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* [ndnh] Shouldn't a killed leprechaun leave the stolen gold?Janis Papanagnou
`* [ndnh] Shouldn't a killed leprechaun leave the stolen gold?Ron Nazarov
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[ndnh] Shouldn't a killed leprechaun leave the stolen gold?

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From: janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com (Janis Papanagnou)
Newsgroups: rec.games.roguelike.nethack
Subject: [ndnh] Shouldn't a killed leprechaun leave the stolen gold?
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 by: Janis Papanagnou - Sun, 8 Oct 2023 15:12 UTC

In a notDNethack game (my character has a passive cold attack)...

"You hit the leprechaun! The leprechaun hits!"
"Your purse feels lighter. You kill it!"

But there's neither a corpse nor my gold left.
Shouldn't a killed leprechaun leave at least the stolen gold?

Janis

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From: ron@noisytoot.org (Ron Nazarov)
Newsgroups: rec.games.roguelike.nethack
Subject: Re: [ndnh] Shouldn't a killed leprechaun leave the stolen gold?
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 by: Ron Nazarov - Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:38 UTC

Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:

> In a notDNethack game (my character has a passive cold attack)...
>
> "You hit the leprechaun! The leprechaun hits!"
> "Your purse feels lighter. You kill it!"
>
> But there's neither a corpse nor my gold left.
> Shouldn't a killed leprechaun leave at least the stolen gold?

"You kill it!" means that you killed an unseen monster and leprechauns
teleport after their gold-stealing attack, so there are 2 possibilities:
1. You killed the leprechaun with your passive cold attack after it
teleported, meaning the stolen gold is somewhere on the level. This
may be a bug (passive attacks triggering after teleportation).
2. You didn't kill the leprechaun, you killed another unseen monster.

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Newsgroups: rec.games.roguelike.nethack
Subject: Re: [ndnh] Shouldn't a killed leprechaun leave the stolen gold?
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 by: Janis Papanagnou - Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:52 UTC

On 18.10.2023 13:38, Ron Nazarov wrote:
> Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> In a notDNethack game (my character has a passive cold attack)...
>>
>> "You hit the leprechaun! The leprechaun hits!"
>> "Your purse feels lighter. You kill it!"
>>
>> But there's neither a corpse nor my gold left.
>> Shouldn't a killed leprechaun leave at least the stolen gold?
>
> "You kill it!" means that you killed an unseen monster and leprechauns
> teleport after their gold-stealing attack, so there are 2 possibilities:
> 1. You killed the leprechaun with your passive cold attack after it
> teleported, meaning the stolen gold is somewhere on the level. This
> may be a bug (passive attacks triggering after teleportation).
> 2. You didn't kill the leprechaun, you killed another unseen monster.
>

I think case 2 may not be possible given the above quoted sequence of
messages; it seems to have clearly happened in the monster's turn.
So I suppose it's more like case 1. So maybe a time sequence bug, as
you suggest. (Or there's no drop of gold in case of passive attacks?)

Janis

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