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by: HenHanna - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 10:10 UTC

The phrase "Eat to live, Not live to eat"
is an example of antimetabole.

Here's why: -- Antimetabole involves the repetition
of the same words in a reversed order.

Antimetabole:

-- Those who can, do. Those who can't, criticize. (George Bernard Shaw)

-- Silence is golden, speech is silver. (Proverb)

-- We live to learn, and learn to live. (Latin Proverb)

-- "Fair is foul, and foul is fair" (Shakespeare's Macbeth)

Chiasmus:
-- By day the frolic, and the dance by night. (Samuel Johnson)

-- The wicked flee though no one pursues, but the righteous are as bold
as a lion. (Proverbs 28:1)

-- Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness
thrust upon them. (Shakespeare's Twelfth Night)

-- "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for
your country" (JFK's Inaugural Address)

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by: Ammammata - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 10:46 UTC

HenHanna formulated on Friday :
> Here's why: -- Antimetabole involves the repetition
> of the same words in a reversed order

I read this somewhere, maybe related to someone brain:

On the left there's nothing right, on the right there's nothing left.

--
/-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ T /-\
-=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- - -=-
............ [ al lavoro ] ...........

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by: Peter Moylan - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 11:43 UTC

On 05/04/24 21:46, Ammammata wrote:
> HenHanna formulated on Friday :
>> Here's why: -- Antimetabole involves the repetition
>> of the same words in a reversed order
>
> I read this somewhere, maybe related to someone brain:
>
> On the left there's nothing right, on the right there's nothing left.

Or perhaps it's a statement about politics.

--
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW

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by: Sn!pe - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 12:36 UTC

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Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> wrote:

> HenHanna formulated on Friday :
> > Here's why: -- Antimetabole involves the repetition
> > of the same words in a reversed order
> >
>
> I read this somewhere, maybe related to someone brain:
>
> On the left there's nothing right, on the right there's nothing left.
>

In the case of motoring here in the UK:
The right side is the wrong side; the left side is the right side.

Furthermore:
Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

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by: candycanearter07 - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 12:50 UTC

Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote at 12:36 this Friday (GMT):
> [Followup-To: declined]
>
> Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> wrote:
>
>> HenHanna formulated on Friday :
>> > Here's why: -- Antimetabole involves the repetition
>> > of the same words in a reversed order
>> >
>>
>> I read this somewhere, maybe related to someone brain:
>>
>> On the left there's nothing right, on the right there's nothing left.
>>
>
> In the case of motoring here in the UK:
> The right side is the wrong side; the left side is the right side.
>
> Furthermore:
> Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.

So an odd number of wrongs is correct?
What about 0 wrongs, then?
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

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by: Sn!pe - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 13:00 UTC

candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:

> Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote at 12:36 this Friday (GMT):
> > [Followup-To: declined]
> >
> > Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> wrote:
> >
> >> HenHanna formulated on Friday :
> >> > Here's why: -- Antimetabole involves the repetition
> >> > of the same words in a reversed order
> >> >
> >>
> >> I read this somewhere, maybe related to someone brain:
> >>
> >> On the left there's nothing right, on the right there's nothing left.
> >>
> >
> > In the case of motoring here in the UK:
> > The right side is the wrong side; the left side is the right side.
> >
> > Furthermore:
> > Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
> >
>
> So an odd number of wrongs is correct?
> What about 0 wrongs, then?
>

There's nothing wrong with that.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator

My pet rock Gordon just is.

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by: LionelEdwards - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 13:52 UTC

HenHanna wrote:

> The phrase "Eat to live, Not live to eat"
> is an example of antimetabole.

> Here's why: -- Antimetabole involves the repetition
> of the same words in a reversed order.

> Antimetabole:

> -- Those who can, do. Those who can't, criticize. (George Bernard Shaw)

"Those who can't, teach."

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by: jerryfriedman - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 15:15 UTC

LionelEdwards wrote:

> HenHanna wrote:

>> The phrase "Eat to live, Not live to eat"
>> is an example of antimetabole.

>> Here's why: -- Antimetabole involves the repetition
>> of the same words in a reversed order.

>> Antimetabole:

>> -- Those who can, do. Those who can't, criticize. (George Bernard Shaw)

> "Those who can't, teach."

"He who cannot, teaches."

https://books.google.com/books?id=bflyEAAAQBAJ&pg=PT227

--
Jerry Friedman

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by: Ross Clark - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 20:20 UTC

On 5/04/2024 11:46 p.m., Ammammata wrote:
> HenHanna formulated on Friday :
>> Here's why: -- Antimetabole involves the repetition
>> of the same words in a reversed order
>
> I read this somewhere, maybe related to someone brain:
>
> On the left there's nothing right, on the right there's nothing left.

....or a political situation?

I guess it's like the old Soviet joke:

There's no news in "Truth", and no truth in "News".

*There were two major national newspapers in the USSR:
- "Pravda" [truth], published by the Central Committee of the
Communist Party, largely devoted to party policy
- "Izvestia" [news], published by the Supreme Soviet (government),
mainly foreign news

----------

Or is it like:

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

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by: HenHanna - Fri, 5 Apr 2024 20:31 UTC

(posting only in rec.puzzles)

Ross Clark wrote:

> On 5/04/2024 11:46 p.m., Ammammata wrote:
>> HenHanna formulated on Friday :
>>> Here's why: -- Antimetabole involves the repetition
>>> of the same words in a reversed order
>>
>> I read this somewhere, maybe related to someone brain:
>>
>> On the left there's nothing right, on the right there's nothing left.

> ....or a political situation?

> I guess it's like the old Soviet joke:

> There's no news in "Truth", and no truth in "News".

> *There were two major national newspapers in the USSR:
> - "Pravda" [truth], published by the Central Committee of the
> Communist Party, largely devoted to party policy
> - "Izvestia" [news], published by the Supreme Soviet (government),
> mainly foreign news

> There's no news in "Truth", and no truth in "News".

the 2nd part is what Trump has been saying for several years.

> ----------

> Or is it like:

> I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy

> ?

did you hear the one about Horticulture?

Why is there so much affinity between ( Antimetabole, Chiasmus ) and Wit?
---------- i suppose Freud has already analyzed that well in his famous book.

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by: candycanearter07 - Sat, 6 Apr 2024 01:16 UTC

Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote at 13:00 this Friday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> wrote:
>
>> Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote at 12:36 this Friday (GMT):
>> > [Followup-To: declined]
>> >
>> > Ammammata <ammammata@tiscali.it> wrote:
>> >
>> >> HenHanna formulated on Friday :
>> >> > Here's why: -- Antimetabole involves the repetition
>> >> > of the same words in a reversed order
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I read this somewhere, maybe related to someone brain:
>> >>
>> >> On the left there's nothing right, on the right there's nothing left.
>> >>
>> >
>> > In the case of motoring here in the UK:
>> > The right side is the wrong side; the left side is the right side.
>> >
>> > Furthermore:
>> > Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
>> >
>>
>> So an odd number of wrongs is correct?
>> What about 0 wrongs, then?
>>
>
> There's nothing wrong with that.

Ah, right.
--
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by: Sn!pe - Sat, 6 Apr 2024 01:31 UTC

candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
wrote:
[...]
> >> >> I read this somewhere, maybe related to someone brain:
> >> >>
> >> >> On the left there's nothing right, on the right there's nothing left.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > In the case of motoring here in the UK:
> >> > The right side is the wrong side; the left side is the right side.
> >> >
> >> > Furthermore:
> >> > Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
> >> >
> >>
> >> So an odd number of wrongs is correct?
> >> What about 0 wrongs, then?
> >>
> >
> > There's nothing wrong with that.
> >
>
> Ah, right.
>

I saw what you did there, all right?
I've left room below for another right-on comment.

--
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by: wugi - Sun, 7 Apr 2024 10:31 UTC

Op 5/04/2024 om 12:10 schreef HenHanna:
>
> The phrase   "Eat to live, Not live to eat"
>                        is an example of antimetabole.
>
> Here's why: -- Antimetabole involves the repetition
>                   of the same words in a reversed order.
>
>
> Antimetabole:
>
> -- Those who can, do. Those who can't, criticize. (George Bernard Shaw)
>
> -- Silence is golden, speech is silver.   (Proverb)

Those are not the same form.
I like this one, similar:

Perdre sa vie pour la gagner. (work ethics)

> -- We live to learn, and learn to live. (Latin Proverb)
>
> -- "Fair is foul, and foul is fair" (Shakespeare's Macbeth)

Des chercheurs, on les trouve. Des trouveurs, on les cherche. (R&D)

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by: candycanearter07 - Sun, 7 Apr 2024 15:00 UTC

Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote at 01:31 this Saturday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> wrote:
> [...]
>> >> >> I read this somewhere, maybe related to someone brain:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On the left there's nothing right, on the right there's nothing left.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > In the case of motoring here in the UK:
>> >> > The right side is the wrong side; the left side is the right side.
>> >> >
>> >> > Furthermore:
>> >> > Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> So an odd number of wrongs is correct?
>> >> What about 0 wrongs, then?
>> >>
>> >
>> > There's nothing wrong with that.
>> >
>>
>> Ah, right.
>>
>
> I saw what you did there, all right?
> I've left room below for another right-on comment.

....That was kinda an accident but thanks.
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by: HenHanna - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 20:13 UTC

On 4/7/2024 8:00 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote at 01:31 this Saturday (GMT):
>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>> wrote:
>> [...]
>>>>>>> I read this somewhere, maybe related to someone brain:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the left there's nothing right, on the right there's nothing left.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the case of motoring here in the UK:
>>>>>> The right side is the wrong side; the left side is the right side.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Furthermore:
>>>>>> Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So an odd number of wrongs is correct?
>>>>> What about 0 wrongs, then?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's nothing wrong with that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, right.
>>>
>>
>> I saw what you did there, all right? I've left room below for another right-on comment.
>
>
> ...That was kinda an accident but thanks.

Always check your pockets twice. You never know what the Left hand stole
from the Right.

_______________________

[No One Left to Lie To: The Triangulations of William Jefferson Clinton]
is a 1999 book about President of the United States Bill Clinton by
author and journalist Christopher Hitchens.

------- Maybe the [Left] in the title was.........

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by: candycanearter07 - Tue, 9 Apr 2024 22:50 UTC

HenHanna <HenHanna@devnull.tb> wrote at 20:13 this Tuesday (GMT):
> On 4/7/2024 8:00 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote at 01:31 this Saturday (GMT):
>>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>>>>> I read this somewhere, maybe related to someone brain:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the left there's nothing right, on the right there's nothing left.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the case of motoring here in the UK:
>>>>>>> The right side is the wrong side; the left side is the right side.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Furthermore:
>>>>>>> Two wrongs don't make a right but three lefts do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So an odd number of wrongs is correct?
>>>>>> What about 0 wrongs, then?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There's nothing wrong with that.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah, right.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I saw what you did there, all right? I've left room below for another right-on comment.
>>
>>
>> ...That was kinda an accident but thanks.
>
>
> Always check your pockets twice. You never know what the Left hand stole
> from the Right.
>
>
> _______________________
>
> [No One Left to Lie To: The Triangulations of William Jefferson Clinton]
> is a 1999 book about President of the United States Bill Clinton by
> author and journalist Christopher Hitchens.
>
>
> ------- Maybe the [Left] in the title was.........

Sorry, I don't get the joke..
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Re: ( Antimetabole, Chiasmus ) ---- Correctly Grouped?	Ammammata
Re: ( Antimetabole, Chiasmus ) ---- Correctly Grouped?	Peter Moylan
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Re: ( Antimetabole, Chiasmus ) ---- Correctly Grouped?	Ross Clark
Re: ( Antimetabole, Chiasmus ) ---- Correctly Grouped?	HenHanna
Re: ( Antimetabole, Chiasmus ) ---- Correctly Grouped?	LionelEdwards
Re: ( Antimetabole, Chiasmus ) ---- Correctly Grouped?	jerryfriedman
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