Sent to me by a fellow conservative. It's exactly how I deal with
rattlesnakes.
___________________________________________________________________
Rattlesnake Logic In Dealing With Terrorists

After the Boston bombing the news media spent days and weeks trying to
determine why these men did what they did. They want to know what
America did to make these brothers so angry with us.

They want to know why these men were not arrested before they did
something so terrible.

The media is in a tizzy about this new era of home-grown radicals and
about why and how they can live among us and still hate us.

A Texan explained it:

Here in west Texas I have rattlesnakes on my place, living among us.

I have killed a rattlesnake on the front porch. I have killed a
rattlesnake on the back porch.

I have killed rattlesnakes in the barn, in the shop and on the driveway.

In fact, I kill every rattlesnake I encounter. I kill rattlesnakes
because I know a rattlesnake will bite me and inject me with poison. I
don't stop to wonder WHY a rattlesnake will bite me;

I know it WILL bite me because it's a rattlesnake and that's what
rattlesnakes do.

I don't try to reason with a rattlesnake or have a "meaningful
dialogue" with it. I just kill it.

I don't try to get to know the rattlesnake better so I can find a way
to live with the rattlesnakes and convince them not to bite me.. I just
kill them.

I don't quiz a rattlesnake to see if I can find out where the other
snakes are, because (a) it won't tell me and (b) I already know they
live on my place. So, I just kill the rattlesnake and move on to the
next one.

I don't look for ways I might be able to change the rattlesnake to a
non-poisonous rat snake. I just kill it. Oh, and on occasion, I
accidentally kill a rat snake because I thought it was a rattlesnake at
the time.

Also, I know for every rattlesnake I kill, two more are lurking out
there in the brush. In my lifetime I will never be able to rid my place
of rattlesnakes.

Do I fear them? Not really. Do I respect what they can do to me and
my family? Yes!

And because of that respect, I give them the fair justice they
deserve. I kill them. As a country, we should start giving more
thought to the fact that these jihadists' are telling the world their
goal is to kill Americans and destroy our way of life.
--
Joe Biden could screw up a one float parade.

On 11/5/2023 10:26 AM, Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 7:49:47 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony wrote:
>> Sent to me by a fellow conservative. It's exactly how I deal with
>> rattlesnakes.
>> ___________________________________________________________________
>> Rattlesnake Logic In Dealing With Terrorists
>>
>> After the Boston bombing the news media spent days and weeks trying to
>> determine why these men did what they did. They want to know what
>> America did to make these brothers so angry with us.
>>
>> They want to know why these men were not arrested before they did
>> something so terrible.
>>
>> The media is in a tizzy about this new era of home-grown radicals and
>> about why and how they can live among us and still hate us.
>>
>>
>>
>> A Texan explained it:
>>
>> Here in west Texas I have rattlesnakes on my place, living among us.
>>
>> I have killed a rattlesnake on the front porch. I have killed a
>> rattlesnake on the back porch.
>>
>> I have killed rattlesnakes in the barn, in the shop and on the driveway.
>>
>> In fact, I kill every rattlesnake I encounter. I kill rattlesnakes
>> because I know a rattlesnake will bite me and inject me with poison. I
>> don't stop to wonder WHY a rattlesnake will bite me;
>>
>> I know it WILL bite me because it's a rattlesnake and that's what
>> rattlesnakes do.
>>
>> I don't try to reason with a rattlesnake or have a "meaningful
>> dialogue" with it. I just kill it.
>>
>> I don't try to get to know the rattlesnake better so I can find a way
>> to live with the rattlesnakes and convince them not to bite me.. I just
>> kill them.
>>
>> I don't quiz a rattlesnake to see if I can find out where the other
>> snakes are, because (a) it won't tell me and (b) I already know they
>> live on my place. So, I just kill the rattlesnake and move on to the
>> next one.
>>
>> I don't look for ways I might be able to change the rattlesnake to a
>> non-poisonous rat snake. I just kill it. Oh, and on occasion, I
>> accidentally kill a rat snake because I thought it was a rattlesnake at
>> the time.
>>
>> Also, I know for every rattlesnake I kill, two more are lurking out
>> there in the brush. In my lifetime I will never be able to rid my place
>> of rattlesnakes.
>>
>> Do I fear them? Not really. Do I respect what they can do to me and
>> my family? Yes!
>>
>> And because of that respect, I give them the fair justice they
>> deserve. I kill them. As a country, we should start giving more
>> thought to the fact that these jihadists' are telling the world their
>> goal is to kill Americans and destroy our way of life.
>> --
>> Joe Biden could screw up a one float parade.
>
> "According to the CDC there are between 7,000 and 8,000 bites per year in the U.S. – this counts all venomous snakes, all across the country – resulting in approximately five deaths per year. That is already a miniscule percentage, but looking closer at the data shows who’s really at risk:
>
> 55 percent of bite victims are men between the ages of 17 and 27
> 85 percent of bites are on the hand or fingers
> 28 percent of bite victims are intoxicated"
>
> https://sonomaecologycenter.org/the-real-numbers-on-rattlesnake-bites/#:~:text=55%20percent%20of%20bite%20victims,of%20bite%20victims%20are%20intoxicated
>
> IOW most of the people who get bit are handling the snake. I worked in Sabino Canyon outside of Tucson for a couple of years. That place is full of snakes (and Gila Monsters). The Forest service built a shelter with benches. The benches used cider blocks for a base and then had a wood platform on top of that. The rattlers liked to get in those benches between the cinder blocks and the wood. More than once I saw a rattler crawl out from under some tourist and out between their feet, on their way back to the desert. As long as no one bothered them they didn't even coil up or make any noise. This did tend to make the tourists more alert.
>
> A common technique for fascists is to dehumanize people. Make them into an animal that's less than a human being.
>
> TB

You just can't help yourself, can you?
--
Joe Biden could screw up a one float parade.

Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 7:49:47 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony
> wrote:
>> Sent to me by a fellow conservative. It's exactly how I deal
>> with rattlesnakes.
>> ___________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
Rattlesnake Logic In Dealing With Terrorists
>>
>> After the Boston bombing the news media spent days and weeks
>> trying to determine why these men did what they did. They want to
>> know what America did to make these brothers so angry with us.
>>
>> They want to know why these men were not arrested before they
>> did something so terrible.
>>
>> The media is in a tizzy about this new era of home-grown radicals
>> and about why and how they can live among us and still hate us.
>>
>>
>>
>> A Texan explained it:
>>
>> Here in west Texas I have rattlesnakes on my place, living among
>> us.
>>
>> I have killed a rattlesnake on the front porch. I have killed a
>> rattlesnake on the back porch.
>>
>> I have killed rattlesnakes in the barn, in the shop and on the
>> driveway.
>>
>> In fact, I kill every rattlesnake I encounter. I kill
>> rattlesnakes because I know a rattlesnake will bite me and inject
>> me with poison. I don't stop to wonder WHY a rattlesnake will
>> bite me;
>>
>> I know it WILL bite me because it's a rattlesnake and that's
>> what rattlesnakes do.
>>
>> I don't try to reason with a rattlesnake or have a "meaningful
>> dialogue" with it. I just kill it.
>>
>> I don't try to get to know the rattlesnake better so I can find a
>> way to live with the rattlesnakes and convince them not to bite
>> me.. I just kill them.
>>
>> I don't quiz a rattlesnake to see if I can find out where the
>> other snakes are, because (a) it won't tell me and (b) I already
>> know they live on my place. So, I just kill the rattlesnake and
>> move on to the next one.
>>
>> I don't look for ways I might be able to change the rattlesnake
>> to a non-poisonous rat snake. I just kill it. Oh, and on
>> occasion, I accidentally kill a rat snake because I thought it
>> was a rattlesnake at the time.
>>
>> Also, I know for every rattlesnake I kill, two more are lurking
>> out there in the brush. In my lifetime I will never be able to
>> rid my place of rattlesnakes.
>>
>> Do I fear them? Not really. Do I respect what they can do to me
>> and my family? Yes!
>>
>> And because of that respect, I give them the fair justice they
>> deserve. I kill them. As a country, we should start giving more
>> thought to the fact that these jihadists' are telling the world
>> their goal is to kill Americans and destroy our way of life. --
>> Joe Biden could screw up a one float parade.
>
> "According to the CDC there are between 7,000 and 8,000 bites per
> year in the U.S. – this counts all venomous snakes, all across
> the country – resulting in approximately five deaths per year.
> That is already a miniscule percentage, but looking closer at the
> data shows who’s really at risk:
>
> 55 percent of bite victims are men between the ages of 17 and 27 85
> percent of bites are on the hand or fingers 28 percent of bite
> victims are intoxicated"
>
> https://sonomaecologycenter.org/the-real-numbers-on-rattlesnake-bites/#:~:text=55%20percent%20of%20bite%20victims,of%20bite%20victims%20are%20intoxicated
>
> IOW most of the people who get bit are handling the snake. I
> worked in Sabino Canyon outside of Tucson for a couple of years.
> That place is full of snakes (and Gila Monsters). The Forest
> service built a shelter with benches. The benches used cider blocks
> for a base and then had a wood platform on top of that. The
> rattlers liked to get in those benches between the cinder blocks
> and the wood. More than once I saw a rattler crawl out from under
> some tourist and out between their feet, on their way back to the
> desert. As long as no one bothered them they didn't even coil up or
> make any noise. This did tend to make the tourists more alert.

Who really knows what bothers a snake? When I was stationed in Tucson,
we hunted quail behind Picacho Peak. When one guy reached in a bush
for a quail he had shot, a rattler hit his hand. He was neither
intoxicated, nor handling the snake, nor 'bothering' it.

In the nearly 40 years I've been living here, I've killed 3 rattlers
in my yard. And then what happens? My wife got bitten by a gray rat
snake that she wasn't 'bothering'. However comma I still don't kill
non-poisonous snakes.............and counter to my wife's demand - who
wanted it immediately terminated with extreme prejudice - I didn't
kill that one, either.

Myownself has been bitten by yellow rat snake, a coachwhip snake, and
even a hog-nosed snake - which is allegedly supposed to not
bite.....but in the interest of transparency, I must admit that I was
probably 'bothering' them. But I was not intoxicated.

As an aside, there once was a guy here in the neighborhood who
collected rattlesnakes, milked them and sold the venom, and also put
on demonstrations at local schools. The 4th time he got bitten
collecting or milking, he died. Later on his son, who is not a
vengeful person, managed to release - in numerous trips - all 114 of
them out in the woods somewhere without getting bitten. I guess the
snakes realized that they weren't being 'bothered'.

> A common technique for fascists is to dehumanize people. Make them
> into an animal that's less than a human being.

Some people Are animals that are less than human beings.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

On 11/5/2023 12:13 PM, bfh wrote:
> Technobarbarian wrote:
>> On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 7:49:47 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony
>> wrote:
>>> Sent to me by a fellow conservative. It's exactly how I deal
>>> with rattlesnakes.
>>> ___________________________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
> Rattlesnake Logic In Dealing With Terrorists
>>>
>>> After the Boston bombing the news media spent days and weeks
>>> trying to determine why these men did what they did. They want to
>>> know what America did to make these brothers so angry with us.
>>>
>>> They want to know why these men were not arrested before they
>>> did something so terrible.
>>>
>>> The media is in a tizzy about this new era of home-grown radicals
>>> and about why and how they can live among us and still hate us.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A Texan explained it:
>>>
>>> Here in west Texas I have rattlesnakes on my place, living among
>>> us.
>>>
>>> I have killed a rattlesnake on the front porch. I have killed a
>>> rattlesnake on the back porch.
>>>
>>> I have killed rattlesnakes in the barn, in the shop and on the
>>> driveway.
>>>
>>> In fact, I kill every rattlesnake I encounter. I kill
>>> rattlesnakes because I know a rattlesnake will bite me and inject
>>> me with poison. I don't stop to wonder WHY a rattlesnake will
>>> bite me;
>>>
>>> I know it WILL bite me because it's a rattlesnake and that's
>>> what rattlesnakes do.
>>>
>>> I don't try to reason with a rattlesnake or have a "meaningful
>>> dialogue" with it. I just kill it.
>>>
>>> I don't try to get to know the rattlesnake better so I can find a
>>> way to live with the rattlesnakes and convince them not to bite
>>> me.. I just kill them.
>>>
>>> I don't quiz a rattlesnake to see if I can find out where the
>>> other snakes are, because (a) it won't tell me and (b) I already
>>> know they live on my place. So, I just kill the rattlesnake and
>>> move on to the next one.
>>>
>>> I don't look for ways I might be able to change the rattlesnake
>>> to a non-poisonous rat snake. I just kill it. Oh, and on
>>> occasion, I accidentally kill a rat snake because I thought it
>>> was a rattlesnake at the time.
>>>
>>> Also, I know for every rattlesnake I kill, two more are lurking
>>> out there in the brush. In my lifetime I will never be able to
>>> rid my place of rattlesnakes.
>>>
>>> Do I fear them? Not really. Do I respect what they can do to me
>>> and my family? Yes!
>>>
>>> And because of that respect, I give them the fair justice they
>>> deserve. I kill them. As a country, we should start giving more
>>> thought to the fact that these jihadists' are telling the world
>>> their goal is to kill Americans and destroy our way of life. -- Joe
>>> Biden could screw up a one float parade.
>>
>> "According to the CDC there are between 7,000 and 8,000 bites per
>> year in the U.S. – this counts all venomous snakes, all across
>> the country – resulting in approximately five deaths per year.
>> That is already a miniscule percentage, but looking closer at the
>> data shows who’s really at risk:
>>
>> 55 percent of bite victims are men between the ages of 17 and 27 85
>> percent of bites are on the hand or fingers 28 percent of bite
>> victims are intoxicated"
>>
>> https://sonomaecologycenter.org/the-real-numbers-on-rattlesnake-bites/#:~:text=55%20percent%20of%20bite%20victims,of%20bite%20victims%20are%20intoxicated
>>
>>  IOW most of the people who get bit are handling the snake. I
>> worked in Sabino Canyon outside of Tucson for a couple of years.
>> That place is full of snakes (and Gila Monsters). The Forest
>> service built a shelter with benches. The benches used cider blocks
>> for a base and then had a wood platform on top of that. The
>> rattlers liked to get in those benches between the cinder blocks
>> and the wood. More than once I saw a rattler crawl out from under
>> some tourist and out between their feet, on their way back to the
>> desert. As long as no one bothered them they didn't even coil up or
>> make any noise. This did tend to make the tourists more alert.
>
> Who really knows what bothers a snake? When I was stationed in Tucson,
> we hunted quail behind Picacho Peak. When one guy reached in a bush for
> a quail he had shot, a rattler hit his hand. He was neither intoxicated,
> nor handling the snake, nor 'bothering' it.
>
> In the nearly 40 years I've been living here, I've killed 3 rattlers in
> my yard. And then what happens? My wife got bitten by a gray rat snake
> that she wasn't 'bothering'. However comma I still don't kill
> non-poisonous snakes.............and counter to my wife's demand - who
> wanted it immediately terminated with extreme prejudice -  I didn't kill
> that one, either.
>
> Myownself has been bitten by yellow rat snake, a coachwhip snake, and
> even a hog-nosed snake - which is allegedly supposed to not bite.....but
> in the interest of transparency, I must admit that I was probably
> 'bothering' them. But I was not intoxicated.
>
> As an aside, there once was a guy here in the neighborhood who collected
> rattlesnakes, milked them and sold the venom, and also put on
> demonstrations at local schools. The 4th time he got bitten collecting
> or milking, he died. Later on his son, who is not a vengeful person,
> managed to release - in numerous trips - all 114 of them out in the
> woods somewhere without getting bitten. I guess the snakes realized that
> they weren't being 'bothered'.
>
>> A common technique for fascists is to dehumanize people. Make them
>> into an animal that's less than a human being.
>
> Some people Are animals that are less than human beings.
>

I ate the only rattlesnake I ever killed. You know what it tasted like...

kmiller wrote:
> On 11/5/2023 12:13 PM, bfh wrote:
>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 7:49:47 AM UTC-8, George.Anthony
>>> wrote:
>>>> Sent to me by a fellow conservative. It's exactly how I deal
>>>> with rattlesnakes.
>>>> ___________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>>
>> Rattlesnake Logic In Dealing With Terrorists
>>>>
>>>> After the Boston bombing the news media spent days and weeks
>>>> trying to determine why these men did what they did. They want to
>>>> know what America did to make these brothers so angry with us.
>>>>
>>>> They want to know why these men were not arrested before they
>>>> did something so terrible.
>>>>
>>>> The media is in a tizzy about this new era of home-grown radicals
>>>> and about why and how they can live among us and still hate us.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A Texan explained it:
>>>>
>>>> Here in west Texas I have rattlesnakes on my place, living among
>>>> us.
>>>>
>>>> I have killed a rattlesnake on the front porch. I have killed a
>>>> rattlesnake on the back porch.
>>>>
>>>> I have killed rattlesnakes in the barn, in the shop and on the
>>>> driveway.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, I kill every rattlesnake I encounter. I kill
>>>> rattlesnakes because I know a rattlesnake will bite me and inject
>>>> me with poison. I don't stop to wonder WHY a rattlesnake will
>>>> bite me;
>>>>
>>>> I know it WILL bite me because it's a rattlesnake and that's
>>>> what rattlesnakes do.
>>>>
>>>> I don't try to reason with a rattlesnake or have a "meaningful
>>>> dialogue" with it. I just kill it.
>>>>
>>>> I don't try to get to know the rattlesnake better so I can find a
>>>> way to live with the rattlesnakes and convince them not to bite
>>>> me.. I just kill them.
>>>>
>>>> I don't quiz a rattlesnake to see if I can find out where the
>>>> other snakes are, because (a) it won't tell me and (b) I already
>>>> know they live on my place. So, I just kill the rattlesnake and
>>>> move on to the next one.
>>>>
>>>> I don't look for ways I might be able to change the rattlesnake
>>>> to a non-poisonous rat snake. I just kill it. Oh, and on
>>>> occasion, I accidentally kill a rat snake because I thought it
>>>> was a rattlesnake at the time.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I know for every rattlesnake I kill, two more are lurking
>>>> out there in the brush. In my lifetime I will never be able to
>>>> rid my place of rattlesnakes.
>>>>
>>>> Do I fear them? Not really. Do I respect what they can do to me
>>>> and my family? Yes!
>>>>
>>>> And because of that respect, I give them the fair justice they
>>>> deserve. I kill them. As a country, we should start giving more
>>>> thought to the fact that these jihadists' are telling the world
>>>> their goal is to kill Americans and destroy our way of life. --
>>>> Joe Biden could screw up a one float parade.
>>>
>>> "According to the CDC there are between 7,000 and 8,000 bites per
>>> year in the U.S. – this counts all venomous snakes, all across
>>> the country – resulting in approximately five deaths per year.
>>> That is already a miniscule percentage, but looking closer at the
>>> data shows who’s really at risk:
>>>
>>> 55 percent of bite victims are men between the ages of 17 and 27 85
>>> percent of bites are on the hand or fingers 28 percent of bite
>>> victims are intoxicated"
>>>
>>> https://sonomaecologycenter.org/the-real-numbers-on-rattlesnake-bites/#:~:text=55%20percent%20of%20bite%20victims,of%20bite%20victims%20are%20intoxicated
>>>
>>>
>>>  IOW most of the people who get bit are handling the snake. I
>>> worked in Sabino Canyon outside of Tucson for a couple of years.
>>> That place is full of snakes (and Gila Monsters). The Forest
>>> service built a shelter with benches. The benches used cider blocks
>>> for a base and then had a wood platform on top of that. The
>>> rattlers liked to get in those benches between the cinder blocks
>>> and the wood. More than once I saw a rattler crawl out from under
>>> some tourist and out between their feet, on their way back to the
>>> desert. As long as no one bothered them they didn't even coil up or
>>> make any noise. This did tend to make the tourists more alert.
>>
>> Who really knows what bothers a snake? When I was stationed in
>> Tucson, we hunted quail behind Picacho Peak. When one guy reached in
>> a bush for a quail he had shot, a rattler hit his hand. He was
>> neither intoxicated, nor handling the snake, nor 'bothering' it.
>>
>> In the nearly 40 years I've been living here, I've killed 3 rattlers
>> in my yard. And then what happens? My wife got bitten by a gray rat
>> snake that she wasn't 'bothering'. However comma I still don't kill
>> non-poisonous snakes.............and counter to my wife's demand -
>> who wanted it immediately terminated with extreme prejudice -  I
>> didn't kill that one, either.
>>
>> Myownself has been bitten by yellow rat snake, a coachwhip snake,
>> and even a hog-nosed snake - which is allegedly supposed to not
>> bite.....but in the interest of transparency, I must admit that I
>> was probably 'bothering' them. But I was not intoxicated.
>>
>> As an aside, there once was a guy here in the neighborhood who
>> collected rattlesnakes, milked them and sold the venom, and also put
>> on demonstrations at local schools. The 4th time he got bitten
>> collecting or milking, he died. Later on his son, who is not a
>> vengeful person, managed to release - in numerous trips - all 114 of
>> them out in the woods somewhere without getting bitten. I guess the
>> snakes realized that they weren't being 'bothered'.
>>
>>> A common technique for fascists is to dehumanize people. Make them
>>> into an animal that's less than a human being.
>>
>> Some people Are animals that are less than human beings.
>>
>
> I ate the only rattlesnake I ever killed. You know what it tasted like...

Yep. During survival training in Panama in a previous life, I ate
iguana tails......but it was better than chicken. Those people in FL
who have iguanas falling out of trees are missing the boat if they
don't eat them.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.