1) It's not part of the game that you wear a disguise, but there are no rules against it either.
2) It's not part of the game for you to wear a disguise, but there are no rules against it either.
3) It's not part of the game to wear a disguise, but there are no rules against it either.

Which are grammatical?

==
Gratefully,
Navi

Lost in the Twilight Zone of the English language
Interested in strange structures on the margins of grammaticality
Obsessed with ambiguity

arthurvarr@gmail.com (navi) wrote or quoted:
>1) It's not part of the game that you wear a disguise, but
>there are no rules against it either.
>2) It's not part of the game for you to wear a disguise, but
>there are no rules against it either.
>3) It's not part of the game to wear a disguise, but there
>are no rules against it either.
>Which are grammatical?

Well now, let me take a gander at these here sentences and see what
I can make of 'em. Yessir, all three of 'em are as grammatically
proper as a debutante at a cotillion, that's for darn tootin'.

Now the first one, that's got a real down-to-earth, good ol'
American flair to it, don't it? Sounds like somethin' your
average Joe on Main Street might say, y'know? Kinda has that
"anything goes" kind of vibe to it, if you catch my drift.

As for the second one, well that's got a mite more of a stiff upper
lip to it, don't it? Sounds like it came straight outta the Queen's
own mouth, if you ask me. That "for you to" bit, why that'd have most
red-blooded Americans scratching their heads and sayin' "come again?"

But the third one, now that's the real McCoy, ain't it?
Straight-laced, by-the-book, no-nonsense kinda talk. Sounds
like it came straight outta the mouth of some high-falutin'
professor emeritus, the kind that's got more degrees than a
thermometer. Yep, that's the one that's got the most starch in
its collar, no doubt about it.

So there you have it, my young whippersnapper. A regular linguistic
smorgasbord, if I do say so myself. Now if you'll excuse me,
I think I'm gonna go take a load off and have myself a cup of tea.

On 14/04/2024 10:31, Stefan Ram wrote:
> arthurvarr@gmail.com (navi) wrote or quoted:
>> 1) It's not part of the game that you wear a disguise, but
>> there are no rules against it either.
>> 2) It's not part of the game for you to wear a disguise, but
>> there are no rules against it either.
>> 3) It's not part of the game to wear a disguise, but there
>> are no rules against it either.
>> Which are grammatical?
>
> Well now, let me take a gander at these here sentences and see what
> I can make of 'em. Yessir, all three of 'em are as grammatically
> proper as a debutante at a cotillion, that's for darn tootin'.
>
> Now the first one, that's got a real down-to-earth, good ol'
> American flair to it, don't it? Sounds like somethin' your
> average Joe on Main Street might say, y'know? Kinda has that
> "anything goes" kind of vibe to it, if you catch my drift.
>
> As for the second one, well that's got a mite more of a stiff upper
> lip to it, don't it? Sounds like it came straight outta the Queen's
> own mouth, if you ask me. That "for you to" bit, why that'd have most
> red-blooded Americans scratching their heads and sayin' "come again?"
>
> But the third one, now that's the real McCoy, ain't it?
> Straight-laced, by-the-book, no-nonsense kinda talk. Sounds
> like it came straight outta the mouth of some high-falutin'
> professor emeritus, the kind that's got more degrees than a
> thermometer. Yep, that's the one that's got the most starch in
> its collar, no doubt about it.
>
> So there you have it, my young whippersnapper. A regular linguistic
> smorgasbord, if I do say so myself. Now if you'll excuse me,
> I think I'm gonna go take a load off and have myself a cup of tea.

Have you recently had a stroke?

--
Phil B

Phil <phil@anonymous.invalid> wrote or quoted:
>Have you recently had a stroke?

I'm just takin' the scenic route with my words, that's all.
Gotta make sure y'all can keep up with this here quick-witted
mind o' mine!

(Though I gotta admit, the way my tongue's been flappin' around
might make a fella think I done had a little run-in with a live
wire or two. But hey, keeps things interestin', don't it?)

Phil wrote:

>Have you recently had a stroke?

:)
Actually it sounds as if he uses ChatGPT to generate these kinds of
texts.

-jw-
--
And now for something completely different...

On 14/04/24 20:18, Phil wrote:
> On 14/04/2024 10:31, Stefan Ram wrote:

>> Now the first one, that's got a real down-to-earth, good ol'
>> American flair to it, don't it? Sounds like somethin' your
>> average Joe on Main Street might say, y'know? Kinda has that
>> "anything goes" kind of vibe to it, if you catch my drift.

> Have you recently had a stroke?

I think it's more that he has trained his AI on the very worst of the
pulp magazine era.

I don't think I've ever killfiled an AI before.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

In article <sentences-20240414102957@ram.dialup.fu-
berlin.de>, ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de says...

> I think I'm gonna go take a load off and have myself a cup of tea.

Culture fail.

As a goode ole boy you should be drinking cawffy, or
mountain dew.

Janet

* Phil <uvgai4$3j5gn$1@dont-email.me> :
Wrote on Sun, 14 Apr 2024 11:18:44 +0100:
> Have you recently had a stroke?

I thought I saw a post (in quotations) where S.Ram was introducing
message headers to identify if the content had been generated by spit A
spit I. But these posts don't seem to have the non-standard headers (of
his invention), so he must be asserting some original content.

The scenic route is extremely long, especially if there is someone accompanying you who won't stop talking in English that has been scraped off the sidewalk...

Anyway, I think my thread is dead.
I don't know what Stefan is trying to do, but he sure as hell ain't helping me.

Respectfully,
Navi

On 14/04/24 22:12, Janet wrote:
> In article <sentences-20240414102957@ram.dialup.fu- berlin.de>,
> ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de says...
>
>
>> I think I'm gonna go take a load off and have myself a cup of tea.
>
> Culture fail.
>
> As a goode ole boy you should be drinking cawffy, or mountain dew.

Them good ol' boys drink whiskey and rye.

Question: did the American spelling of whiskey come from Ireland, or was
it an independent invention?

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org.invalid> wrote:

> On 14/04/24 22:12, Janet wrote:
> > In article <sentences-20240414102957@ram.dialup.fu- berlin.de>,
> > ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de says...
> >
> >
> >> I think I'm gonna go take a load off and have myself a cup of tea.
> >
> > Culture fail.
> >
> > As a goode ole boy you should be drinking cawffy, or mountain dew.
>
> Them good ol' boys drink whiskey and rye.
>
> Question: did the American spelling of whiskey come from Ireland, or was
> it an independent invention?

Neither. The Scottish spelling without the 'e'
wasn't fixed until late 19th/early 20th century.

Jan

On 2024-04-14 18:43, Peter Moylan wrote:
> On 14/04/24 22:12, Janet wrote:
>> In article <sentences-20240414102957@ram.dialup.fu- berlin.de>,
>> ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de says...
>>
>>
>>> I think I'm gonna go take a load off and have myself a cup of tea.
>>
>> Culture fail.
>>
>> As a goode ole boy you should be drinking cawffy, or mountain dew.
>
> Them good ol' boys drink whiskey and rye.
>
> Question: did the American spelling of whiskey come from Ireland, or was
> it an independent invention?

Rye whiskey, rye whiskey,
Rye whiskey I cry.
If a tree don't fall on me,
I'll live 'til I die.

--
There are two types of people:
1. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.

navi wrote:

> 1) It's not part of the game that you wear a disguise, but there are no rules against it either.
> 2) It's not part of the game for you to wear a disguise, but there are no rules against it either.
> 3) It's not part of the game to wear a disguise, but there are no rules against it either.

> Which are grammatical?

They all OK but I prefer, related to 2):

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2 examples in this sample

Title Dead Man Walking (IMDB) (Open Subtitles)
Year: 1995 / Genre: Crime, Drama

Plot A nun, while comforting a convicted killer on death row, empathizes with both the killer and his victim's families.

More info Length: 122 min / Rating: R / IMDB rating: 7.5 (80645 votes)

Expanded context

Whatever's convenient. Matthew Poncelet. I remember him from the news. Him and another fella shot two children in the back of the head on Lover's Lane. Raped the girl. Stabbed her several times. Do you know what you're getting into? So, what is it, Sister? Morbid fascination? Bleeding-heart sympathy? He wrote me and asked me to come. There is no romance here, Sister. No Jimmy Cagney " I've been wrongly accused. If I only had someone who believed in me " nonsense. They are all con men. And they will take advantage of you every way they can. You must be very, very careful. Do you understand? Yes, Father. These men don't see many females. For you to wear the habit might help instill respect. For you to flout authority will only encourage them to do the same. Woman on the tier! You can wait there. We'll bring your man out for you. Well, Matthew, I made it. Thanks for coming, ma'am. Never thought I'd be visiting with no nun. So you're a nun. Yep. I'm here to listen. Whatever you want to talk about is fine. You're very sincere. What do you mean? You never done this before. - Never been this close to a murderer? - Not that I know of. Lots of niggers down where you live. They knock each o
ther off like beer cans off a fence. When I got your letter, I seen Helen on it. I thought it was my ex-old lady. Almost ripped it up.
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Marius Hancu