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 by: HenHanna - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 20:03 UTC

On 3/19/2024 12:12 PM, kyonshi wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Mar 2024 01:34:00 -0700, HenHanna wrote:
>
>> Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson's ages vary depending on the story being
>> told. Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, the creator, didn't explicitly state
>> their ages in every story. However, based on clues in the text, we can
>> make some educated guesses:
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------- Sherlock Holmes:
>>
>> In "His Last Bow" (set in 1914), Holmes is referred to as being 60 years
>> old. This places his birth year around 1854.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------- Dr. Watson:
>>
>> In "A Study in Scarlet" (their first meeting), Watson is a doctor who
>> graduated medical school in 1878. This suggests he was likely in his
>> mid-to-late 20s at the time.
>>
>>
>> There are also unofficial sources suggesting Watson's birth year as
>> 1852, making him a few years older than Holmes.
>>
>>
>> So, depending on the story, Holmes could be anywhere from his late 20s
>> to 60s, and Watson could be in his late 20s to 60s as well, with Watson
>> potentially being a bit older than Holmes.

> Well, depending on the story it might be set anywhere in the timeline. I
> think in the stories it is mentioned Watson fuzzes around the details of
> his stories, so from that perspective it might easily be that nothing we
> know of Holmes and Watson is really fixed.

Well, yes, someone even suggested that Watson is a woman.

> Well, depending on the story[,] it might be set anywhere in the
timeline.

Do you always omit this Comma? This is becoming a Pet-Peeve of mine!

esp. this kind:
[If the letter arrives late your application will be rejected.]

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Wed, 10 Apr 2024 11:03 UTC

HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> wrote:

> On 3/19/2024 12:12 PM, kyonshi wrote:

> > Well, depending on the story it might be set anywhere in the timeline. I
> > think in the stories it is mentioned Watson fuzzes around the details of
> > his stories, so from that perspective it might easily be that nothing we
> > know of Holmes and Watson is really fixed.
>
>
> Well, yes, someone even suggested that Watson is a woman.
>
>
> > Well, depending on the story[,] it might be set anywhere in the
> timeline.
>
>
> Do you always omit this Comma? This is becoming a Pet-Peeve of mine!
>
> esp. this kind:
> [If the letter arrives late your application will be rejected.]

William (or Thomas) Sherlock Scott Holmes was born on
the 6th of January, 1854, at the farmstead of Mycroft, near
Sigerside, in the North Riding of Yorkshire.

This is what William Baring-Gould has to say on the matter,
so everything else is wrong,

Jan
(where is PTD when we need him?)

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 by: HenHanna - Thu, 11 Apr 2024 05:56 UTC

J. J. Lodder wrote:

> HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> wrote:

>> On 3/19/2024 12:12 PM, kyonshi wrote:

>> > Well, depending on the story it might be set anywhere in the timeline. I
>> > think in the stories it is mentioned Watson fuzzes around the details of
>> > his stories, so from that perspective it might easily be that nothing we
>> > know of Holmes and Watson is really fixed.
>>
>>
>> Well, yes, someone even suggested that Watson is a woman.
>>
>>
>> > Well, depending on the story[,] it might be set anywhere in the
>> timeline.
>>
>>
>> Do you always omit this Comma? This is becoming a Pet-Peeve of mine!
>>
>> esp. this kind:
>> [If the letter arrives late your application will be rejected.]

> William (or Thomas) Sherlock Scott Holmes was born on
> the 6th of January, 1854, at the farmstead of Mycroft, near
> Sigerside, in the North Riding of Yorkshire.

> This is what William Baring-Gould has to say on the matter,
> so everything else is wrong,

> Jan
> (where is PTD when we need him?)

was PTD helpful on Sherlockian matters???


When SH was resurrected in the recent TV series, Watson's reaction was not fainting, but .......

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 by: J. J. Lodder - Thu, 11 Apr 2024 10:36 UTC

HenHanna <HenHanna@dev.null> wrote:

> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>
> > HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> wrote:
>
> >> On 3/19/2024 12:12 PM, kyonshi wrote:
>
> >> > Well, depending on the story it might be set anywhere in the timeline. I
> >> > think in the stories it is mentioned Watson fuzzes around the details of
> >> > his stories, so from that perspective it might easily be that nothing we
> >> > know of Holmes and Watson is really fixed.
> >>
> >>
> >> Well, yes, someone even suggested that Watson is a woman.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Well, depending on the story[,] it might be set anywhere in the
> >> timeline.
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you always omit this Comma? This is becoming a Pet-Peeve of mine!
> >>
> >> esp. this kind:
> >> [If the letter arrives late your application will be rejected.]
>
> > William (or Thomas) Sherlock Scott Holmes was born on
> > the 6th of January, 1854, at the farmstead of Mycroft, near
> > Sigerside, in the North Riding of Yorkshire.
>
> > This is what William Baring-Gould has to say on the matter,
> > so everything else is wrong,
>
> > Jan
> > (where is PTD when we need him?)
>
>
>
> was PTD helpful on Sherlockian matters???

No, just PTD being fiercely opposed to Baring-Goulds scholarly approach
to all things Sherlockian.

He just couldn't take the rather British sense of humour of it,

Jan

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 by: HenHanna - Thu, 11 Apr 2024 11:10 UTC

J. J. Lodder wrote:

> HenHanna <HenHanna@dev.null> wrote:

>> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>
>> > HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> wrote:
>>
>> >> On 3/19/2024 12:12 PM, kyonshi wrote:
>>
>> >> > Well, depending on the story it might be set anywhere in the timeline. I
>> >> > think in the stories it is mentioned Watson fuzzes around the details of
>> >> > his stories, so from that perspective it might easily be that nothing we
>> >> > know of Holmes and Watson is really fixed.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Well, yes, someone even suggested that Watson is a woman.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Well, depending on the story[,] it might be set anywhere in the
>> >> timeline.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Do you always omit this Comma? This is becoming a Pet-Peeve of mine!
>> >>
>> >> esp. this kind:
>> >> [If the letter arrives late your application will be rejected.]
>>
>> > William (or Thomas) Sherlock Scott Holmes was born on
>> > the 6th of January, 1854, at the farmstead of Mycroft, near
>> > Sigerside, in the North Riding of Yorkshire.
>>
>> > This is what William Baring-Gould has to say on the matter,
>> > so everything else is wrong,
>>
>> > Jan
>> > (where is PTD when we need him?)
>>
>>
>>
>> was PTD helpful on Sherlockian matters???

> No, just PTD being fiercely opposed to Baring-Goulds scholarly approach
> to all things Sherlockian.
> He just couldn't take the rather British sense of humour of it, Jan

i see... Thanks! i used to own a copy of Baring-Gould

i prefer the Notes (Annotations) in the Oxford SH series.

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 by: HenHanna - Fri, 12 Apr 2024 04:23 UTC

HenHanna wrote:

> J. J. Lodder wrote:

>> HenHanna <HenHanna@dev.null> wrote:

>>> J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>
>>> > HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> wrote:
>>>
>>> >> On 3/19/2024 12:12 PM, kyonshi wrote:
>>>
>>> >> > Well, depending on the story it might be set anywhere in the timeline. I
>>> >> > think in the stories it is mentioned Watson fuzzes around the details of
>>> >> > his stories, so from that perspective it might easily be that nothing we
>>> >> > know of Holmes and Watson is really fixed.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, yes, someone even suggested that Watson is a woman.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Well, depending on the story[,] it might be set anywhere in the
>>> >> timeline.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Do you always omit this Comma? This is becoming a Pet-Peeve of mine!
>>> >>
>>> >> esp. this kind:
>>> >> [If the letter arrives late your application will be rejected.]
>>>
>>> > William (or Thomas) Sherlock Scott Holmes was born on
>>> > the 6th of January, 1854, at the farmstead of Mycroft, near
>>> > Sigerside, in the North Riding of Yorkshire.
>>>
>>> > This is what William Baring-Gould has to say on the matter,
>>> > so everything else is wrong,
>>>
>>> > Jan
>>> > (where is PTD when we need him?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> was PTD helpful on Sherlockian matters???

>> No, just PTD being fiercely opposed to Baring-Goulds scholarly approach
>> to all things Sherlockian.
>> He just couldn't take the rather British sense of humour of it, Jan

> i see... Thanks! i used to own a copy of Baring-Gould

> i prefer the Notes (Annotations) in the Oxford SH series.

i found several POSTS by PTD on SH matters, and started a new thread. HH

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