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by: useapen - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23 UTC

The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial risks
relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the Israel-
Hamas conflict.

The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year student
from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and would
give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release Monday, the
university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after the
discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."

The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to the
university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an Instagram bio
that links to a pro-Palestine website.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/

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by: Trent James - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:10 UTC

On 4/16/2024 11:23 PM, useapen wrote:
> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial risks
> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the Israel-
> Hamas conflict.
>
> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year student
> from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and would
> give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release Monday, the
> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after the
> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>
> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to the
> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an Instagram bio
> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/

Put her and that ugly cunt Rashida Tlaib in a bomb bay and open it over
Israel.

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by: NoBody - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 11:20 UTC

On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
<yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:

>The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial risks
>relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the Israel-
>Hamas conflict.
>
>The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year student
>from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and would
>give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release Monday, the
>university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after the
>discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>
>The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to the
>university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an Instagram bio
>that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>
>https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/

Nothing like silencing free speech.

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by: Lee - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:24 UTC

NoBody wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> > The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will
> > no longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing
> > "substantial risks relating to security" over social media chatter
> > surrounding the Israel- Hamas conflict.
> >
> > The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
> > student from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the
> > valedictorian and would give a speech alongside two salutatorians.
> > In a news release Monday, the university said she would no longer
> > speak at the ceremony after the discussion about her selection took
> > on "an alarming tenor."
> >
> > The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to
> > the university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an
> > Instagram bio that links to a pro-Palestine website.
> >
> > https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels
> > - valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>
> Nothing like silencing free speech.

"Silencing free speecch", indeed.

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by: Lil-man-ball - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 15:49 UTC

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> Trump orders two ex-White House
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Eggseletne!

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by: Max Boot - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 16:23 UTC

On 4/17/2024 4:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial risks
>> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the Israel-
>> Hamas conflict.
>>
>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year student
>>from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and would
>> give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release Monday, the
>> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after the
>> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>
>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to the
>> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an Instagram bio
>> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>
>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>
> Nothing like silencing free speech.

This is speech that you want to be suppressed. The valedictorian is
pro-Palestine, and you, with your knee-jerk pro-Israel stance, want people with
her views to be prevented from speaking.

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by: Lil-man-ball - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 16:37 UTC

On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:23:04 -0700
Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> wrote:

> knee-jerk pro
Poor Phil Hendry/tRudy Canoza, he wanted all the notoriety the late Art
Bell had in the fringe radio market, but everyone hated him for his
manipulative voice-overs of characters that existed only in his
tortured mind.

In essence tRudy used Phil's functional mental illness as a proxy for
his own decrepit schizophrenia and MPD.

Bit of a case of life imitating art, this one is...

Well sheeitburgers from Suckramento...here he goes again!

It's another tRudy sock up:

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Now tRudy, can you fire up your Gunner Asch sock too?

You pathetic slithering traitor to America.

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by: max headroom - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 16:43 UTC

In news:H_KcnREHK-oDdIL7nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com, Lee <cleetis@gmail.com>
typed:

> NoBody wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:

>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will
>>> no longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing
>>> "substantial risks relating to security" over social media chatter
>>> surrounding the Israel- Hamas conflict.

>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
>>> student from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the
>>> valedictorian and would give a speech alongside two salutatorians.
>>> In a news release Monday, the university said she would no longer
>>> speak at the ceremony after the discussion about her selection took
>>> on "an alarming tenor."

>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to
>>> the university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an
>>> Instagram bio that links to a pro-Palestine website.

>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels
>>> - valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/

>> Nothing like silencing free speech.

> "Silencing free speecch", indeed.

> Trump ...

'Nuff said.

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by: John Simons - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 18:32 UTC

On 17 Apr 2024, Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> posted some
news:JHSTN.11538$zWO8.7257@fx17.iad:

> On 4/17/2024 4:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial
>>> risks relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding
>>> the Israel- Hamas conflict.
>>>
>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
>>> student
>>>from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and
>>>would
>>> give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release Monday,
>>> the university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after
>>> the discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>
>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to
>>> the university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an
>>> Instagram bio that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>
>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>
>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>
> This is speech that you want to be suppressed. The valedictorian is
> pro-Palestine, and you, with your knee-jerk pro-Israel stance, want
> people with her views to be prevented from speaking.

Her position conflicts with the majority. Deport her and those who think
like her. Send a dozen Democrat sympathizers with each.

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by: Lil-man-ball - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 19:02 UTC

On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 18:32:32 -0000 (UTC)
John Simons <jsimons@centralpark.com> wrote:

> On 17 Apr 2024, Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> posted some
> news:JHSTN.11538$zWO8.7257@fx17.iad:
>
> > On 4/17/2024 4:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
> >> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
> >> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will
> >>> no longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing
> >>> "substantial risks relating to security" over social media
> >>> chatter surrounding the Israel- Hamas conflict.
> >>>
> >>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
> >>> student
> >>>from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and
> >>>would
> >>> give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release
> >>> Monday, the university said she would no longer speak at the
> >>> ceremony after the discussion about her selection took on "an
> >>> alarming tenor."
> >>>
> >>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained
> >>> to the university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an
> >>> Instagram bio that links to a pro-Palestine website.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
> >>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
> >>
> >> Nothing like silencing free speech.
> >
> > This is speech that you want to be suppressed. The valedictorian is
> > pro-Palestine, and you, with your knee-jerk pro-Israel stance, want
> > people with her views to be prevented from speaking.
>
> Her position conflicts with the majority. Deport her and those who
> think like her. Send a dozen Democrat sympathizers with each.

Can we do more please, I know we can!

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by: Just Wondering - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 22:58 UTC

On 4/17/2024 5:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial risks
>> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the Israel-
>> Hamas conflict.
>>
>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year student
>>from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and would
>> give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release Monday, the
>> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after the
>> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>
>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to the
>> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an Instagram bio
>> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>
>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>
> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>
If she avoids politics she should be allowed to speak.
But the valedictorian speech should not give her a platform
for a pro-Palestinian anti-Israel speech. She should be
allowed to say whatever she wants on the subject, but there
is a time and place for everything and her college graduation
ceremony is not the time and place for that sort of thing.

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by: Just Wondering - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 22:59 UTC

On 4/17/2024 10:23 AM, Max Boot wrote:
> On 4/17/2024 4:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial risks
>>> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the Israel-
>>> Hamas conflict.
>>>
>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
>>> student
>>> from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and
>>> would give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release
>>> Monday, the
>>> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after the
>>> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>
>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to the
>>> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an Instagram
>>> bio
>>> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>
>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>
>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>
> This is speech that you want to be suppressed. The valedictorian is
> pro-Palestine, and you, with your knee-jerk pro-Israel stance, want
> people with her views to be prevented from speaking.
>
Time and place. She can say whatever she wants, just not during
the graduation ceremony.

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by: Siri Cruise - Wed, 17 Apr 2024 23:56 UTC

John Simons wrote:
> On 17 Apr 2024, Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> posted some
> news:JHSTN.11538$zWO8.7257@fx17.iad:
>
>> On 4/17/2024 4:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial
>>>> risks relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding
>>>> the Israel- Hamas conflict.
>>>>
>>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
>>>> student
>>> >from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and
>>>> would
>>>> give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release Monday,
>>>> the university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after
>>>> the discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>>
>>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to
>>>> the university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an
>>>> Instagram bio that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>>
>>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>>
>> This is speech that you want to be suppressed. The valedictorian is
>> pro-Palestine, and you, with your knee-jerk pro-Israel stance, want
>> people with her views to be prevented from speaking.
>
> Her position conflicts with the majority. Deport her and those who think
> like her. Send a dozen Democrat sympathizers with each.
>

Nothing like silencing free speech.

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by: Josh Rosenbluth - Thu, 18 Apr 2024 01:17 UTC

On 4/17/2024 3:58 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 4/17/2024 5:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial risks
>>> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the Israel-
>>> Hamas conflict.
>>>
>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
>>> student
>>> from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and
>>> would give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release
>>> Monday, the
>>> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after the
>>> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>
>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to the
>>> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an Instagram
>>> bio
>>> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>
>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>
>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>>
> If she avoids politics she should be allowed to speak.
> But the valedictorian speech should not give her a platform
> for a pro-Palestinian anti-Israel speech. She should be
> allowed to say whatever she wants on the subject, but there
> is a time and place for everything and her college graduation
> ceremony is not the time and place for that sort of thing.

That's not how freedom of speech ought to work.

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by: Josh Rosenbluth - Thu, 18 Apr 2024 01:28 UTC

On 4/17/2024 3:59 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
> On 4/17/2024 10:23 AM, Max Boot wrote:
>> On 4/17/2024 4:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial risks
>>>> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the Israel-
>>>> Hamas conflict.
>>>>
>>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
>>>> student
>>>> from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and
>>>> would give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release
>>>> Monday, the
>>>> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after the
>>>> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>>
>>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to the
>>>> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an
>>>> Instagram bio
>>>> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>>
>>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>>
>> This is speech that you want to be suppressed. The valedictorian is
>> pro-Palestine, and you, with your knee-jerk pro-Israel stance, want
>> people with her views to be prevented from speaking.
>>
> Time and place. She can say whatever she wants, just not during
> the graduation ceremony.

Time, manner and place restrictions must be content neutral. You can
prohibit speaking at graduation, but not speaking only on a particular
subject.

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by: Lou Bricano - Thu, 18 Apr 2024 01:42 UTC

On 4/17/2024 6:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
> On 4/17/2024 3:58 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>> On 4/17/2024 5:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial risks
>>>> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the Israel-
>>>> Hamas conflict.
>>>>
>>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year student
>>>> from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and would
>>>> give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release Monday, the
>>>> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after the
>>>> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>>
>>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to the
>>>> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an Instagram bio
>>>> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>>
>>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>>>
>> If she avoids politics she should be allowed to speak.
>> But the valedictorian speech should not give her a platform
>> for a pro-Palestinian anti-Israel speech. She should be
>> allowed to say whatever she wants on the subject, but there
>> is a time and place for everything and her college graduation
>> ceremony is not the time and place for that sort of thing.
>
> That's not how freedom of speech ought to work.

I think canceling the woman's valedictory address is bad and wrong. However,
it's a private university and they don't have to play by the same rules as state
schools.

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by: Governor Swill - Thu, 18 Apr 2024 01:43 UTC

On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 18:32:32 -0000 (UTC), John Simons <jsimons@centralpark.com> wrote:

>On 17 Apr 2024, Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> posted
>> This is speech that you want to be suppressed. The valedictorian is
>> pro-Palestine, and you, with your knee-jerk pro-Israel stance, want
>> people with her views to be prevented from speaking.
>
>Her position conflicts with the majority.

How is that relevant? Free speech is free speech for everybody. If it wasn't, you
wouldn't be able to spew your hate speech here.

>Deport her and those who think
>like her. Send a dozen Democrat sympathizers with each.

See what I mean?

Swill
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by: Paul Jackson - Thu, 18 Apr 2024 01:48 UTC

On 4/17/2024 11:32 AM, John Simons wrote:
> On 17 Apr 2024, Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> posted some
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>
>> On 4/17/2024 4:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial
>>>> risks relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding
>>>> the Israel- Hamas conflict.
>>>>
>>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
>>>> student
>>> >from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and
>>>> would
>>>> give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release Monday,
>>>> the university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after
>>>> the discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>>
>>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to
>>>> the university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an
>>>> Instagram bio that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>>
>>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>>
>> This is speech that you want to be suppressed. The valedictorian is
>> pro-Palestine, and you, with your knee-jerk pro-Israel stance, want
>> people with her views to be prevented from speaking.
>
> Her position conflicts with the majority.

The only freedom of speech that matters is the freedom to say unpopular and
counter-majoritarian things.

> Deport her and those who think like her.

Nope. We'll deport you first.

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by: Siri Cruise - Thu, 18 Apr 2024 03:24 UTC

Just Wondering wrote:
> On 4/17/2024 10:23 AM, Max Boot wrote:
>> On 4/17/2024 4:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian
>>>> will no
>>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing
>>>> "substantial risks
>>>> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding
>>>> the Israel-
>>>> Hamas conflict.
>>>>
>>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a
>>>> fourth-year student
>>>> from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the
>>>> valedictorian and would give a speech alongside two
>>>> salutatorians. In a news release Monday, the
>>>> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony
>>>> after the
>>>> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>>
>>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others
>>>> complained to the
>>>> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an
>>>> Instagram bio
>>>> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>>>>
>>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>>
>>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>>
>> This is speech that you want to be suppressed. The valedictorian
>> is pro-Palestine, and you, with your knee-jerk pro-Israel
>> stance, want people with her views to be prevented from speaking.
>>
> Time and place. She can say whatever she wants, just not during
> the graduation ceremony.

It's important to remember free speech has its limits.

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by: Josh Rosenbluth - Thu, 18 Apr 2024 03:42 UTC

On 4/17/2024 6:42 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
> On 4/17/2024 6:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
>> On 4/17/2024 3:58 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 4/17/2024 5:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>>>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>>>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial
>>>>> risks
>>>>> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the
>>>>> Israel-
>>>>> Hamas conflict.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
>>>>> student
>>>>> from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and
>>>>> would give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release
>>>>> Monday, the
>>>>> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after the
>>>>> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>>>
>>>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to
>>>>> the
>>>>> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an
>>>>> Instagram bio
>>>>> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>>>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>>>
>>>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>>>>
>>> If she avoids politics she should be allowed to speak.
>>> But the valedictorian speech should not give her a platform
>>> for a pro-Palestinian anti-Israel speech. She should be
>>> allowed to say whatever she wants on the subject, but there
>>> is a time and place for everything and her college graduation
>>> ceremony is not the time and place for that sort of thing.
>>
>> That's not how freedom of speech ought to work.
>
> I think canceling the woman's valedictory address is bad and wrong.
> However, it's a private university and they don't have to play by the
> same rules as state schools.

True. But, California has a law which extends freedom of speech to
private universities to the point where a student cannot be disciplined
for exercising their freedom of speech. It's doubtful that denying a
student a valedictorian address is "disciplinary sanction" as stated in
the statute, but you never know.

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by: Stephen Boudreaux, M - Thu, 18 Apr 2024 05:31 UTC

On 4/17/2024 6:43 PM, Governor Swill wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 18:32:32 -0000 (UTC), John Simons <jsimons@centralpark.com> wrote:
>
>> On 17 Apr 2024, Max Boot <max.boot@lathymes.com> posted
>>> This is speech that you want to be suppressed. The valedictorian is
>>> pro-Palestine, and you, with your knee-jerk pro-Israel stance, want
>>> people with her views to be prevented from speaking.
>>
>> Her position conflicts with the majority.
>
> How is that relevant? Free speech is free speech for everybody. If it wasn't, you
> wouldn't be able to spew your hate speech here.

The only real value of a commitment to free speech is to protect and defend
speech that is unpopular and counter-majoritarian. Speech with which large
majorities agree doesn't need protection.

>
>> Deport her and those who think
>> like her. Send a dozen Democrat sympathizers with each.
>
> See what I mean?

Exactly.

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by: Karen Bass USC degre - Thu, 18 Apr 2024 07:51 UTC

>
> On 4/17/2024 6:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
>> On 4/17/2024 3:58 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>> On 4/17/2024 5:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>>>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will
no
>>>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial
risks
>>>>> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the
Israel-
>>>>> Hamas conflict.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
student
>>>>> from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian
and would
>>>>> give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release
Monday, the
>>>>> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after
the
>>>>> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>>>
>>>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained
to the
>>>>> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an
Instagram bio
>>>>> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-
cancels-
>>>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>>>
>>>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>>>>
>>> If she avoids politics she should be allowed to speak.
>>> But the valedictorian speech should not give her a platform
>>> for a pro-Palestinian anti-Israel speech.Â She should be
>>> allowed to say whatever she wants on the subject, but there
>>> is a time and place for everything and her college graduation
>>> ceremony is not the time and place for that sort of thing.
>>
>> That's not how freedom of speech ought to work.
>
> I think canceling the woman's valedictory address is bad and wrong.
However,
> it's a private university and they don't have to play by the same
rules as state
> schools.

Left-wing liberal arts colleges do it all the time. What's the problem
with USC following suit?

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On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 16:58:34 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

>On 4/17/2024 5:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial risks
>>> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the Israel-
>>> Hamas conflict.
>>>
>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year student
>>>from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and would
>>> give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release Monday, the
>>> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after the
>>> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>
>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to the
>>> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an Instagram bio
>>> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>
>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>
>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>>
>If she avoids politics she should be allowed to speak.
>But the valedictorian speech should not give her a platform
>for a pro-Palestinian anti-Israel speech. She should be
>allowed to say whatever she wants on the subject, but there
>is a time and place for everything and her college graduation
>ceremony is not the time and place for that sort of thing.

I agree. She should have the same right to free speech as anybody but a college
graduation speech may not be the most appropriate place to campaign for one's candidates.

Swill
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by: Governor Swill - Thu, 18 Apr 2024 08:00 UTC

On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 16:59:57 -0600, Just Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

>On 4/17/2024 10:23 AM, Max Boot wrote:
>> On 4/17/2024 4:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will no
>>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial risks
>>>> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the Israel-
>>>> Hamas conflict.
>>>>
>>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
>>>> student
>>>> from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian and
>>>> would give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news release
>>>> Monday, the
>>>> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after the
>>>> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>>
>>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained to the
>>>> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an Instagram
>>>> bio
>>>> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-cancels-
>>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>>
>>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>>
>> This is speech that you want to be suppressed. The valedictorian is
>> pro-Palestine, and you, with your knee-jerk pro-Israel stance, want
>> people with her views to be prevented from speaking.
>>
>Time and place. She can say whatever she wants, just not during
>the graduation ceremony.

Technically, yeah, she can. Doesn't mean it's appropriate, but yeah, she can say whatever
she wants.

Swill
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by: Karen Bass USC degre - Thu, 18 Apr 2024 08:21 UTC

In <uvq4ru$22d6g$1@dont-email.me> Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
>
> On 4/17/2024 6:42 PM, Lou Bricano wrote:
>> On 4/17/2024 6:17 PM, Josh Rosenbluth wrote:
>>> On 4/17/2024 3:58 PM, Just Wondering wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/2024 5:20 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2024 06:23:36 -0000 (UTC), useapen
>>>>> <yourdime@outlook.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The University of Southern California said its valedictorian will
no
>>>>>> longer deliver a graduation speech this year, citing "substantial
>>>>>> risks
>>>>>> relating to security" over social media chatter surrounding the
>>>>>> Israel-
>>>>>> Hamas conflict.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Los Angeles school revealed that Asna Tabassum, a fourth-year
>>>>>> student
>>>>>> from Chino Hills, California, was selected as the valedictorian
and
>>>>>> would give a speech alongside two salutatorians. In a news
release
>>>>>> Monday, the
>>>>>> university said she would no longer speak at the ceremony after
the
>>>>>> discussion about her selection took on "an alarming tenor."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The move comes after some students, alumni and others complained
to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> university about Tabassum's social media, which includes an
>>>>>> Instagram bio
>>>>>> that links to a pro-Palestine website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2024/04/15/usc-
cancels-
>>>>>> valedictorian-graduation-speech-israel-hamas/73336731007/
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing like silencing free speech.
>>>>>
>>>> If she avoids politics she should be allowed to speak.
>>>> But the valedictorian speech should not give her a platform
>>>> for a pro-Palestinian anti-Israel speech.Â She should be
>>>> allowed to say whatever she wants on the subject, but there
>>>> is a time and place for everything and her college graduation
>>>> ceremony is not the time and place for that sort of thing.
>>>
>>> That's not how freedom of speech ought to work.
>>
>> I think canceling the woman's valedictory address is bad and wrong.
>> However, it's a private university and they don't have to play by the
>> same rules as state schools.
>
> True. But, California has a law which extends freedom of speech to
> private universities to the point where a student cannot be
disciplined
> for exercising their freedom of speech. It's doubtful that denying a
> student a valedictorian address is "disciplinary sanction" as stated
in
> the statute, but you never know.

They did it exactly right, labeling it a security issue. Trumps all
left-wing activism "free speech" bs.

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