Hi MJ,

I understand you've experimented quite a bit with numbers of past draws
and how likely they are to contain all the balls drawn in the next draw.

Have you ever tried looking at it from a different angle, studying
combinations to see whether some are more likely to lead to repeat
numbers than others?

Nigel

Marmaduke Jinks wrote:

> Jink's strategy was to take the last 4 draws (add in a number or two to make
> it to 24) and then randomly sort it. That "variable" did win one year, but
> crashed badly this.

Hi Nigel

I haven't looked at combinations in that way. I'm sort of drifting away
from looking at the Lotto too deeply.

My last big idea was to look at the Lotto like it was a Connect 4 board
(10*6 though). Plot the last 4 or 5 draws on it and see where the missing
hole was. I won some money using the Hotpicks Pick 2 - (combinations here
though like you said?). Then the next time I wasn't so sure and did my 11
as Hotpick1s and won �6 but a loss overall.

Having downloaded the Nick Koutras spreadsheet and adapted it for the 6/59
game this tells me what pairs are low. But I have the attention span of a
gnat these days.

The Nick spreadsheet shows these as only having come up once (6/59 game)
43.50
2.26
4.25
24.54
6.18
33.38
21.55
53.55
10.43
28.28
19.25
15.28
24.59
2.24

But the top combo 2&54 has come up 18 times and we've had 797 draws of the
6/59 game.

Is there any mileage in it?

MJ

"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:CuOdnUqblrcMy_L5nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
> Hi MJ,
>
> I understand you've experimented quite a bit with numbers of past draws
> and how likely they are to contain all the balls drawn in the next draw.
>
> Have you ever tried looking at it from a different angle, studying
> combinations to see whether some are more likely to lead to repeat numbers
> than others?
>
> Nigel
>
>
> Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>
>> Jink's strategy was to take the last 4 draws (add in a number or two to
>> make
>> it to 24) and then randomly sort it. That "variable" did win one year,
>> but
>> crashed badly this.
>

Hi MJ,

Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
> Hi Nigel
>
> I haven't looked at combinations in that way. I'm sort of drifting away
> from looking at the Lotto too deeply.
>
> My last big idea was to look at the Lotto like it was a Connect 4 board
> (10*6 though). Plot the last 4 or 5 draws on it and see where the missing
> hole was. I won some money using the Hotpicks Pick 2 - (combinations here
> though like you said?). Then the next time I wasn't so sure and did my 11
> as Hotpick1s and won £6 but a loss overall.
>
> Having downloaded the Nick Koutras spreadsheet and adapted it for the 6/59
> game this tells me what pairs are low. But I have the attention span of a
> gnat these days.
>
> The Nick spreadsheet shows these as only having come up once (6/59 game)
> 43.50
> 2.26
> 4.25
> 24.54
> 6.18
> 33.38
> 21.55
> 53.55
> 10.43
> 28.28
I must be misunderstanding - I thought you meant pairs in the same draw.
> 19.25
> 15.28
> 24.59
> 2.24
Most of those aren't close to totalling 60, whereas 2&54 are. Do other
popular pairs sum to close to 60?

>
> But the top combo 2&54 has come up 18 times and we've had 797 draws of the
> 6/59 game.
>
> Is there any mileage in it?
>
> MJ

Given that the new lottery operators are allegedly planning to junk 6/59
and go back to 6/49, probably not :-(

Nigel

>
>
>
> "nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:CuOdnUqblrcMy_L5nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>
>>Hi MJ,
>>
>>I understand you've experimented quite a bit with numbers of past draws
>>and how likely they are to contain all the balls drawn in the next draw.
>>
>>Have you ever tried looking at it from a different angle, studying
>>combinations to see whether some are more likely to lead to repeat numbers
>>than others?
>>
>>Nigel
>>
>>
>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Jink's strategy was to take the last 4 draws (add in a number or two to
>>>make
>>>it to 24) and then randomly sort it. That "variable" did win one year,
>>>but
>>>crashed badly this.
>>
>
>
>

"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:BP6dnan2FLI1oOr5nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
> Hi MJ,
>
> Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>> Hi Nigel
>>
>> I haven't looked at combinations in that way. I'm sort of drifting away
>> from looking at the Lotto too deeply.
>>
>> My last big idea was to look at the Lotto like it was a Connect 4 board
>> (10*6 though). Plot the last 4 or 5 draws on it and see where the
>> missing
>> hole was. I won some money using the Hotpicks Pick 2 - (combinations here
>> though like you said?). Then the next time I wasn't so sure and did my
>> 11
>> as Hotpick1s and won �6 but a loss overall.
>>
>> Having downloaded the Nick Koutras spreadsheet and adapted it for the
>> 6/59
>> game this tells me what pairs are low. But I have the attention span of a
>> gnat these days.
>>
>> The Nick spreadsheet shows these as only having come up once (6/59 game)
>> 43.50
>> 2.26
>> 4.25
>> 24.54
>> 6.18
>> 33.38
>> 21.55
>> 53.55
>> 10.43
>> 28.28
> I must be misunderstanding - I thought you meant pairs in the same draw.

No that's overall

>> 19.25
>> 15.28
>> 24.59
>> 2.24
> Most of those aren't close to totalling 60, whereas 2&54 are. Do other
> popular pairs sum to close to 60?

No. The 60 is 59 numbers and a space, it's not a sum. Imagine a mix of
Connect 4 and Battleships. Play where there are gaps. This newsgroup
doesn't do Binaries otherwise I'd upload a picture. The gaps, where a
Connect 4 counter might have gone, gave 19 and 33 last night. The player
could have made a Hotpicks2 success with that last night.

>
>>
>> But the top combo 2&54 has come up 18 times and we've had 797 draws of
>> the 6/59 game.
>>
>> Is there any mileage in it?
>>
>> MJ
>
> Given that the new lottery operators are allegedly planning to junk 6/59
> and go back to 6/49, probably not :-(

I'd not heard that.

>
> Nigel
>
>>
>>
>>
>> "nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:CuOdnUqblrcMy_L5nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>
>>>Hi MJ,
>>>
>>>I understand you've experimented quite a bit with numbers of past draws
>>>and how likely they are to contain all the balls drawn in the next draw.
>>>
>>>Have you ever tried looking at it from a different angle, studying
>>>combinations to see whether some are more likely to lead to repeat
>>>numbers
>>>than others?
>>>
>>>Nigel
>>>
>>>
>>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Jink's strategy was to take the last 4 draws (add in a number or two to
>>>>make
>>>>it to 24) and then randomly sort it. That "variable" did win one year,
>>>>but
>>>>crashed badly this.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

I knocked off a quick system which I hoped might indicate whether any
repeat numbers could be expected in the next draw. The first four draws
(not all on UK Lotto) it predicted one repeat each time and was correct.

Sadly, that was just a case of new system syndrome. Predictions since
have been poor.

For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted in the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
predicted in the NY Lotto.

Meh!

Nigel

Marmaduke Jinks wrote:

> "nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:BP6dnan2FLI1oOr5nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>
>>Hi MJ,
>>
>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>
>>>Hi Nigel
>>>
>>>I haven't looked at combinations in that way. I'm sort of drifting away
>>>from looking at the Lotto too deeply.
>>>
>>>My last big idea was to look at the Lotto like it was a Connect 4 board
>>>(10*6 though). Plot the last 4 or 5 draws on it and see where the
>>>missing
>>>hole was. I won some money using the Hotpicks Pick 2 - (combinations here
>>>though like you said?). Then the next time I wasn't so sure and did my
>>>11
>>>as Hotpick1s and won £6 but a loss overall.
>>>
>>>Having downloaded the Nick Koutras spreadsheet and adapted it for the
>>>6/59
>>>game this tells me what pairs are low. But I have the attention span of a
>>>gnat these days.
>>>
>>>The Nick spreadsheet shows these as only having come up once (6/59 game)
>>> 43.50
>>> 2.26
>>> 4.25
>>> 24.54
>>> 6.18
>>> 33.38
>>> 21.55
>>> 53.55
>>> 10.43
>>> 28.28
>>
>>I must be misunderstanding - I thought you meant pairs in the same draw.
>
>
> No that's overall
>
>
>>> 19.25
>>> 15.28
>>> 24.59
>>> 2.24
>>
>>Most of those aren't close to totalling 60, whereas 2&54 are. Do other
>>popular pairs sum to close to 60?
>
>
> No. The 60 is 59 numbers and a space, it's not a sum. Imagine a mix of
> Connect 4 and Battleships. Play where there are gaps. This newsgroup
> doesn't do Binaries otherwise I'd upload a picture. The gaps, where a
> Connect 4 counter might have gone, gave 19 and 33 last night. The player
> could have made a Hotpicks2 success with that last night.
>
>
>>>But the top combo 2&54 has come up 18 times and we've had 797 draws of
>>>the 6/59 game.
>>>
>>>Is there any mileage in it?
>>>
>>>MJ
>>
>>Given that the new lottery operators are allegedly planning to junk 6/59
>>and go back to 6/49, probably not :-(
>
>
> I'd not heard that.
>
>
>>Nigel
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:CuOdnUqblrcMy_L5nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi MJ,
>>>>
>>>>I understand you've experimented quite a bit with numbers of past draws
>>>>and how likely they are to contain all the balls drawn in the next draw.
>>>>
>>>>Have you ever tried looking at it from a different angle, studying
>>>>combinations to see whether some are more likely to lead to repeat
>>>>numbers
>>>>than others?
>>>>
>>>>Nigel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Jink's strategy was to take the last 4 draws (add in a number or two to
>>>>>make
>>>>>it to 24) and then randomly sort it. That "variable" did win one year,
>>>>>but
>>>>>crashed badly this.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>

Interestingly the mode for repeating numbers shows as 1 (i.e. the last
draw).

61% of the time a number from the last draw will repeat. The Jinks WLC
chose the last 4 draws in order to get his selections. The mode for numbers
repeating from the last 4 is 3 (i.e. 3 numbers from the last 4 will
re-occur).

MJ

"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:5JudnTEzEOjnJuD5nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>I knocked off a quick system which I hoped might indicate whether any
>repeat numbers could be expected in the next draw. The first four draws
>(not all on UK Lotto) it predicted one repeat each time and was correct.
>
> Sadly, that was just a case of new system syndrome. Predictions since have
> been poor.
>
> For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted in the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
> predicted in the NY Lotto.
>
> Meh!
>
> Nigel
>
>
> Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>
>> "nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:BP6dnan2FLI1oOr5nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>
>>>Hi MJ,
>>>
>>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Nigel
>>>>
>>>>I haven't looked at combinations in that way. I'm sort of drifting away
>>>>from looking at the Lotto too deeply.
>>>>
>>>>My last big idea was to look at the Lotto like it was a Connect 4 board
>>>>(10*6 though). Plot the last 4 or 5 draws on it and see where the
>>>>missing
>>>>hole was. I won some money using the Hotpicks Pick 2 - (combinations
>>>>here
>>>>though like you said?). Then the next time I wasn't so sure and did my
>>>>11
>>>>as Hotpick1s and won �6 but a loss overall.
>>>>
>>>>Having downloaded the Nick Koutras spreadsheet and adapted it for the
>>>>6/59
>>>>game this tells me what pairs are low. But I have the attention span of
>>>>a
>>>>gnat these days.
>>>>
>>>>The Nick spreadsheet shows these as only having come up once (6/59 game)
>>>> 43.50
>>>> 2.26
>>>> 4.25
>>>> 24.54
>>>> 6.18
>>>> 33.38
>>>> 21.55
>>>> 53.55
>>>> 10.43
>>>> 28.28
>>>
>>>I must be misunderstanding - I thought you meant pairs in the same draw.
>>
>>
>> No that's overall
>>
>>
>>>> 19.25
>>>> 15.28
>>>> 24.59
>>>> 2.24
>>>
>>>Most of those aren't close to totalling 60, whereas 2&54 are. Do other
>>>popular pairs sum to close to 60?
>>
>>
>> No. The 60 is 59 numbers and a space, it's not a sum. Imagine a mix of
>> Connect 4 and Battleships. Play where there are gaps. This newsgroup
>> doesn't do Binaries otherwise I'd upload a picture. The gaps, where a
>> Connect 4 counter might have gone, gave 19 and 33 last night. The player
>> could have made a Hotpicks2 success with that last night.
>>
>>
>>>>But the top combo 2&54 has come up 18 times and we've had 797 draws of
>>>>the 6/59 game.
>>>>
>>>>Is there any mileage in it?
>>>>
>>>>MJ
>>>
>>>Given that the new lottery operators are allegedly planning to junk 6/59
>>>and go back to 6/49, probably not :-(
>>
>>
>> I'd not heard that.
>>
>>
>>>Nigel
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:CuOdnUqblrcMy_L5nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi MJ,
>>>>>
>>>>>I understand you've experimented quite a bit with numbers of past draws
>>>>>and how likely they are to contain all the balls drawn in the next
>>>>>draw.
>>>>>
>>>>>Have you ever tried looking at it from a different angle, studying
>>>>>combinations to see whether some are more likely to lead to repeat
>>>>>numbers
>>>>>than others?
>>>>>
>>>>>Nigel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Jink's strategy was to take the last 4 draws (add in a number or two
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>make
>>>>>>it to 24) and then randomly sort it. That "variable" did win one
>>>>>>year,
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>crashed badly this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>

Marmaduke Jinks wrote:

> Interestingly the mode for repeating numbers shows as 1 (i.e. the last
> draw).

I think that's deceptive.

For a 6/59 lottery, Hypgeomdist(0,6,6,59) = 0.5095, so most draws will
not contain a ball from the previous draw.

Nigel

>
> 61% of the time a number from the last draw will repeat. The Jinks WLC
> chose the last 4 draws in order to get his selections. The mode for numbers
> repeating from the last 4 is 3 (i.e. 3 numbers from the last 4 will
> re-occur).
>
> MJ
>
> "nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:5JudnTEzEOjnJuD5nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>
>>I knocked off a quick system which I hoped might indicate whether any
>>repeat numbers could be expected in the next draw. The first four draws
>>(not all on UK Lotto) it predicted one repeat each time and was correct.
>>
>>Sadly, that was just a case of new system syndrome. Predictions since have
>>been poor.
>>
>>For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted in the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
>>predicted in the NY Lotto.
>>
>>Meh!
>>
>>Nigel
>>
>>
>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:BP6dnan2FLI1oOr5nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi MJ,
>>>>
>>>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Nigel
>>>>>
>>>>>I haven't looked at combinations in that way. I'm sort of drifting away
>>>>
>>>>>from looking at the Lotto too deeply.
>>>>
>>>>>My last big idea was to look at the Lotto like it was a Connect 4 board
>>>>>(10*6 though). Plot the last 4 or 5 draws on it and see where the
>>>>>missing
>>>>>hole was. I won some money using the Hotpicks Pick 2 - (combinations
>>>>>here
>>>>>though like you said?). Then the next time I wasn't so sure and did my
>>>>>11
>>>>>as Hotpick1s and won £6 but a loss overall.
>>>>>
>>>>>Having downloaded the Nick Koutras spreadsheet and adapted it for the
>>>>>6/59
>>>>>game this tells me what pairs are low. But I have the attention span of
>>>>>a
>>>>>gnat these days.
>>>>>
>>>>>The Nick spreadsheet shows these as only having come up once (6/59 game)
>>>>> 43.50
>>>>> 2.26
>>>>> 4.25
>>>>> 24.54
>>>>> 6.18
>>>>> 33.38
>>>>> 21.55
>>>>> 53.55
>>>>> 10.43
>>>>> 28.28
>>>>
>>>>I must be misunderstanding - I thought you meant pairs in the same draw.
>>>
>>>
>>>No that's overall
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> 19.25
>>>>> 15.28
>>>>> 24.59
>>>>> 2.24
>>>>
>>>>Most of those aren't close to totalling 60, whereas 2&54 are. Do other
>>>>popular pairs sum to close to 60?
>>>
>>>
>>>No. The 60 is 59 numbers and a space, it's not a sum. Imagine a mix of
>>>Connect 4 and Battleships. Play where there are gaps. This newsgroup
>>>doesn't do Binaries otherwise I'd upload a picture. The gaps, where a
>>>Connect 4 counter might have gone, gave 19 and 33 last night. The player
>>>could have made a Hotpicks2 success with that last night.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>But the top combo 2&54 has come up 18 times and we've had 797 draws of
>>>>>the 6/59 game.
>>>>>
>>>>>Is there any mileage in it?
>>>>>
>>>>>MJ
>>>>
>>>>Given that the new lottery operators are allegedly planning to junk 6/59
>>>>and go back to 6/49, probably not :-(
>>>
>>>
>>>I'd not heard that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Nigel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:CuOdnUqblrcMy_L5nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi MJ,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I understand you've experimented quite a bit with numbers of past draws
>>>>>>and how likely they are to contain all the balls drawn in the next
>>>>>>draw.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Have you ever tried looking at it from a different angle, studying
>>>>>>combinations to see whether some are more likely to lead to repeat
>>>>>>numbers
>>>>>>than others?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nigel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Jink's strategy was to take the last 4 draws (add in a number or two
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>make
>>>>>>>it to 24) and then randomly sort it. That "variable" did win one
>>>>>>>year,
>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>crashed badly this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>
>

Nigel, yes, you're right.

I recalculated it at 0.495 (49.5%).

The cell in my Excel sheet, containing the number of draws, was stuck in the
wrong position.

I shall now go and have a cup of tea ;-)

MJ

"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:VFSdnZ4qVaGQvOL5nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
> Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>
>> Interestingly the mode for repeating numbers shows as 1 (i.e. the last
>> draw).
>
> I think that's deceptive.
>
> For a 6/59 lottery, Hypgeomdist(0,6,6,59) = 0.5095, so most draws will not
> contain a ball from the previous draw.
>
> Nigel
>
>>
>> 61% of the time a number from the last draw will repeat. The Jinks WLC
>> chose the last 4 draws in order to get his selections. The mode for
>> numbers repeating from the last 4 is 3 (i.e. 3 numbers from the last 4
>> will re-occur).
>>
>> MJ
>>
>> "nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:5JudnTEzEOjnJuD5nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>
>>>I knocked off a quick system which I hoped might indicate whether any
>>>repeat numbers could be expected in the next draw. The first four draws
>>>(not all on UK Lotto) it predicted one repeat each time and was correct.
>>>
>>>Sadly, that was just a case of new system syndrome. Predictions since
>>>have been poor.
>>>
>>>For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted in the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
>>>predicted in the NY Lotto.
>>>
>>>Meh!
>>>
>>>Nigel
>>>
>>>
>>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:BP6dnan2FLI1oOr5nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi MJ,
>>>>>
>>>>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Nigel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I haven't looked at combinations in that way. I'm sort of drifting
>>>>>>away
>>>>>
>>>>>>from looking at the Lotto too deeply.
>>>>>
>>>>>>My last big idea was to look at the Lotto like it was a Connect 4
>>>>>>board
>>>>>>(10*6 though). Plot the last 4 or 5 draws on it and see where the
>>>>>>missing
>>>>>>hole was. I won some money using the Hotpicks Pick 2 - (combinations
>>>>>>here
>>>>>>though like you said?). Then the next time I wasn't so sure and did
>>>>>>my 11
>>>>>>as Hotpick1s and won �6 but a loss overall.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Having downloaded the Nick Koutras spreadsheet and adapted it for the
>>>>>>6/59
>>>>>>game this tells me what pairs are low. But I have the attention span
>>>>>>of a
>>>>>>gnat these days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The Nick spreadsheet shows these as only having come up once (6/59
>>>>>>game)
>>>>>> 43.50
>>>>>> 2.26
>>>>>> 4.25
>>>>>> 24.54
>>>>>> 6.18
>>>>>> 33.38
>>>>>> 21.55
>>>>>> 53.55
>>>>>> 10.43
>>>>>> 28.28
>>>>>
>>>>>I must be misunderstanding - I thought you meant pairs in the same
>>>>>draw.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No that's overall
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> 19.25
>>>>>> 15.28
>>>>>> 24.59
>>>>>> 2.24
>>>>>
>>>>>Most of those aren't close to totalling 60, whereas 2&54 are. Do other
>>>>>popular pairs sum to close to 60?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No. The 60 is 59 numbers and a space, it's not a sum. Imagine a mix of
>>>>Connect 4 and Battleships. Play where there are gaps. This newsgroup
>>>>doesn't do Binaries otherwise I'd upload a picture. The gaps, where a
>>>>Connect 4 counter might have gone, gave 19 and 33 last night. The
>>>>player could have made a Hotpicks2 success with that last night.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>But the top combo 2&54 has come up 18 times and we've had 797 draws of
>>>>>>the 6/59 game.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there any mileage in it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>MJ
>>>>>
>>>>>Given that the new lottery operators are allegedly planning to junk
>>>>>6/59 and go back to 6/49, probably not :-(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'd not heard that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Nigel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:CuOdnUqblrcMy_L5nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi MJ,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I understand you've experimented quite a bit with numbers of past
>>>>>>>draws
>>>>>>>and how likely they are to contain all the balls drawn in the next
>>>>>>>draw.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Have you ever tried looking at it from a different angle, studying
>>>>>>>combinations to see whether some are more likely to lead to repeat
>>>>>>>numbers
>>>>>>>than others?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nigel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Jink's strategy was to take the last 4 draws (add in a number or two
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>make
>>>>>>>>it to 24) and then randomly sort it. That "variable" did win one
>>>>>>>>year,
>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>crashed badly this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>

nigel wrote:
> I knocked off a quick system which I hoped might indicate whether any
> repeat numbers could be expected in the next draw. The first four draws
> (not all on UK Lotto) it predicted one repeat each time and was correct.
>
> Sadly, that was just a case of new system syndrome. Predictions since
> have been poor.
>
> For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted in the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
> predicted in the NY Lotto.

The midweek UK and New York Lottos each had one number repeat from the
previous draw.

For Saturday, no repeats are predicted for the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
predicted for the NY Lotto.

> Meh!
>
> Nigel

Marmaduke Jinks wrote:

> Nigel, yes, you're right.
>
> I recalculated it at 0.495 (49.5%).
>
> The cell in my Excel sheet, containing the number of draws, was stuck in the
> wrong position.
>
> I shall now go and have a cup of tea ;-)
>
> MJ

How very English of you ;-)

Nigel

& a crumpet ;-)

MJ

"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>
>> Nigel, yes, you're right.
>>
>> I recalculated it at 0.495 (49.5%).
>>
>> The cell in my Excel sheet, containing the number of draws, was stuck in
>> the wrong position.
>>
>> I shall now go and have a cup of tea ;-)
>>
>> MJ
>
> How very English of you ;-)
>
> Nigel
>

I'll bite. If you add in the bonus numbers on the 6/59 game then one of the
7 I think will re-appear.

MJ

"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> nigel wrote:
>> I knocked off a quick system which I hoped might indicate whether any
>> repeat numbers could be expected in the next draw. The first four draws
>> (not all on UK Lotto) it predicted one repeat each time and was correct.
>>
>> Sadly, that was just a case of new system syndrome. Predictions since
>> have been poor.
>>
>> For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted in the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
>> predicted in the NY Lotto.
>
> The midweek UK and New York Lottos each had one number repeat from the
> previous draw.
>
> For Saturday, no repeats are predicted for the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
> predicted for the NY Lotto.
>
>> Meh!
>>
>> Nigel
>

Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
> & a crumpet ;-)
>
> MJ

You omitted barmaid: & a crumpet barmaid.

I've found the TV Series 'Brush Strokes' but I can't for the life of me
the name of the actress who played the 'crumpet barmaid' :-(

Nigel

>
> "nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:9yKdnZ7QmI8nLRz5nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>
>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Nigel, yes, you're right.
>>>
>>>I recalculated it at 0.495 (49.5%).
>>>
>>>The cell in my Excel sheet, containing the number of draws, was stuck in
>>>the wrong position.
>>>
>>>I shall now go and have a cup of tea ;-)
>>>
>>>MJ
>>
>>How very English of you ;-)
>>
>>Nigel
>>
>
>
>

"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>> & a crumpet ;-)
>>
>> MJ
>
> You omitted barmaid: & a crumpet barmaid.
>
> I've found the TV Series 'Brush Strokes' but I can't for the life of me
> the name of the actress who played the 'crumpet barmaid' :-(
>
> Nigel
>
I never watched that for some reason. May have coincided with my time away
at Jinks "college".

But Brush Strokes came up recently in a quiz that I go to. Needed to know
his character name. Pffft. <shrugs shoulders in the French way>

MJ

(I had to do some chopping as the Newsgroup server wouldn't let me reply to
your final message. I'm sure a man of your Kaliber will be able to pick up
the thread).

3 and 56 were repeats (although 3 was a bonus ball).

MJ

"Marmaduke Jinks" <Jinks@Totopoly.co.uk> wrote in message
news:u5ukvj$1ro0t$1@dont-email.me...
>
> I'll bite. If you add in the bonus numbers on the 6/59 game then one of
> the 7 I think will re-appear.
>
> MJ
>
> "nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:9yKdnZ_QmI_mLRz5nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>> nigel wrote:
>>> I knocked off a quick system which I hoped might indicate whether any
>>> repeat numbers could be expected in the next draw. The first four draws
>>> (not all on UK Lotto) it predicted one repeat each time and was correct.
>>>
>>> Sadly, that was just a case of new system syndrome. Predictions since
>>> have been poor.
>>>
>>> For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted in the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
>>> predicted in the NY Lotto.
>>
>> The midweek UK and New York Lottos each had one number repeat from the
>> previous draw.
>>
>> For Saturday, no repeats are predicted for the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
>> predicted for the NY Lotto.
>>
>>> Meh!
>>>
>>> Nigel
>>
>
>

Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
> 3 and 56 were repeats (although 3 was a bonus ball).
>
> MJ
>
> "Marmaduke Jinks" <Jinks@Totopoly.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:u5ukvj$1ro0t$1@dont-email.me...
>
>>I'll bite. If you add in the bonus numbers on the 6/59 game then one of
>>the 7 I think will re-appear.
>>
>>MJ
>>
>>"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>news:9yKdnZ_QmI_mLRz5nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>
>>>nigel wrote:
>>>
>>>>I knocked off a quick system which I hoped might indicate whether any
>>>>repeat numbers could be expected in the next draw. The first four draws
>>>>(not all on UK Lotto) it predicted one repeat each time and was correct.
>>>>
>>>>Sadly, that was just a case of new system syndrome. Predictions since
>>>>have been poor.
>>>>
>>>>For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted in the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
>>>>predicted in the NY Lotto.
>>>
>>>The midweek UK and New York Lottos each had one number repeat from the
>>>previous draw.
>>>
>>>For Saturday, no repeats are predicted for the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
>>>predicted for the NY Lotto.

100% wrong :-(

For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted for the UK Lotto or the NY Lotto.

Nigel

Good Luck with that Mystic...Nigel ;-)

MJ
"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:7PmdnR3kSYxZmxr5nZ2dnZfqnPhi4p2d@brightview.co.uk...
> Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>> 3 and 56 were repeats (although 3 was a bonus ball).
>>
>> MJ
>>
>> "Marmaduke Jinks" <Jinks@Totopoly.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:u5ukvj$1ro0t$1@dont-email.me...
>>
>>>I'll bite. If you add in the bonus numbers on the 6/59 game then one of
>>>the 7 I think will re-appear.
>>>
>>>MJ
>>>
>>>"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>news:9yKdnZ_QmI_mLRz5nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>
>>>>nigel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I knocked off a quick system which I hoped might indicate whether any
>>>>>repeat numbers could be expected in the next draw. The first four draws
>>>>>(not all on UK Lotto) it predicted one repeat each time and was
>>>>>correct.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sadly, that was just a case of new system syndrome. Predictions since
>>>>>have been poor.
>>>>>
>>>>>For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted in the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
>>>>>predicted in the NY Lotto.
>>>>
>>>>The midweek UK and New York Lottos each had one number repeat from the
>>>>previous draw.
>>>>
>>>>For Saturday, no repeats are predicted for the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
>>>>predicted for the NY Lotto.
>
> 100% wrong :-(
>
> For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted for the UK Lotto or the NY Lotto.
>
> Nigel
>

Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
> Good Luck with that Mystic...Nigel ;-)
>
> MJ
> "nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:7PmdnR3kSYxZmxr5nZ2dnZfqnPhi4p2d@brightview.co.uk...
>
>>Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
>>
>>>3 and 56 were repeats (although 3 was a bonus ball).
>>>
>>>MJ
>>>
>>>"Marmaduke Jinks" <Jinks@Totopoly.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:u5ukvj$1ro0t$1@dont-email.me...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'll bite. If you add in the bonus numbers on the 6/59 game then one of
>>>>the 7 I think will re-appear.
>>>>
>>>>MJ
>>>>
>>>>"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:9yKdnZ_QmI_mLRz5nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>nigel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I knocked off a quick system which I hoped might indicate whether any
>>>>>>repeat numbers could be expected in the next draw. The first four draws
>>>>>>(not all on UK Lotto) it predicted one repeat each time and was
>>>>>>correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sadly, that was just a case of new system syndrome. Predictions since
>>>>>>have been poor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted in the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
>>>>>>predicted in the NY Lotto.
>>>>>
>>>>>The midweek UK and New York Lottos each had one number repeat from the
>>>>>previous draw.
>>>>>
>>>>>For Saturday, no repeats are predicted for the UK Lotto, 1 repeat is
>>>>>predicted for the NY Lotto.
>>
>>100% wrong :-(
>>
>>For Wednesday, no repeats are predicted for the UK Lotto or the NY Lotto.
>>

100% wrong again, each getting one repeated main number.

Nigel

My repeats-predictor has gone a bit nuts for Saturday.

It predicts three repeats for UK Lotto and two repeats for NY Lotto.

Given the predictor's near-perfect record of failure, I'll be taking a
keen interest in the results.

Nigel

My guess is 0.

This is the sort of betting I used to do on MarathonBet. Start with a small
wager and then chase it when it loses. Remember the times when it doesn't
repeat is currently showing at 7 and 11 when it does. (but that is including
the bonus). I was betting on the Canadian Lottery when the "repeats" went
past the historical bench mark. My Martingale became unaffordable. But I
liked it but didn't have the patience to re-start.

MJ

"nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> My repeats-predictor has gone a bit nuts for Saturday.
>
> It predicts three repeats for UK Lotto and two repeats for NY Lotto.
>
> Given the predictor's near-perfect record of failure, I'll be taking a
> keen interest in the results.
>
> Nigel
>

Marmaduke Jinks wrote:
> My guess is 0.

Since real-life seems to do the opposite of what my system predicts, if
I were to place a bet I too would choose 0. Or buy a Lotto ticket
omitting the numbers from the previous draw. Although reducing the odds
to 6 from 53 is far short of overcoming the 'house edge' :-(
>
> This is the sort of betting I used to do on MarathonBet. Start with a small
> wager and then chase it when it loses. Remember the times when it doesn't
> repeat is currently showing at 7 and 11 when it does. (but that is including
> the bonus). I was betting on the Canadian Lottery when the "repeats" went
> past the historical bench mark. My Martingale became unaffordable. But I
> liked it but didn't have the patience to re-start.

That seems a reasonable approach, although it won't make you rich.

Nigel

>
>
> MJ
>
> "nigel" <useweb@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:0pOdnVjBK5sr2RH5nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>
>>My repeats-predictor has gone a bit nuts for Saturday.
>>
>>It predicts three repeats for UK Lotto and two repeats for NY Lotto.
>>
>>Given the predictor's near-perfect record of failure, I'll be taking a
>>keen interest in the results.
>>
>>Nigel
>>
>
>
>

nigel wrote:

> My repeats-predictor has gone a bit nuts for Saturday.
>
> It predicts three repeats for UK Lotto and two repeats for NY Lotto.

1 UK repeat (which is actually a shame) and zero NY repeats.
>

Predictions for Wednesday: UK 1, NY 0.

Nigel

nigel wrote:
>
> Predictions for Wednesday: UK 1, NY 0.
>

Result: UK 0. NY 0

Predictions for Saturday: UK 1, NY 0.

Nigel

nigel wrote:

> nigel wrote:
>
>
> Predictions for Saturday: UK 1, NY 0.

Result: UK 0, NY 1.

100% wrong!

Predictions for Wednesday: UK 0, NY 0.

Nigel

nigel wrote:
> nigel wrote:
>
>> nigel wrote:
>>
>>
>> Predictions for Saturday: UK 1, NY 0.
>
>
> Result: UK 0, NY 1.
>
> 100% wrong!
>
> Predictions for Wednesday: UK 0, NY 0.
>
Result: UK 0, NY 2.

Only 50% wrong.

Predictions for Saturday: UK 0, NY 0.

Nigel