Sat, 6 Apr 2024 09:42:47 +0200: Clucker <cluck@cluck.cluck> scribeva:

>On 05/04/2024 14:35, db wrote:
>> I note that almost all postings here are ostensibly
>> from one HenHanna. Can it be that this person has
>> posted all these, or is this a pseudonym given to
>> a lot of actual people?
>
>No collective pseudonym, just one deranged idiot.

I think: a sincere and honest person, somewhere on the autistic
spectrum, therefore understood by few. Strong on details, that others
might think are irrelevant.

I see the hate he unwillingly invokes in some as a form of
discrimination, or ignorance at best. Perhaps if you think more, and
realise we cannot be all the same?

>P.S. The reason s/he is the only poster here is because the other
>regulars (Shepelev, Steve Hayes) have fled to AUE.

--
Ruud Harmsen, https://rudhar.com

On 2024-04-06 07:59:35 +0000, Ruud Harmsen said:

> Sat, 6 Apr 2024 09:42:47 +0200: Clucker <cluck@cluck.cluck> scribeva:
>
>> On 05/04/2024 14:35, db wrote:
>>> I note that almost all postings here are ostensibly
>>> from one HenHanna. Can it be that this person has
>>> posted all these, or is this a pseudonym given to
>>> a lot of actual people?
>>
>> No collective pseudonym, just one deranged idiot.
>
> I think: a sincere and honest person, somewhere on the autistic
> spectrum, therefore understood by few. Strong on details, that others
> might think are irrelevant.
>
> I see the hate

"hate" is an exaggeration

> he unwillingly

How do you know that it's not deliberate?

> invokes in some as a form of
> discrimination, or ignorance at best.

"Ignorance" is nonsense. We have known HenHanna at alt.usage.english
from long before you appeared there. "Discrimation": what basis do you
have for saying that? Is there anyone else you think is discriminated
against? Yourself, perhaps, when you first appeared at
alt.usage.english and immediately started telling people who had been
there for years how they should post. Does it surprise you that no one
liked that?

So far as HenHanna is concerned, here are some things that annoy people:

1. Refusing to format messages in a normal way;

2. Refusing to use normal punctuation;

3. Refusing to use capitals when they are needed (beginnings of
sentences, the pronoun I, etc.);

4. Ignoring all suggestions (and not offering arguments against them);

5. Using abbreviations like pls and ppl that may be acceptable in SMS
messages, but are not acceptable in a group devoted to English usage;

6. Insisting on signing as HH after being told several times that there
was already an HH at alt.usage.english who had been there much earlier.
(He's gone now, but was a regular when HenHanna arrived.)

> Perhaps if you think more, and
> realise we cannot be all the same?

Irrelevant
>
>> P.S. The reason s/he is the only poster here is because the other
>> regulars (Shepelev, Steve Hayes) have fled to AUE.

--
Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly
in England until 1987.

On 06/04/24 18:59, Ruud Harmsen wrote:
> Sat, 6 Apr 2024 09:42:47 +0200: Clucker <cluck@cluck.cluck>
> scribeva:
>
>> On 05/04/2024 14:35, db wrote:
>>> I note that almost all postings here are ostensibly from one
>>> HenHanna. Can it be that this person has posted all these, or is
>>> this a pseudonym given to a lot of actual people?
>>
>> No collective pseudonym, just one deranged idiot.
>
> I think: a sincere and honest person, somewhere on the autistic
> spectrum, therefore understood by few. Strong on details, that
> others might think are irrelevant.

I myself am on the autistic spectrum, so I can see a case for
toleration. Nevertheless, he is annoying. Athel has listed some of the
reasons.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

On 2024-04-06, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com> wrote:

> I think: a sincere and honest person, somewhere on the autistic
> spectrum, therefore understood by few. Strong on details, that others
> might think are irrelevant.

Most of HenHanna's posts seem to be their own question or remarks
mixed up with quotes of text found somewhere on the web, or maybe
chatbot answers, and there is no clear delineation which is which.
I originally thought it might be an artifact of the Google Groups
interface they were using, but clearly not, so I think I'll just
ignore their posts.

--
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de

Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:

> So far as HenHanna is concerned, here are some things that annoy people:
>
> 1. Refusing to format messages in a normal way;

Harmless.

> 2. Refusing to use normal punctuation;

Harmless.

> 3. Refusing to use capitals when they are needed (beginnings of
> sentences, the pronoun I, etc.);

Harmless.

> 4. Ignoring all suggestions (and not offering arguments against them);

That is more than annoying: it is regressive.

> 5. Using abbreviations like pls and ppl that may be acceptable in SMS
> messages, but are not acceptable in a group devoted to English usage;

Harmless.

> 6. Insisting on signing as HH after being told several times that there
> was already an HH at alt.usage.english who had been there much earlier.
> (He's gone now, but was a regular when HenHanna arrived.)

You would already be able to disambiguate the two by other methods.

--
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blue-maned_hawk.srht.site
A recent news article has revealed that the United States has denounced
the evil deeds of the United States.

Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

> On 06/04/24 18:59, Ruud Harmsen wrote:
> > Sat, 6 Apr 2024 09:42:47 +0200: Clucker <cluck@cluck.cluck>
> > scribeva:
> >
> >> On 05/04/2024 14:35, db wrote:
> >>> I note that almost all postings here are ostensibly from one
> >>> HenHanna. Can it be that this person has posted all these, or is
> >>> this a pseudonym given to a lot of actual people?
> >>
> >> No collective pseudonym, just one deranged idiot.
> >>
> >
> > I think: a sincere and honest person, somewhere on the autistic
> > spectrum, therefore understood by few. Strong on details, that
> > others might think are irrelevant.
> >
>
> I myself am on the autistic spectrum, so I can see a case for
> toleration. Nevertheless, he is annoying. Athel has listed some of the
> reasons.
>

Writing as a newcomer to aue: I find ill-disciplined posting styles
irritating. When one's readership has only the form and content of
one's posts to judge one by, it seems to me to be a good thing to
observe the norms.

In my opinion: posting ill-formed articles is like playing televised
snooker with dirty fingernails. Some might think my attitude shows
something akin to OCD...

Fortunately one is not obliged to read irritating articles.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

Sat, 6 Apr 2024 10:42:04 +0200: Athel Cornish-Bowden <me@yahoo.com>
scribeva:

>On 2024-04-06 07:59:35 +0000, Ruud Harmsen said:
>
>> Sat, 6 Apr 2024 09:42:47 +0200: Clucker <cluck@cluck.cluck> scribeva:
>>
>>> On 05/04/2024 14:35, db wrote:
>>>> I note that almost all postings here are ostensibly
>>>> from one HenHanna. Can it be that this person has
>>>> posted all these, or is this a pseudonym given to
>>>> a lot of actual people?
>>>
>>> No collective pseudonym, just one deranged idiot.
>>
>> I think: a sincere and honest person, somewhere on the autistic
>> spectrum, therefore understood by few. Strong on details, that others
>> might think are irrelevant.
>>
>> I see the hate
>
>"hate" is an exaggeration
>
>> he unwillingly
>
>How do you know that it's not deliberate?
>
>> invokes in some as a form of
>> discrimination, or ignorance at best.
>
>"Ignorance" is nonsense. We have known HenHanna at alt.usage.english
>from long before you

re-

>appeared there. "Discrimation": what basis do you
>have for saying that? Is there anyone else you think is discriminated
>against? Yourself, perhaps, when you first appeared at
>alt.usage.english and immediately started telling people who had been
>there for years how they should post. Does it surprise you that no one
>liked that?

You irritate me. A lot. You're just proving my point.

>So far as HenHanna is concerned, here are some things that annoy people:
>
>1. Refusing to format messages in a normal way;

Refusing, or being unable.

>2. Refusing to use normal punctuation;
>
>3. Refusing to use capitals when they are needed (beginnings of
>sentences, the pronoun I, etc.);
>
>4. Ignoring all suggestions (and not offering arguments against them);
>
>5. Using abbreviations like pls and ppl that may be acceptable in SMS
>messages, but are not acceptable in a group devoted to English usage;
>
>6. Insisting on signing as HH after being told several times that there
>was already an HH at alt.usage.english who had been there much earlier.
>(He's gone now, but was a regular when HenHanna arrived.)
>
>> Perhaps if you think more, and
>> realise we cannot be all the same?
>
>Irrelevant
>>
>>> P.S. The reason s/he is the only poster here is because the other
>>> regulars (Shepelev, Steve Hayes) have fled to AUE.

--
Ruud Harmsen, https://rudhar.com