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 by: Technobarbarian - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 03:24 UTC

"Dr. John Gartner on a tale of two brains: "Biden's brain is aging.
Trump's brain is dementing"
"This is a fundamental breakdown in the ability to use language," the
renowned mental health expert says of Trump"

"I had to speak out now because the 2024 election might turn on this
issue of who is cognitively capable: Biden or Trump? It's a major issue
that will affect some people's votes. Not enough people are sounding the
alarm, that based on his behavior, and in my opinion, Donald Trump is
dangerously demented. In fact, we are seeing the opposite among too many
in the news media, the political leaders and among the public. There is
also this focus on Biden's gaffes or other things that are well within
the normal limits of aging. By comparison, Trump appears to be showing
gross signs of dementia. This is a tale of two brains. Biden's brain is
aging. Trump's brain is dementing.

What evidence do you have for that conclusion?

"Phonemic paraphasias" ?the substitution of non-words for words that
sound similar?are not normally seen until a patient enters the moderate
to severe stages of Alzheimer?s."

Some examples of Trump?s non-words: Beneficiaries becomes ?benefishes.?
Renovations become ?renoversh.? Pivotal became ?pivobal." Obama became
?obamna.? Missiles became ?mishiz.? Christmas became ?Crissus.?
Bipartisan became ?bipars.?

This is a fundamental breakdown in the ability to use language. If you
were talking to your father on the phone and he did this you would think
he is having a stroke. There is no healthy older person who speaks that
way.

Trump also engages in what we call "tangential speech." He just becomes
incomprehensible when he engages in free association word salad speech
that is all over the place. Again, that's a sign of real brain damage,
not being old, not being slow, not losing a step not being, but of
severe cognitive deterioration. What I don?t understand is why those
clips aren?t replayed over and over in the mainstream media. Isn?t Trump
babbling incoherently the most newsworthy part of his rally? You can be
sure it would be if it were Biden."
[snip]

https://www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-john-gartner-on-a-tale-of-two-
brains-bidens-brain-is-aging-brain-is-dementing/

TB

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 by: kmiller - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 14:31 UTC

On 2/24/2024 7:24 PM, Technobarbarian wrote:
>
>
> "Dr. John Gartner on a tale of two brains: "Biden's brain is aging.
> Trump's brain is dementing"
> "This is a fundamental breakdown in the ability to use language," the
> renowned mental health expert says of Trump"
>
> "I had to speak out now because the 2024 election might turn on this
> issue of who is cognitively capable: Biden or Trump? It's a major issue
> that will affect some people's votes. Not enough people are sounding the
> alarm, that based on his behavior, and in my opinion, Donald Trump is
> dangerously demented. In fact, we are seeing the opposite among too many
> in the news media, the political leaders and among the public. There is
> also this focus on Biden's gaffes or other things that are well within
> the normal limits of aging. By comparison, Trump appears to be showing
> gross signs of dementia. This is a tale of two brains. Biden's brain is
> aging. Trump's brain is dementing.
>
> What evidence do you have for that conclusion?
>
> "Phonemic paraphasias" ?the substitution of non-words for words that
> sound similar?are not normally seen until a patient enters the moderate
> to severe stages of Alzheimer?s."
>
> Some examples of Trump?s non-words: Beneficiaries becomes ?benefishes.?
> Renovations become ?renoversh.? Pivotal became ?pivobal." Obama became
> ?obamna.? Missiles became ?mishiz.? Christmas became ?Crissus.?
> Bipartisan became ?bipars.?
>
> This is a fundamental breakdown in the ability to use language. If you
> were talking to your father on the phone and he did this you would think
> he is having a stroke. There is no healthy older person who speaks that
> way.
>
> Trump also engages in what we call "tangential speech." He just becomes
> incomprehensible when he engages in free association word salad speech
> that is all over the place. Again, that's a sign of real brain damage,
> not being old, not being slow, not losing a step not being, but of
> severe cognitive deterioration. What I don?t understand is why those
> clips aren?t replayed over and over in the mainstream media. Isn?t Trump
> babbling incoherently the most newsworthy part of his rally? You can be
> sure it would be if it were Biden."
> [snip]
>
> https://www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-john-gartner-on-a-tale-of-two-
> brains-bidens-brain-is-aging-brain-is-dementing/
>
> TB

The goonites are well aware of all those issues with the fat orange
goon. That's what makes him so attractive to them. They don't need to
understand what he's saying, they can just love his orange hair.

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 by: Technobarbarian - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 16:31 UTC

In article <9h6dnTCuofPK0kb4nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com>, i09172
@removethisspamblockerstuff-yahoo.com says...
> >
> > https://www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-john-gartner-on-a-tale-of-two-
> > brains-bidens-brain-is-aging-brain-is-dementing/
> >
> > TB
>
> The goonites are well aware of all those issues with the fat orange
> goon. That's what makes him so attractive to them. They don't need to
> understand what he's saying, they can just love his orange hair.
>

From orange jesus on down, they all seem to love the sound of his
voice. But, I don't think anyone is really there to listen to #45 drone
on. It's a social event. They're there for all the usual reasons people
go to any sort of rally. They're collecting: stories, pictures and
souvenirs they can share with their friends and random strangers. Some
of the single people probably hookup. For most of the folks, most of the
time, the speech is just background noise.

This is just a recent example:

"Trump Rambles His Way Through Incoherent Nashville Speech"

"Former President Donald Trump delivered a whopper of a speech Thursday
at the National Religious Broadcasters convention in Nashville, where
the GOP frontrunner rambled his way through a series of bizarre non-
sequiturs.

In what might have been his most out-of-touch tangent of the night,
Trump claimed that ?everybody on both sides? agreed with the U.S.
Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v. Wade.

Having appointed three Supreme Court justices as president, Trump took
credit for making the deeply unpopular ruling possible."

"Trump uttered some remarkable word salad, at one point telling the
crowd:

?They want you to say what they want you, what they want to have you
say. And we?re not gonna let that happen. You?re going to say as you
want and you?re going to believe, and you?re going to believe in God.
You?re gonna believe in God because God is here and God is watching.?

Trump also pledged to ?do [his] part to keep A.M. radio in our cars,?
gave himself kudos for making ?Israel? the capital of Israel, and
bragged about having ?forced? prayer into some schools while promising
to shut down the Department of Education if he?s re-elected except for
?one desk, one person, just to make sure everyone?s speaking English.?

He then butchered the word ?evangelical?:"
[snip]

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/trump-rambles-way-incoherent-nashville-
190751706.html

"Covfefe"

TB

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 by: bfh - Sun, 25 Feb 2024 18:45 UTC

Technobarbarian wrote:
>
>
> "Dr. John Gartner on a tale of two brains: "Biden's brain is aging.
> Trump's brain is dementing"
> "This is a fundamental breakdown in the ability to use language," the
> renowned mental health expert says of Trump"
>
> "I had to speak out now because the 2024 election might turn on this
> issue of who is cognitively capable: Biden or Trump? It's a major issue
> that will affect some people's votes. Not enough people are sounding the
> alarm, that based on his behavior, and in my opinion, Donald Trump is
> dangerously demented. In fact, we are seeing the opposite among too many
> in the news media, the political leaders and among the public. There is
> also this focus on Biden's gaffes or other things that are well within
> the normal limits of aging. By comparison, Trump appears to be showing
> gross signs of dementia. This is a tale of two brains. Biden's brain is
> aging. Trump's brain is dementing.
>
> What evidence do you have for that conclusion?
>
> "Phonemic paraphasias" ?the substitution of non-words for words that
> sound similar?are not normally seen until a patient enters the moderate
> to severe stages of Alzheimer?s."
>
> Some examples of Trump?s non-words: Beneficiaries becomes ?benefishes.?
> Renovations become ?renoversh.? Pivotal became ?pivobal." Obama became
> ?obamna.? Missiles became ?mishiz.? Christmas became ?Crissus.?
> Bipartisan became ?bipars.?
>
> This is a fundamental breakdown in the ability to use language. If you
> were talking to your father on the phone and he did this you would think
> he is having a stroke. There is no healthy older person who speaks that
> way.
>
> Trump also engages in what we call "tangential speech." He just becomes
> incomprehensible when he engages in free association word salad speech
> that is all over the place. Again, that's a sign of real brain damage,
> not being old, not being slow, not losing a step not being, but of
> severe cognitive deterioration. What I don?t understand is why those
> clips aren?t replayed over and over in the mainstream media. Isn?t Trump
> babbling incoherently the most newsworthy part of his rally? You can be
> sure it would be if it were Biden."
> [snip]
>
> https://www.salon.com/2024/02/23/dr-john-gartner-on-a-tale-of-two-
> brains-bidens-brain-is-aging-brain-is-dementing/

Trump is dementing, but Biden just has gaffes.
HawHawHaw!

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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 by: Technobarbarian - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 02:32 UTC

In article <4VLCN.460725$xHn7.22922@fx14.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
>
> Trump is dementing, but Biden just has gaffes.
> HawHawHaw!
>

"Press: In keeping score of mental gaffes, Donald Trump is ahead"

"As widely reported, Biden?s made several gaffes in the last couple of
weeks. He confused the late German Chancellor Helmut Kohl with former
German Chancellor Angela Merkel, confused the late French President
Francois Mitterrand with current French President Emmanuel Macron and
misidentified Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi as the president of Mexico, not
Egypt.

These, while worrisome, are dwarfed by Trump?s recent gaffes. I?m not
talking about the big lies he often makes: that he actually won the 2020
election; that he presided over the strongest economy in history; that
he was once named Michigan Man of the Year; that windmills cause cancer,
and so many more. Nor the dangerous policy pronouncements he?s made,
like encouraging Russia to invade any country that doesn?t pay its full
share of NATO dues.

No, we?re talking about gaffes, the same kind of mental hiccups Joe
Biden?s under fire for. Multiple times, in a January rant, Trump
confused Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi. He praised Hungary?s Prime
Minister Viktor Orban as ?the leader of Turkey.? He bragged about
beating Barack Obama in 2016 in ?an election that everyone said couldn?t
be won? and bragged about leading Obama ?by a lot? in 2024. He claimed
that Joe Biden would get us ?into World War II.? And he blamed Jeb Bush,
not his brother George W., for starting the War in Iraq.

This election should be about important policy differences and the
future of democracy. But if it?s really going to be decided, instead, by
gaffes ? and which candidate makes fewer of them ? Joe Biden will win in
a landslide."

https://thehill.com/opinion/4464448-press-in-keeping-score-of-mental-
gaffes-donald-trump-is-ahead/

TB

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 by: bfh - Wed, 28 Feb 2024 03:04 UTC

Technobarbarian wrote:
> In article <4VLCN.460725$xHn7.22922@fx14.iad>, redydog@rye.net says...
>>
>> Trump is dementing, but Biden just has gaffes.
>> HawHawHaw!
>>
>
> "Press: In keeping score of mental gaffes, Donald Trump is ahead"
>
> "As widely reported, Biden?s made several gaffes in the last couple of
> weeks. He confused the late German Chancellor Helmut Kohl with former
> German Chancellor Angela Merkel, confused the late French President
> Francois Mitterrand with current French President Emmanuel Macron and
> misidentified Abdel Fattah Al-Sisi as the president of Mexico, not
> Egypt.
>
> These, while worrisome, are dwarfed by Trump?s recent gaffes. I?m not
> talking about the big lies he often makes: that he actually won the 2020
> election; that he presided over the strongest economy in history; that
> he was once named Michigan Man of the Year; that windmills cause cancer,
> and so many more. Nor the dangerous policy pronouncements he?s made,
> like encouraging Russia to invade any country that doesn?t pay its full
> share of NATO dues.
>
> No, we?re talking about gaffes, the same kind of mental hiccups Joe
> Biden?s under fire for. Multiple times, in a January rant, Trump
> confused Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi. He praised Hungary?s Prime
> Minister Viktor Orban as ?the leader of Turkey.? He bragged about
> beating Barack Obama in 2016 in ?an election that everyone said couldn?t
> be won? and bragged about leading Obama ?by a lot? in 2024. He claimed
> that Joe Biden would get us ?into World War II.? And he blamed Jeb Bush,
> not his brother George W., for starting the War in Iraq.
>
> This election should be about important policy differences and the
> future of democracy.

I agree with that. And if it is, Trump will win.

> But if it?s really going to be decided, instead, by
> gaffes ? and which candidate makes fewer of them ? Joe Biden will win in
> a landslide."

How many gaffes equal 1 dementia?

> https://thehill.com/opinion/4464448-press-in-keeping-score-of-mental-
> gaffes-donald-trump-is-ahead/
>
> TB
>

--
bill
Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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