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 by: bfh - Mon, 27 Nov 2023 21:15 UTC

Technobarbarian wrote:
> "While it is known that many Californians looking to leave the
> Golden State often choose Texas as their new home, new statistics
> indicate that a growing number of Texans are making their home in
> California.
>
> Data obtained from the United States Census Bureau by the Houston
> Chronicle on state-to-state migration shows that California
> welcomed 42,279 Texans as new residents in 2022, the most of any
> state.
>
> One major motivator when it comes to relocating is how much
> residents are paid; according to Forbes, the average salary in
> Texas for 2023 is $57,300, which ranks 24th in the nation. The
> average Californian’s salary is $73,220, which is third highest
> in America only behind New York ($74,870) and Massachusetts
> ($76,600)." [snip]
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/californians-leaving-texas-may-replaced-231450564.html

Sort of an asymmetrical exchange - like the Israeli-Hamas
hostage/prisoner swap.

TX had about a 230,000 gain, while CA had 343,000 loss. Not much
"replacement" going on there. I realize that's not just due to a TX/CA
exchange, but people are bailing out of CA in greater numbers than any
other state. However comma when you consider percent of population
change, 9 other states had a worse loss. OTOH, only 3 other states had
a higher gain than TX.
https://www.nar.realtor/blogs/economists-outlook/where-people-moved-in-2022

When you consider the income required to "live comfortably" - 50K for
TX and 80K for CA - CA loses again.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/poverty/4179830-this-is-how-much-singles-need-to-live-comfortably-in-every-state/

You say that Texans make 57K and Californians make 75K. That puts
Texans 7K ahead of the game, and Californians 5K behind it - which I
allege makes income an irrational deciding factor for moving from TX
to CA. One can easily be tempted to speculate that it's uniquely
possible that many of those moving from TX to CA might be dumbasses
suffering from various intensities of MAGAphobia.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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 by: bfh - Tue, 28 Nov 2023 00:17 UTC

Technobarbarian wrote:
> On Monday, November 27, 2023 at 1:15:28 PM UTC-8, bfh wrote:
>> Technobarbarian wrote:
>>> "While it is known that many Californians looking to leave the
>>> Golden State often choose Texas as their new home, new statistics
>>> indicate that a growing number of Texans are making their home in
>>> California.
>>>
>>> Data obtained from the United States Census Bureau by the Houston
>>> Chronicle on state-to-state migration shows that California
>>> welcomed 42,279 Texans as new residents in 2022, the most of any
>>> state.
>>>
>>> One major motivator when it comes to relocating is how much
>>> residents are paid; according to Forbes, the average salary in
>>> Texas for 2023 is $57,300, which ranks 24th in the nation. The
>>> average Californian’s salary is $73,220, which is third highest
>>> in America only behind New York ($74,870) and Massachusetts
>>> ($76,600)." [snip]
>>>
>>> https://www.yahoo.com/news/californians-leaving-texas-may-replaced-231450564.html
>> Sort of an asymmetrical exchange - like the Israeli-Hamas
>> hostage/prisoner swap.
>>
>> TX had about a 230,000 gain, while CA had 343,000 loss. Not much
>> "replacement" going on there. I realize that's not just due to a TX/CA
>> exchange, but people are bailing out of CA in greater numbers than any
>> other state. However comma when you consider percent of population
>> change, 9 other states had a worse loss. OTOH, only 3 other states had
>> a higher gain than TX.
>> https://www.nar.realtor/blogs/economists-outlook/where-people-moved-in-2022
>>
>> When you consider the income required to "live comfortably" - 50K for
>> TX and 80K for CA - CA loses again.
>> https://thehill.com/changing-america/respect/poverty/4179830-this-is-how-much-singles-need-to-live-comfortably-in-every-state/
>>
>> You say that Texans make 57K and Californians make 75K. That puts
>> Texans 7K ahead of the game, and Californians 5K behind it - which I
>> allege makes income an irrational deciding factor for moving from TX
>> to CA. One can easily be tempted to speculate that it's uniquely
>> possible that many of those moving from TX to CA might be dumbasses
>> suffering from various intensities of MAGAphobia.
>>
>> --
>> bill
>> Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.
>
> I'm not saying anything. I'm just passing on a cute story. It looks like you had fun with it.

Oh. Right. I forgot about that. Sorry. Carry on.

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.


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