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by: HenHanna - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 08:10 UTC

On 11/28/2023 12:31 AM, arthurvv vart wrote:
> 1) It was a surprising defeat for all of us.
>
> Were all of us surprisingly defeated?
> Or were all of us surprised because of someone's defeat?
>
> Gratefully,
> Navi
>
> Lost in the Twilight Zone of the English language
> Interested in strange structures
> Obsessed with ambiguity

both are possible.

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Many of Armour's poems have been repeatedly and incorrectly attributed
to Nash. Probably Armour's most-quoted poem (often incorrectly
attributed to Nash) is the quatrain:

"Shake and shake / the catsup bottle /
none will come / and then a lot'll."

Another popular quatrain of his, also usually attributed erroneously to
Nash, is: "Nothing attracts / the mustard from wieners / as much as the
slacks / just back from the cleaners."