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|                   +* Russian Deaths in UkraineAdam H. Kerman
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From: le@main.lekno.ws (Louis Epstein)
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Re: Russian Deaths in Ukraine
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 19:02:22 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Louis Epstein - Mon, 7 Aug 2023 19:02 UTC

Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>
>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>
>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>
>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>
>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>
>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>
> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>
>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>
>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I DO NOT HAVE THE URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>
>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>
>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>
>>>> 2482,
>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>
>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>> 67 colonels,
>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another was reclassified),
>>> 323 majors,
>>> 452 captains.
>>>
>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>> Russian sources).
>>
>> 2586 total,
>> 69 colonels,
>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>> 328 majors,
>> 457 captains.
>
> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.


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From: le@main.lekno.ws (Louis Epstein)
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Subject: Re: Russian Deaths in Ukraine
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2023 06:35:02 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Louis Epstein - Wed, 16 Aug 2023 06:35 UTC

Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>>
>>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>>
>>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>
>>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>
>>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>>
>> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/

255,000 deaths were reached on day 539:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>>
>>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2482,
>>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>>
>>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>>> 67 colonels,
>>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another was reclassified),
>>>> 323 majors,
>>>> 452 captains.
>>>>
>>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>>> Russian sources).
>>>
>>> 2586 total,
>>> 69 colonels,
>>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>>> 328 majors,
>>> 457 captains.
>>
>> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
>> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.
>
> (A catchup spurt takes it to 2633,
> 170 lt-cols,332 majors,460 captains.)


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Subject: Re: Russian Deaths in Ukraine
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:06:09 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Louis Epstein - Sat, 26 Aug 2023 08:06 UTC

Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>>
>>>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>>
>>>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>>>
>>> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
>
> 255,000 deaths were reached on day 539:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/

260,000 deaths were reached on day 549:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/26/7417174/


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2482,
>>>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>>>> 67 colonels,
>>>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another was reclassified),
>>>>> 323 majors,
>>>>> 452 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>>>> Russian sources).
>>>>
>>>> 2586 total,
>>>> 69 colonels,
>>>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>>>> 328 majors,
>>>> 457 captains.
>>>
>>> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
>>> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.
>>
>> (A catchup spurt takes it to 2633,
>> 170 lt-cols,332 majors,460 captains.)
>
> 2668 total,
> 173 lt-cols,338 majors,464 captains.


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Subject: Re: Russian Deaths in Ukraine
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2023 01:53:04 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Louis Epstein - Sat, 2 Sep 2023 01:53 UTC

Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>>>
>>>>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>>>>
>>>> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
>>
>> 255,000 deaths were reached on day 539:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/
>
> 260,000 deaths were reached on day 549:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/26/7417174/
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>>>>


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 by: Louis Epstein - Mon, 4 Sep 2023 08:52 UTC

Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>>>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>>>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>>>>>
>>>>> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
>>>
>>> 255,000 deaths were reached on day 539:
>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/
>>

265,000 deaths were reached on day 558:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/4/7418300/
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked additions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and some of these a year in arrears before being identified),392
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>>>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>>>>>
>
> And August 31 to 2751,it gets hard to track...
> I am mainly updating from the Googledoc.
>
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died together
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),145 LtCols,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2482,
>>>>>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>>>>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>>>>>> 67 colonels,
>>>>>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another was reclassified),
>>>>>>> 323 majors,
>>>>>>> 452 captains.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>>>>>> Russian sources).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2586 total,
>>>>>> 69 colonels,
>>>>>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>>>>>> 328 majors,
>>>>>> 457 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
>>>>> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.
>>>>
>>>> (A catchup spurt takes it to 2633,
>>>> 170 lt-cols,332 majors,460 captains.)
>>>
>>> 2668 total,
>>> 173 lt-cols,338 majors,464 captains.
>>
>> 2713 total,
>> 71 colonels,342 majors,473 captains (no new lieutenant colonels this time).
>
> Now 2753,so 40 more since that update.
> LtCols are up to 176,Majors to 345,Captains to 476.
> Only difference from the graphic update is 2 more Senior Lieutenants(798).


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Subject: Re: Russian Deaths in Ukraine
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 06:24:31 -0000 (UTC)
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Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread noted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than American losses in Vietnam,though less than the Russians
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was passed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>>>>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>>>>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
>>>>
>>>> 255,000 deaths were reached on day 539:
>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/
>>>
>> 260,000 deaths were reached on day 549:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/26/7417174/
>
> 265,000 deaths were reached on day 558:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/4/7418300/

270,000 deaths were reached on day 567:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/13/7419575/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additions and some of these a year in arrears before being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identified),392 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>>>>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>>>>>>
>>
>> And August 31 to 2751,it gets hard to track...
>> I am mainly updating from the Googledoc.
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together in a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 145 LtCols,279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>>>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>>>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2482,
>>>>>>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>>>>>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>>>>>>> 67 colonels,
>>>>>>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another was reclassified),
>>>>>>>> 323 majors,
>>>>>>>> 452 captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>>>>>>> Russian sources).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2586 total,
>>>>>>> 69 colonels,
>>>>>>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>>>>>>> 328 majors,
>>>>>>> 457 captains.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
>>>>>> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.
>>>>>
>>>>> (A catchup spurt takes it to 2633,
>>>>> 170 lt-cols,332 majors,460 captains.)
>>>>
>>>> 2668 total,
>>>> 173 lt-cols,338 majors,464 captains.
>>>
>>> 2713 total,
>>> 71 colonels,342 majors,473 captains (no new lieutenant colonels this time).
>>
>> Now 2753,so 40 more since that update.
>> LtCols are up to 176,Majors to 345,Captains to 476.
>> Only difference from the graphic update is 2 more Senior Lieutenants(798).
>
> 2756 with 346 majors.


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Subject: Re: Russian Deaths in Ukraine
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 by: Louis Epstein - Sat, 23 Sep 2023 06:55 UTC

Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noted, than American losses in Vietnam,though less than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Russians lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passed on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>>>>>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>>>>>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
>>>>>
>>>>> 255,000 deaths were reached on day 539:
>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/
>>>>
>>> 260,000 deaths were reached on day 549:
>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/26/7417174/
>>
>> 265,000 deaths were reached on day 558:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/4/7418300/
>
> 270,000 deaths were reached on day 567:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/13/7419575/


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Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:

>>. . .

>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/

What is the real number thought to be, double?

Do they even pretend to report casualties or do they track casualties to
see who dies of his wound later, just not on the battlefield?

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Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>
>>>. . .
>
>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>
> What is the real number thought to be, double?

I think you mean half?
> Do they even pretend to report casualties or do they track casualties to
> see who dies of his wound later, just not on the battlefield?

I am reporting the Ukrainian government numbers for dead Russians,
and the Czech-based @KilledInUkraine group's numbers of identified,
dated deaths of Russian officers.One number is likely high and the
other low compared to reality but I'm preserving the statistical
sequences.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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In article <ueocdr$rck$2@reader2.panix.com>,
Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>
>>>>. . .
>>
>>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>>
>> What is the real number thought to be, double?
>
>I think you mean half?

If the number came from the Russians, you'd expect it to be low (i.e., the
real number might be double the reported number). But, based on your most
recent post, it seems the data comes from the Ukrainian side - and they
might be exaggerating for their own propagandist reasons.

But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
wouldn't lie, would they?

--
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Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:

>>>>>. . .

>>>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/

>>>What is the real number thought to be, double?

>>I think you mean half?

>If the number came from the Russians, you'd expect it to be low (i.e., the
>real number might be double the reported number). But, based on your most
>recent post, it seems the data comes from the Ukrainian side - and they
>might be exaggerating for their own propagandist reasons.

>But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>wouldn't lie, would they?

I'll regret asking: Why don't they have the right to defend against
invasion by a foreign army?

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 by: Kenny McCormack - Sun, 24 Sep 2023 22:20 UTC

In article <ueq0da$1fjjq$2@dont-email.me>,
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
....
>>But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>>wouldn't lie, would they?
>
>I'll regret asking: Why don't they have the right to defend against
>invasion by a foreign army?

I sincerely have no idea where this question is coming from. I'm assuming,
perhaps incorrectly, that it is directed towards me and that you, for some
reason, think I am anti-Ukraine (and anti-US aid to Ukraine).

I'll just say that nothing could be further from the truth, and leave it at
that.

--
"Remember when teachers, public employees, Planned Parenthood, NPR and PBS
crashed the stock market, wiped out half of our 401Ks, took trillions in
TARP money, spilled oil in the Gulf of Mexico, gave themselves billions in
bonuses, and paid no taxes? Yeah, me neither."

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Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>...
>>>But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>>>wouldn't lie, would they?

>>I'll regret asking: Why don't they have the right to defend against
>>invasion by a foreign army?

>I sincerely have no idea where this question is coming from. I'm assuming,
>perhaps incorrectly, that it is directed towards me and that you, for some
>reason, think I am anti-Ukraine (and anti-US aid to Ukraine).

>I'll just say that nothing could be further from the truth, and leave it at
>that.

You wrote ""Good Guys" (from our POV)" implying, somehow, that there
could be a moral judgment that defending themselves isn't good. That's
what I am questioning.

It's a generally held position that defending against an invasion is
expected behavior and that there's nothing controversial about it and
certainly not against international law. It's not just my belief.

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 by: Louis Epstein - Sun, 24 Sep 2023 22:48 UTC

Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
> In article <ueocdr$rck$2@reader2.panix.com>,
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>. . .
>>>
>>>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>>>
>>> What is the real number thought to be, double?
>>
>>I think you mean half?
>
> If the number came from the Russians, you'd expect it to be low (i.e., the
> real number might be double the reported number). But, based on your most
> recent post, it seems the data comes from the Ukrainian side - and they
> might be exaggerating for their own propagandist reasons.
>
> But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
> wouldn't lie, would they?

They're certainly the good guys,but may have incentive to propagandize
just as the Russians do.
In any case the officer-deaths numbers are as likely to err on the
low side as the total-deaths numbers are to err on the high.
The Ukrainian total-death numbers are released daily (I only post
when a 5,000 multiple is passed) and are presumably current,the
officer-death numbers gleaned from Russian sources can be months
after the fact.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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 by: Kenny McCormack - Sun, 24 Sep 2023 23:39 UTC

In article <ueqebu$kav$1@reader2.panix.com>,
Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
....
>> But they (the Ukrainians) are the "Good Guys" (from our POV), so they
>> wouldn't lie, would they?

>They're certainly the good guys,but may have incentive to propagandize
>just as the Russians do.

Exactly. You understood the gist of my post. Well done.

--
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(Andrew) Johnson, Buchanan, or Trump
When polled for who is/was the best US president, the candidates (i.e. popular responses/suggestions) are usually:
FDR, Lincoln, or Trump

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 by: Kenny McCormack - Sun, 24 Sep 2023 23:41 UTC

In article <ueqdk0$1ht4b$1@dont-email.me>,
Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
....
>You wrote ""Good Guys" (from our POV)" implying, somehow, that there
>could be a moral judgment that defending themselves isn't good. That's
>what I am questioning.

Well, I doubt they are considered the good guys by the Russian
state/military apparatus...

But, yeah, most of the rest of the world does so consider them.

Except for a lot of whackos in the US GOP, of course!

--
2023: The hottest summer of your life (so far...)

2023: (Also) The coolest summer of the rest of your life.

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 by: Adam H. Kerman - Mon, 25 Sep 2023 00:54 UTC

Kenny McCormack <gazelle@shell.xmission.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:

>...
>>You wrote ""Good Guys" (from our POV)" implying, somehow, that there
>>could be a moral judgment that defending themselves isn't good. That's
>>what I am questioning.

>Well, I doubt they are considered the good guys by the Russian
>state/military apparatus...

>But, yeah, most of the rest of the world does so consider them.

>Except for a lot of whackos in the US GOP, of course!

Fair enough

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 by: Louis Epstein - Sat, 30 Sep 2023 00:29 UTC

Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>
>>>. . .
>
>>275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>
> What is the real number thought to be, double?
>
> Do they even pretend to report casualties or do they track casualties to
> see who dies of his wound later, just not on the battlefield?

Russian media are claiming that 33,236 have died,
and officially 234 officers:

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/29/7422028/
(The Russian govenrment only admits to something over 6000
but doesn't issue formal reports any more)

The Ukrainians say the number is 277,660:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/29/7421894/

The latest KIU number of Russian officers dead
verified from Russian sources and named is 2,898,
1 2-star general
5 1-star generals
74 colonels
178 lieutenant-colonels
356 majors
497 captains
843 senior lieutenants
515 lieutenants
52 junior lieutenants
144 reserve/retired senior officers
147 reserve/retired junior officers
86 "other rank and unknown rank"

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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 by: Louis Epstein - Thu, 5 Oct 2023 08:10 UTC

Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th day
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old thread
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> noted, than American losses in Vietnam,though less than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Russians lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passed on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>>>>>>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>>>>>>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 255,000 deaths were reached on day 539:
>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/
>>>>>
>>>> 260,000 deaths were reached on day 549:
>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/26/7417174/
>>>
>>> 265,000 deaths were reached on day 558:
>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/4/7418300/
>>
>> 270,000 deaths were reached on day 567:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/13/7419575/
>
> 275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/

280,000 deaths were reached on day 589:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/5/7422709/
(a notable slowing of pace)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The @KilledinUkraine Twitter account hasn't updated their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graphic since the 2,000 mark of verified dead Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officers was reached on March 28th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But the steadily updated Googledoc has reached 2046:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 54 colonels,138 lieutenant colonels,268 Majors,375 captains
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic updated today to 2,085,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 139 LtCols,265 Majors,387 Captains...no new colonels.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic says 2,111 dead as of April 27,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2,117 with 273 majors (no higher ranked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> additions and some of these a year in arrears before being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> identified),392 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc is up to 2128 with the 141 LtCols,no new majors,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 395 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now 2160 dead as of May 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic now updated May 31 with 2222 dead.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not updated since.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but the June 13 update and other sources
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (with the number now on par with the Googledoc though the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latter could get updated at any time)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have not only reached 2288 officers total...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graphic not yet updated again...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2363 as of June 21...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Newest version of the graphic,visible as a thumbnail if one
>>>>>>>>>>> checks the Googledoc,has 2445 total.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apparently updated July 19 to 2529...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And August 31 to 2751,it gets hard to track...
>>>> I am mainly updating from the Googledoc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Googledoc now 2185,with 56 Colonels (the two new ones died
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together in a Ukrainian strike,others may have been present too),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 145 LtCols,279 Majors,407 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2210,with 146 LtCols,281 Majors,415 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2230,with 149 LtCols,285 Majors,416 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2253 with 58 colonels,153 LtCols,286 Majors,418 Captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...but confirmed the death of the first general officer in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a year,5th overall after false/unconfirmed reports were deleted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like the others serving as a one-star.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now 60 colonels,153 ltcols,289 majors,419 captains...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now 2319 total...61 colonels,157 lt-cols,292 majors,423 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now 2383 total,up to 161 LtCols,296 majors,430 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> URL FOR THE GOOGLEDOC,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I found it through a third-party site...
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1InyFVmu1LoSjqcWTHe4iD9cR8CNiL-5Ke5JizMlwc
>>>>>>>>>>>> (actually was in a browser memory here too).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2479 total
>>>>>>>>>>>> 64 colonels,167 LtCols,316 majors,441 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2482,
>>>>>>>>>>> 442 captains and no higher new deaths.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1 2-star general (Oleg Tsokov,a deputy military district commander),
>>>>>>>>>> 5 1-stars (none new since Goryachev),
>>>>>>>>>> 67 colonels,
>>>>>>>>>> 167 Lieutenant-colonels (one apparently new after another
>>>>>>>>>> was reclassified),
>>>>>>>>>> 323 majors,
>>>>>>>>>> 452 captains.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (The site that reports these verifies names/ranks/dates from
>>>>>>>>>> Russian sources).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2586 total,
>>>>>>>>> 69 colonels,
>>>>>>>>> 169 lieutenant-colonels,
>>>>>>>>> 328 majors,
>>>>>>>>> 457 captains.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Stalled for the last couple of days at 2606 total,
>>>>>>>> 330 majors the only item updated from above set.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (A catchup spurt takes it to 2633,
>>>>>>> 170 lt-cols,332 majors,460 captains.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2668 total,
>>>>>> 173 lt-cols,338 majors,464 captains.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2713 total,
>>>>> 71 colonels,342 majors,473 captains (no new lieutenant colonels this time).
>>>>
>>>> Now 2753,so 40 more since that update.
>>>> LtCols are up to 176,Majors to 345,Captains to 476.
>>>> Only difference from the graphic update is 2 more Senior Lieutenants(798).
>>>
>>> 2756 with 346 majors.
>>
>> 2802 with
>> 73 colonels,177 lt-cols,349 majors,483 captains.
>
> 2857 with
> 74 colonels,178 lt-cols,353 majors,490 captains.


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As y'all continue to so diligently tally the war's mounting body-count--anyone meanwhile bother to correspondingly add up all the cloned "angle-brackets" amassed thus far in this lengthy, carets-littered thread?--I shall remind you of what fading GOP hopeful Ron DeSantis so astutely stated awhile back: we [America] don't have a dog in this fight.*

BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
==================* Or at least shouldn't, in the view of both myself and the guy I twice helped send to the Guv's mansion in Tallahassee.

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On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 3:23:58 PM UTC-7, radioacti...@gmail.com wrote:
> As y'all continue to so diligently tally the war's mounting body-count-

History has shown that countries at war have often exaggerated the number of enemy soldiers killed. That has been true for thousands of years. So it is quite bizarre that this thread is relying solely on Ukrainian sources while ignoring other intelligence sources.
The best way to estimate the number of Russian soldiers killed is to use a variety of sources. A variety of intelligence agencies are more likely to provide accurate estimates of Russian casualties.

Google:
As of October 6, 2023, the US intelligence community has estimated that between 70,000 and 80,000 Russian soldiers have been killed, while the UK Ministry of Defense has estimated that between 50,000 and 75,000 Russian soldiers have been killed.

Swiss estimate of 55,000-65,000 Russian soldiers killed in the Ukraine war is as of October 2023. The estimate was published in the Swiss Federal Intelligence Service's (FIS) 2023 report on the global security situation, which was released in September 2023.

The FIS's estimate is based on the latest intelligence available to them, including intelligence intercepts, open-source reporting, and satellite imagery.

So we have multiple sources estimating that up to 80,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. While Ukrainian sources are claiming nearly 300,000.

The Swiss, UK and US numbers (~60,000-80,000) are in close agreement and are far more credible than the highly inflated Ukrainian claims of nearly 300,000.

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 by: Louis Epstein - Fri, 6 Oct 2023 17:16 UTC

radioacti...@gmail.com <radioactiveseattle@gmail.com> wrote:
> As y'all continue to so diligently tally the war's mounting
> body-count--anyone meanwhile bother to correspondingly add up all the cloned
> "angle-brackets" amassed thus far in this lengthy, carets-littered thread?

Are you asking for cross-posts to alt.cascade?

> --I shall remind you of what fading GOP hopeful Ron DeSantis so astutely
> stated awhile back: we [America] don't have a dog in this fight.*

And I shall respond that anyone who supports the post-WW II international
order that "borders must not be changed by force" has a strong vested
interest in ensuring that Russia is left with nothing to show for its
aggression.

> BRYAN STYBLE/Florida
> ===================
> * Or at least shouldn't, in the view of both myself and the guy I twice
> helped send to the Guv's mansion in Tallahassee.

-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.

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 by: Raul TW - Sat, 7 Oct 2023 00:15 UTC

On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:42:56 AM UTC-7, Raul TW wrote:

> So we have multiple sources estimating that up to 80,000 Russian soldiers have been killed. While Ukrainian sources are claiming nearly > 300,000.
>
> The Swiss, UK and US numbers (~60,000-80,000) are in close agreement and are far more credible than the highly inflated Ukrainian claims of nearly 300,000.

No independent credible sources have substantiated the Ukrainian claim of nearly 300,000 Russian soldiers killed. This suggests that the claim by Ukraine is likely inaccurate and highly exaggerated.

According to estimates by U.S., U.K., and Swiss intelligence, 60,000-80,000 Russian soldiers have been killed.

These numbers are also in line with estimates by a German University working with independent Russian media outlets.

BRUSSELS (AP) — Nearly 50,000 Russian men have died in the war in Ukraine, according to the first independent statistical analysis of Russia’s war dead.

Two independent Russian media outlets, Mediazona and Meduza, working with a data scientist from Germany’s Tübingen University, used Russian government data to shed light on one of Moscow’s closest-held secrets — the true human cost of its invasion of Ukraine.

To do so, they relied on a statistical concept popularized during the COVID-19 pandemic called excess mortality. Drawing on inheritance records and official mortality data, they estimated how many more men under age 50 died between February 2022 and May 2023 than normal.

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Subject: Re: Russian Deaths in Ukraine
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Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread noted, than American losses in Vietnam,though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less than the Russians lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passed on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>>>>>>>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>>>>>>>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 255,000 deaths were reached on day 539:
>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/
>>>>>>
>>>>> 260,000 deaths were reached on day 549:
>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/26/7417174/
>>>>
>>>> 265,000 deaths were reached on day 558:
>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/4/7418300/
>>>
>>> 270,000 deaths were reached on day 567:
>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/13/7419575/
>>
>> 275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>
> 280,000 deaths were reached on day 589:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/5/7422709/
> (a notable slowing of pace)

285,000 deaths were reached on day 597:
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/13/7423932/
(the pace picking up again)


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Subject: Re: Russian Deaths in Ukraine
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Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@main.lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Louis Epstein <le@lekno.ws> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something seems to have made old messages & threads
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inaccessible at Panix?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Apparently it was a massive dump of binaries erasing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the news server's scroll)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In any case,the reported (by Ukraine) number of Russian
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> military deaths in Ukraine passed 175,000 on the 404th
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day of the invasion (a much bloodier pace,as my old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread noted, than American losses in Vietnam,though
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less than the Russians lost against Napoleon or Hitler).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/7396148/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite a slowing of pace,the 180,000 death mark was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passed on day 413:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/12/7397476/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 185,000 deaths were reached on day 422:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/21/7398803/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 190,000 deaths were reached on day 430:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/04/29/7399953/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 195,000 deaths were reached on day 440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/9/7401282/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 200,000 deaths were reached on day 448:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/17/7402549/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [URL CORRECTED ABOVE]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 205,000 deaths were reached on day 456:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/25/7403758/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 210,000 deaths were reached on day 467:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/5/7405302/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 215,000 deaths were reached on day 473:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/11/7406323/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Day 476 number is 217,330...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 220,000 deaths were reached on day 481:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/19/7407431/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 225,000 deaths were reached on day 488:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/06/26/7408522/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 230,000 deaths were reached on day 495:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/3/7409573/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Day-500 number is 233,440:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/8/7410406/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 235,000 deaths were reached on day 503:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/11/7410752/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> These numbers are released by the Ukrainian military and can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be taken for overestimates if one so desires,but I will continue
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to post the statistical sequence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 240,000 deaths were reached on day 512:
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/20/7412104/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 245,000 deaths were reached on day 521:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/07/29/7413339/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 250,000 deaths were reached on day 530:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/7/7414477/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 255,000 deaths were reached on day 539:
>>>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/16/7415751/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 260,000 deaths were reached on day 549:
>>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/08/26/7417174/
>>>>>
>>>>> 265,000 deaths were reached on day 558:
>>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/4/7418300/
>>>>
>>>> 270,000 deaths were reached on day 567:
>>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/13/7419575/
>>>
>>> 275,000 deaths were reached on day 577:
>>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/09/23/7421080/
>>
>> 280,000 deaths were reached on day 589:
>> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/5/7422709/
>> (a notable slowing of pace)
>
> 285,000 deaths were reached on day 597:
> https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/10/13/7423932/
> (the pace picking up again)


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