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by: navi - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 07:49 UTC

1) I am talking to you as my lawyer.
2) I am talking to you as my lawyer, not as my brother.

3) I am talking to you as lawyer.
4) I am talking to you as lawyer, not as brother.

5) I am talking to you as brother.

6) John was talking to Jane as husband.
7) John was talking to Jane as wife.

Which are grammatical and meaningful and not absurd?

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Interested in strange structures
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by: Hibou - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 08:18 UTC

Le 01/03/2024 à 07:49, navi a écrit :
>
> 1) I am talking to you as my lawyer.
> 2) I am talking to you as my lawyer, not as my brother.

Fine.

> 3) I am talking to you as lawyer.
> 4) I am talking to you as lawyer, not as brother.
>
> 5) I am talking to you as brother.

I don't like those; I feel the urge to add an 'a', a 'your' etc..

> 6) John was talking to Jane as husband.
> 7) John was talking to Jane as wife.

Ditto.

> Which are grammatical and meaningful and not absurd?

Ben voilà, AMHA (IMHO).

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by: Hibou - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 09:24 UTC

Le 01/03/2024 à 08:18, Hibou a écrit :
> Le 01/03/2024 à 07:49, navi a écrit :
>>
>> 1) I am talking to you as my lawyer.
>> 2) I am talking to you as my lawyer, not as my brother.
>
> Fine.
>
>> 3) I am talking to you as lawyer.
>> 4) I am talking to you as lawyer, not as brother.
>>
>> 5) I am talking to you as brother.
>
> I don't like those; I feel the urge to add an 'a', a 'your' etc..
>
>> 6) John was talking to Jane as husband.
>> 7) John was talking to Jane as wife.
>
> Ditto.

On reflection, I'm warming to (4). Perhaps 'as thing' works better when
contrasted with 'as other thing'. I'd omit the second 'as', I think:

I'm talking to you as lawyer, not brother.

>> Which are grammatical and meaningful and not absurd?
>
> Ben voilà, AMHA (IMHO).

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by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 09:35 UTC

On 2024-03-01 08:18:02 +0000, Hibou said:

> Le 01/03/2024 à 07:49, navi a écrit :
>>
>> 1) I am talking to you as my lawyer.
>> 2) I am talking to you as my lawyer, not as my brother.
>
> Fine.
>
>> 3) I am talking to you as lawyer.
>> 4) I am talking to you as lawyer, not as brother.
>>
>> 5) I am talking to you as brother.
>
> I don't like those; I feel the urge to add an 'a', a 'your' etc..
>
>> 6) John was talking to Jane as husband.
>> 7) John was talking to Jane as wife.
>
> Ditto.

Not exacly Ditto: those are worse; unless there is a distinction to be
made "as wife" and "as mistress.".
>
>> Which are grammatical and meaningful and not absurd?
>
> Ben voilà, AMHA (IMHO).

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by: Snidely - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 10:27 UTC

Hibou blurted out:
> Le 01/03/2024 à 07:49, navi a écrit :
>>
>> 1) I am talking to you as my lawyer.
>> 2) I am talking to you as my lawyer, not as my brother.
>
> Fine.

I find this confusing. Why am I talking as my lawyer, to you or to
anyone

>
>> 3) I am talking to you as lawyer.
>> 4) I am talking to you as lawyer, not as brother.
>>
>> 5) I am talking to you as brother.
>
> I don't like those; I feel the urge to add an 'a', a 'your' etc..

yea

>
>> 6) John was talking to Jane as husband.
>> 7) John was talking to Jane as wife.
>
> Ditto.
>
>> Which are grammatical and meaningful and not absurd?
>
> Ben voilà, AMHA (IMHO).

My stamp of approval is on none of them.

/dps

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by: Ken Blake - Fri, 1 Mar 2024 15:46 UTC

On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 07:49:42 +0000, arthurvarr@gmail.com (navi) wrote:

>1) I am talking to you as my lawyer.
>2) I am talking to you as my lawyer, not as my brother.
>
>3) I am talking to you as lawyer.
>4) I am talking to you as lawyer, not as brother.
>
>5) I am talking to you as brother.
>
>6) John was talking to Jane as husband.
>7) John was talking to Jane as wife.
>
>Which are grammatical and meaningful and not absurd?

Only 1 and 2,

The rose of yore is but a name, mere names are left to us.

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Subject	Author
talking to you	navi
Re: talking to you	Hibou
Re: talking to you	Hibou
Re: talking to you	Athel Cornish-Bowden
Re: talking to you	Snidely
Re: talking to you	Ken Blake