On 11/14/2023 5:51 AM, A Friend wrote:
> In article <rBSdnQe3cJMecs_4nZ2dnZfqn_sAAAAA@earthlink.com>, David
> Samuel Barr <dsbarr@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't know how you know the particular content
>> of what was shipped to Blish. I have nearly every
>> official reference work on Star Trek history
>> published since 1968 (which include reproductions
>> of the early show bibles and volumes of internal
>> memos) and don't ever recall coming across "The
>> Vulcan" in any of them, though if you can cite an
>> actual reference I'd certainly check it out.
>
>
> I did not know Blish; I knew the other two pretty well. The expression
> "The Vulcan" for the name of Spock's planet made it into the adaptation
> of "Tomorrow Is Yesterday," but I think I've mentioned that already.
> Again, it's in Kirk's dialogue when he introduces Capt. Christopher to
> Spock, and they've just done the bit about "little green men."
>
> I can't add anything past this.

It's actually a bit later than that point, when
they're past that introduction and Kirk et al
are discussing what to do about getting back to
their own time as well as what to do about
Christopher.

"Mr. Spock here tells me that he is half Vulcan.
Surely you can reach Vulcan from here. That’s
supposed to be just inside the orbit of Mercury.”
“There is no such solar planet as Vulcan,” Kirk
said. “Mr. Spock’s father was a native of The Vulcan,
which is a planet of 40 Eridani. Of course we could
reach that too…”

My point, which you snipped along with most of
my text, is that "The Vulcan" was likely Blish's
own error which Bantam's editor didn't yet know
enough to fix or, less likely, an error by D.C.
Fontana in the draft script from which Blish
worked which was deleted from the final filmed
version. I've never found it in any of the
"initial source materials" for the show that have
been released. And it still doesn't support the
idea that our planet's name is "The Earth" rather
than "Earth".

(Along that same line, Kirk's [and Christopher's]
title is "Captain" even though he is routinely
referred to throughout the series in third-person
as "the Captain". He is not "The Captain Kirk".)

A Friend wrote:
>David Samuel Barr <dsbarr@mindspring.com> wrote:

>>I don't know how you know the particular content
>>of what was shipped to Blish. I have nearly every
>>official reference work on Star Trek history
>>published since 1968 (which include reproductions
>>of the early show bibles and volumes of internal
>>memos) and don't ever recall coming across "The
>>Vulcan" in any of them, though if you can cite an
>>actual reference I'd certainly check it out.

>I did not know Blish; I knew the other two pretty well. The expression
>"The Vulcan" for the name of Spock's planet made it into the adaptation
>of "Tomorrow Is Yesterday," but I think I've mentioned that already.
>Again, it's in Kirk's dialogue when he introduces Capt. Christopher to
>Spock, and they've just done the bit about "little green men."

>I can't add anything past this.

I never understood how they had Roman gods.

Can't quote because of the charset issue,
but could there have been an unpreserved
stage of the text,poorly revised to what
is quoted,that said "the Vulcan homeworld
is a planet of 40 Eridani"?

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