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by: HenHanna - Sun, 7 Apr 2024 23:41 UTC

'mag...leiden' ----- iirc, this today is more likely to be used
in the Negative.

So maybe it's like this in English:

I don't suffer [Obj] gladly.

------- which is old-fashioned.

The full verse of the original source of the idiom, 2 Corinthians 11:19
(KJV), reads
"For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise."

The New International Version states "You gladly put up with fools since
you are so wise!"

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Sun, 7 Apr 2024 13:31:51 -0000 (UTC): Antonio Marques
<no_email@invalid.invalid> scribeva:

>Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> Antonio Marques <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote or quoted:
>>> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
>>>> On 2024-04-05, wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote:

>>>>>> Es ist ein Schutz, wie eine Haut, bei Birken, Linden, Eichen.
>>>>>> Doch wenn man was bestimmtes isst, mag man's daran nicht leiden.

>>> My broken german read it as
>>> 'but if one that certain (thing) eats, may one it thereat not suffer' =
>>> 'but if one eats this thing, one may not complain about it'.
>>
>> "Mag" above does not mean "may", but "like". The "leiden" at
>> the end is actually redundant. One can say "Ich mag Computer
>> nicht.", or "Ich mag Computer nicht leiden.", or "Ich kann
>> Computer nicht leiden", all meaning "I don't like computers.".
>
>I didn't know about 'mag...leiden'.

I did. Because it also exists in Dutch, as 'mag ... lijden'.

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by: HenHanna - Wed, 1 May 2024 07:21 UTC

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/leiden#Etymology_3 --- Not Cognate with Leid

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/insufferable

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/suffer (by itself) does NOT mean "to like"

HenHanna wrote:

> 'mag...leiden' ----- iirc, this today is more likely to be used
> in the Negative.

> So maybe it's like this in English:

> I don't suffer [Obj] gladly.

> ------- which is old-fashioned.

> The full verse of the original source of the idiom, 2 Corinthians 11:19
> (KJV), reads
> "For ye suffer fools gladly, seeing ye yourselves are wise."

> The New International Version states "You gladly put up with fools since
> you are so wise!"

> ____________________________________________________________
> Sun, 7 Apr 2024 13:31:51 -0000 (UTC): Antonio Marques
> <no_email@invalid.invalid> scribeva:

> >Stefan Ram <ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> >> Antonio Marques <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote or quoted:
> >>> Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> wrote:
> >>>> On 2024-04-05, wugi <wugi@brol.invalid> wrote:

> >>>>>> Es ist ein Schutz, wie eine Haut, bei Birken, Linden, Eichen.
> >>>>>> Doch wenn man was bestimmtes isst, mag man's daran nicht leiden.

> >>> My broken german read it as
> >>> 'but if one that certain (thing) eats, may one it thereat not suffer' =
> >>> 'but if one eats this thing, one may not complain about it'.
> >>
> >> "Mag" above does not mean "may", but "like". The "leiden" at
> >> the end is actually redundant. One can say "Ich mag Computer
> >> nicht.", or "Ich mag Computer nicht leiden.", or "Ich kann
> >> Computer nicht leiden", all meaning "I don't like computers.".
> >
> >I didn't know about 'mag...leiden'.

> I did. Because it also exists in Dutch, as 'mag ... lijden'.

If you want to know how old a man is, ask his brother-in-law.

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'mag...leiden' --- (I don't suffer fools gladly)	HenHanna
Re: 'mag...leiden' --- (I don't suffer fools gladly)	HenHanna