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by: Tom Del Rosso - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 00:12 UTC

I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it at
250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does make them
taste more like chocolate.

What are they good for? Can you melt them?

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by: BryanGSimmons - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 00:16 UTC

On 3/18/2024 7:12 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it at
> 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does make them
> taste more like chocolate.
>
> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
>
Carob is good for nothing. For some reason, hippies used to prefer it
to chocolate.

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by: ItsJoanNotJoAnn - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 01:18 UTC

Tom Del Rosso wrote:

> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it at
> 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does make them
> taste more like chocolate.

> What are they good for? Can you melt them?

Carob powder is disgusting stuff. I don't know why anyone would think
it's comparable to cocoa/chocolate; you wasted your money.

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by: Dave Smith - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 02:09 UTC

On 2024-03-18 9:18 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
> Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>
>> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
>> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it at
>> 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does make
>> them taste more like chocolate.
>
>> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
>
>
> Carob powder is disgusting stuff. I don't know why anyone would think
> it's comparable to cocoa/chocolate; you wasted your money.

Are they still flogging that stuff as a substitute for chocolate. I knew
some people back in the 70s who were into health foods and kept trying
to get us to use it. I tried it. It was crap then and it never got any
better.

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by: Ed P - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 02:35 UTC

On 3/18/2024 8:12 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it at
> 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does make them
> taste more like chocolate.
>
> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
>
>

They are good for dog treats. They can be melted with some oil with them.

Other uses, put them in a cloth bag to make a paper weight.

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by: GM - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 02:40 UTC

BryanGSimmons wrote:

> On 3/18/2024 7:12 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
>> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it at
>> 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does make them
>> taste more like chocolate.
>>
>> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
> >
> Carob is good for nothing. For some reason, hippies used to prefer it
> to chocolate.

"Carob and ****Tom Del Rosso**** are good for nothing..."

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by: Graham - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 04:03 UTC

On 2024-03-18 8:09 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
> On 2024-03-18 9:18 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>> Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>>
>>> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
>>> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it
>>> at 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does make
>>> them taste more like chocolate.
>>
>>> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
>>
>>
>> Carob powder is disgusting stuff. I don't know why anyone would think
>> it's comparable to cocoa/chocolate; you wasted your money.
>
> Are they still flogging that stuff as a substitute for chocolate. I knew
> some people back in the 70s who were into health foods and kept trying
> to get us to use it. I tried it. It was crap then and it never got any
> better.

Why all the negativity? I quite like the taste. Of course I prefer
chocolate.

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by: Bruce - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 04:34 UTC

On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 22:03:26 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

>On 2024-03-18 8:09 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2024-03-18 9:18 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>> Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
>>>> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it
>>>> at 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does make
>>>> them taste more like chocolate.
>>>
>>>> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
>>>
>>> Carob powder is disgusting stuff. I don't know why anyone would think
>>> it's comparable to cocoa/chocolate; you wasted your money.
>>
>> Are they still flogging that stuff as a substitute for chocolate. I knew
>> some people back in the 70s who were into health foods and kept trying
>> to get us to use it. I tried it. It was crap then and it never got any
>> better.
>
>Why all the negativity? I quite like the taste. Of course I prefer
>chocolate.

When the Archie Bunkers of RFC think "hippie", they think "hate".

(I don't even know what carob is.)

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by: Bruce - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 04:53 UTC

On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 04:41:58 +0000, ItsJoanNotJoAnn@webtv.net
(ItsJoanNotJoAnn) wrote:

>Bruce wrote:
>>
>> (I don't even know what carob is.)
>>
>Trust me, you haven't missed a thing.

I once had acorn coffee at a friend's. Maybe that's comparable.

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by: Dave Smith - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 12:32 UTC

On 2024-03-19 12:03 a.m., Graham wrote:
> On 2024-03-18 8:09 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2024-03-18 9:18 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>> Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
>>>> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it
>>>> at 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does
>>>> make them taste more like chocolate.
>>>
>>>> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
>>>
>>>
>>> Carob powder is disgusting stuff. I don't know why anyone would think
>>> it's comparable to cocoa/chocolate; you wasted your money.
>>
>> Are they still flogging that stuff as a substitute for chocolate. I
>> knew some people back in the 70s who were into health foods and kept
>> trying to get us to use it. I tried it. It was crap then and it never
>> got any better.
>
> Why all the negativity? I quite like the taste. Of course I prefer
> chocolate.

It is the attempt to fool a chocolate lover. It has some qualities that
resemble chocolate but it isn't anywhere close to the same. It makes me
think of US senator Bentsen's response to Dan Quayle saying "Senator,
you're no Jack Kennedy. We reserve the right to be indignant when people
make false claims.

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by: Cindy Hamilton - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 13:13 UTC

On 2024-03-19, Dave Smith <adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> On 2024-03-19 12:03 a.m., Graham wrote:
>> On 2024-03-18 8:09 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-18 9:18 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>>> Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
>>>>> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it
>>>>> at 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does
>>>>> make them taste more like chocolate.
>>>>
>>>>> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Carob powder is disgusting stuff. I don't know why anyone would think
>>>> it's comparable to cocoa/chocolate; you wasted your money.
>>>
>>> Are they still flogging that stuff as a substitute for chocolate. I
>>> knew some people back in the 70s who were into health foods and kept
>>> trying to get us to use it. I tried it. It was crap then and it never
>>> got any better.
>>
>> Why all the negativity? I quite like the taste. Of course I prefer
>> chocolate.
>
> It is the attempt to fool a chocolate lover. It has some qualities that
> resemble chocolate but it isn't anywhere close to the same. It makes me
> think of US senator Bentsen's response to Dan Quayle saying "Senator,
> you're no Jack Kennedy. We reserve the right to be indignant when people
> make false claims.

I suppose if one were allergic to chocolate, it would be better
than nothing.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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by: songbird - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 13:23 UTC

Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it at
> 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does make them
> taste more like chocolate.
>
> What are they good for? Can you melt them?

just eat them. but pretty much i agree with the others
that i'd rather have chocolate itself.

as someone who used to make a lot of chocolates there
hasn't been anything comparable in taste and texture so
unless forced i see no reason to use something else
instead.

and for those who hate on white chocolate, i've always
enjoyed it in small amounts and some chocolates i've made
are quite wonderful (maple walnut filled or plain maple
and most coconut oriented ones of various flavors).

songbird

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by: Cindy Hamilton - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 15:22 UTC

On 2024-03-19, songbird <songbird@anthive.com> wrote:
> Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
>> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it at
>> 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does make them
>> taste more like chocolate.
>>
>> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
>
> just eat them. but pretty much i agree with the others
> that i'd rather have chocolate itself.
>
> as someone who used to make a lot of chocolates there
> hasn't been anything comparable in taste and texture so
> unless forced i see no reason to use something else
> instead.
>
> and for those who hate on white chocolate, i've always
> enjoyed it in small amounts and some chocolates i've made
> are quite wonderful (maple walnut filled or plain maple
> and most coconut oriented ones of various flavors).

If you go in for that sort of thing. I like an occasional
truffle or chocolate-covered caramel. But I always return to
plain semisweet chocolate.

--
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by: Bruce - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 17:12 UTC

On Tue, 19 Mar 2024 08:32:25 -0400, Dave Smith
<adavid.smith@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>On 2024-03-19 12:03 a.m., Graham wrote:
>> On 2024-03-18 8:09 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-18 9:18 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>>> Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
>>>>> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it
>>>>> at 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does
>>>>> make them taste more like chocolate.
>>>>
>>>>> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Carob powder is disgusting stuff. I don't know why anyone would think
>>>> it's comparable to cocoa/chocolate; you wasted your money.
>>>
>>> Are they still flogging that stuff as a substitute for chocolate. I
>>> knew some people back in the 70s who were into health foods and kept
>>> trying to get us to use it. I tried it. It was crap then and it never
>>> got any better.
>>
>> Why all the negativity? I quite like the taste. Of course I prefer
>> chocolate.
>
>It is the attempt to fool a chocolate lover. It has some qualities that
>resemble chocolate but it isn't anywhere close to the same. It makes me
>think of US senator Bentsen's response to Dan Quayle saying "Senator,
>you're no Jack Kennedy. We reserve the right to be indignant when people
>make false claims.

Indignant is your middle name.

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Jill

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by: Dave Smith - Tue, 19 Mar 2024 23:17 UTC

On 2024-03-19 6:55 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> On 3/18/2024 8:12 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

>> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
>>
>>
> They're not good for much. Carob will never taste like chocolate. If
> you want to make hot chocolate, buy cocoa powder.
>

That is the way I make it most of the time. We often have chocolate
syrup on hand and it is made from the recipe on the cocoa powder can.
IIRC it is one part cocoa powder, two parts sugar and two parts water.
Mix the sugar and cocoa together and stir in the water. Put it on on
high heat and bring it to a boil and let if boil for about a minute and
then add a bit of vanilla extract. It's great on ice cream and makes
decent cocoa. If the have no syrup on hand I mix cocoa powder and
sugar in a mug and then stir in a bit of milk. Then add hot milk.
It makes a great hot chocolate for a cold winter night, way better than
any commercial syrup or powder and definitely better than anything that
comes in a packet to which you add hot water.

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by: jmcquown - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 00:24 UTC

On 3/19/2024 12:03 AM, Graham wrote:
> On 2024-03-18 8:09 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>> On 2024-03-18 9:18 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>> Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
>>>> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it
>>>> at 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does
>>>> make them taste more like chocolate.
>>>
>>>> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
>>>
>>>
>>> Carob powder is disgusting stuff. I don't know why anyone would think
>>> it's comparable to cocoa/chocolate; you wasted your money.
>>
>> Are they still flogging that stuff as a substitute for chocolate. I
>> knew some people back in the 70s who were into health foods and kept
>> trying to get us to use it. I tried it. It was crap then and it never
>> got any better.
>
> Why all the negativity? I quite like the taste. Of course I prefer
> chocolate.

You might like the taste of carob but I never found it appealing or at
all chocolatey.

Jill

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by: Cindy Hamilton - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 10:00 UTC

On 2024-03-20, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 3/19/2024 12:03 AM, Graham wrote:
>> On 2024-03-18 8:09 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-18 9:18 p.m., ItsJoanNotJoAnn wrote:
>>>> Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I had hoped I might be able to make hot chocolate with carob, so I
>>>>> experimented by putting some chips on non-stick foil and heating it
>>>>> at 250. To my surprise they don't even melt, but "roasting" does
>>>>> make them taste more like chocolate.
>>>>
>>>>> What are they good for? Can you melt them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Carob powder is disgusting stuff. I don't know why anyone would think
>>>> it's comparable to cocoa/chocolate; you wasted your money.
>>>
>>> Are they still flogging that stuff as a substitute for chocolate. I
>>> knew some people back in the 70s who were into health foods and kept
>>> trying to get us to use it. I tried it. It was crap then and it never
>>> got any better.
>>
>> Why all the negativity? I quite like the taste. Of course I prefer
>> chocolate.
>
> You might like the taste of carob but I never found it appealing or at
> all chocolatey.

If you don't think of it as chocolate, it's got an interesting flavor.

Of course, if chocolate gave you migraines, you might be more receptive
to the idea of carob.

--
Cindy Hamilton

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by: cshenk - Wed, 20 Mar 2024 19:20 UTC

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2024-03-19 6:55 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
> > On 3/18/2024 8:12 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
>
> > > What are they good for? Can you melt them?
> > >
> > >
> > They're not good for much. Carob will never taste like chocolate.
> > If you want to make hot chocolate, buy cocoa powder.
> >
>
>
> That is the way I make it most of the time. We often have chocolate
> syrup on hand and it is made from the recipe on the cocoa powder can.
> IIRC it is one part cocoa powder, two parts sugar and two parts
> water. Mix the sugar and cocoa together and stir in the water. Put it
> on on high heat and bring it to a boil and let if boil for about a
> minute and then add a bit of vanilla extract. It's great on ice cream
> and makes decent cocoa. If the have no syrup on hand I mix cocoa
> powder and sugar in a mug and then stir in a bit of milk. Then add
> hot milk. It makes a great hot chocolate for a cold winter night,
> way better than any commercial syrup or powder and definitely better
> than anything that comes in a packet to which you add hot water.

Mom used to somes make it from scratch.

Per serving:

3/4 c milk
1.5 TB sugar
1.5 TB coco powder (or 2 TB).

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by: Tom Del Rosso - Sat, 23 Mar 2024 00:34 UTC

Graham wrote:
>
> Why all the negativity? I quite like the taste. Of course I prefer
> chocolate.

I prefer chocolate too of course, but it has oxalates which form kidney
stones.

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by: Tom Del Rosso - Sat, 23 Mar 2024 00:40 UTC

Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>
> If you don't think of it as chocolate, it's got an interesting flavor.
>
> Of course, if chocolate gave you migraines, you might be more
> receptive to the idea of carob.

Right, there are multiple reasons. It tastes like cheap chocolate, like
"chocolatey" Easter bunnies.

People have been making hot chocolate with water since the 70's, and I
think that's bad enough that carob might possibly have been better, if
only it would melt.

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by: Tom Del Rosso - Sat, 23 Mar 2024 00:52 UTC

songbird wrote:
>
> just eat them. but pretty much i agree with the others
> that i'd rather have chocolate itself.

Yeah, they're not so bad like that.

> as someone who used to make a lot of chocolates there
> hasn't been anything comparable in taste and texture so
> unless forced i see no reason to use something else
> instead.
>
> and for those who hate on white chocolate, i've always
> enjoyed it in small amounts and some chocolates i've made
> are quite wonderful (maple walnut filled or plain maple
> and most coconut oriented ones of various flavors).

Yeah [sigh] I enjoyed chocolate too until it started sending me to the
hospital.

It looks like white chocolate is the only decent substitute, but not for
hot chocolate.

Thanks all, anyway, except the anonymous GM thing which I'm sure is
anonymous for a good reason.

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by: Cindy Hamilton - Sat, 23 Mar 2024 09:17 UTC

On 2024-03-23, Tom Del Rosso <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> wrote:
> Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>
>> If you don't think of it as chocolate, it's got an interesting flavor.
>>
>> Of course, if chocolate gave you migraines, you might be more
>> receptive to the idea of carob.
>
> Right, there are multiple reasons. It tastes like cheap chocolate, like
> "chocolatey" Easter bunnies.
>
> People have been making hot chocolate with water since the 70's,

Using a mix that contains powdered milk.

> and I
> think that's bad enough that carob might possibly have been better, if
> only it would melt.

Ditch the chips and use carob powder:

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/204829/hot-carob/

Other recipes are available on the web if you don't like this one.

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by: jmcquown - Sat, 23 Mar 2024 14:09 UTC

On 3/22/2024 8:52 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> Thanks all, anyway, except the anonymous GM thing which I'm sure is
> anonymous for a good reason.

You've got that right. :)

Jill

Subject	Author
Carob chips	Tom Del Rosso
Re: Carob chips	BryanGSimmons
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Re: Carob chips	Dave Smith
Re: Carob chips	Graham
Re: Carob chips	Bruce
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Re: Carob chips	Bruce
Re: Carob chips	Dave Smith
Re: Carob chips	Cindy Hamilton
Re: Carob chips	Bruce
Re: Carob chips	jmcquown
Re: Carob chips	Cindy Hamilton
Re: Carob chips	Tom Del Rosso
Re: Carob chips	Cindy Hamilton
Re: Carob chips	Tom Del Rosso
Re: Carob chips	songbird
Re: Carob chips	BryanGSimmons
Re: Carob chips	Ed P
Re: Carob chips	songbird
Re: Carob chips	Cindy Hamilton
Re: Carob chips	Tom Del Rosso
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Re: Carob chips	GM
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