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by: arthurvv vart - Wed, 31 Jan 2024 08:48 UTC

1) He was punished to obey the rules.
2) He was punished to make him obey the rules.

3) He was punished in order to obey the rules.
4) He was punished in order to make him obey the rules.

5)They were kidnapped to toil in mines.
6) They were kidnapped to make them toil in mines.

7)They were kidnapped in order to toil in mines.
8) They were kidnapped in order to make them toil in mines.

Which are grammatical and meaningful?

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Interested in strange structures
Obsessed with ambiguity

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by: Hibou - Wed, 31 Jan 2024 09:33 UTC

Le 31/01/2024 à 08:48, arthurvv vart a écrit :
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> 1) He was punished to obey the rules.
> 2) He was punished to make him obey the rules.

(2) not (1).

> 3) He was punished in order to obey the rules.
> 4) He was punished in order to make him obey the rules.

(4) not (3).

> 5) They were kidnapped to toil in mines.
> 6) They were kidnapped to make them toil in mines.

Neither. Obligatory toil is not a direct consequence of kidnapping; it's
a further step.

They were kidnapped and made to toil in mines.

> 7) They were kidnapped in order to toil in mines.
> 8) They were kidnapped in order to make them toil in mines.

(7) is perhaps a smidge better, but I'm unkeen. Let's be active...

He kidnapped them, intending to make them toil in mines.

> Which are grammatical and meaningful?
>
> Gratefully,
> Navi
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> Lost in the Twilight Zone of the English language
> Interested in strange structures
> Obsessed with ambiguity

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