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* Republicans' excess death rate spiked after COVID-19 vaccines arrivedTechnobarbarian
+- Republicans' excess death rate spiked after COVID-19 vaccines arrivedrobert caprel
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Subject: Republicans' excess death rate spiked after COVID-19 vaccines arrived
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 by: Technobarbarian - Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:21 UTC

Yeah, a bunch of freakin" geniuses.

"Republicans' excess death rate spiked after COVID-19 vaccines arrived, a study says"

"The pandemic inflicted higher rates of excess deaths on both Republicans and Democrats. But after COVID-19 vaccines arrived, Republican voters in Florida and Ohio died at a higher rate than their counterparts, according to a new study.

Researchers from Yale University who studied the pandemic's effects on those two states say that from the pandemic's start in March 2020 through December 2021, "excess mortality was significantly higher for Republican voters than Democratic voters after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults, but not before."

Pro-Trump counties continue to suffer far higher COVID death tolls
More specifically, the researchers say, their adjusted analysis found that "the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters" after vaccine eligibility was opened..

The different rates "were concentrated in counties with lower vaccination rates, and primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio," according to the study that was published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine on Monday.

It's the latest research to suggest the perils of mixing partisan politics with medical advice and health policy."

https://www.npr.org/2023/07/25/1189939229/covid-deaths-democrats-republicans-gap-study#:~:text=When%20coronavirus%20vaccine%20access%20widened,equating%20to%20a%2043%25%20gap.

TB

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Subject: Re: Republicans' excess death rate spiked after COVID-19 vaccines arrived
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 by: robert caprel - Mon, 31 Jul 2023 13:32 UTC

On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 5:21:33 PM UTC-7, Technobarbarian wrote:
> Yeah, a bunch of freakin" geniuses.
>
> "Republicans' excess death rate spiked after COVID-19 vaccines arrived, a study says"
>
> "The pandemic inflicted higher rates of excess deaths on both Republicans and Democrats. But after COVID-19 vaccines arrived, Republican voters in Florida and Ohio died at a higher rate than their counterparts, according to a new study.
>
> Researchers from Yale University who studied the pandemic's effects on those two states say that from the pandemic's start in March 2020 through December 2021, "excess mortality was significantly higher for Republican voters than Democratic voters after COVID-19 vaccines were available to all adults, but not before."
>
> Pro-Trump counties continue to suffer far higher COVID death tolls
> More specifically, the researchers say, their adjusted analysis found that "the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43% higher than the excess death rate among Democratic voters" after vaccine eligibility was opened.
>
> The different rates "were concentrated in counties with lower vaccination rates, and primarily noted in voters residing in Ohio," according to the study that was published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine on Monday.
>
> It's the latest research to suggest the perils of mixing partisan politics with medical advice and health policy."
>
> https://www.npr.org/2023/07/25/1189939229/covid-deaths-democrats-republicans-gap-study#:~:text=When%20coronavirus%20vaccine%20access%20widened,equating%20to%20a%2043%25%20gap.
>
> TB

Oh wow this Darwin thing really works!

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 by: sticks - Mon, 31 Jul 2023 18:11 UTC

On 7/30/2023 7:21 PM, TechnoBoob wrote:
>
> Yeah, a bunch of freakin" geniuses.
>
> "Republicans' excess death rate spiked after COVID-19 vaccines arrived, a study says"
>

You can use statistics to come up with just about any result you desire.
Especially when the people providing the data are known to have lied
about just about everything during this time. For example the article
still is talking about the use of masking in controlling the spread.
This has been proven to be false on many occasions. The issue of
importance is the pressure from the government, including pressuring
media sites to spread the now known lies, to get people to take the
vaccine. Forcing it upon people who had already gained natural immunity
to attend college, be in the military, or even the general public
workforce in companies with over a certain number of employees, all
while granting legal immunity to manufacturers of the drugs and the
medical community pushing it onto an unwilling group of people.

I am all for the people who want to take the vaccine to do so.
Especially democrats. Take all you can get your hands on.

BTW, here are some words from the authors of this joke of a statistical
analysis.
---

Limitations

Our study has several limitations. First, there are plausible
alternative explanations for the difference in excess death rates by
political party affiliation beyond the explanatory role of vaccines
discussed herein. Second, our mortality data, although detailed and
recent, only included approximately 83.5% of deaths in the US and did
not include cause of death. Although overall excess death patterns in
our data are similar to those in other reliable sources, such as the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention National Center for Health
Statistics data, it is possible that the deaths that our study data did
not include may disproportionately occur among individuals registered
with a particular political party, potentially biasing our results. In
addition, the completeness of our mortality data may vary across states
or time, potentially biasing our estimates of excess death rates. Third,
all excess death models rely on fundamentally untestable assumptions to
construct the baseline number of deaths we would expect in the absence
of the COVID-19 pandemic. Fourth, because we did not have information on
individual vaccination status, analyses of the association between
vaccination rates and excess deaths relied on county-level vaccination
rates. Fifth, our study was based on data from 2 states with readily
obtainable historical voter registration information (Florida and Ohio);
hence, our results may not generalize to other states.

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 by: robert caprel - Tue, 1 Aug 2023 13:11 UTC

On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:11:57 AM UTC-7, sticks wrote:
> On 7/30/2023 7:21 PM, TechnoBoob wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, a bunch of freakin" geniuses.
> >
> > "Republicans' excess death rate spiked after COVID-19 vaccines arrived, a study says"
> >
> You can use statistics to come up with just about any result you desire.
> Especially when the people providing the data are known to have lied
> about just about everything during this time. For example the article
> still is talking about the use of masking in controlling the spread.
> This has been proven to be false on many occasions. The issue of
> importance is the pressure from the government, including pressuring
> media sites to spread the now known lies, to get people to take the
> vaccine. Forcing it upon people who had already gained natural immunity
> to attend college, be in the military, or even the general public
> workforce in companies with over a certain number of employees, all
> while granting legal immunity to manufacturers of the drugs and the
> medical community pushing it onto an unwilling group of people.
>
> I am all for the people who want to take the vaccine to do so.
> Especially democrats. Take all you can get your hands on.
>
> BTW, here are some words from the authors of this joke of a statistical
> analysis.
>
> Limitations
>
> Our study has several limitations. First, there are plausible
> alternative explanations for the difference in excess death rates by
> political party affiliation beyond the explanatory role of vaccines
> discussed herein. Second, our mortality data, although detailed and
> recent, only included approximately 83.5% of deaths in the US and did
> not include cause of death. Although overall excess death patterns in
> our data are similar to those in other reliable sources, such as the
> Centers for Disease Control and Prevention National Center for Health
> Statistics data, it is possible that the deaths that our study data did
> not include may disproportionately occur among individuals registered
> with a particular political party, potentially biasing our results. In
> addition, the completeness of our mortality data may vary across states
> or time, potentially biasing our estimates of excess death rates. Third,
> all excess death models rely on fundamentally untestable assumptions to
> construct the baseline number of deaths we would expect in the absence
> of the COVID-19 pandemic. Fourth, because we did not have information on
> individual vaccination status, analyses of the association between
> vaccination rates and excess deaths relied on county-level vaccination
> rates. Fifth, our study was based on data from 2 states with readily
> obtainable historical voter registration information (Florida and Ohio);
> hence, our results may not generalize to other states.
>
Haw haw haw what a dope you are stick in the mud, I see you have not lost your edge on stupid, when 5 retarded Republicans die because they refuse to be vaccinated the statistics will say exactly that there are 5 fewer retards now


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