https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV

On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 4:21:43 PM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
> https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV

I didn't know this factoid. Thanks. In retrospect, the Hawaiians may have overreacted just a tiny bit. Look at it from their viewpoint - this guy who is supposed to be a god keeps dropping in demanding stuff from your village.. After a while, you just gotta club him over the head and spill his brains all over the rocky shores. It was nothing personal. The Hawaiian regarded him as a powerful chief having plenty of mana and handled his remains with respect. They even ate his heart and other parts of him in order to imbibe themselves of his mana. In the end, they returned his long bones to his people. That's real class.
As it goes, anybody can overreact a tiny bit - even Floridians. The important part is no harm, no foul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI7YNOhAfzM

On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 4:21:43 PM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
> https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV

For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:28:02 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 4:21:43 PM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV
>
>For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo

On 26 January 1788, Captain Cook first set foot on Australian soil.
Chinese, Portuguese and Dutch had already been here, but didn't hang
around. January 26 is now a national holiday in Australia. It's called
Australia Day. Indigenous people and those on their side call the day
Invasion Day and want the date of Australia Day changed. I couldn't
agree more.

On 2024-02-15, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 4:21:43 PM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
>> https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV
>
> For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo

It doesn't matter who the heroes were. Guns, germs, and steel
carried the day.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:00:48 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:28:02 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 4:21:43 PM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
> >> https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV
> >
> >For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
> On 26 January 1788, Captain Cook first set foot on Australian soil.
> Chinese, Portuguese and Dutch had already been here, but didn't hang
> around. January 26 is now a national holiday in Australia. It's called
> Australia Day. Indigenous people and those on their side call the day
> Invasion Day and want the date of Australia Day changed. I couldn't
> agree more.

A lot of native Hawaiians are reluctant to call themselves "Americans." Things were a lot simpler back in the days when the history of the Kingdom of Hawaii was suppressed. My guess is that in the future, the Hawaiians will gain back the sovereignty of their Kingdom.
Breakfast this morning was crepes. It was okay, I guess. I haven't made crepes since I was in high school. These were filled with sliced banana. If I had some Nutella, I'd have spread that on too. Nutella and bananas seem to be a thing in the US.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZweTUeM3xCqiGXDY7

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 10:25:48 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-02-15, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 4:21:43 PM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
> >> https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV
> >
> > For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
> It doesn't matter who the heroes were. Guns, germs, and steel
> carried the day.
>
> --
> Cindy Hamilton

You're wrong about that. It was rocks, wooden spears, and knives given to the Hawaiians by Cook, that carried the day.

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 12:31:44 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:00:48 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:28:02 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
>> >
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
>> On 26 January 1788, Captain Cook first set foot on Australian soil.
>> Chinese, Portuguese and Dutch had already been here, but didn't hang
>> around. January 26 is now a national holiday in Australia. It's called
>> Australia Day. Indigenous people and those on their side call the day
>> Invasion Day and want the date of Australia Day changed. I couldn't
>> agree more.
>
>A lot of native Hawaiians are reluctant to call themselves "Americans." Things were a lot simpler back in the days when the history of the Kingdom of Hawaii was suppressed. My guess is that in the future, the Hawaiians will gain back the sovereignty of their Kingdom.
>
>Breakfast this morning was crepes. It was okay, I guess. I haven't made crepes since I was in high school. These were filled with sliced banana. If I had some Nutella, I'd have spread that on too. Nutella and bananas seem to be a thing in the US.
>
>https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZweTUeM3xCqiGXDY7
>
Most of the time countries refuse to give up any land area. They'd
rather go to war to increase their land area. The US and Europe don't
do that anymore, but why would the US let go of Hawaii?
>
Is that whipped cream or ice cream?
>

On 2024-02-15, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 10:25:48 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-02-15, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 4:21:43 PM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
>> >> https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV
>> >
>> > For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
>> >
>> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
>> It doesn't matter who the heroes were. Guns, germs, and steel
>> carried the day.
>>
>> --
>> Cindy Hamilton
>
> You're wrong about that. It was rocks, wooden spears, and knives given to the Hawaiians by Cook, that carried the day.

I meant in the long run.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 2024-02-15, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:00:48 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:28:02 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 4:21:43 PM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
>> >> https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV
>> >
>> >For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
>> >
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
>> On 26 January 1788, Captain Cook first set foot on Australian soil.
>> Chinese, Portuguese and Dutch had already been here, but didn't hang
>> around. January 26 is now a national holiday in Australia. It's called
>> Australia Day. Indigenous people and those on their side call the day
>> Invasion Day and want the date of Australia Day changed. I couldn't
>> agree more.
>
> A lot of native Hawaiians are reluctant to call themselves "Americans." Things were a lot simpler back in the days when the history of the Kingdom of Hawaii was suppressed. My guess is that in the future, the Hawaiians will gain back the sovereignty of their Kingdom.

Only if the law changes. It's illegal to secede from the union.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 11:16:12 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 12:31:44 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:00:48 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:28:02 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
> >> >
> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
> >> On 26 January 1788, Captain Cook first set foot on Australian soil.
> >> Chinese, Portuguese and Dutch had already been here, but didn't hang
> >> around. January 26 is now a national holiday in Australia. It's called
> >> Australia Day. Indigenous people and those on their side call the day
> >> Invasion Day and want the date of Australia Day changed. I couldn't
> >> agree more.
> >
> >A lot of native Hawaiians are reluctant to call themselves "Americans." Things were a lot simpler back in the days when the history of the Kingdom of Hawaii was suppressed. My guess is that in the future, the Hawaiians will gain back the sovereignty of their Kingdom.
> >
> >Breakfast this morning was crepes. It was okay, I guess. I haven't made crepes since I was in high school. These were filled with sliced banana. If I had some Nutella, I'd have spread that on too. Nutella and bananas seem to be a thing in the US.
> >
> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZweTUeM3xCqiGXDY7
> >
> Most of the time countries refuse to give up any land area. They'd
> rather go to war to increase their land area. The US and Europe don't
> do that anymore, but why would the US let go of Hawaii?
> >
> Is that whipped cream or ice cream?
> >

The Soviet Union broke apart into different countries. Didn't the UK break apart from the EU? Didn't Ireland break apart from the UK and Northern Ireland? The US could break apart into separate states too. This was unthinkable a decade ago but things have changed. A lot of people no longer have faith in our process of electing leaders or our constitution. My guess is our union is too far gone to survive.
That's whipped cream and caramel sauce. Americans like their pancakes on the sweet side.

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 13:41:08 -0800 (PST), dsi1
<dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:

>On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 11:16:12 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 12:31:44 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 9:00:48 AM UTC-10, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:28:02 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
>> >> >
>> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
>> >> On 26 January 1788, Captain Cook first set foot on Australian soil.
>> >> Chinese, Portuguese and Dutch had already been here, but didn't hang
>> >> around. January 26 is now a national holiday in Australia. It's called
>> >> Australia Day. Indigenous people and those on their side call the day
>> >> Invasion Day and want the date of Australia Day changed. I couldn't
>> >> agree more.
>> >
>> >A lot of native Hawaiians are reluctant to call themselves "Americans." Things were a lot simpler back in the days when the history of the Kingdom of Hawaii was suppressed. My guess is that in the future, the Hawaiians will gain back the sovereignty of their Kingdom.
>> >
>> >Breakfast this morning was crepes. It was okay, I guess. I haven't made crepes since I was in high school. These were filled with sliced banana. If I had some Nutella, I'd have spread that on too. Nutella and bananas seem to be a thing in the US.
>> >
>> >https://photos.app.goo.gl/ZweTUeM3xCqiGXDY7
>> >
>> Most of the time countries refuse to give up any land area. They'd
>> rather go to war to increase their land area. The US and Europe don't
>> do that anymore, but why would the US let go of Hawaii?
>> >
>> Is that whipped cream or ice cream?
>> >
>
>The Soviet Union broke apart into different countries. Didn't the UK break apart from the EU? Didn't Ireland break apart from the UK and Northern Ireland? The US could break apart into separate states too. This was unthinkable a decade ago but things have changed. A lot of people no longer have faith in our process of electing leaders or our constitution. My guess is our union is too far gone to survive.
>
I don't think the US will fall apart. I also don't see the advantage
to anybody, although I don't know about Hawaii's perspective.
>
>That's whipped cream and caramel sauce. Americans like their pancakes on the sweet side.
>
Me too, although I can't remember the last time I had a pancake or
crepe.

On 2024-02-15 3:25 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-02-15, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 4:21:43 PM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV
>>
>> For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a
>> heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town
>> bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to
>> kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many
>> people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
>
> It doesn't matter who the heroes were. Guns, germs, and steel
> carried the day.

There is a lot of truth to that. I would suggest that the English had a
way of making alliances with some of the locals and then planting some
of their own kind on the soil to ensure loyalty, something that the
Americans have tried to emulate. Give them some infrastructure and a
semblance of a fair government and you have acquired some territory for
your empire. Sometimes the people you plant there rebel, like in Ireland
and the US.

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-02-15, dsi1 <dsi123@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 10:25:48 AM UTC-10, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>> On 2024-02-15, dsi1 <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 4:21:43 PM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
>>>>> https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV
>>>>
>>>> For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
>>> It doesn't matter who the heroes were. Guns, germs, and steel
>>> carried the day.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cindy Hamilton
>>
>> You're wrong about that. It was rocks, wooden spears, and knives given to the Hawaiians by Cook, that carried the day.
>
> I meant in the long run.
>

Shhh. Uncle Tojo has much aloha for da hawayans.

On 2/14/2024 9:21 PM, Ed P wrote:
>
> https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV

Oh Ed... there's always this (which has nothing to do with Hawaii):

https://www.history.com/topics/crime/saint-valentines-day-massacre

Chicago gangsters and bootleggers, Al Capone!

Jill

On Friday 16 February 2024 at 03:00:48 UTC+8, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:28:02 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
> >On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 4:21:43 PM UTC-10, Ed P wrote:
> >> https://imgur.com/gallery/j7WZcJV
> >
> >For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
> On 26 January 1788, Captain Cook first set foot on Australian soil.
> Chinese, Portuguese and Dutch had already been here, but didn't hang
> around. January 26 is now a national holiday in Australia. It's called
> Australia Day. Indigenous people and those on their side call the day
> Invasion Day and want the date of Australia Day changed. I couldn't
> agree more.

Captain Cook landed in Australia 29th April 1770. 26th January 1788 was the date the first fleet landed at Sydney Cove and planted the flag to claim the land, having first arrived at Botany Bay on 20th January 1788. Yes the date of Australia Day should be changed, it has changed several times over the years. A large section of the Australian public is racist, either overtly or passively, after all the majority of Australians don't even want the first people recognised in the Constitution.

JB

On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:40:49 -0800 (PST), Golden One
<jpburns@westnet.com.au> wrote:

>On Friday 16 February 2024 at 03:00:48 UTC+8, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:28:02 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>>
>> >For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
>> >
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
>> On 26 January 1788, Captain Cook first set foot on Australian soil.
>> Chinese, Portuguese and Dutch had already been here, but didn't hang
>> around. January 26 is now a national holiday in Australia. It's called
>> Australia Day. Indigenous people and those on their side call the day
>> Invasion Day and want the date of Australia Day changed. I couldn't
>> agree more.
>
>Captain Cook landed in Australia 29th April 1770. 26th January 1788 was the date the first fleet landed at Sydney Cove and planted the flag to claim the land, having first arrived at Botany Bay on 20th January 1788. Yes the date of Australia Day should be changed, it has changed several times over the years. A large section of the Australian public is racist, either overtly or passively, after all the majority of Australians don't even want the first people recognised in the Constitution.

I stand corrected.

If you're referring to the The Voice referendum, for which I voted
Yes, I don't think all No voters are racists. It was presented and
explained poorly and most people didn't really know what a Yes would
mean.

Bruce wrote:
....
> If you're referring to the The Voice referendum, for which I voted
> Yes, I don't think all No voters are racists. It was presented and
> explained poorly and most people didn't really know what a Yes would
> mean.

i think the constitution should be color blind (as it
should also not be dealing in religion) so to me having
some element of society set apart in a constitution adds
an element of class to the whole thing and that should
always be avoided.

songbird

On 2024-02-16 7:49 a.m., songbird wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
> ...
>> If you're referring to the The Voice referendum, for which I voted
>> Yes, I don't think all No voters are racists. It was presented and
>> explained poorly and most people didn't really know what a Yes would
>> mean.
>
> i think the constitution should be color blind (as it
> should also not be dealing in religion) so to me having
> some element of society set apart in a constitution adds
> an element of class to the whole thing and that should
> always be avoided.
>
>

All people are equal but some are more equal that others.

On 2/16/2024 7:49 AM, songbird wrote:
> Bruce wrote:
> ...
>> If you're referring to the The Voice referendum, for which I voted
>> Yes, I don't think all No voters are racists. It was presented and
>> explained poorly and most people didn't really know what a Yes would
>> mean.
>
> i think the constitution should be color blind (as it
> should also not be dealing in religion) so to me having
> some element of society set apart in a constitution adds
> an element of class to the whole thing and that should
> always be avoided.
>
>
> songbird
Spending money is a religious experience. It is stamped with "In God We
Trust"

On Friday 16 February 2024 at 14:37:56 UTC+8, Bruce wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:40:49 -0800 (PST), Golden One
> <jpb...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> >On Friday 16 February 2024 at 03:00:48 UTC+8, Bruce wrote:
> >> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:28:02 -0800 (PST), dsi1
> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
> >> >
> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
> >> On 26 January 1788, Captain Cook first set foot on Australian soil.
> >> Chinese, Portuguese and Dutch had already been here, but didn't hang
> >> around. January 26 is now a national holiday in Australia. It's called
> >> Australia Day. Indigenous people and those on their side call the day
> >> Invasion Day and want the date of Australia Day changed. I couldn't
> >> agree more.
> >
> >Captain Cook landed in Australia 29th April 1770. 26th January 1788 was the date the first fleet landed at Sydney Cove and planted the flag to claim the land, having first arrived at Botany Bay on 20th January 1788. Yes the date of Australia Day should be changed, it has changed several times over the years. A large section of the Australian public is racist, either overtly or passively, after all the majority of Australians don't even want the first people recognised in the Constitution.
> I stand corrected.
>
> If you're referring to the The Voice referendum, for which I voted
> Yes, I don't think all No voters are racists. It was presented and
> explained poorly and most people didn't really know what a Yes would
> mean.

I voted yes, too. I guess it depends where you live as to how much racism you see. I live in the midwest of WA where racism is rampant. Some people have no compunction about saying the most vile things openly.

Meanwhile, I don't know if I am going to make it through summer without melting. Hottest Feb on record. So far about 12 days over 40C, 8 of those 46+, topped out yesterday at 49.5, already 44 at 8.30 this morning. Yesterday I did some Foodbank deliveries about 2 hours inland where it hit 53C. You won't see that temperature recorded anywhere, they don't have an official recorder.

Had a fabulous kitchen sink salad for dinner, topped with grilled squid and a Thai inspired dressing of my own invention.

JB

On Sun, 18 Feb 2024 18:22:11 -0800 (PST), Golden One
<jpburns@westnet.com.au> wrote:

>On Friday 16 February 2024 at 14:37:56 UTC+8, Bruce wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:40:49 -0800 (PST), Golden One
>> <jpb...@westnet.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday 16 February 2024 at 03:00:48 UTC+8, Bruce wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 10:28:02 -0800 (PST), dsi1
>> >> <dsi...@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >For the Hawaiians and much of Polynesia, Cap'n Cook isn't much of a heroic figure. Who can blame them? Some alien comes to your town bringing diseases and death. The alien knows that this is going to kill off a lot of natives but he just didn't care. For a great many people in the Pacific, it's the Hawaiians that were the heroes.
>> >> >
>> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agsiFcRGAQo
>> >> On 26 January 1788, Captain Cook first set foot on Australian soil.
>> >> Chinese, Portuguese and Dutch had already been here, but didn't hang
>> >> around. January 26 is now a national holiday in Australia. It's called
>> >> Australia Day. Indigenous people and those on their side call the day
>> >> Invasion Day and want the date of Australia Day changed. I couldn't
>> >> agree more.
>> >
>> >Captain Cook landed in Australia 29th April 1770. 26th January 1788 was the date the first fleet landed at Sydney Cove and planted the flag to claim the land, having first arrived at Botany Bay on 20th January 1788. Yes the date of Australia Day should be changed, it has changed several times over the years. A large section of the Australian public is racist, either overtly or passively, after all the majority of Australians don't even want the first people recognised in the Constitution.
>> I stand corrected.
>>
>> If you're referring to the The Voice referendum, for which I voted
>> Yes, I don't think all No voters are racists. It was presented and
>> explained poorly and most people didn't really know what a Yes would
>> mean.
>
>I voted yes, too. I guess it depends where you live as to how much racism you see. I live in the midwest of WA where racism is rampant. Some people have no compunction about saying the most vile things openly.
>
>Meanwhile, I don't know if I am going to make it through summer without melting. Hottest Feb on record. So far about 12 days over 40C, 8 of those 46+, topped out yesterday at 49.5, already 44 at 8.30 this morning. Yesterday I did some Foodbank deliveries about 2 hours inland where it hit 53C. You won't see that temperature recorded anywhere, they don't have an official recorder.
>
>Had a fabulous kitchen sink salad for dinner, topped with grilled squid and a Thai inspired dressing of my own invention.

I never see any racism, but I also don't often see people, indigenous
or not. Working from home and living in the countryside, I see more
kangaroos than people.

Those temperatures are terrible. I don't think anybody in Australia,
from farmers to greens, still denies climate change.

Golden One wrote:

> On Friday 16 February 2024 at 14:37:56 UTC+8, Bruce wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:40:49 -0800 (PST), Golden One
> > <jpb...@westnet.com.au> wrote:

> > If you're referring to the The Voice referendum, for which I voted
> > Yes, I don't think all No voters are racists. It was presented and
> > explained poorly and most people didn't really know what a Yes
> > would mean.
>
> I voted yes, too. I guess it depends where you live as to how much
> racism you see. I live in the midwest of WA where racism is rampant.
> Some people have no compunction about saying the most vile things
> openly.

This true but some folks live with their head in the sand and that's
true everywhere.

> Meanwhile, I don't know if I am going to make it through summer
> without melting. Hottest Feb on record. So far about 12 days over
> 40C, 8 of those 46+, topped out yesterday at 49.5, already 44 at 8.30
> this morning. Yesterday I did some Foodbank deliveries about 2 hours
> inland where it hit 53C. You won't see that temperature recorded
> anywhere, they don't have an official recorder.

Ouch! I've never benn to austrailia in full summer nor inland. Darwin
normally for me as the US Navy ships types that pull in there are
Amphibious assault types. I did 7 years homeported in Sabebo Japan on
2 amphibs, so saw Darwin a fair amount.

> Had a fabulous kitchen sink salad for dinner, topped with grilled
> squid and a Thai inspired dressing of my own invention.
>
> JB

Grin, welcome and if you want to keep posting, you'll neew to join
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but more complex to set up. Xananews pretty much works out of the box
but a heck of a lot easier to setup. It's just as flexible and both
are still currently supported.

Carol

On 2024-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Those temperatures are terrible. I don't think anybody in Australia,
> from farmers to greens, still denies climate change.

Nor did any of our ancient ancestors. They called it "the weather".
Starting in the mid-Seventies, meteorologists started calling themselves
climatologists and needed a cause. First, it was global cooling. I lost
my first career to that. Then, it was global warming. That didn't work
out well either.
So, now it's climate change. No Sh*t! The climate has experienced
continuous change since the planet formed. They can't go wrong with
that. Send them money! Promote the cause! After all, they're
"scientists", and junk science is a political win-win.

On 19 Feb 2024 21:13:40 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell
<leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 2024-02-19, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Those temperatures are terrible. I don't think anybody in Australia,
>> from farmers to greens, still denies climate change.
>
>
>Nor did any of our ancient ancestors. They called it "the weather".
>Starting in the mid-Seventies, meteorologists started calling themselves
>climatologists and needed a cause. First, it was global cooling. I lost
>my first career to that. Then, it was global warming. That didn't work
>out well either.
>So, now it's climate change. No Sh*t! The climate has experienced
>continuous change since the planet formed. They can't go wrong with
>that. Send them money! Promote the cause! After all, they're
>"scientists", and junk science is a political win-win.

Back to Fox News with you, Leo.