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 by: bfh - Wed, 6 Sep 2023 18:50 UTC

how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?

To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part that
has the least consensus among the AIs.

--------------------------------------------------
Bard
Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the
membrane is more tightly attached to the shell.
-------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------
Bing chat
Use eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that the
fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
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--------------------------------------------------
LLaMa
Use fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
------------------------------------------------

So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1

------------------------------------------------
ChatGPT
Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
fresh ones.
------------------------------------------------

So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy by
being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start with fresh
older eggs.
And BTW, is a fresh older egg different from an older fresh egg, and
if so, what are the approximate temporal metrics of each?

If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote for?
Or alternatively, which science would you follow?

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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 by: Technobarbarian - Wed, 6 Sep 2023 20:06 UTC

On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
>
> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part that
> has the least consensus among the AIs.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> Bard
> Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the
> membrane is more tightly attached to the shell.
> -------------------------------------------------
> -------------------------------------------------
> Bing chat
> Use eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that the
> fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
> -------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------------------
> LLaMa
> Use fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>
> ------------------------------------------------
> ChatGPT
> Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
> fresh ones.
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy by
> being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start with fresh
> older eggs.
> And BTW, is a fresh older egg different from an older fresh egg, and
> if so, what are the approximate temporal metrics of each?
>
> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote for?
> Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
>
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

TB

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 by: bfh - Wed, 6 Sep 2023 23:16 UTC

Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
>>
>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
>> -------------------------------------------------
>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
>> -------------------------------------------------
>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
>> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
>> ------------------------------------------------
>>
>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------
>>
>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
>> temporal metrics of each?
>>
>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
>>
>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
> don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
> boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
> after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.

LOL!
Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never
literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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 by: Technobarbarian - Thu, 7 Sep 2023 00:06 UTC

On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:16:06 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> >> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
> >>
> >> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
> >> that has the least consensus among the AIs.
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
> >> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
> >> is more tightly attached to the shell.
> >> -------------------------------------------------
> >> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
> >> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
> >> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
> >> -------------------------------------------------
> >> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
> >> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
> >> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
> >> ------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
> >> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
> >> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
> >> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
> >> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
> >> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
> >> temporal metrics of each?
> >>
> >> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
> >> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
> >>
> >> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
> >
> > I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
> > don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
> > boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
> > after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
> LOL!
> Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never
> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Yeah, it's just shocking that anyone here would know enough about boiling an egg to recognize when you're chasing your own ass again.

TB

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 by: Technobarbarian - Thu, 7 Sep 2023 00:21 UTC

On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:16:06 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
> > On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> >> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
> >>
> >> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
> >> that has the least consensus among the AIs.
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
> >> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
> >> is more tightly attached to the shell.
> >> -------------------------------------------------
> >> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
> >> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
> >> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
> >> -------------------------------------------------
> >> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
> >> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
> >> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
> >> ------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
> >> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
> >> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
> >> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
> >> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
> >> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
> >> temporal metrics of each?
> >>
> >> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
> >> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
> >>
> >> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
> >
> > I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
> > don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
> > boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
> > after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
> LOL!
> Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never
> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

Bud Light was one of my smaller mistakes. I have made many here over the years. I think my all time favorite was agreeing with the people who said the orange idiot could never win the nomination in the first place.

TB

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bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
>>>
>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
>>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
>>> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
>>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
>>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
>>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
>>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
>>> temporal metrics of each?
>>>
>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
>>>
>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>
>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
>> don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
>> boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
>> after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>
> LOL!
> Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never
> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
>

He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class Googler.
I don’t know why he doesn’t google “ Biden’s accomplishments” and regale us
with that infinite list.

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Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 4:16:06 PM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh
>>> wrote:
>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
>>>>
>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the
>>>> part that has the least consensus among the AIs.
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use
>>>> older eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the
>>>> membrane is more tightly attached to the shell.
>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat
>>>> Use eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find
>>>> that the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to
>>>> peel. -------------------------------------------------
>>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than
>>>> older eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT
>>>> Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily
>>>> than very fresh ones.
>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older
>>>> controversy by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends
>>>> that you start with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh
>>>> older egg different from an older fresh egg, and if so, what
>>>> are the approximate temporal metrics of each?
>>>>
>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you
>>>> vote for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
>>>>
>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>
>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel
>>> easily don't put them in the water until you have brought it to
>>> the boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice
>>> water after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely
>>> necessary.
>> LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
>> everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light advertising
>> analytics....because I've never literally met you. You're a hoot
>> TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm getting old and brittle,
>> I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or
>> I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought
>> to also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the
>> floor. Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
>> strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms
>> of hilariousness is a unique possibility at the end of the day
>> going forward. -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> Yeah, it's just shocking that anyone here would know enough about
> boiling an egg to recognize when you're chasing your own ass
> again.

HawHawHaw! See? You're a certified hoot.
>

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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 by: bfh - Thu, 7 Sep 2023 01:23 UTC

George.Anthony wrote:
> bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
>>>>
>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.
>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
>>>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
>>>> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
>>>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
>>>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
>>>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
>>>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
>>>> temporal metrics of each?
>>>>
>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
>>>>
>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>
>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
>>> don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
>>> boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
>>> after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>
>> LOL!
>> Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
>> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never
>> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
>> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
>> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
>> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
>> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
>> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
>>
>
> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class Googler.
> I don’t know why he doesn’t google “ Biden’s accomplishments” and regale us
> with that infinite list.
>

And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't even
able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
it's congenital?

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Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
> George.Anthony wrote:
>> bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
>>>>>
>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
>>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
>>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
>>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
>>>>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
>>>>> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
>>>>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
>>>>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
>>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
>>>>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
>>>>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
>>>>> temporal metrics of each?
>>>>>
>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
>>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>>
>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
>>>> don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
>>>> boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
>>>> after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>>
>>> LOL!
>>> Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
>>> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never
>>> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
>>> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
>>> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
>>> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
>>> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
>>> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
>>>
>>
>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class Googler.
>> I don’t know why he doesn’t google “ Biden’s accomplishments” and regale us
>> with that infinite list.
>>
>
> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't even
> able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
> think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
> it's congenital?
>

Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive accomplishments as
president. That should be a hoot.

--
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your bag of coke.

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George.Anthony wrote:
> bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>> bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
>>>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
>>>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
>>>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
>>>>>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
>>>>>> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
>>>>>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
>>>>>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
>>>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
>>>>>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
>>>>>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
>>>>>> temporal metrics of each?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
>>>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
>>>>> don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
>>>>> boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
>>>>> after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>>>
>>>> LOL!
>>>> Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
>>>> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never
>>>> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
>>>> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
>>>> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
>>>> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
>>>> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
>>>> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
>>>>
>>>
>>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class Googler.
>>> I don’t know why he doesn’t google “ Biden’s accomplishments” and regale us
>>> with that infinite list.
>>>
>>
>> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't even
>> able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
>> think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
>> it's congenital?
>>
>
> Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive accomplishments as
> president. That should be a hoot.
>
Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my friends.
I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along "model collapse"
already is.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8

And as to your request (I also added Trump):
--------------------------------------------------------------------
list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
As a neutral AI language model, I can provide an objective list of Joe
Biden's positive accomplishments during his presidency:

COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was successful in
implementing policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, such as
vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and social distancing measures.
These efforts helped slow down the pandemic and save countless lives.
Economic Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy
experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession. The
president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory reforms, and
investments in infrastructure, which contributed to economic growth
and job creation.
Climate Change Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority
by signing executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed at
addressing global warming.
Immigration Reform: During Biden's term, there were several
notable immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary
protection to young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as minors.
Criminal Justice Reform: Biden supported legislation aimed at
reducing mass incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems,
and providing support for victims of crime. His administration also
worked to address police brutality and systemic racial disparities
within law enforcement agencies.
LGBTQ+ Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
throughout his political career. During his presidency, he signed the
Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+ individuals from
discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.
Foreign Policy Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy
achievements included the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of
relations with Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in shaping the
response to the global refugee crisis.

list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President
LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
It is important to note that opinions about Donald Trump's presidency
may vary widely depending on one's perspective and experiences.
However, here are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency
that have been reported by various news outlets and organizations:

Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US economy
experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment rates and rising
stock market indices.
Tax cuts: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which
lowered income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer spending.
Deregulation: Trump issued numerous executive orders aimed at
reducing regulations on businesses, particularly in the energy and
financial sectors. This has led to increased efficiency and
competition in these industries.
Criminal justice reform: Trump signed the First Step Act in 2018,
which aimed to reduce sentences for nonviolent drug offenders and
provide more resources for rehabilitation programs.
Military action: Trump ordered military strikes against ISIS
targets in Syria and Yemen, which has been seen as a success in
combating terrorism.
Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the North American Free Trade
Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico, resulting in the United
States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one
trade agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and increase
trade between the two countries.
Space exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the
moon by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
surface. This marks a significant step forward in space exploration
and could pave the way for further human settlements beyond Earth.
Judicial appointments: Trump appointed multiple conservative
judges to federal courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett
Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
Border security: Trump secured funding for border wall prototypes
and took steps to enhance physical barriers along the US-Mexico
border. While the effectiveness of this approach remains
controversial, it has been praised by some for its potential to deter
illegal crossings.
Voter ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
present identification before casting their ballots in certain states.
This move has been criticized by some as an attempt to suppress
minority voting, but others see it as a necessary step to prevent
fraudulent votes.


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On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
> George.Anthony wrote:
>> bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>> bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM
>>>>>> UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
>>>>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
>>>>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
>>>>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
>>>>>>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
>>>>>>> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
>>>>>>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
>>>>>>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
>>>>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
>>>>>>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
>>>>>>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
>>>>>>> temporal metrics of each?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
>>>>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
>>>>>> don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
>>>>>> boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
>>>>>> after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL!
>>>>> Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
>>>>> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never
>>>>> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
>>>>> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
>>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
>>>>> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
>>>>> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
>>>>> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
>>>>> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class
>>>> Googler.
>>>> I don’t know why he doesn’t google “
>>>> Biden’s accomplishments” and regale us
>>>> with that infinite list.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't even
>>> able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
>>> think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
>>> it's congenital?
>>>
>>
>> Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive accomplishments as
>> president. That should be a hoot.
>>
> Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my friends. I'm
> just trying to get a self-idea of how far along "model collapse" already
> is.
>
> https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8
>
> And as to your request (I also added Trump):
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
> As a neutral AI language model, I can provide an objective list of Joe
> Biden's positive accomplishments during his presidency:
>
>     COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was successful in
> implementing policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, such as
> vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and social distancing measures.
> These efforts helped slow down the pandemic and save countless lives.
>     Economic Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy
> experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession. The
> president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory reforms, and
> investments in infrastructure, which contributed to economic growth and
> job creation.
>     Climate Change Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by
> signing executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
> promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in negotiating
> the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed at addressing global
> warming.
>     Immigration Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
> immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action for
> Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary protection
> to young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as minors.
>     Criminal Justice Reform: Biden supported legislation aimed at
> reducing mass incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems,
> and providing support for victims of crime. His administration also
> worked to address police brutality and systemic racial disparities
> within law enforcement agencies.
>     LGBTQ+ Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
> throughout his political career. During his presidency, he signed the
> Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+ individuals from
> discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.
>     Foreign Policy Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements
> included the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
> Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. Additionally, his
> administration played a crucial role in shaping the response to the
> global refugee crisis.
>
> list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President
> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
> It is important to note that opinions about Donald Trump's presidency
> may vary widely depending on one's perspective and experiences. However,
> here are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that have
> been reported by various news outlets and organizations:
>
>     Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US economy
> experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment rates and rising
> stock market indices.
>     Tax cuts: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which
> lowered income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
> been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer spending.
>     Deregulation: Trump issued numerous executive orders aimed at
> reducing regulations on businesses, particularly in the energy and
> financial sectors. This has led to increased efficiency and competition
> in these industries.
>     Criminal justice reform: Trump signed the First Step Act in 2018,
> which aimed to reduce sentences for nonviolent drug offenders and
> provide more resources for rehabilitation programs.
>     Military action: Trump ordered military strikes against ISIS
> targets in Syria and Yemen, which has been seen as a success in
> combating terrorism.
>     Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the North American Free Trade
> Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico, resulting in the United
> States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one
> trade agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and increase
> trade between the two countries.
>     Space exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
> by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar surface. This
> marks a significant step forward in space exploration and could pave the
> way for further human settlements beyond Earth.
>     Judicial appointments: Trump appointed multiple conservative judges
> to federal courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
> and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological balance and
> influenced legal decisions for years to come.
>     Border security: Trump secured funding for border wall prototypes
> and took steps to enhance physical barriers along the US-Mexico border.
> While the effectiveness of this approach remains controversial, it has
> been praised by some for its potential to deter illegal crossings.
>     Voter ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
> present identification before casting their ballots in certain states.
> This move has been criticized by some as an attempt to suppress minority
> voting, but others see it as a necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.
>
> It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's presidency and
> accomplishments will differ depending on individual perspectives and
> beliefs. Some people may view these accomplishments positively, while
> others might disagree or consider them insignificant compared to other
> issues.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared to
> 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual perspectives and beliefs"
> included with the Trump response.
>
> I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased as the
> average human. I further allege that unless their 'parents' change how
> the damthings are "trained", they're going to be both useless and
> dangerous.
>


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kmiller wrote:
> On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>> bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>> bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
>>>>>>> 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
>>>>>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
>>>>>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
>>>>>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
>>>>>>>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
>>>>>>>> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
>>>>>>>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
>>>>>>>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
>>>>>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
>>>>>>>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
>>>>>>>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
>>>>>>>> temporal metrics of each?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
>>>>>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
>>>>>>> don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
>>>>>>> boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
>>>>>>> after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>> Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
>>>>>> everything....everything
>>>>>> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've
>>>>>> never
>>>>>> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now
>>>>>> that I'm
>>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a
>>>>>> hospital
>>>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably
>>>>>> ought to
>>>>>> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the
>>>>>> floor.
>>>>>> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
>>>>>> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of
>>>>>> hilariousness is
>>>>>> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class
>>>>> Googler.
>>>>> I don’t know why he doesn’t
>>>>> google “ Biden’s
>>>>> accomplishments” and regale us
>>>>> with that infinite list.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't
>>>> even
>>>> able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
>>>> think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
>>>> it's congenital?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive
>>> accomplishments as
>>> president. That should be a hoot.
>>>
>> Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my friends.
>> I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along "model collapse"
>> already is.
>>
>> https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8
>>
>>
>> And as to your request (I also added Trump):
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
>> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
>> As a neutral AI language model, I can provide an objective list of
>> Joe Biden's positive accomplishments during his presidency:
>>
>>  Â Â Â  COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was successful in
>> implementing policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, such as
>> vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and social distancing measures.
>> These efforts helped slow down the pandemic and save countless lives.
>>  Â Â Â  Economic Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy
>> experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession. The
>> president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory reforms,
>> and investments in infrastructure, which contributed to economic
>> growth and job creation.
>>  Â Â Â  Climate Change Initiatives: Biden made climate change a
>> priority by signing executive orders aimed at reducing carbon
>> emissions and promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key
>> role in negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord
>> aimed at addressing global warming.
>>  Â Â Â  Immigration Reform: During Biden's term, there were several
>> notable immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred
>> Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided
>> temporary protection to young undocumented immigrants who came to
>> the US as minors.
>>  Â Â Â  Criminal Justice Reform: Biden supported legislation aimed
>> at reducing mass incarceration rates, improving criminal justice
>> systems, and providing support for victims of crime. His
>> administration also worked to address police brutality and systemic
>> racial disparities within law enforcement agencies.
>>  Â Â Â  LGBTQ+ Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+
>> rights throughout his political career. During his presidency, he
>> signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+ individuals
>> from discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender
>> identity.
>>  Â Â Â  Foreign Policy Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy
>> achievements included the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of
>> relations with Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
>> Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in shaping
>> the response to the global refugee crisis.
>>
>> list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President
>> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
>> It is important to note that opinions about Donald Trump's
>> presidency may vary widely depending on one's perspective and
>> experiences. However, here are some positive accomplishments of
>> Trump's presidency that have been reported by various news outlets
>> and organizations:
>>
>>  Â Â Â  Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US economy
>> experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment rates and
>> rising stock market indices.
>>  Â Â Â  Tax cuts: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017,
>> which lowered income taxes for individuals and businesses. This
>> measure has been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
>> spending.
>>  Â Â Â  Deregulation: Trump issued numerous executive orders aimed
>> at reducing regulations on businesses, particularly in the energy
>> and financial sectors. This has led to increased efficiency and
>> competition in these industries.
>>  Â Â Â  Criminal justice reform: Trump signed the First Step Act in
>> 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences for nonviolent drug offenders
>> and provide more resources for rehabilitation programs.
>>  Â Â Â  Military action: Trump ordered military strikes against ISIS
>> targets in Syria and Yemen, which has been seen as a success in
>> combating terrorism.
>>  Â Â Â  Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the North American Free
>> Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico, resulting in the
>> United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a
>> phase one trade agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs
>> and increase trade between the two countries.
>>  Â Â Â  Space exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to
>> the moon by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
>> surface. This marks a significant step forward in space exploration
>> and could pave the way for further human settlements beyond Earth.
>>  Â Â Â  Judicial appointments: Trump appointed multiple conservative
>> judges to federal courts, including two Supreme Court justices
>> (Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's
>> ideological balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
>>  Â Â Â  Border security: Trump secured funding for border wall
>> prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers along the
>> US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this approach remains
>> controversial, it has been praised by some for its potential to
>> deter illegal crossings.
>>  Â Â Â  Voter ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters
>> to present identification before casting their ballots in certain
>> states. This move has been criticized by some as an attempt to
>> suppress minority voting, but others see it as a necessary step to
>> prevent fraudulent votes.
>>
>> It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's presidency
>> and accomplishments will differ depending on individual perspectives
>> and beliefs. Some people may view these accomplishments positively,
>> while others might disagree or consider them insignificant compared
>> to other issues.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response
>> compared to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual perspectives
>> and beliefs" included with the Trump response.
>>
>> I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased as the
>> average human. I further allege that unless their 'parents' change
>> how the damthings are "trained", they're going to be both useless
>> and dangerous.
>>
>
> They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they? HawHawHaw!


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On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> kmiller wrote:
> > On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
> >> George.Anthony wrote:
> >>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
> >>>> George.Anthony wrote:
> >>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
> >>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
> >>>>>>> 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
> >>>>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
> >>>>>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
> >>>>>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
> >>>>>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
> >>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
> >>>>>>>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
> >>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
> >>>>>>>> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
> >>>>>>>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
> >>>>>>>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
> >>>>>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
> >>>>>>>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
> >>>>>>>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
> >>>>>>>> temporal metrics of each?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
> >>>>>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
> >>>>>>> don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
> >>>>>>> boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
> >>>>>>> after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> LOL!
> >>>>>> Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
> >>>>>> everything....everything
> >>>>>> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've
> >>>>>> never
> >>>>>> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now
> >>>>>> that I'm
> >>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness
> >>>>>> for
> >>>>>> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a
> >>>>>> hospital
> >>>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably
> >>>>>> ought to
> >>>>>> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the
> >>>>>> floor.
> >>>>>> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
> >>>>>> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of
> >>>>>> hilariousness is
> >>>>>> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class
> >>>>> Googler.
> >>>>> I don’t know why he doesn’t
> >>>>> google “ Biden’s
> >>>>> accomplishments†and regale us
> >>>>> with that infinite list.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't
> >>>> even
> >>>> able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
> >>>> think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
> >>>> it's congenital?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive
> >>> accomplishments as
> >>> president. That should be a hoot.
> >>>
> >> Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my friends.
> >> I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along "model collapse"
> >> already is.
> >>
> >> https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8
> >>
> >>
> >> And as to your request (I also added Trump):
> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
> >> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
> >> As a neutral AI language model, I can provide an objective list of
> >> Joe Biden's positive accomplishments during his presidency:
> >>
> >> Â Â Â COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was successful in
> >> implementing policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, such as
> >> vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and social distancing measures.
> >> These efforts helped slow down the pandemic and save countless lives.
> >> Â Â Â Economic Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy
> >> experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession. The
> >> president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory reforms,
> >> and investments in infrastructure, which contributed to economic
> >> growth and job creation.
> >> Â Â Â Climate Change Initiatives: Biden made climate change a
> >> priority by signing executive orders aimed at reducing carbon
> >> emissions and promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key
> >> role in negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord
> >> aimed at addressing global warming.
> >> Â Â Â Immigration Reform: During Biden's term, there were several
> >> notable immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred
> >> Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided
> >> temporary protection to young undocumented immigrants who came to
> >> the US as minors.
> >> Â Â Â Criminal Justice Reform: Biden supported legislation aimed
> >> at reducing mass incarceration rates, improving criminal justice
> >> systems, and providing support for victims of crime. His
> >> administration also worked to address police brutality and systemic
> >> racial disparities within law enforcement agencies.
> >> Â Â Â LGBTQ+ Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+
> >> rights throughout his political career. During his presidency, he
> >> signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+ individuals
> >> from discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender
> >> identity.
> >> Â Â Â Foreign Policy Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy
> >> achievements included the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of
> >> relations with Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
> >> Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in shaping
> >> the response to the global refugee crisis.
> >>
> >> list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President
> >> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
> >> It is important to note that opinions about Donald Trump's
> >> presidency may vary widely depending on one's perspective and
> >> experiences. However, here are some positive accomplishments of
> >> Trump's presidency that have been reported by various news outlets
> >> and organizations:
> >>
> >> Â Â Â Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US economy
> >> experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment rates and
> >> rising stock market indices.
> >> Â Â Â Tax cuts: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017,
> >> which lowered income taxes for individuals and businesses. This
> >> measure has been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
> >> spending.
> >> Â Â Â Deregulation: Trump issued numerous executive orders aimed
> >> at reducing regulations on businesses, particularly in the energy
> >> and financial sectors. This has led to increased efficiency and
> >> competition in these industries.
> >> Â Â Â Criminal justice reform: Trump signed the First Step Act in
> >> 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences for nonviolent drug offenders
> >> and provide more resources for rehabilitation programs.
> >> Â Â Â Military action: Trump ordered military strikes against ISIS
> >> targets in Syria and Yemen, which has been seen as a success in
> >> combating terrorism.
> >> Â Â Â Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the North American Free
> >> Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico, resulting in the
> >> United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a
> >> phase one trade agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs
> >> and increase trade between the two countries.
> >> Â Â Â Space exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to
> >> the moon by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
> >> surface. This marks a significant step forward in space exploration
> >> and could pave the way for further human settlements beyond Earth.
> >> Â Â Â Judicial appointments: Trump appointed multiple conservative
> >> judges to federal courts, including two Supreme Court justices
> >> (Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's
> >> ideological balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
> >> Â Â Â Border security: Trump secured funding for border wall
> >> prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers along the
> >> US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this approach remains
> >> controversial, it has been praised by some for its potential to
> >> deter illegal crossings.
> >> Â Â Â Voter ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters
> >> to present identification before casting their ballots in certain
> >> states. This move has been criticized by some as an attempt to
> >> suppress minority voting, but others see it as a necessary step to
> >> prevent fraudulent votes.
> >>
> >> It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's presidency
> >> and accomplishments will differ depending on individual perspectives
> >> and beliefs. Some people may view these accomplishments positively,
> >> while others might disagree or consider them insignificant compared
> >> to other issues.
> >> -----------------------------------------------------------
> >> Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response
> >> compared to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual perspectives
> >> and beliefs" included with the Trump response.
> >>
> >> I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased as the
> >> average human. I further allege that unless their 'parents' change
> >> how the damthings are "trained", they're going to be both useless
> >> and dangerous.
> >>
> >
> > They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they? HawHawHaw!
> Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed?
> --
> bill
> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.


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 by: bfh - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 01:33 UTC

Don Lampson wrote:
> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>> kmiller wrote:
>>> On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
>>>>>>>>> 11:50:45 AM
>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily
>>>>>>>>>> every time?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to
>>>>>>>>>> include the part that has the least consensus
>>>>>>>>>> among the AIs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> Bard Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more
>>>>>>>>>> difficult to peel because the membrane is more
>>>>>>>>>> tightly attached to the shell.
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many
>>>>>>>>>> people find that the fresher an egg is, the more
>>>>>>>>>> difficult it is to peel.
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
-------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to
>>>>>>>>>> peel than older eggs, which may have a thicker
>>>>>>>>>> shell.
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> ChatGPT Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to
>>>>>>>>>> peel more easily than very fresh ones.
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the
>>>>>>>>>> fresh/older controversy by being equitable and
>>>>>>>>>> inclusive. It recommends that you start with
>>>>>>>>>> fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg
>>>>>>>>>> different from an older fresh egg, and if so,
>>>>>>>>>> what are the approximate temporal metrics of
>>>>>>>>>> each?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which
>>>>>>>>>> one would you vote for? Or alternatively, which
>>>>>>>>>> science would you follow?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to
>>>>>>>>> peel easily don't put them in the water until you
>>>>>>>>> have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if
>>>>>>>>> you chill them quickly in ice water after you've
>>>>>>>>> cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
>>>>>>>> everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light
>>>>>>>> advertising analytics....because I've never literally
>>>>>>>> met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now
>>>>>>>> that I'm getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to
>>>>>>>> get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or I'll
>>>>>>>> be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
>>>>>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I
>>>>>>>> probably ought to also get the tools out of my
>>>>>>>> toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. Look, I
>>>>>>>> mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
>>>>>>>> strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable
>>>>>>>> paroxysms of hilariousness is a unique possibility at
>>>>>>>> the end of the day going forward.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a
>>>>>>> world class Googler. I
>>>>>>> don’t know why he
>>>>>>> doesn’t google
>>>>>>> “
>>>>>>> Biden’s
>>>>>>> accomplishments†and
>>>>>>> regale us with that infinite list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone,
>>>>>> he wasn't even able to figure out what an "AI test
>>>>>> question" is for. And I don't think I've ever known
>>>>>> anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe it's
>>>>>> congenital?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s
>>>>> positive accomplishments as president. That should be a
>>>>> hoot.
>>>>>
>>>> Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my
>>>> friends. I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along
>>>> "model collapse" already is.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
And as to your request (I also added Trump):
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
>>>> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs As a neutral AI language
>>>> model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's
>>>> positive accomplishments during his presidency:
>>>>
>>>> Â Â Â COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was
>>>> successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of
>>>> COVID-19, such as vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and
>>>> social distancing measures. These efforts helped slow down
>>>> the pandemic and save countless lives. Â Â Â Economic
>>>> Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy
>>>> experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession.
>>>> The president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory
>>>> reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed
>>>> to economic growth and job creation. Â Â Â Climate Change
>>>> Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing
>>>> executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
>>>> promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
>>>> negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord
>>>> aimed at addressing global warming. Â Â Â Immigration
>>>> Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
>>>> immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
>>>> for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided
>>>> temporary protection to young undocumented immigrants who
>>>> came to the US as minors. Â Â Â Criminal Justice Reform:
>>>> Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass
>>>> incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems, and
>>>> providing support for victims of crime. His administration
>>>> also worked to address police brutality and systemic racial
>>>> disparities within law enforcement agencies. Â Â Â LGBTQ+
>>>> Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
>>>> throughout his political career. During his presidency, he
>>>> signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+
>>>> individuals from discrimination based on their sexual
>>>> orientation or gender identity. Â Â Â Foreign Policy
>>>> Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included
>>>> the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
>>>> Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
>>>> Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in
>>>> shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.
>>>>
>>>> list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President LLaMa
>>>> served by Perplexity Labs It is important to note that
>>>> opinions about Donald Trump's presidency may vary widely
>>>> depending on one's perspective and experiences. However, here
>>>> are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that
>>>> have been reported by various news outlets and
>>>> organizations:
>>>>
>>>> Â Â Â Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US
>>>> economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment
>>>> rates and rising stock market indices. Â Â Â Tax cuts:
>>>> Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered
>>>> income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
>>>> been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
>>>> spending. Â Â Â Deregulation: Trump issued numerous
>>>> executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses,
>>>> particularly in the energy and financial sectors. This has
>>>> led to increased efficiency and competition in these
>>>> industries. Â Â Â Criminal justice reform: Trump signed
>>>> the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences
>>>> for nonviolent drug offenders and provide more resources for
>>>> rehabilitation programs. Â Â Â Military action: Trump
>>>> ordered military strikes against ISIS targets in Syria and
>>>> Yemen, which has been seen as a success in combating
>>>> terrorism. Â Â Â Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the
>>>> North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and
>>>> Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada
>>>> Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one trade
>>>> agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and
>>>> increase trade between the two countries. Â Â Â Space
>>>> exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
>>>> by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
>>>> surface. This marks a significant step forward in space
>>>> exploration and could pave the way for further human
>>>> settlements beyond Earth. Â Â Â Judicial appointments:
>>>> Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal
>>>> courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
>>>> and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
>>>> balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come. Â
>>>> Â Â Border security: Trump secured funding for border
>>>> wall prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers
>>>> along the US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this
>>>> approach remains controversial, it has been praised by some
>>>> for its potential to deter illegal crossings. Â Â Â Voter
>>>> ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
>>>> present identification before casting their ballots in
>>>> certain states. This move has been criticized by some as an
>>>> attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a
>>>> necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.
>>>>
>>>> It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's
>>>> presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on
>>>> individual perspectives and beliefs. Some people may view
>>>> these accomplishments positively, while others might disagree
>>>> or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response
>>>> compared to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual
>>>> perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.
>>>>
>>>> I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased
>>>> as the average human. I further allege that unless their
>>>> 'parents' change how the damthings are "trained", they're
>>>> going to be both useless and dangerous.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they?
>>> HawHawHaw!
>> Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed? --
>> bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate, as
> examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)?


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 by: kmiller - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 02:10 UTC

On 9/8/2023 6:33 PM, bfh wrote:
> Don Lampson wrote:
>> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>> kmiller wrote:
>>>> On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
>>>>>>>>>> 11:50:45 AM
>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily
>>>>>>>>>>> every time?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to
>>>>>>>>>>> include the part that has the least consensus
>>>>>>>>>>> among the AIs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> Bard Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more
>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to peel because the membrane is more
>>>>>>>>>>> tightly attached to the shell.
>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>>>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many
>>>>>>>>>>> people find that the fresher an egg is, the more
>>>>>>>>>>> difficult it is to peel.
>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>>>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to
>>>>>>>>>>> peel than older eggs, which may have a thicker
>>>>>>>>>>> shell. ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>> ChatGPT Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to
>>>>>>>>>>> peel more easily than very fresh ones.
>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the
>>>>>>>>>>> fresh/older controversy by being equitable and
>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive. It recommends that you start with
>>>>>>>>>>> fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg
>>>>>>>>>>> different from an older fresh egg, and if so,
>>>>>>>>>>> what are the approximate temporal metrics of
>>>>>>>>>>> each?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which
>>>>>>>>>>> one would you vote for? Or alternatively, which
>>>>>>>>>>> science would you follow?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to
>>>>>>>>>> peel easily don't put them in the water until you
>>>>>>>>>> have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if
>>>>>>>>>> you chill them quickly in ice water after you've
>>>>>>>>>> cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
>>>>>>>>> everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light
>>>>>>>>> advertising analytics....because I've never literally
>>>>>>>>> met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
>>>>>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to
>>>>>>>>> get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or I'll
>>>>>>>>> be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
>>>>>>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I
>>>>>>>>> probably ought to also get the tools out of my
>>>>>>>>> toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. Look, I
>>>>>>>>> mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
>>>>>>>>> strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable
>>>>>>>>> paroxysms of hilariousness is a unique possibility at
>>>>>>>>> the end of the day going forward.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a
>>>>>>>> world class Googler. I
>>>>>>>> don’t know why he
>>>>>>>> doesn’t google
>>>>>>>> “
>>>>>>>> Biden’s
>>>>>>>> accomplishments†and
>>>>>>>> regale us with that infinite list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone,
>>>>>>> he wasn't even able to figure out what an "AI test
>>>>>>> question" is for. And I don't think I've ever known
>>>>>>> anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe it's
>>>>>>> congenital?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s
>>>>>> positive accomplishments as president. That should be a
>>>>>> hoot.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my
>>>>> friends. I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along
>>>>> "model collapse" already is.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
> And as to your request (I also added Trump):
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
> list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
>>>>> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs As a neutral AI language
>>>>> model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's
>>>>> positive accomplishments during his presidency:
>>>>>
>>>>>     COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was
>>>>> successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of
>>>>> COVID-19, such as vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and
>>>>> social distancing measures. These efforts helped slow down
>>>>> the pandemic and save countless lives.     Economic
>>>>> Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy experienced a
>>>>> significant recovery from the Great Recession.
>>>>> The president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory
>>>>> reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed
>>>>> to economic growth and job creation.     Climate Change
>>>>> Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing
>>>>> executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
>>>>> promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
>>>>> negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed at
>>>>> addressing global warming.     Immigration
>>>>> Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
>>>>> immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
>>>>> for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary
>>>>> protection to young undocumented immigrants who
>>>>> came to the US as minors.     Criminal Justice Reform:
>>>>> Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass
>>>>> incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems, and
>>>>> providing support for victims of crime. His administration
>>>>> also worked to address police brutality and systemic racial
>>>>> disparities within law enforcement agencies.     LGBTQ+
>>>>> Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
>>>>> throughout his political career. During his presidency, he signed
>>>>> the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+
>>>>> individuals from discrimination based on their sexual
>>>>> orientation or gender identity.     Foreign Policy
>>>>> Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included
>>>>> the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
>>>>> Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. Additionally,
>>>>> his administration played a crucial role in
>>>>> shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.
>>>>>
>>>>> list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President LLaMa
>>>>> served by Perplexity Labs It is important to note that
>>>>> opinions about Donald Trump's presidency may vary widely
>>>>> depending on one's perspective and experiences. However, here
>>>>> are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that
>>>>> have been reported by various news outlets and
>>>>> organizations:
>>>>>
>>>>>     Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US
>>>>> economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment
>>>>> rates and rising stock market indices.     Tax cuts:
>>>>> Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered
>>>>> income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
>>>>> been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer spending.
>>>>>     Deregulation: Trump issued numerous
>>>>> executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses,
>>>>> particularly in the energy and financial sectors. This has
>>>>> led to increased efficiency and competition in these
>>>>> industries.     Criminal justice reform: Trump signed
>>>>> the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences
>>>>> for nonviolent drug offenders and provide more resources for
>>>>> rehabilitation programs.     Military action: Trump
>>>>> ordered military strikes against ISIS targets in Syria and
>>>>> Yemen, which has been seen as a success in combating
>>>>> terrorism.     Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the
>>>>> North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and
>>>>> Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada
>>>>> Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one trade
>>>>> agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and
>>>>> increase trade between the two countries.     Space
>>>>> exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
>>>>> by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar surface.
>>>>> This marks a significant step forward in space
>>>>> exploration and could pave the way for further human
>>>>> settlements beyond Earth.     Judicial appointments:
>>>>> Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal
>>>>> courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
>>>>> and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
>>>>> balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come. Â
>>>>>    Border security: Trump secured funding for border
>>>>> wall prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers
>>>>> along the US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this
>>>>> approach remains controversial, it has been praised by some
>>>>> for its potential to deter illegal crossings.     Voter
>>>>> ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
>>>>> present identification before casting their ballots in
>>>>> certain states. This move has been criticized by some as an
>>>>> attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a
>>>>> necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's
>>>>> presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on
>>>>> individual perspectives and beliefs. Some people may view
>>>>> these accomplishments positively, while others might disagree
>>>>> or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- Note
>>>>> the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared to
>>>>> 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual
>>>>> perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.
>>>>>
>>>>> I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased
>>>>> as the average human. I further allege that unless their
>>>>> 'parents' change how the damthings are "trained", they're
>>>>> going to be both useless and dangerous.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they?
>>>> HawHawHaw!
>>> Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed? --
>>>  bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>
>> Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate,  as
>> examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)?
>
> Can I have all of them?
>
>> BTW, just prezactly what does
>> "mealy-mouth", mean to you?
>
> : not plain and straightforward : devious


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 by: bfh - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 05:18 UTC

kmiller wrote:
> On 9/8/2023 6:33 PM, bfh wrote:
>> Don Lampson wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>> kmiller wrote:
>>>>> On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
>>>>>>>>>>> 11:50:45 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily
>>>>>>>>>>>> every time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to
>>>>>>>>>>>> include the part that has the least consensus
>>>>>>>>>>>> among the AIs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> Bard Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more
>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to peel because the membrane is more
>>>>>>>>>>>> tightly attached to the shell.
>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>>>>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many
>>>>>>>>>>>> people find that the fresher an egg is, the more
>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult it is to peel.
>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to
>>>>>>>>>>>> peel than older eggs, which may have a thicker
>>>>>>>>>>>> shell. ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> ChatGPT Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to
>>>>>>>>>>>> peel more easily than very fresh ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the
>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh/older controversy by being equitable and
>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive. It recommends that you start with
>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg
>>>>>>>>>>>> different from an older fresh egg, and if so,
>>>>>>>>>>>> what are the approximate temporal metrics of
>>>>>>>>>>>> each?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which
>>>>>>>>>>>> one would you vote for? Or alternatively, which
>>>>>>>>>>>> science would you follow?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to
>>>>>>>>>>> peel easily don't put them in the water until you
>>>>>>>>>>> have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if
>>>>>>>>>>> you chill them quickly in ice water after you've
>>>>>>>>>>> cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
>>>>>>>>>> everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light
>>>>>>>>>> advertising analytics....because I've never literally
>>>>>>>>>> met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
>>>>>>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to
>>>>>>>>>> get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or I'll
>>>>>>>>>> be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
>>>>>>>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I
>>>>>>>>>> probably ought to also get the tools out of my
>>>>>>>>>> toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. Look, I
>>>>>>>>>> mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
>>>>>>>>>> strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable
>>>>>>>>>> paroxysms of hilariousness is a unique possibility at
>>>>>>>>>> the end of the day going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a
>>>>>>>>> world class Googler. I
>>>>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>>>>> know why he
>>>>>>>>> doesn’t
>>>>>>>>> google
>>>>>>>>> “
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Biden’s
>>>>>>>>> accomplishmentsâ€ÂÂ
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> regale us with that infinite list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone,
>>>>>>>> he wasn't even able to figure out what an "AI test
>>>>>>>> question" is for. And I don't think I've ever known
>>>>>>>> anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe it's
>>>>>>>> congenital?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ask your AI friend to name all of
>>>>>>> Biden’s
>>>>>>> positive accomplishments as president. That should be a
>>>>>>> hoot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my
>>>>>> friends. I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along
>>>>>> "model collapse" already is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> And as to your request (I also added Trump):
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
>>>>>> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs As a neutral AI language
>>>>>> model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's
>>>>>> positive accomplishments during his presidency:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was
>>>>>> successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of
>>>>>> COVID-19, such as vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and
>>>>>> social distancing measures. These efforts helped slow down
>>>>>> the pandemic and save countless lives.     Economic
>>>>>> Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy experienced a
>>>>>> significant recovery from the Great Recession.
>>>>>> The president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory
>>>>>> reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed
>>>>>> to economic growth and job creation.     Climate
>>>>>> Change
>>>>>> Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing
>>>>>> executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
>>>>>> promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
>>>>>> negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed
>>>>>> at addressing global warming.     Immigration
>>>>>> Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
>>>>>> immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
>>>>>> for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary
>>>>>> protection to young undocumented immigrants who
>>>>>> came to the US as minors.     Criminal Justice
>>>>>> Reform:
>>>>>> Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass
>>>>>> incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems, and
>>>>>> providing support for victims of crime. His administration
>>>>>> also worked to address police brutality and systemic racial
>>>>>> disparities within law enforcement agencies. Â Â ÂÂ
>>>>>> LGBTQ+
>>>>>> Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
>>>>>> throughout his political career. During his presidency, he
>>>>>> signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+
>>>>>> individuals from discrimination based on their sexual
>>>>>> orientation or gender identity.     Foreign Policy
>>>>>> Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included
>>>>>> the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
>>>>>> Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
>>>>>> Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in
>>>>>> shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President LLaMa
>>>>>> served by Perplexity Labs It is important to note that
>>>>>> opinions about Donald Trump's presidency may vary widely
>>>>>> depending on one's perspective and experiences. However, here
>>>>>> are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that
>>>>>> have been reported by various news outlets and
>>>>>> organizations:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Economic growth: During Trump's presidency,
>>>>>> the US
>>>>>> economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment
>>>>>> rates and rising stock market indices.     Tax
>>>>>> cuts:
>>>>>> Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered
>>>>>> income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
>>>>>> been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
>>>>>> spending.     Deregulation: Trump issued numerous
>>>>>> executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses,
>>>>>> particularly in the energy and financial sectors. This has
>>>>>> led to increased efficiency and competition in these
>>>>>> industries.     Criminal justice reform: Trump
>>>>>> signed
>>>>>> the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences
>>>>>> for nonviolent drug offenders and provide more resources for
>>>>>> rehabilitation programs.     Military action: Trump
>>>>>> ordered military strikes against ISIS targets in Syria and
>>>>>> Yemen, which has been seen as a success in combating
>>>>>> terrorism.     Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the
>>>>>> North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and
>>>>>> Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada
>>>>>> Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one trade
>>>>>> agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and
>>>>>> increase trade between the two countries.     Space
>>>>>> exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
>>>>>> by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
>>>>>> surface. This marks a significant step forward in space
>>>>>> exploration and could pave the way for further human
>>>>>> settlements beyond Earth.     Judicial
>>>>>> appointments:
>>>>>> Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal
>>>>>> courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
>>>>>> and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
>>>>>> balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come. Â
>>>>>>    Border security: Trump secured funding for border
>>>>>> wall prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers
>>>>>> along the US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this
>>>>>> approach remains controversial, it has been praised by some
>>>>>> for its potential to deter illegal crossings. Â Â
>>>>>>   Voter
>>>>>> ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
>>>>>> present identification before casting their ballots in
>>>>>> certain states. This move has been criticized by some as an
>>>>>> attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a
>>>>>> necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's
>>>>>> presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on
>>>>>> individual perspectives and beliefs. Some people may view
>>>>>> these accomplishments positively, while others might disagree
>>>>>> or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- Note
>>>>>> the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared
>>>>>> to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual
>>>>>> perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased
>>>>>> as the average human. I further allege that unless their
>>>>>> 'parents' change how the damthings are "trained", they're
>>>>>> going to be both useless and dangerous.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they?
>>>>> HawHawHaw!
>>>> Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed? --
>>>>  bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>
>>> Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate,  as
>>> examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)?
>>
>> Can I have all of them?
>>
>>> BTW, just prezactly what does
>>> "mealy-mouth", mean to you?
>>
>> : not plain and straightforward : devious
>
> You mean like, "All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780
> votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won this state, and
> flipping the state is a great testament to the country," Trump said.
> "I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a
> break." "It's just not possible to have lost Georgia. It's not
> possible," Trump said.?
>
> HawHawHaw!


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Don Lampson <donlampson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>> kmiller wrote:
>>> On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
>>>>>>>>> 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
>>>>>>>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
>>>>>>>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
>>>>>>>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
>>>>>>>>>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
>>>>>>>>>> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
>>>>>>>>>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
>>>>>>>>>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
>>>>>>>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
>>>>>>>>>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
>>>>>>>>>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
>>>>>>>>>> temporal metrics of each?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
>>>>>>>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
>>>>>>>>> don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
>>>>>>>>> boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
>>>>>>>>> after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
>>>>>>>> everything....everything
>>>>>>>> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've
>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now
>>>>>>>> that I'm
>>>>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a
>>>>>>>> hospital
>>>>>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably
>>>>>>>> ought to
>>>>>>>> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the
>>>>>>>> floor.
>>>>>>>> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
>>>>>>>> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of
>>>>>>>> hilariousness is
>>>>>>>> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class
>>>>>>> Googler.
>>>>>>> I don’t know why he doesn’t
>>>>>>> google “ Biden’s
>>>>>>> accomplishments†and regale us
>>>>>>> with that infinite list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
>>>>>> think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
>>>>>> it's congenital?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive
>>>>> accomplishments as
>>>>> president. That should be a hoot.
>>>>>
>>>> Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my friends.
>>>> I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along "model collapse"
>>>> already is.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> And as to your request (I also added Trump):
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
>>>> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
>>>> As a neutral AI language model, I can provide an objective list of
>>>> Joe Biden's positive accomplishments during his presidency:
>>>>
>>>> Â Â Â COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was successful in
>>>> implementing policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, such as
>>>> vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and social distancing measures.
>>>> These efforts helped slow down the pandemic and save countless lives.
>>>> Â Â Â Economic Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy
>>>> experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession. The
>>>> president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory reforms,
>>>> and investments in infrastructure, which contributed to economic
>>>> growth and job creation.
>>>> Â Â Â Climate Change Initiatives: Biden made climate change a
>>>> priority by signing executive orders aimed at reducing carbon
>>>> emissions and promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key
>>>> role in negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord
>>>> aimed at addressing global warming.
>>>> Â Â Â Immigration Reform: During Biden's term, there were several
>>>> notable immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred
>>>> Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided
>>>> temporary protection to young undocumented immigrants who came to
>>>> the US as minors.
>>>> Â Â Â Criminal Justice Reform: Biden supported legislation aimed
>>>> at reducing mass incarceration rates, improving criminal justice
>>>> systems, and providing support for victims of crime. His
>>>> administration also worked to address police brutality and systemic
>>>> racial disparities within law enforcement agencies.
>>>> Â Â Â LGBTQ+ Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+
>>>> rights throughout his political career. During his presidency, he
>>>> signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+ individuals
>>>> from discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender
>>>> identity.
>>>> Â Â Â Foreign Policy Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy
>>>> achievements included the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of
>>>> relations with Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
>>>> Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in shaping
>>>> the response to the global refugee crisis.
>>>>
>>>> list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President
>>>> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
>>>> It is important to note that opinions about Donald Trump's
>>>> presidency may vary widely depending on one's perspective and
>>>> experiences. However, here are some positive accomplishments of
>>>> Trump's presidency that have been reported by various news outlets
>>>> and organizations:
>>>>
>>>> Â Â Â Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US economy
>>>> experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment rates and
>>>> rising stock market indices.
>>>> Â Â Â Tax cuts: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017,
>>>> which lowered income taxes for individuals and businesses. This
>>>> measure has been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
>>>> spending.
>>>> Â Â Â Deregulation: Trump issued numerous executive orders aimed
>>>> at reducing regulations on businesses, particularly in the energy
>>>> and financial sectors. This has led to increased efficiency and
>>>> competition in these industries.
>>>> Â Â Â Criminal justice reform: Trump signed the First Step Act in
>>>> 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences for nonviolent drug offenders
>>>> and provide more resources for rehabilitation programs.
>>>> Â Â Â Military action: Trump ordered military strikes against ISIS
>>>> targets in Syria and Yemen, which has been seen as a success in
>>>> combating terrorism.
>>>> Â Â Â Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the North American Free
>>>> Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico, resulting in the
>>>> United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a
>>>> phase one trade agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs
>>>> and increase trade between the two countries.
>>>> Â Â Â Space exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to
>>>> the moon by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
>>>> surface. This marks a significant step forward in space exploration
>>>> and could pave the way for further human settlements beyond Earth.
>>>> Â Â Â Judicial appointments: Trump appointed multiple conservative
>>>> judges to federal courts, including two Supreme Court justices
>>>> (Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's
>>>> ideological balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
>>>> Â Â Â Border security: Trump secured funding for border wall
>>>> prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers along the
>>>> US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this approach remains
>>>> controversial, it has been praised by some for its potential to
>>>> deter illegal crossings.
>>>> Â Â Â Voter ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters
>>>> to present identification before casting their ballots in certain
>>>> states. This move has been criticized by some as an attempt to
>>>> suppress minority voting, but others see it as a necessary step to
>>>> prevent fraudulent votes.
>>>>
>>>> It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's presidency
>>>> and accomplishments will differ depending on individual perspectives
>>>> and beliefs. Some people may view these accomplishments positively,
>>>> while others might disagree or consider them insignificant compared
>>>> to other issues.
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response
>>>> compared to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual perspectives
>>>> and beliefs" included with the Trump response.
>>>>
>>>> I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased as the
>>>> average human. I further allege that unless their 'parents' change
>>>> how the damthings are "trained", they're going to be both useless
>>>> and dangerous.
>>>>
>>>
>>> They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they? HawHawHaw!
>> Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed?
>> --
>> bill
>> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate, as examples
> of their mealy-mouthism(s)? BTW, just prezactly what does "mealy-mouth",
> mean to you? Maybe you better go ask AI what it thinks, just to be on
> the safe side? It's got an opinion too! HawHawHaw!
>
> Daniel Webster VIII
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 by: Frank Howell - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 22:30 UTC

bfh wrote:
> kmiller wrote:
>> On 9/8/2023 6:33 PM, bfh wrote:
>>> Don Lampson wrote:
>>>> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>> kmiller wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:50:45 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>> every time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> include the part that has the least consensus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> among the AIs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bard Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to peel because the membrane is more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tightly attached to the shell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many
>>>>>>>>>>>>> people find that the fresher an egg is, the more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult it is to peel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> peel than older eggs, which may have a thicker
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shell. ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ChatGPT Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> peel more easily than very fresh ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh/older controversy by being equitable and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive. It recommends that you start with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg
>>>>>>>>>>>>> different from an older fresh egg, and if so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what are the approximate temporal metrics of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> each?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would you vote for? Or alternatively, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> science would you follow?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to
>>>>>>>>>>>> peel easily don't put them in the water until you
>>>>>>>>>>>> have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if
>>>>>>>>>>>> you chill them quickly in ice water after you've
>>>>>>>>>>>> cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
>>>>>>>>>>> everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light
>>>>>>>>>>> advertising analytics....because I've never literally
>>>>>>>>>>> met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to
>>>>>>>>>>> get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or I'll
>>>>>>>>>>> be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
>>>>>>>>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I
>>>>>>>>>>> probably ought to also get the tools out of my
>>>>>>>>>>> toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. Look, I
>>>>>>>>>>> mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
>>>>>>>>>>> strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable
>>>>>>>>>>> paroxysms of hilariousness is a unique possibility at
>>>>>>>>>>> the end of the day going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a
>>>>>>>>>> world class Googler. I
>>>>>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>>>>>> know why he
>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t
>>>>>>>>>> google
>>>>>>>>>> “
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Biden’s
>>>>>>>>>> accomplishmentsâ€ÂÂ
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> regale us with that infinite list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone,
>>>>>>>>> he wasn't even able to figure out what an "AI test
>>>>>>>>> question" is for. And I don't think I've ever known
>>>>>>>>> anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe it's
>>>>>>>>> congenital?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ask your AI friend to name all of
>>>>>>>> Biden’s
>>>>>>>> positive accomplishments as president. That should be a
>>>>>>>> hoot.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my
>>>>>>> friends. I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along
>>>>>>> "model collapse" already is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> And as to your request (I also added Trump):
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
>>>>>>> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs As a neutral AI language
>>>>>>> model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's
>>>>>>> positive accomplishments during his presidency:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was
>>>>>>> successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of
>>>>>>> COVID-19, such as vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and
>>>>>>> social distancing measures. These efforts helped slow down
>>>>>>> the pandemic and save countless lives.     Economic
>>>>>>> Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy experienced a
>>>>>>> significant recovery from the Great Recession.
>>>>>>> The president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory
>>>>>>> reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed
>>>>>>> to economic growth and job creation.     Climate
>>>>>>> Change
>>>>>>> Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing
>>>>>>> executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
>>>>>>> promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
>>>>>>> negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed at
>>>>>>> addressing global warming.     Immigration
>>>>>>> Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
>>>>>>> immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
>>>>>>> for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary
>>>>>>> protection to young undocumented immigrants who
>>>>>>> came to the US as minors.     Criminal Justice
>>>>>>> Reform:
>>>>>>> Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass
>>>>>>> incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems, and
>>>>>>> providing support for victims of crime. His administration
>>>>>>> also worked to address police brutality and systemic racial
>>>>>>> disparities within law enforcement agencies. Â Â ÂÂ
>>>>>>> LGBTQ+
>>>>>>> Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
>>>>>>> throughout his political career. During his presidency, he signed
>>>>>>> the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+
>>>>>>> individuals from discrimination based on their sexual
>>>>>>> orientation or gender identity.     Foreign Policy
>>>>>>> Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included
>>>>>>> the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
>>>>>>> Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
>>>>>>> Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in
>>>>>>> shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President LLaMa
>>>>>>> served by Perplexity Labs It is important to note that
>>>>>>> opinions about Donald Trump's presidency may vary widely
>>>>>>> depending on one's perspective and experiences. However, here
>>>>>>> are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that
>>>>>>> have been reported by various news outlets and
>>>>>>> organizations:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Economic growth: During Trump's presidency,
>>>>>>> the US
>>>>>>> economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment
>>>>>>> rates and rising stock market indices.     Tax cuts:
>>>>>>> Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered
>>>>>>> income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
>>>>>>> been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
>>>>>>> spending.     Deregulation: Trump issued numerous
>>>>>>> executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses,
>>>>>>> particularly in the energy and financial sectors. This has
>>>>>>> led to increased efficiency and competition in these
>>>>>>> industries.     Criminal justice reform: Trump
>>>>>>> signed
>>>>>>> the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences
>>>>>>> for nonviolent drug offenders and provide more resources for
>>>>>>> rehabilitation programs.     Military action: Trump
>>>>>>> ordered military strikes against ISIS targets in Syria and
>>>>>>> Yemen, which has been seen as a success in combating
>>>>>>> terrorism.     Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the
>>>>>>> North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and
>>>>>>> Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada
>>>>>>> Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one trade
>>>>>>> agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and
>>>>>>> increase trade between the two countries.     Space
>>>>>>> exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
>>>>>>> by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
>>>>>>> surface. This marks a significant step forward in space
>>>>>>> exploration and could pave the way for further human
>>>>>>> settlements beyond Earth.     Judicial appointments:
>>>>>>> Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal
>>>>>>> courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
>>>>>>> and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
>>>>>>> balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come. Â
>>>>>>>    Border security: Trump secured funding for border
>>>>>>> wall prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers
>>>>>>> along the US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this
>>>>>>> approach remains controversial, it has been praised by some
>>>>>>> for its potential to deter illegal crossings. Â Â ÂÂ
>>>>>>> Voter
>>>>>>> ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
>>>>>>> present identification before casting their ballots in
>>>>>>> certain states. This move has been criticized by some as an
>>>>>>> attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a
>>>>>>> necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's
>>>>>>> presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on
>>>>>>> individual perspectives and beliefs. Some people may view
>>>>>>> these accomplishments positively, while others might disagree
>>>>>>> or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- Note
>>>>>>> the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared
>>>>>>> to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual
>>>>>>> perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased
>>>>>>> as the average human. I further allege that unless their
>>>>>>> 'parents' change how the damthings are "trained", they're
>>>>>>> going to be both useless and dangerous.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they?
>>>>>> HawHawHaw!
>>>>> Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed? --
>>>>>  bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate,  as
>>>> examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)?
>>>
>>> Can I have all of them?
>>>
>>>> BTW, just prezactly what does
>>>> "mealy-mouth", mean to you?
>>>
>>> : not plain and straightforward : devious
>>
>> You mean like, "All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780
>> votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won this state, and
>> flipping the state is a great testament to the country," Trump said.
>> "I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a
>> break." "It's just not possible to have lost Georgia. It's not
>> possible," Trump said.?
>>
>> HawHawHaw!
>
> Nothing mealy-mouthed about that. "plain and straight forward". It's
> what he thought/thinks - straight from his brain to your ears/eyes.
>
>>> What does it mean to you?


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 by: George.Anthony - Sat, 9 Sep 2023 22:53 UTC

Frank Howell <fphowell@usermail.com> wrote:
> bfh wrote:
>> kmiller wrote:
>>> On 9/8/2023 6:33 PM, bfh wrote:
>>>> Don Lampson wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>>> kmiller wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:50:45 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include the part that has the least consensus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among the AIs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bard Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to peel because the membrane is more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tightly attached to the shell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people find that the fresher an egg is, the more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult it is to peel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peel than older eggs, which may have a thicker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shell. ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ChatGPT Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peel more easily than very fresh ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh/older controversy by being equitable and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive. It recommends that you start with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different from an older fresh egg, and if so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what are the approximate temporal metrics of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would you vote for? Or alternatively, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> science would you follow?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> peel easily don't put them in the water until you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you chill them quickly in ice water after you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light
>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising analytics....because I've never literally
>>>>>>>>>>>> met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to
>>>>>>>>>>>> get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>> be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
>>>>>>>>>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably ought to also get the tools out of my
>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. Look, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
>>>>>>>>>>>> strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable
>>>>>>>>>>>> paroxysms of hilariousness is a unique possibility at
>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of the day going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a
>>>>>>>>>>> world class Googler. I
>>>>>>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> know why he
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> google
>>>>>>>>>>> “
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Biden’s
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> accomplishmentsâ€ÂÂ
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> regale us with that infinite list.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone,
>>>>>>>>>> he wasn't even able to figure out what an "AI test
>>>>>>>>>> question" is for. And I don't think I've ever known
>>>>>>>>>> anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe it's
>>>>>>>>>> congenital?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ask your AI friend to name all of
>>>>>>>>> Biden’s
>>>>>>>>> positive accomplishments as president. That should be a
>>>>>>>>> hoot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my
>>>>>>>> friends. I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along
>>>>>>>> "model collapse" already is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> And as to your request (I also added Trump):
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
>>>>>>>> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs As a neutral AI language
>>>>>>>> model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's
>>>>>>>> positive accomplishments during his presidency:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was
>>>>>>>> successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of
>>>>>>>> COVID-19, such as vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and
>>>>>>>> social distancing measures. These efforts helped slow down
>>>>>>>> the pandemic and save countless lives.     Economic
>>>>>>>> Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy experienced a
>>>>>>>> significant recovery from the Great Recession.
>>>>>>>> The president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory
>>>>>>>> reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed
>>>>>>>> to economic growth and job creation.     Climate
>>>>>>>> Change
>>>>>>>> Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing
>>>>>>>> executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
>>>>>>>> promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
>>>>>>>> negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed at
>>>>>>>> addressing global warming.     Immigration
>>>>>>>> Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
>>>>>>>> immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
>>>>>>>> for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary
>>>>>>>> protection to young undocumented immigrants who
>>>>>>>> came to the US as minors.     Criminal Justice
>>>>>>>> Reform:
>>>>>>>> Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass
>>>>>>>> incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems, and
>>>>>>>> providing support for victims of crime. His administration
>>>>>>>> also worked to address police brutality and systemic racial
>>>>>>>> disparities within law enforcement agencies. Â Â ÂÂ
>>>>>>>> LGBTQ+
>>>>>>>> Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
>>>>>>>> throughout his political career. During his presidency, he signed
>>>>>>>> the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+
>>>>>>>> individuals from discrimination based on their sexual
>>>>>>>> orientation or gender identity.     Foreign Policy
>>>>>>>> Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included
>>>>>>>> the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
>>>>>>>> Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
>>>>>>>> Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in
>>>>>>>> shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President LLaMa
>>>>>>>> served by Perplexity Labs It is important to note that
>>>>>>>> opinions about Donald Trump's presidency may vary widely
>>>>>>>> depending on one's perspective and experiences. However, here
>>>>>>>> are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that
>>>>>>>> have been reported by various news outlets and
>>>>>>>> organizations:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Economic growth: During Trump's presidency,
>>>>>>>> the US
>>>>>>>> economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment
>>>>>>>> rates and rising stock market indices.     Tax cuts:
>>>>>>>> Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered
>>>>>>>> income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
>>>>>>>> been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
>>>>>>>> spending.     Deregulation: Trump issued numerous
>>>>>>>> executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses,
>>>>>>>> particularly in the energy and financial sectors. This has
>>>>>>>> led to increased efficiency and competition in these
>>>>>>>> industries.     Criminal justice reform: Trump
>>>>>>>> signed
>>>>>>>> the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences
>>>>>>>> for nonviolent drug offenders and provide more resources for
>>>>>>>> rehabilitation programs.     Military action: Trump
>>>>>>>> ordered military strikes against ISIS targets in Syria and
>>>>>>>> Yemen, which has been seen as a success in combating
>>>>>>>> terrorism.     Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the
>>>>>>>> North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and
>>>>>>>> Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada
>>>>>>>> Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one trade
>>>>>>>> agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and
>>>>>>>> increase trade between the two countries.     Space
>>>>>>>> exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
>>>>>>>> by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
>>>>>>>> surface. This marks a significant step forward in space
>>>>>>>> exploration and could pave the way for further human
>>>>>>>> settlements beyond Earth.     Judicial appointments:
>>>>>>>> Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal
>>>>>>>> courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
>>>>>>>> and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
>>>>>>>> balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come. Â
>>>>>>>>    Border security: Trump secured funding for border
>>>>>>>> wall prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers
>>>>>>>> along the US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this
>>>>>>>> approach remains controversial, it has been praised by some
>>>>>>>> for its potential to deter illegal crossings. Â Â ÂÂ
>>>>>>>> Voter
>>>>>>>> ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
>>>>>>>> present identification before casting their ballots in
>>>>>>>> certain states. This move has been criticized by some as an
>>>>>>>> attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a
>>>>>>>> necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's
>>>>>>>> presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on
>>>>>>>> individual perspectives and beliefs. Some people may view
>>>>>>>> these accomplishments positively, while others might disagree
>>>>>>>> or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------- Note
>>>>>>>> the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared
>>>>>>>> to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual
>>>>>>>> perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased
>>>>>>>> as the average human. I further allege that unless their
>>>>>>>> 'parents' change how the damthings are "trained", they're
>>>>>>>> going to be both useless and dangerous.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they?
>>>>>>> HawHawHaw!
>>>>>> Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed? --
>>>>>>  bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate,  as
>>>>> examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)?
>>>>
>>>> Can I have all of them?
>>>>
>>>>> BTW, just prezactly what does
>>>>> "mealy-mouth", mean to you?
>>>>
>>>>> not plain and straightforward : devious
>>>
>>> You mean like, "All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780
>>> votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won this state, and
>>> flipping the state is a great testament to the country," Trump said.
>>> "I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a
>>> break." "It's just not possible to have lost Georgia. It's not
>>> possible," Trump said.?
>>>
>>> HawHawHaw!
>>
>> Nothing mealy-mouthed about that. "plain and straight forward". It's
>> what he thought/thinks - straight from his brain to your ears/eyes.
>>
>>>> What does it mean to you?
>
> It's clear Trump is unprincipled mealy-brained.


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 by: bfh - Sun, 10 Sep 2023 00:06 UTC

Frank Howell wrote:
> bfh wrote:
>> kmiller wrote:
>>> On 9/8/2023 6:33 PM, bfh wrote:
>>>> Don Lampson wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, September 8, 2023 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-7,
>>>>> bfh wrote:
>>>>>> kmiller wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/7/2023 9:53 AM, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> bfh <red...@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11:50:45 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every time?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> include the part that has the least consensus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among the AIs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bard Use older eggs. Fresh eggs are more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to peel because the membrane is more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tightly attached to the shell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people find that the fresher an egg is, the more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult it is to peel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peel than older eggs, which may have a thicker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shell. ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ChatGPT Start with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peel more easily than very fresh ones.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh/older controversy by being equitable and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inclusive. It recommends that you start with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different from an older fresh egg, and if so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what are the approximate temporal metrics of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one would you vote for? Or alternatively, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> science would you follow?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> peel easily don't put them in the water until you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have brought it to the boiling point. It helps if
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you chill them quickly in ice water after you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL! Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything....everything except maybe in Bud Light
>>>>>>>>>>>> advertising analytics....because I've never literally
>>>>>>>>>>>> met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to
>>>>>>>>>>>> get a 5-point harness for my computer chair, or I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>> be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
>>>>>>>>>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably ought to also get the tools out of my
>>>>>>>>>>>> toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor. Look, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously
>>>>>>>>>>>> strapped in, tipping over the chair in uncontrollable
>>>>>>>>>>>> paroxysms of hilariousness is a unique possibility at
>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of the day going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a
>>>>>>>>>>> world class Googler. I
>>>>>>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>>>>>>> know why he
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn’t
>>>>>>>>>>> google
>>>>>>>>>>> “
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Biden’s
>>>>>>>>>>> accomplishmentsâ€ÂÂ
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> regale us with that infinite list.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone,
>>>>>>>>>> he wasn't even able to figure out what an "AI test
>>>>>>>>>> question" is for. And I don't think I've ever known
>>>>>>>>>> anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe it's
>>>>>>>>>> congenital?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ask your AI friend to name all of
>>>>>>>>> Biden’s
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> positive accomplishments as president. That should be a
>>>>>>>>> hoot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my
>>>>>>>> friends. I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along
>>>>>>>> "model collapse" already is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> And as to your request (I also added Trump):
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>> list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
>>>>>>>> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs As a neutral AI language
>>>>>>>> model, I can provide an objective list of Joe Biden's
>>>>>>>> positive accomplishments during his presidency:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     COVID-19 Response:
>>>>>>>> Biden's administration was
>>>>>>>> successful in implementing policies to mitigate the spread of
>>>>>>>> COVID-19, such as vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and
>>>>>>>> social distancing measures. These efforts helped slow down
>>>>>>>> the pandemic and save countless lives. Â Â
>>>>>>>>   Economic
>>>>>>>> Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy experienced
>>>>>>>> a significant recovery from the Great Recession.
>>>>>>>> The president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory
>>>>>>>> reforms, and investments in infrastructure, which contributed
>>>>>>>> to economic growth and job creation. Â Â
>>>>>>>>   Climate Change
>>>>>>>> Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority by signing
>>>>>>>> executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
>>>>>>>> promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
>>>>>>>> negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed
>>>>>>>> at addressing global warming. Â Â
>>>>>>>>   Immigration
>>>>>>>> Reform: During Biden's term, there were several notable
>>>>>>>> immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
>>>>>>>> for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided
>>>>>>>> temporary protection to young undocumented immigrants who
>>>>>>>> came to the US as minors. Â Â
>>>>>>>>   Criminal Justice Reform:
>>>>>>>> Biden supported legislation aimed at reducing mass
>>>>>>>> incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems, and
>>>>>>>> providing support for victims of crime. His administration
>>>>>>>> also worked to address police brutality and systemic racial
>>>>>>>> disparities within law enforcement agencies. Â
>>>>>>>>   LGBTQ+
>>>>>>>> Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
>>>>>>>> throughout his political career. During his presidency, he
>>>>>>>> signed the Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+
>>>>>>>> individuals from discrimination based on their sexual
>>>>>>>> orientation or gender identity. Â Â
>>>>>>>>   Foreign Policy
>>>>>>>> Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy achievements included
>>>>>>>> the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of relations with
>>>>>>>> Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
>>>>>>>> Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in
>>>>>>>> shaping the response to the global refugee crisis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President LLaMa
>>>>>>>> served by Perplexity Labs It is important to note that
>>>>>>>> opinions about Donald Trump's presidency may vary widely
>>>>>>>> depending on one's perspective and experiences. However, here
>>>>>>>> are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency that
>>>>>>>> have been reported by various news outlets and
>>>>>>>> organizations:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Economic growth:
>>>>>>>> During Trump's presidency, the US
>>>>>>>> economy experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment
>>>>>>>> rates and rising stock market indices. Â Â
>>>>>>>>   Tax cuts:
>>>>>>>> Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which lowered
>>>>>>>> income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
>>>>>>>> been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer
>>>>>>>> spending. Â Â ÂÂÂ
>>>>>>>> Deregulation: Trump issued numerous
>>>>>>>> executive orders aimed at reducing regulations on businesses,
>>>>>>>> particularly in the energy and financial sectors. This has
>>>>>>>> led to increased efficiency and competition in these
>>>>>>>> industries.     Criminal
>>>>>>>> justice reform: Trump signed
>>>>>>>> the First Step Act in 2018, which aimed to reduce sentences
>>>>>>>> for nonviolent drug offenders and provide more resources for
>>>>>>>> rehabilitation programs. Â Â
>>>>>>>>   Military action: Trump
>>>>>>>> ordered military strikes against ISIS targets in Syria and
>>>>>>>> Yemen, which has been seen as a success in combating
>>>>>>>> terrorism.     Trade
>>>>>>>> deals: Trump renegotiated the
>>>>>>>> North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and
>>>>>>>> Mexico, resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada
>>>>>>>> Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one trade
>>>>>>>> agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and
>>>>>>>> increase trade between the two countries. Â
>>>>>>>>    Space
>>>>>>>> exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the moon
>>>>>>>> by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
>>>>>>>> surface. This marks a significant step forward in space
>>>>>>>> exploration and could pave the way for further human
>>>>>>>> settlements beyond Earth. Â Â
>>>>>>>>   Judicial appointments:
>>>>>>>> Trump appointed multiple conservative judges to federal
>>>>>>>> courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett Kavanaugh
>>>>>>>> and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
>>>>>>>> balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
>>>>>>>> Â
>>>>>>>>    Border security: Trump secured
>>>>>>>> funding for border
>>>>>>>> wall prototypes and took steps to enhance physical barriers
>>>>>>>> along the US-Mexico border. While the effectiveness of this
>>>>>>>> approach remains controversial, it has been praised by some
>>>>>>>> for its potential to deter illegal crossings. Â
>>>>>>>>   Voter
>>>>>>>> ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
>>>>>>>> present identification before casting their ballots in
>>>>>>>> certain states. This move has been criticized by some as an
>>>>>>>> attempt to suppress minority voting, but others see it as a
>>>>>>>> necessary step to prevent fraudulent votes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's
>>>>>>>> presidency and accomplishments will differ depending on
>>>>>>>> individual perspectives and beliefs. Some people may view
>>>>>>>> these accomplishments positively, while others might disagree
>>>>>>>> or consider them insignificant compared to other issues.
>>>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response
>>>>>>>> compared to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual
>>>>>>>> perspectives and beliefs" included with the Trump response.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased
>>>>>>>> as the average human. I further allege that unless their
>>>>>>>> 'parents' change how the damthings are "trained", they're
>>>>>>>> going to be both useless and dangerous.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They sound like mealy-mouthed retrumplicans, don't they?
>>>>>>> HawHawHaw!
>>>>>> Does that mean that you think Dimocrats are not mealy-mouthed? --
>>>>>>  bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any favorite Dimocrats, who you loves to hate,  as
>>>>> examples of their mealy-mouthism(s)?
>>>>
>>>> Can I have all of them?
>>>>
>>>>> BTW, just prezactly what does
>>>>> "mealy-mouth", mean to you?
>>>>
>>>> : not plain and straightforward : devious
>>>
>>> You mean like, "All I want to do is this: I just want to find
>>> 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won this
>>> state, and flipping the state is a great testament to the country,"
>>> Trump said. "I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes.
>>> Give me a break." "It's just not possible to have lost Georgia.
>>> It's not possible," Trump said.?
>>>
>>> HawHawHaw!
>>
>> Nothing mealy-mouthed about that. "plain and straight forward". It's
>> what he thought/thinks - straight from his brain to your ears/eyes.
>>
>>>> What does it mean to you?
>
> It's clear Trump is unprincipled mealy-brained.


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bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
> George.Anthony wrote:
>> bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>>> George.Anthony wrote:
>>>> bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
>>>>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>>>>> On Wednesday, September 6, 2023 at 11:50:45 AM UTC-7, bfh wrote:
>>>>>>> how do i boil an egg so that it peels easily every time?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To conserve letters and words, I'm just going to include the part
>>>>>>> that has the least consensus among the AIs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- Bard Use older
>>>>>>> eggs. Fresh eggs are more difficult to peel because the membrane
>>>>>>> is more tightly attached to the shell.
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------- Bing chat Use
>>>>>>> eggs that are at least 7 to 10 days old. Many people find that
>>>>>>> the fresher an egg is, the more difficult it is to peel.
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- LLaMa Use
>>>>>>> fresh eggs: Fresh eggs will be much easier to peel than older
>>>>>>> eggs, which may have a thicker shell.
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So far, it's Old - 2, Fresh - 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------ ChatGPT Start
>>>>>>> with fresh eggs. Older eggs tend to peel more easily than very
>>>>>>> fresh ones. ------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So there you have it. ChatGPT settles the fresh/older controversy
>>>>>>> by being equitable and inclusive. It recommends that you start
>>>>>>> with fresh older eggs. And BTW, is a fresh older egg different
>>>>>>> from an older fresh egg, and if so, what are the approximate
>>>>>>> temporal metrics of each?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the 4 AIs were running for President, which one would you vote
>>>>>>> for? Or alternatively, which science would you follow?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- bill Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll pass on the bafflegab. If you want you eggs to peel easily
>>>>>> don't put them in the water until you have brought it to the
>>>>>> boiling point. It helps if you chill them quickly in ice water
>>>>>> after you've cooked them, but that isn't completely necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL!
>>>>> Unfortunately, I have never met an expert in everything....everything
>>>>> except maybe in Bud Light advertising analytics....because I've never
>>>>> literally met you. You're a hoot TB. A real literal hoot. Now that I'm
>>>>> getting old and brittle, I'm gonna have to get a 5-point harness for
>>>>> my computer chair, or I'll be reading RORT on my phone from a hospital
>>>>> bed..............and in an abundance of caution, I probably ought to
>>>>> also get the tools out of my toolbox and bolt the chair to the floor.
>>>>> Look, I mean, like, you know, even being efficaciously strapped in,
>>>>> tipping over the chair in uncontrollable paroxysms of hilariousness is
>>>>> a unique possibility at the end of the day going forward.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He is only a thinks he knows it all. What he is, is a world class Googler.
>>>> I don’t know why he doesn’t google “ Biden’s
>>>> accomplishments” and regale us
>>>> with that infinite list.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And apparently he's always so eager to jump on someone, he wasn't even
>>> able to figure out what an "AI test question" is for. And I don't
>>> think I've ever known anybody as cocked and locked as he is. Maybe
>>> it's congenital?
>>>
>>
>> Ask your AI friend to name all of Biden’s positive accomplishments as
>> president. That should be a hoot.
>>
> Whoa hey waitaminnit there........the damthings are not my friends.
> I'm just trying to get a self-idea of how far along "model collapse"
> already is.
>
> https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-model-collapse-threatens-to-break-internet-2023-8
>
> And as to your request (I also added Trump):
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> list the positive accomplishments of Biden as President
> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
> As a neutral AI language model, I can provide an objective list of Joe
> Biden's positive accomplishments during his presidency:
>
> COVID-19 Response: Biden's administration was successful in
> implementing policies to mitigate the spread of COVID-19, such as
> vaccination efforts, mask mandates, and social distancing measures.
> These efforts helped slow down the pandemic and save countless lives.
> Economic Recovery: Under Biden's leadership, the US economy
> experienced a significant recovery from the Great Recession. The
> president implemented policies like tax cuts, regulatory reforms, and
> investments in infrastructure, which contributed to economic growth
> and job creation.
> Climate Change Initiatives: Biden made climate change a priority
> by signing executive orders aimed at reducing carbon emissions and
> promoting clean energy sources. He also played a key role in
> negotiating the Paris Agreement, an international accord aimed at
> addressing global warming.
> Immigration Reform: During Biden's term, there were several
> notable immigration reform initiatives, including the Deferred Action
> for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which provided temporary
> protection to young undocumented immigrants who came to the US as minors.
> Criminal Justice Reform: Biden supported legislation aimed at
> reducing mass incarceration rates, improving criminal justice systems,
> and providing support for victims of crime. His administration also
> worked to address police brutality and systemic racial disparities
> within law enforcement agencies.
> LGBTQ+ Rights: Biden has been a strong advocate for LGBTQ+ rights
> throughout his political career. During his presidency, he signed the
> Equality Act, which aimed to protect LGBTQ+ individuals from
> discrimination based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.
> Foreign Policy Accomplishments: Biden's foreign policy
> achievements included the Iran nuclear deal, the normalization of
> relations with Cuba, and the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
> Additionally, his administration played a crucial role in shaping the
> response to the global refugee crisis.
>
> list the positive accomplishments of Trump as President
> LLaMa served by Perplexity Labs
> It is important to note that opinions about Donald Trump's presidency
> may vary widely depending on one's perspective and experiences.
> However, here are some positive accomplishments of Trump's presidency
> that have been reported by various news outlets and organizations:
>
> Economic growth: During Trump's presidency, the US economy
> experienced a period of growth, with low unemployment rates and rising
> stock market indices.
> Tax cuts: Trump signed the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, which
> lowered income taxes for individuals and businesses. This measure has
> been credited with boosting economic growth and consumer spending.
> Deregulation: Trump issued numerous executive orders aimed at
> reducing regulations on businesses, particularly in the energy and
> financial sectors. This has led to increased efficiency and
> competition in these industries.
> Criminal justice reform: Trump signed the First Step Act in 2018,
> which aimed to reduce sentences for nonviolent drug offenders and
> provide more resources for rehabilitation programs.
> Military action: Trump ordered military strikes against ISIS
> targets in Syria and Yemen, which has been seen as a success in
> combating terrorism.
> Trade deals: Trump renegotiated the North American Free Trade
> Agreement (NAFTA) with Canada and Mexico, resulting in the United
> States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA). He also reached a phase one
> trade agreement with China, which aimed to reduce tariffs and increase
> trade between the two countries.
> Space exploration: Trump directed NASA to return humans to the
> moon by 2024 and establish a sustainable presence on the lunar
> surface. This marks a significant step forward in space exploration
> and could pave the way for further human settlements beyond Earth.
> Judicial appointments: Trump appointed multiple conservative
> judges to federal courts, including two Supreme Court justices (Brett
> Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch). This has shifted the court's ideological
> balance and influenced legal decisions for years to come.
> Border security: Trump secured funding for border wall prototypes
> and took steps to enhance physical barriers along the US-Mexico
> border. While the effectiveness of this approach remains
> controversial, it has been praised by some for its potential to deter
> illegal crossings.
> Voter ID laws: Trump signed bills into law requiring voters to
> present identification before casting their ballots in certain states.
> This move has been criticized by some as an attempt to suppress
> minority voting, but others see it as a necessary step to prevent
> fraudulent votes.
>
> It is essential to remember that opinions about Trump's presidency and
> accomplishments will differ depending on individual perspectives and
> beliefs. Some people may view these accomplishments positively, while
> others might disagree or consider them insignificant compared to other
> issues.
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> Note the claim of objectivity included in the Biden response compared
> to 2 disclaimers of "depending on individual perspectives and beliefs"
> included with the Trump response.
>
> I allege that these things are as weasel-mouthed and biased as the
> average human. I further allege that unless their 'parents' change how
> the damthings are "trained", they're going to be both useless and
> dangerous.
>


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