We had a nice three day weekend for Christmas at Fort Stevens State
Park. This is a huge park and, at one time, it was the site of a large
Army base protecting the mouth of the Columbia river. This is also where
you go if you want to see Oregon's most visible old ship wreck. There
have been a lot of ship wrecks here, but most of them haven't left much
to see. The wreck of the Peter Iredale is famous here. Postcards with
the sun setting behind the wreck are iconic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Iredale

More of N. Oregon Coast's Wreck of Peter Iredale Showing Than Ever
Before: Astoria / Warrenton Surprise

https://www.beachconnection.net/news/more_wreck_peter_iredale_showing_ev
er_before.php

The big story here isn't the ship wreck. It's the sand.

"Columbia River jetties changed the face of the Pacific Northwest

March 24, 2010
CORVALLIS, Ore. - The construction of jetties at the entrance to the
Columbia River has dramatically changed the Pacific Ocean shoreline for
long distances north and south of them, a new study concludes, in ways
so profound that the land has yet to reach a stable equilibrium a
century after they were built.

Contrary to older theories, these jetties have overwhelmed any changes
caused by the construction of multiple dams on the Columbia River and
their influence on sediment transport, researchers say. And even though
much new land was created by jetty construction, some of it is already
eroding and it's unclear exactly what the future may bring, before more
stability is achieved.

Further complicating the picture is sea-level rise, increasing wave
heights and the long-term potential for subsidence of land due to a
subduction zone earthquake in this region.

Creation of the jetties in the late 1800s approximately doubled the rate
of shoreline buildup compared to the period prior to their construction,
the study concluded."

That whole area, and much further south were impacted by the
jetties. Historically Seaside had a small rocky beach. It now has a big
sandy beach with a lot ot tasty razor clams living in it. Just a bit
north or there, it had a huge impact on Gearhart. Nice places that had
been close to the ocean found themselves in the middle of a new sand
dunes.

The picture in the Beach Connection article tells you a lot of the
story. The part of the wreck that is a dull green is the part of the
wreck that is usually covered by sand. Historically everything in the
background did not exist. The sand mound in the background has been
mostly stabilized with imported European beach grass, except in the
parking lots on top of that. Our park service is obviously using heavy
equipment to remove sand from the parking lots. The last time we were
there a big portion of the parking area had been taken over by the sand.
At this point a lot of the sand that accumulated around the wreck has
obviously moved inland.

Getting a better picture of the size and shape of the Peter Iredale
was interesting, but I thought the changes in the beach were more
interesting. The crew were easily able to get off the wreck, but they
had to wait for low tide so they could walk to dry land, which was
probably a bit further away back then. In recent years you could easily
walk to the wreck, except during high tide. Now you can only walk to the
wreck during a low tide.

The picture in this article was taken last year. At that point there
was already more of the wreck exposed than I was used to seeing.

Fort Steven's Famous Shipwreck Is Just 300 Yards From The Parking Lot

The next two articles are fun stories about the wreck.

https://www.thetravel.com/what-to-know-about-peter-iredale-shipwreck-in-
fort-stevens-state-park/

5 Quirky Facts About Wreck of Peter Iredale on N. Oregon Coast

https://www.beachconnection.net/news/5
_quirky_facts_wreck_peter_iredale110123.php

"Schemers sought to steal Peter Iredale shipwreck"
https://offbeatoregon.com/1208d-schemer-sought-to-sell-peter-iredale-
shipwreck-for-scrap.html

I think that guy was hoping to get some money for his paper.
Stranger things have happened.

"UPI ARCHIVES AUG. 12, 1989
National recreation area could be legally mined

REEDSPORT, Ore. -- A Bellevue, Wash., company may have the legal right
to mine sand in the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area.

U.S. Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management officials said Coosand
Corp. has a sand mining claim on 780 acres of dunes north of Reedsport
on the central Oregon coast.

Although the tract is located in a 32,000-acre national recreation area,
the company could mine the sand, possibly for export to glass
manufacturers in Japan.

Coosand has held the claim since 1959 and is entitled to purchase the
publicly owned land under the Mining Act of 1872. That law says
ownership can be obtained for only $2.50 an acre, with proof that a
valuable deposit has been found.

Coosand attorneys said the company would be willing to negotiate a land
exchange."

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/08/12/National-recreation-area-could-
be-legally-mined/3989618897600/

We drove home through Astoria and stopped at the Columbia River
Maritime Museum. If you are interested in this subject plan to spend at
least a couple of hours there. The museum itself is huge and they have
the last Columbia river lightship on display. It returned to the museum
6 months ago after extensive renovation in Portland. We were able to
visit the engine room. During the summer on weekends you would probably
need reservations. We saw people being turned away because there wasn't
room for them.

https://www.crmm.org/

We went further east, up the Columbia river and turned south to go
through Mist and Vernona, because we had never been there. This is an
area with a lot of trees and enough scattered small farms that they have
two small Grange halls in that area. The highway through there is nicely
paved, but it's narrow and has a LOT of curves. I'll bet motorcyclists
love highway 47, but it's likely to be interesting when log trucks are
running through there. The day after Christmas traffic was light and it
was mostly big pickups.

The weather was excellent. We had some stormy weather, but it
cleared up enough Christmas eve that we were able to enjoy a campfire.
We are able to use our heavy weather gear at times and had nice weather
at low tide, when we could walk out to the wreck.

Except for the Loons, I hope everyone has a happy new year. And I
have to mention how much I enjoyed #45's Christmas messages, after we
returned to our home.

TB

Technobarbarian wrote:

I see you're back on google groups. damthing can't even wrap a URL
properly.

> We had a nice three day weekend for Christmas at Fort Stevens State
> Park. This is a huge park and, at one time, it was the site of a large
> Army base protecting the mouth of the Columbia river. This is also where
> you go if you want to see Oregon's most visible old ship wreck. There
> have been a lot of ship wrecks here, but most of them haven't left much
> to see. The wreck of the Peter Iredale is famous here. Postcards with
> the sun setting behind the wreck are iconic.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Iredale
>
> More of N. Oregon Coast's Wreck of Peter Iredale Showing Than Ever
> Before: Astoria / Warrenton Surprise
>
> https://www.beachconnection.net/news/more_wreck_peter_iredale_showing_ev
> er_before.php
>
> The big story here isn't the ship wreck. It's the sand.
>
> "Columbia River jetties changed the face of the Pacific Northwest
>
> March 24, 2010
> CORVALLIS, Ore. - The construction of jetties at the entrance to the
> Columbia River has dramatically changed the Pacific Ocean shoreline for
> long distances north and south of them, a new study concludes, in ways
> so profound that the land has yet to reach a stable equilibrium a
> century after they were built.
>
> Contrary to older theories, these jetties have overwhelmed any changes
> caused by the construction of multiple dams on the Columbia River and
> their influence on sediment transport, researchers say. And even though
> much new land was created by jetty construction, some of it is already
> eroding and it's unclear exactly what the future may bring, before more
> stability is achieved.
>
> Further complicating the picture is sea-level rise, increasing wave
> heights and the long-term potential for subsidence of land due to a
> subduction zone earthquake in this region.
>
> Creation of the jetties in the late 1800s approximately doubled the rate
> of shoreline buildup compared to the period prior to their construction,
> the study concluded."
>
> That whole area, and much further south were impacted by the
> jetties. Historically Seaside had a small rocky beach. It now has a big
> sandy beach with a lot ot tasty razor clams living in it. Just a bit
> north or there, it had a huge impact on Gearhart. Nice places that had
> been close to the ocean found themselves in the middle of a new sand
> dunes.
>
> The picture in the Beach Connection article tells you a lot of the
> story. The part of the wreck that is a dull green is the part of the
> wreck that is usually covered by sand. Historically everything in the
> background did not exist. The sand mound in the background has been
> mostly stabilized with imported European beach grass, except in the
> parking lots on top of that. Our park service is obviously using heavy
> equipment to remove sand from the parking lots. The last time we were
> there a big portion of the parking area had been taken over by the sand.
> At this point a lot of the sand that accumulated around the wreck has
> obviously moved inland.
>
> Getting a better picture of the size and shape of the Peter Iredale
> was interesting, but I thought the changes in the beach were more
> interesting. The crew were easily able to get off the wreck, but they
> had to wait for low tide so they could walk to dry land, which was
> probably a bit further away back then. In recent years you could easily
> walk to the wreck, except during high tide. Now you can only walk to the
> wreck during a low tide.
>
> The picture in this article was taken last year. At that point there
> was already more of the wreck exposed than I was used to seeing.
>
> Fort Steven's Famous Shipwreck Is Just 300 Yards From The Parking Lot
>
> The next two articles are fun stories about the wreck.
>
> https://www.thetravel.com/what-to-know-about-peter-iredale-shipwreck-in-
> fort-stevens-state-park/
>
> 5 Quirky Facts About Wreck of Peter Iredale on N. Oregon Coast
>
> https://www.beachconnection.net/news/5
> _quirky_facts_wreck_peter_iredale110123.php
>
>
> "Schemers sought to steal Peter Iredale shipwreck"
> https://offbeatoregon.com/1208d-schemer-sought-to-sell-peter-iredale-
> shipwreck-for-scrap.html
>
> I think that guy was hoping to get some money for his paper.
> Stranger things have happened.
>
> "UPI ARCHIVES AUG. 12, 1989
> National recreation area could be legally mined
>
> REEDSPORT, Ore. -- A Bellevue, Wash., company may have the legal right
> to mine sand in the Oregon Dunes National Recreation Area.
>
> U.S. Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management officials said Coosand
> Corp. has a sand mining claim on 780 acres of dunes north of Reedsport
> on the central Oregon coast.
>
> Although the tract is located in a 32,000-acre national recreation area,
> the company could mine the sand, possibly for export to glass
> manufacturers in Japan.
>
> Coosand has held the claim since 1959 and is entitled to purchase the
> publicly owned land under the Mining Act of 1872. That law says
> ownership can be obtained for only $2.50 an acre, with proof that a
> valuable deposit has been found.
>
> Coosand attorneys said the company would be willing to negotiate a land
> exchange."
>
> https://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/08/12/National-recreation-area-could-
> be-legally-mined/3989618897600/
>
> We drove home through Astoria and stopped at the Columbia River
> Maritime Museum. If you are interested in this subject plan to spend at
> least a couple of hours there. The museum itself is huge and they have
> the last Columbia river lightship on display. It returned to the museum
> 6 months ago after extensive renovation in Portland. We were able to
> visit the engine room. During the summer on weekends you would probably
> need reservations. We saw people being turned away because there wasn't
> room for them.
>
> https://www.crmm.org/
>
> We went further east, up the Columbia river and turned south to go
> through Mist and Vernona, because we had never been there. This is an
> area with a lot of trees and enough scattered small farms that they have
> two small Grange halls in that area. The highway through there is nicely
> paved, but it's narrow and has a LOT of curves. I'll bet motorcyclists
> love highway 47, but it's likely to be interesting when log trucks are
> running through there. The day after Christmas traffic was light and it
> was mostly big pickups.
>
> The weather was excellent. We had some stormy weather, but it
> cleared up enough Christmas eve that we were able to enjoy a campfire.
> We are able to use our heavy weather gear at times and had nice weather
> at low tide, when we could walk out to the wreck.
>
> Except for the Loons, I hope everyone has a happy new year. And I
> have to mention how much I enjoyed #45's Christmas messages, after we
> returned to our home.
>
> TB
>

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

In article <db5jN.65986$vFZa.34903@fx13.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
> I see you're back on google groups. damthing can't even wrap a URL
> properly.
>
>

That wasn't posted through Google groups and I had been relying on
your report that everything was formatting properly. I think I can fix
the URL wrap easily. I'm still getting used to being back on a regular
source for my feed and I haven't gotten all the fine points figured out
yet. Oh well.

TB

Technobarbarian wrote:
> In article <db5jN.65986$vFZa.34903@fx13.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
>> I see you're back on google groups. damthing can't even wrap a URL
>> properly.
>>
>>
>
> That wasn't posted through Google groups

My bad. I inhaled the header too hastily. I also should have noticed
that everything but URLs quoted OK. Along with other things that
happened today, I think I'll just redact this day.

> and I had been relying on
> your report that everything was formatting properly. I think I can fix
> the URL wrap easily. I'm still getting used to being back on a regular
> source for my feed and I haven't gotten all the fine points figured out
> yet. Oh well.
>
> TB
>

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.