone.)
>
> But the unsolicited gifts have annoyed many Portlanders, who have taken to social media to decry the waste of paper and postage.
>
> Portland is only Remnant’s latest target. A webpage on its website solicits donations to the “Great Controversy Project,” which “helps Remnant Publications do mass distributions of The Great Controversy in major cities and even whole states across North America.”
>
> It raised $8 million in 2020 and paid a total of $140,000 in income to the three men who run it, according to its latest public filing with the Internal Revenue Service.
>
> Remnant Publications has previously sent millions of copies of the book to Chicago, Philadelphia and New York. Most recently, its blanketed ZIP codes in West Virginia and Vermont. Now, it has shifted focus to Portland.
>
> “Will you please help Remnant Publications place this precious book in the hands of dear souls in Portland, OR?” the website asks, before soliciting a $1,000 donation.
>
> Remnant Publications did not return a request for comment. But Portland’s selection may not be random.
>
> In 2016, the Chicago Tribune reported that the Windy City had been similarly targeted due to its crime problems. The nonprofit’s CEO, Dwight Hall, explained his reasoning for the mass mailings: “The biggest thing is [the donors] can help somebody to have a better way of life. That’s the whole reason for this,” he said.
>
> Better in what way, though? What succor can Portlanders troubled by random dog attacks and squatters’ den fires hope to take from The Great Controversy, written by Ellen G. White? The book purports to be a consideration of the growing influence of the Catholic Church on American life (a spicy topic in 1858) before pivoting to White’s contention that the most violent divide among Christians will soon be whether the Sabbath falls on Saturday or Sunday."
>
> https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2023/05/13/a-michigan-nonprofit-is-blanketing-portland-in-religious-literature/
>
> But, but, but, I don't even live in Portland, and I'm a heathen who can't decide if everyday is a sabbath day, or none of them. After I glanced at it to see what it was about I tossed my copy in the trash. Where it belonged.
>
> TB

Therefore you don't believe Portland is plagued by social problems. You
aren't living under a rock, you live under El Capitan.
--
(Space holder for future brilliant signature line)

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 by: sticks - Sun, 14 May 2023 17:38 UTC

On 5/14/2023 10:39 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:17:59 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
>> 'The Great Controversy (book)
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Controversy_(book)
>>
>> I got a copy of this book today. I don't know why. It's addressed to me or current resident. Most likely it;s because I'm a registered Democrat, but it could be from the time I was a Republican. (That was a horrible experience.)
>>
>> "In addition to the major Adventist publishing houses, the book has also been printed and distributed by various independent initiatives. Remnant Publications sent more than 350,000 copies of the book to residents of Charlotte, North Carolina in 2014, after having already sent a million books to people in Manhattan and over 300,000 to people in Washington, D.C"
>>
>> My copy came from those guys. Sticks should contact these guys for a copy of their book because;
>>
>> ""Above all, the book will point you to the One who alone can satisfy the deepest longing of your heart, and who will ultimately end the controversy between good and evil."
>>
>> Oh my goodness gracious, blessed CERTAINTY! What could be wrong with that? LOL
>
> "A Michigan Nonprofit Is Blanketing Portland in Religious Literature
> Remnant Publications has previously targeted other cities it believes to be plagued by social problems."
>
> By Lucas Manfield
> May 13, 2023 at 6:44 pm PDT
> Portlanders of all stripes have opened their mailboxes in the past week to find, to their surprise, an unsolicited copy of The Great Controversy.
>
> The 473-page paperback book authored by the founder of the Seventh-day Adventist Church promises to tell the “untold story behind the Vatican’s rising influence in America.” It was written in 1858, and is now being mass distributed by a 34-year-old family-run nonprofit in Coldwater, Mich., that has made a habit of blanketing cities across the United States with evangelizing texts.
>
> As a nonprofit, Remnant enjoys “significantly reduced” postage rates from the U.S. Postal Service, which is already substantially subsidized by taxpayers. (USPS reported a $1 billion loss in January alone.)
>
> But the unsolicited gifts have annoyed many Portlanders, who have taken to social media to decry the waste of paper and postage.
>
> Portland is only Remnant’s latest target. A webpage on its website solicits donations to the “Great Controversy Project,” which “helps Remnant Publications do mass distributions of The Great Controversy in major cities and even whole states across North America.”
>
> It raised $8 million in 2020 and paid a total of $140,000 in income to the three men who run it, according to its latest public filing with the Internal Revenue Service.
>
> Remnant Publications has previously sent millions of copies of the book to Chicago, Philadelphia and New York. Most recently, its blanketed ZIP codes in West Virginia and Vermont. Now, it has shifted focus to Portland.
>
> “Will you please help Remnant Publications place this precious book in the hands of dear souls in Portland, OR?” the website asks, before soliciting a $1,000 donation.
>
> Remnant Publications did not return a request for comment. But Portland’s selection may not be random.
>
> In 2016, the Chicago Tribune reported that the Windy City had been similarly targeted due to its crime problems. The nonprofit’s CEO, Dwight Hall, explained his reasoning for the mass mailings: “The biggest thing is [the donors] can help somebody to have a better way of life. That’s the whole reason for this,” he said.
>
> Better in what way, though? What succor can Portlanders troubled by random dog attacks and squatters’ den fires hope to take from The Great Controversy, written by Ellen G. White? The book purports to be a consideration of the growing influence of the Catholic Church on American life (a spicy topic in 1858) before pivoting to White’s contention that the most violent divide among Christians will soon be whether the Sabbath falls on Saturday or Sunday."
>
> https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2023/05/13/a-michigan-nonprofit-is-blanketing-portland-in-religious-literature/
>
> But, but, but, I don't even live in Portland, and I'm a heathen who can't decide if everyday is a sabbath day, or none of them. After I glanced at it to see what it was about I tossed my copy in the trash. Where it belonged.
>
> TB

Do you do that with the Qur'an and then boast about it, too? Just
wondering how far your tolerant Paganism goes.

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Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:17:59 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian
> wrote:
>> 'The Great Controversy (book)
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Controversy_(book)
>>
>> I got a copy of this book today. I don't know why. It's addressed
>> to me or current resident. Most likely it;s because I'm a
>> registered Democrat, but it could be from the time I was a
>> Republican. (That was a horrible experience.)
>>
>> "In addition to the major Adventist publishing houses, the book
>> has also been printed and distributed by various independent
>> initiatives. Remnant Publications sent more than 350,000 copies
>> of the book to residents of Charlotte, North Carolina in 2014,
>> after having already sent a million books to people in Manhattan
>> and over 300,000 to people in Washington, D.C"
>>
>> My copy came from those guys. Sticks should contact these guys
>> for a copy of their book because;
>>
>> ""Above all, the book will point you to the One who alone can
>> satisfy the deepest longing of your heart, and who will
>> ultimately end the controversy between good and evil."
>>
>> Oh my goodness gracious, blessed CERTAINTY! What could be wrong
>> with that? LOL
>
> "A Michigan Nonprofit Is Blanketing Portland in Religious
> Literature Remnant Publications has previously targeted other
> cities it believes to be plagued by social problems."
>
> By Lucas Manfield May 13, 2023 at 6:44 pm PDT Portlanders of all
> stripes have opened their mailboxes in the past week to find, to
> their surprise, an unsolicited copy of The Great Controversy.
>
> The 473-page paperback book authored by the founder of the
> Seventh-day Adventist Church promises to tell the “untold story
> behind the Vatican’s rising influence in America.” It was
> written in 1858, and is now being mass distributed by a 34-year-old
> family-run nonprofit in Coldwater, Mich., that has made a habit of
> blanketing cities across the United States with evangelizing
> texts.
>
> As a nonprofit, Remnant enjoys “significantly reduced” postage
> rates from the U.S. Postal Service, which is already substantially
> subsidized by taxpayers. (USPS reported a $1 billion loss in
> January alone.)
>
> But the unsolicited gifts have annoyed many Portlanders, who have
> taken to social media to decry the waste of paper and postage.
>
> Portland is only Remnant’s latest target. A webpage on its
> website solicits donations to the “Great Controversy Project,”
> which “helps Remnant Publications do mass distributions of The
> Great Controversy in major cities and even whole states across
> North America.”
>
> It raised $8 million in 2020 and paid a total of $140,000 in income
> to the three men who run it, according to its latest public filing
> with the Internal Revenue Service.
>
> Remnant Publications has previously sent millions of copies of the
> book to Chicago, Philadelphia and New York. Most recently, its
> blanketed ZIP codes in West Virginia and Vermont. Now, it has
> shifted focus to Portland.
>
> “Will you please help Remnant Publications place this precious
> book in the hands of dear souls in Portland, OR?” the website
> asks, before soliciting a $1,000 donation.
>
> Remnant Publications did not return a request for comment. But
> Portland’s selection may not be random.
>
> In 2016, the Chicago Tribune reported that the Windy City had been
> similarly targeted due to its crime problems. The nonprofit’s
> CEO, Dwight Hall, explained his reasoning for the mass mailings:
> “The biggest thing is [the donors] can help somebody to have a
> better way of life. That’s the whole reason for this,” he
> said.
>
> Better in what way, though? What succor can Portlanders troubled by
> random dog attacks and squatters’ den fires hope to take from The
> Great Controversy, written by Ellen G. White? The book purports to
> be a consideration of the growing influence of the Catholic Church
> on American life (a spicy topic in 1858) before pivoting to
> White’s contention that the most violent divide among Christians
> will soon be whether the Sabbath falls on Saturday or Sunday."
>
> https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2023/05/13/a-michigan-nonprofit-is-blanketing-portland-in-religious-literature/
>
> But, but, but, I don't even live in Portland, and I'm a heathen
> who can't decide if everyday is a sabbath day, or none of them.
> After I glanced at it to see what it was about I tossed my copy in
> the trash. Where it belonged.

Whine, whinge, moan, groan, bitch, and complain. We've had the JW's
literally knock on our door countless times over the years, and we
didn't even have the option of throwing them in the trash. So, look,
like, at the end of the day going forward, count
your.....ummmm......blessings.

BTW and hey and let me be clear. If you were literally, like, worth a
damn as a compassionate self-identified Dem, instead of just
outrageously uncaringly tossing it in the trash, you would have given
the book to an unfairly disadvantaged unhomed person to wipe with, or
to wrap their leftover dumpster-sourced food to keep those filthy
shiny green flies off of it.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 11:18:00 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:17:59 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian
> > wrote:
> >> 'The Great Controversy (book)
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Controversy_(book)
> >>
> >> I got a copy of this book today. I don't know why. It's addressed
> >> to me or current resident. Most likely it;s because I'm a
> >> registered Democrat, but it could be from the time I was a
> >> Republican. (That was a horrible experience.)
> >>
> >> "In addition to the major Adventist publishing houses, the book
> >> has also been printed and distributed by various independent
> >> initiatives. Remnant Publications sent more than 350,000 copies
> >> of the book to residents of Charlotte, North Carolina in 2014,
> >> after having already sent a million books to people in Manhattan
> >> and over 300,000 to people in Washington, D.C"
> >>
> >> My copy came from those guys. Sticks should contact these guys
> >> for a copy of their book because;
> >>
> >> ""Above all, the book will point you to the One who alone can
> >> satisfy the deepest longing of your heart, and who will
> >> ultimately end the controversy between good and evil."
> >>
> >> Oh my goodness gracious, blessed CERTAINTY! What could be wrong
> >> with that? LOL
> >
> > "A Michigan Nonprofit Is Blanketing Portland in Religious
> > Literature Remnant Publications has previously targeted other
> > cities it believes to be plagued by social problems."
> >
> > By Lucas Manfield May 13, 2023 at 6:44 pm PDT Portlanders of all
> > stripes have opened their mailboxes in the past week to find, to
> > their surprise, an unsolicited copy of The Great Controversy.
> >
> > The 473-page paperback book authored by the founder of the
> > Seventh-day Adventist Church promises to tell the “untold story
> > behind the Vatican’s rising influence in America..†It was
> > written in 1858, and is now being mass distributed by a 34-year-old
> > family-run nonprofit in Coldwater, Mich., that has made a habit of
> > blanketing cities across the United States with evangelizing
> > texts.
> >
> > As a nonprofit, Remnant enjoys “significantly reduced†postage
> > rates from the U.S. Postal Service, which is already substantially
> > subsidized by taxpayers. (USPS reported a $1 billion loss in
> > January alone.)
> >
> > But the unsolicited gifts have annoyed many Portlanders, who have
> > taken to social media to decry the waste of paper and postage.
> >
> > Portland is only Remnant’s latest target. A webpage on its
> > website solicits donations to the “Great Controversy Project,â€
> > which “helps Remnant Publications do mass distributions of The
> > Great Controversy in major cities and even whole states across
> > North America.â€
> >
> > It raised $8 million in 2020 and paid a total of $140,000 in income
> > to the three men who run it, according to its latest public filing
> > with the Internal Revenue Service.
> >
> > Remnant Publications has previously sent millions of copies of the
> > book to Chicago, Philadelphia and New York. Most recently, its
> > blanketed ZIP codes in West Virginia and Vermont. Now, it has
> > shifted focus to Portland.
> >
> > “Will you please help Remnant Publications place this precious
> > book in the hands of dear souls in Portland, OR?†the website
> > asks, before soliciting a $1,000 donation.
> >
> > Remnant Publications did not return a request for comment. But
> > Portland’s selection may not be random.
> >
> > In 2016, the Chicago Tribune reported that the Windy City had been
> > similarly targeted due to its crime problems. The nonprofit’s
> > CEO, Dwight Hall, explained his reasoning for the mass mailings:
> > “The biggest thing is [the donors] can help somebody to have a
> > better way of life. That’s the whole reason for this,†he
> > said.
> >
> > Better in what way, though? What succor can Portlanders troubled by
> > random dog attacks and squatters’ den fires hope to take from The
> > Great Controversy, written by Ellen G. White? The book purports to
> > be a consideration of the growing influence of the Catholic Church
> > on American life (a spicy topic in 1858) before pivoting to
> > White’s contention that the most violent divide among Christians
> > will soon be whether the Sabbath falls on Saturday or Sunday."
> >
> > https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2023/05/13/a-michigan-nonprofit-is-blanketing-portland-in-religious-literature/
> >
> > But, but, but, I don't even live in Portland, and I'm a heathen
> > who can't decide if everyday is a sabbath day, or none of them.
> > After I glanced at it to see what it was about I tossed my copy in
> > the trash. Where it belonged.
> Whine, whinge, moan, groan, bitch, and complain. We've had the JW's
> literally knock on our door countless times over the years, and we
> didn't even have the option of throwing them in the trash. So, look,
> like, at the end of the day going forward, count
> your.....ummmm......blessings.
>
> BTW and hey and let me be clear. If you were literally, like, worth a
> damn as a compassionate self-identified Dem, instead of just
> outrageously uncaringly tossing it in the trash, you would have given
> the book to an unfairly disadvantaged unhomed person to wipe with, or
> to wrap their leftover dumpster-sourced food to keep those filthy
> shiny green flies off of it.
>
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

You and our jive ass troll are making just a shit ton of ridiculous assumptions. For starters: I AM NOT COMPLAINING!" If anything, I'm bragging. Not just anyone gets a free copy of that book without even asking for it. WE'RE SPECIAL!.

I actually miss the Jesus jumpers and assorted religious nuts we used to get. I sometimes enjoy playing with them. They must keep some sort of record. Most of the major groups stop sending people to my house. Most of what we were getting here was people looking Spanish speakers, and I'm not going to rat out my neighbors to those people. I've seen people targeting bus stops that really couldn't deal with anyone who didn't speak Spanish. I tried to explain it to the last guy who tried to sell me his God at a bus stop.. He has stopped his car across the street just so he could talk to me. I don't think he really understood. It took him awhile to understand that he needed to get further away from me with that thing, but he did eventually. I told him he was selling and I wasn't buying. He said they weren't asking for any money. I pointed out that sooner or later someone would ask for money because the "church" needed it.

My favorite Jesus Jumper was hauling his cute teenage daughter around with him. At least he said she was his daughter. It looked like she was a prize I could win if I played my cards right. I *obviously* needed to be saved.

I threw that book in the trash because I think you need to be careful how you handle toxic material. I've seen how recycled material is handled so I didn't put it in the recycling bin. I worked for a recycling place as a driver many years ago. Some of what they recycled was pornographic. For months that stuff was spread all over the floor. I don't object to pornograhpy, but it was surreal walking on random porn as just an ordinary part of the job. At least porn is people making love. That book is people making hate and using the Bible to help them do it.

TB

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 by: Technobarbarian - Mon, 15 May 2023 13:53 UTC

On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 10:38:32 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
> On 5/14/2023 10:39 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:17:59 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
> >> 'The Great Controversy (book)
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Controversy_(book)
> >>
> >> I got a copy of this book today. I don't know why. It's addressed to me or current resident. Most likely it;s because I'm a registered Democrat, but it could be from the time I was a Republican. (That was a horrible experience.)
> >>
> >> "In addition to the major Adventist publishing houses, the book has also been printed and distributed by various independent initiatives. Remnant Publications sent more than 350,000 copies of the book to residents of Charlotte, North Carolina in 2014, after having already sent a million books to people in Manhattan and over 300,000 to people in Washington, D.C"
> >>
> >> My copy came from those guys. Sticks should contact these guys for a copy of their book because;
> >>
> >> ""Above all, the book will point you to the One who alone can satisfy the deepest longing of your heart, and who will ultimately end the controversy between good and evil."
> >>
> >> Oh my goodness gracious, blessed CERTAINTY! What could be wrong with that? LOL
> >
> > "A Michigan Nonprofit Is Blanketing Portland in Religious Literature
> > Remnant Publications has previously targeted other cities it believes to be plagued by social problems."
> >
> > By Lucas Manfield
> > May 13, 2023 at 6:44 pm PDT
> > Portlanders of all stripes have opened their mailboxes in the past week to find, to their surprise, an unsolicited copy of The Great Controversy.
> >
> > The 473-page paperback book authored by the founder of the Seventh-day Adventist Church promises to tell the “untold story behind the Vatican’s rising influence in America.” It was written in 1858, and is now being mass distributed by a 34-year-old family-run nonprofit in Coldwater, Mich., that has made a habit of blanketing cities across the United States with evangelizing texts.
> >
> > As a nonprofit, Remnant enjoys “significantly reduced” postage rates from the U.S. Postal Service, which is already substantially subsidized by taxpayers. (USPS reported a $1 billion loss in January alone.)
>
> > But the unsolicited gifts have annoyed many Portlanders, who have taken to social media to decry the waste of paper and postage.
> >
> > Portland is only Remnant’s latest target. A webpage on its website solicits donations to the “Great Controversy Project,” which “helps Remnant Publications do mass distributions of The Great Controversy in major cities and even whole states across North America.”
> >
> > It raised $8 million in 2020 and paid a total of $140,000 in income to the three men who run it, according to its latest public filing with the Internal Revenue Service.
> >
> > Remnant Publications has previously sent millions of copies of the book to Chicago, Philadelphia and New York. Most recently, its blanketed ZIP codes in West Virginia and Vermont. Now, it has shifted focus to Portland.
> >
> > “Will you please help Remnant Publications place this precious book in the hands of dear souls in Portland, OR?” the website asks, before soliciting a $1,000 donation.
> >
> > Remnant Publications did not return a request for comment. But Portland’s selection may not be random.
> >
> > In 2016, the Chicago Tribune reported that the Windy City had been similarly targeted due to its crime problems. The nonprofit’s CEO, Dwight Hall, explained his reasoning for the mass mailings: “The biggest thing is [the donors] can help somebody to have a better way of life. That’s the whole reason for this,” he said.
> >
> > Better in what way, though? What succor can Portlanders troubled by random dog attacks and squatters’ den fires hope to take from The Great Controversy, written by Ellen G. White? The book purports to be a consideration of the growing influence of the Catholic Church on American life (a spicy topic in 1858) before pivoting to White’s contention that the most violent divide among Christians will soon be whether the Sabbath falls on Saturday or Sunday."
> >
> > https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2023/05/13/a-michigan-nonprofit-is-blanketing-portland-in-religious-literature/
> >
> > But, but, but, I don't even live in Portland, and I'm a heathen who can't decide if everyday is a sabbath day, or none of them. After I glanced at it to see what it was about I tossed my copy in the trash. Where it belonged.
> >
> > TB
> Do you do that with the Qur'an and then boast about it, too? Just
> wondering how far your tolerant Paganism goes.

I am not totally opposed to other religions. I was raised as a Christian. I have known people from just about any religious tradition you can name and liked some of them. BUT, as practiced, many religions tend to be toxic. Any religious material that is thrust on me when I wasn't looking for it is likely to end up in the trash. When I find religious material that was randomly scattered around I'm likely to behave like someone who is concerned about the environment I live in and place it in an appropriate receptacle.

TB

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Technobarbarian <technobarbarian@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 10:38:32 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
>> On 5/14/2023 10:39 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:17:59 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>> 'The Great Controversy (book)
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Controversy_(book)
>>>>
>>>> I got a copy of this book today. I don't know why. It's addressed to
>>>> me or current resident. Most likely it;s because I'm a registered
>>>> Democrat, but it could be from the time I was a Republican. (That was
>>>> a horrible experience.)
>>>>
>>>> "In addition to the major Adventist publishing houses, the book has
>>>> also been printed and distributed by various independent initiatives.
>>>> Remnant Publications sent more than 350,000 copies of the book to
>>>> residents of Charlotte, North Carolina in 2014, after having already
>>>> sent a million books to people in Manhattan and over 300,000 to people
>>>> in Washington, D.C"
>>>>
>>>> My copy came from those guys. Sticks should contact these guys for a
>>>> copy of their book because;
>>>>
>>>> ""Above all, the book will point you to the One who alone can satisfy
>>>> the deepest longing of your heart, and who will ultimately end the
>>>> controversy between good and evil."
>>>>
>>>> Oh my goodness gracious, blessed CERTAINTY! What could be wrong with that? LOL
>>>
>>> "A Michigan Nonprofit Is Blanketing Portland in Religious Literature
>>> Remnant Publications has previously targeted other cities it believes
>>> to be plagued by social problems."
>>>
>>> By Lucas Manfield
>>> May 13, 2023 at 6:44 pm PDT
>>> Portlanders of all stripes have opened their mailboxes in the past week
>>> to find, to their surprise, an unsolicited copy of The Great Controversy.
>>>
>>> The 473-page paperback book authored by the founder of the Seventh-day
>>> Adventist Church promises to tell the “untold story behind the
>>> Vatican’s rising influence in America.” It was written in 1858, and is
>>> now being mass distributed by a 34-year-old family-run nonprofit in
>>> Coldwater, Mich., that has made a habit of blanketing cities across the
>>> United States with evangelizing texts.
>>>
>>> As a nonprofit, Remnant enjoys “significantly reduced” postage rates
>>> from the U.S. Postal Service, which is already substantially subsidized
>>> by taxpayers. (USPS reported a $1 billion loss in January alone.)
>>
>>> But the unsolicited gifts have annoyed many Portlanders, who have taken
>>> to social media to decry the waste of paper and postage.
>>>
>>> Portland is only Remnant’s latest target. A webpage on its website
>>> solicits donations to the “Great Controversy Project,” which “helps
>>> Remnant Publications do mass distributions of The Great Controversy in
>>> major cities and even whole states across North America.”
>>>
>>> It raised $8 million in 2020 and paid a total of $140,000 in income to
>>> the three men who run it, according to its latest public filing with
>>> the Internal Revenue Service.
>>>
>>> Remnant Publications has previously sent millions of copies of the book
>>> to Chicago, Philadelphia and New York. Most recently, its blanketed ZIP
>>> codes in West Virginia and Vermont. Now, it has shifted focus to Portland.
>>>
>>> “Will you please help Remnant Publications place this precious book in
>>> the hands of dear souls in Portland, OR?” the website asks, before
>>> soliciting a $1,000 donation.
>>>
>>> Remnant Publications did not return a request for comment. But
>>> Portland’s selection may not be random.
>>>
>>> In 2016, the Chicago Tribune reported that the Windy City had been
>>> similarly targeted due to its crime problems. The nonprofit’s CEO,
>>> Dwight Hall, explained his reasoning for the mass mailings: “The
>>> biggest thing is [the donors] can help somebody to have a better way of
>>> life. That’s the whole reason for this,” he said.
>>>
>>> Better in what way, though? What succor can Portlanders troubled by
>>> random dog attacks and squatters’ den fires hope to take from The Great
>>> Controversy, written by Ellen G. White? The book purports to be a
>>> consideration of the growing influence of the Catholic Church on
>>> American life (a spicy topic in 1858) before pivoting to White’s
>>> contention that the most violent divide among Christians will soon be
>>> whether the Sabbath falls on Saturday or Sunday."
>>>
>>> https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2023/05/13/a-michigan-nonprofit-is-blanketing-portland-in-religious-literature/
>>>
>>>
>>> But, but, but, I don't even live in Portland, and I'm a heathen who
>>> can't decide if everyday is a sabbath day, or none of them. After I
>>> glanced at it to see what it was about I tossed my copy in the trash. Where it belonged.
>>>
>>> TB
>> Do you do that with the Qur'an and then boast about it, too? Just
>> wondering how far your tolerant Paganism goes.
>
> I am not totally opposed to other religions. I was raised as a
> Christian. I have known people from just about any religious tradition
> you can name and liked some of them. BUT, as practiced, many religions
> tend to be toxic. Any religious material that is thrust on me when I
> wasn't looking for it is likely to end up in the trash. When I find
> religious material that was randomly scattered around I'm likely to
> behave like someone who is concerned about the environment I live in and
> place it in an appropriate receptacle.
>
> TB
>

But it’s okay for the LGBTQABCLMNOPXYZ community to thrust their BS on all
of us who aren’t looking for it. Go crack open a cold Bud Lite and rethink
your unexplainable allegiance to the terminally sick liberal nut cases.

--
Liberals suffer from cognitive dissonance. They know their political views
are wrong but they stick with them anyway.

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Subject: Re: The Great Controversy (book)
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 by: Technobarbarian - Mon, 15 May 2023 16:10 UTC

On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 7:08:01 AM UTC-7, George.Anthony wrote:
> Technobarbarian <technob...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 10:38:32 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
> >> On 5/14/2023 10:39 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, May 11, 2023 at 7:17:59 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
> >>>> 'The Great Controversy (book)
> >>>>
> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Controversy_(book)
> >>>>
> >>>> I got a copy of this book today. I don't know why. It's addressed to
> >>>> me or current resident. Most likely it;s because I'm a registered
> >>>> Democrat, but it could be from the time I was a Republican. (That was
> >>>> a horrible experience.)
> >>>>
> >>>> "In addition to the major Adventist publishing houses, the book has
> >>>> also been printed and distributed by various independent initiatives..
> >>>> Remnant Publications sent more than 350,000 copies of the book to
> >>>> residents of Charlotte, North Carolina in 2014, after having already
> >>>> sent a million books to people in Manhattan and over 300,000 to people
> >>>> in Washington, D.C"
> >>>>
> >>>> My copy came from those guys. Sticks should contact these guys for a
> >>>> copy of their book because;
> >>>>
> >>>> ""Above all, the book will point you to the One who alone can satisfy
> >>>> the deepest longing of your heart, and who will ultimately end the
> >>>> controversy between good and evil."
> >>>>
> >>>> Oh my goodness gracious, blessed CERTAINTY! What could be wrong with that? LOL
> >>>
> >>> "A Michigan Nonprofit Is Blanketing Portland in Religious Literature
> >>> Remnant Publications has previously targeted other cities it believes
> >>> to be plagued by social problems."
> >>>
> >>> By Lucas Manfield
> >>> May 13, 2023 at 6:44 pm PDT
> >>> Portlanders of all stripes have opened their mailboxes in the past week
> >>> to find, to their surprise, an unsolicited copy of The Great Controversy.
> >>>
> >>> The 473-page paperback book authored by the founder of the Seventh-day
> >>> Adventist Church promises to tell the “untold story behind the
> >>> Vatican’s rising influence in America.” It was written in 1858, and is
> >>> now being mass distributed by a 34-year-old family-run nonprofit in
> >>> Coldwater, Mich., that has made a habit of blanketing cities across the
> >>> United States with evangelizing texts.
> >>>
> >>> As a nonprofit, Remnant enjoys “significantly reduced” postage rates
> >>> from the U.S. Postal Service, which is already substantially subsidized
> >>> by taxpayers. (USPS reported a $1 billion loss in January alone.)
> >>
> >>> But the unsolicited gifts have annoyed many Portlanders, who have taken
> >>> to social media to decry the waste of paper and postage.
> >>>
> >>> Portland is only Remnant’s latest target. A webpage on its website
> >>> solicits donations to the “Great Controversy Project,” which “helps
> >>> Remnant Publications do mass distributions of The Great Controversy in
> >>> major cities and even whole states across North America.”
> >>>
> >>> It raised $8 million in 2020 and paid a total of $140,000 in income to
> >>> the three men who run it, according to its latest public filing with
> >>> the Internal Revenue Service.
> >>>
> >>> Remnant Publications has previously sent millions of copies of the book
> >>> to Chicago, Philadelphia and New York. Most recently, its blanketed ZIP
> >>> codes in West Virginia and Vermont. Now, it has shifted focus to Portland.
> >>>
> >>> “Will you please help Remnant Publications place this precious book in
> >>> the hands of dear souls in Portland, OR?” the website asks, before
> >>> soliciting a $1,000 donation.
> >>>
> >>> Remnant Publications did not return a request for comment. But
> >>> Portland’s selection may not be random.
> >>>
> >>> In 2016, the Chicago Tribune reported that the Windy City had been
> >>> similarly targeted due to its crime problems. The nonprofit’s CEO,
> >>> Dwight Hall, explained his reasoning for the mass mailings: “The
> >>> biggest thing is [the donors] can help somebody to have a better way of
> >>> life. That’s the whole reason for this,” he said.
> >>>
> >>> Better in what way, though? What succor can Portlanders troubled by
> >>> random dog attacks and squatters’ den fires hope to take from The Great
> >>> Controversy, written by Ellen G. White? The book purports to be a
> >>> consideration of the growing influence of the Catholic Church on
> >>> American life (a spicy topic in 1858) before pivoting to White’s
> >>> contention that the most violent divide among Christians will soon be
> >>> whether the Sabbath falls on Saturday or Sunday."
> >>>
> >>> https://www.wweek.com/news/courts/2023/05/13/a-michigan-nonprofit-is-blanketing-portland-in-religious-literature/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> But, but, but, I don't even live in Portland, and I'm a heathen who
> >>> can't decide if everyday is a sabbath day, or none of them. After I
> >>> glanced at it to see what it was about I tossed my copy in the trash. Where it belonged.
> >>>
> >>> TB
> >> Do you do that with the Qur'an and then boast about it, too? Just
> >> wondering how far your tolerant Paganism goes.
> >
> > I am not totally opposed to other religions. I was raised as a
> > Christian. I have known people from just about any religious tradition
> > you can name and liked some of them. BUT, as practiced, many religions
> > tend to be toxic. Any religious material that is thrust on me when I
> > wasn't looking for it is likely to end up in the trash. When I find
> > religious material that was randomly scattered around I'm likely to
> > behave like someone who is concerned about the environment I live in and
> > place it in an appropriate receptacle.
> >
> > TB
> >
> But it’s okay for the LGBTQABCLMNOPXYZ community to thrust their BS on all
> of us who aren’t looking for it. Go crack open a cold Bud Lite and rethink
> your unexplainable allegiance to the terminally sick liberal nut cases.
>
> --
> Liberals suffer from cognitive dissonance. They know their political views
> are wrong but they stick with them anyway.

I only decide what is right for one person. Unlike our radical lol "conservatives", I believe in freedom of expression. If you don't want to see or hear any of it, how you deal with it is your decision.

TB


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