Hank Rogers wrote:

> GM wrote:
>> Graham wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-22 1:59 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is like a number of other movies loosely based on history, though
>>>>> they take incidents from one event and slip them into something
>>>>> completely different. It seems to happen a lot with Mel Gibson movies.
>>>>>
>>>> Well, I haven't seen a Mel Gibson movie in a long time but he was very
>>>> nice to look at. :)
>>>>
>>> But he has repulsive beliefs!
>>
>>
>> "Many Christian voters credit President Trump with a series of policy
>> victories, including the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in 2022 to overturn
>> the constitutional right to abortion after he appointed three conservative
>> justices to the court, plus the moving of the U.S. embassy in Israel to
>> Jerusalem...
>>
>> "There's a lot of evangelical conservative Christian voters that have some
>> challenges with some aspects of his personality, but when they look at his
>> policies, what he did, juxtaposed to what we have, and what's proposed by
>> those on the other side, it's a no-brainer," said Tony Perkins, president
>> of the Family Research Council evangelical advocacy group..."
>> O:-)

> Indeed. And I would like to add that many of President Trump's very close
> supporters have claimed that this man's shit does not stink. They tested by
> rubbing on their faces.

> The man is a new god in modern america, worshiped by most all fervent
> Christians. Muslims also believe he is Allah, or at least a re-incarnated
> Mohammed. They claim it's OK to eat ham, if they've just rubbed a little of
> trump's shit on the meat. A teaspoon of this holy shit will purify 100
> hams. Small genuine trump turds are going for $1000 on ebay, and come with
> a maga certificate of authenticity. Larger turds (with velvet lined
> presentation boxes) can be purchased on truth social for $100,000. The
> proceeds go to the defense fund.

> Even poor quisling joe biden has admitted that trump's shit don't stink and
> he regularly uses it to anoint republican members of the house.

Sire Hank...!!!

The Royal House of Dataw don't allow such "scatalogical" talk...

Princess Jill only likes nice "clean" joshing and humour...

You don't need no "trip to the Tower" for one of her bloody "haircuts" - BEWARE...!!!

--
GM

On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:08:32 -0500, Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
>
>Indeed. And I would like to add that many of President Trump's very close
>supporters have claimed that this man's shit does not stink. They tested by
>rubbing on their faces.
>
>The man is a new god in modern america, worshiped by most all fervent
>Christians. Muslims also believe he is Allah, or at least a re-incarnated
>Mohammed. They claim it's OK to eat ham, if they've just rubbed a little of
>trump's shit on the meat. A teaspoon of this holy shit will purify 100
>hams. Small genuine trump turds are going for $1000 on ebay, and come with
>a maga certificate of authenticity. Larger turds (with velvet lined
>presentation boxes) can be purchased on truth social for $100,000. The
>proceeds go to the defense fund.
>
>Even poor quisling joe biden has admitted that trump's shit don't stink and
>he regularly uses it to anoint republican members of the house.

Hank's back to his main interest.

Hank Rogers wrote:

> GM wrote:
>> Graham wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-22 1:59 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is like a number of other movies loosely based on history, though
>>>>> they take incidents from one event and slip them into something
>>>>> completely different. It seems to happen a lot with Mel Gibson movies.
>>>>>
>>>> Well, I haven't seen a Mel Gibson movie in a long time but he was very
>>>> nice to look at. :)
>>>>
>>> But he has repulsive beliefs!
>>
>>
>> "Many Christian voters credit President Trump with a series of policy
>> victories, including the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in 2022 to overturn
>> the constitutional right to abortion after he appointed three conservative
>> justices to the court, plus the moving of the U.S. embassy in Israel to
>> Jerusalem...
>>
>> "There's a lot of evangelical conservative Christian voters that have some
>> challenges with some aspects of his personality, but when they look at his
>> policies, what he did, juxtaposed to what we have, and what's proposed by
>> those on the other side, it's a no-brainer," said Tony Perkins, president
>> of the Family Research Council evangelical advocacy group..."
>> O:-)

> Indeed. And I would like to add that many of President Trump's very close
> supporters have claimed that this man's shit does not stink. They tested by
> rubbing on their faces.

> The man is a new god in modern america, worshiped by most all fervent
> Christians. Muslims also believe he is Allah, or at least a re-incarnated
> Mohammed. They claim it's OK to eat ham, if they've just rubbed a little of
> trump's shit on the meat. A teaspoon of this holy shit will purify 100
> hams. Small genuine trump turds are going for $1000 on ebay, and come with
> a maga certificate of authenticity. Larger turds (with velvet lined
> presentation boxes) can be purchased on truth social for $100,000. The
> proceeds go to the defense fund.

> Even poor quisling joe biden has admitted that trump's shit don't stink and
> he regularly uses it to anoint republican members of the house.

America's Intellectual "Bloodbath"

If a censored tree falls in the forest, do we still have to misquote it?

MATT TAIBBI - Racket News - MAR 22, 202

"Trump gave a speech last Sunday in Dayton, Ohio...

The “bloodbath” portion concerned a promise to slap a 100% tariff on foreign cars, and the quote was, “If I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath.”

Acyn, a media chop shop funded by blue-party PAC Meidas Touch, put out a 17-second tweet, which the Biden-Harris campaign shortened to nine seconds...

This triggered the usual outrage battery...

Biden spokesperson James Singer said it was clear Trump “wants another January 6th.”...

David Corn said Trump “endorsed political violence.”...

Even Hillary Clinton slid her crypt open to contribute...

“Bloodbath” was clearly economic metaphor, and the worst thing you could say about it is that it underscored a general Trump tendency to preach doom and disaster in a way some consider irresponsible...

I don’t...

This rhetoric works for Trump for a reason, the same one that makes the media miss on “bloodbath” a double-insult...

This apocalyptic speech resonates in places like Dayton, a region that produced six million vehicles between 1981 and an infamous GM plant closure in 2008. There’s now a Chinese auto-glass factory on the site. Many people in that part of the world watched $30-an-hour factory jobs turned into $1-an-hour gigs for Mexican counterparts after NAFTA, which explains why crowds tend to respond to heated rhetoric about the border...

You don’t have to agree with Trump’s stances on these issues, but not understanding why they work is rhetorical malpractice...

The “bloodbath” episode is exposing how even a nationwide digital blackout of Trump can’t and won’t work, ever...

It’s not Trump’s own statements or online “misinformation” or Russian bots or Decepticons or Marilyn Manson or the Reverse Flash or any other diabolical villain animating Trump’s campaign...

It’s people who hate him the most, in media, who’ve become nearly the whole of his PR operation...

It was amazing this week, watching how close the press came to realizing the mistake they’ve made by combining constant mischaracterizations with censorship...

That despite the “successful effort to deplatform,” despite the piles of criminal charges and hundreds of millions in fines and (soon, apparently) property seizures, people are still turning out in throngs to speeches like this one in Dayton...???

Isn’t that what’s got all these media folk so spun up...???"

;-D

--
GM

On 3/22/2024 7:25 PM, GM wrote:

>
> "There's a lot of evangelical conservative Christian voters that have
> some challenges with some aspects of his personality, but when they look
> at his policies, what he did, juxtaposed to what we have, and what's
> proposed by those on the other side, it's a no-brainer," said Tony
> Perkins, president of the Family Research Council evangelical advocacy
> group..."
> O:-)

Yes, the evangelicals want to take over the world and make the rules too.

Eliminate divorce, birth control, most rights of women.

https://theconversation.com/evangelical-churches-believe-men-should-control-women-thats-why-they-breed-domestic-violence-127437

Male authority in God’s plan
Traditional understandings about male headship, both in the family and
the Church, were promoted as being ordained by God. This meant the
authority of men and the subordination of women were considered to be
“permanently binding” principles.

Conservative evangelical Christians enthusiastically embraced this as a
form of resistance against the feminist movement, and still support
these “permanently binding” principles today.

On 2024-03-22 6:41 p.m., Ed P wrote:
> On 3/22/2024 7:25 PM, GM wrote:
>
>>
>> "There's a lot of evangelical conservative Christian voters that have
>> some challenges with some aspects of his personality, but when they
>> look at his policies, what he did, juxtaposed to what we have, and
>> what's proposed by those on the other side, it's a no-brainer," said
>> Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council evangelical
>> advocacy group..."
>> O:-)
>
> Yes, the evangelicals want to take over the world and make the rules too.
>
> Eliminate divorce, birth control, most rights of women.
>
> https://theconversation.com/evangelical-churches-believe-men-should-control-women-thats-why-they-breed-domestic-violence-127437
>
> Male authority in God’s plan
> Traditional understandings about male headship, both in the family and
> the Church, were promoted as being ordained by God. This meant the
> authority of men and the subordination of women were considered to be
> “permanently binding” principles.
>
> Conservative evangelical, so-called Christians enthusiastically embraced this as a
> form of resistance against the feminist movement, and still support
> these “permanently binding” principles today.

Just corrected the last sentence! They are so full of hate and seem
to have forgotten the first tenet of Christianity: "Love thy neighbour
as thyself."

On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:08:02 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

>On 2024-03-22 6:41 p.m., Ed P wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the evangelicals want to take over the world and make the rules too.
>>
>> Eliminate divorce, birth control, most rights of women.
>>
>> https://theconversation.com/evangelical-churches-believe-men-should-control-women-thats-why-they-breed-domestic-violence-127437
>>
>> Male authority in God’s plan
>> Traditional understandings about male headship, both in the family and
>> the Church, were promoted as being ordained by God. This meant the
>> authority of men and the subordination of women were considered to be
>> “permanently binding” principles.
>>
>> Conservative evangelical, so-called Christians enthusiastically embraced this as a
>> form of resistance against the feminist movement, and still support
>> these “permanently binding” principles today.
>
>Just corrected the last sentence! They are so full of hate and seem
>to have forgotten the first tenet of Christianity: "Love thy neighbour
>as thyself."

Conservative Christians are the opposite of what Jesus is supposed to
have preached. You once posted a little comic strip thing that said it
perfectly.

On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, Bruce wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 13:39:51 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-22 1:28 p.m., Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-22 2:03 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The movie was quite entertaining but I certainly never thought it was
>>>> "factual". :)
>>>
>>> It is like a number of other movies loosely based on history, though
>>> they take incidents from one event and slip them into something
>>> completely different. It seems to happen a lot with Mel Gibson movies.
>>>
>> A lot of war movies made by the Brits in the 50s and 60s had the odd US
>> actor in them, even when there were NO USians in those actions.
>> They were presumably there to get US funding and distribution.
>
> How about having Napoleon played by an American, in an English-biased
> version of history?
>

In the name of diversity and woke-ism it is obvious that Napoleon should
be played by an ethnic chinese with a translator in the movie! All else
would be the blackest (sorry, the most african-american) racism!

On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:08:02 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

>On 2024-03-22 6:41 p.m., Ed P wrote:
>> On 3/22/2024 7:25 PM, GM wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "There's a lot of evangelical conservative Christian voters that have
>>> some challenges with some aspects of his personality, but when they
>>> look at his policies, what he did, juxtaposed to what we have, and
>>> what's proposed by those on the other side, it's a no-brainer," said
>>> Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council evangelical
>>> advocacy group..."
>>> O:-)
>>
>> Yes, the evangelicals want to take over the world and make the rules too.
>>
>> Eliminate divorce, birth control, most rights of women.
>>
>> https://theconversation.com/evangelical-churches-believe-men-should-control-women-thats-why-they-breed-domestic-violence-127437
>>
>> Male authority in God’s plan
>> Traditional understandings about male headship, both in the family and
>> the Church, were promoted as being ordained by God. This meant the
>> authority of men and the subordination of women were considered to be
>> “permanently binding” principles.
>>
>> Conservative evangelical, so-called Christians enthusiastically embraced this as a
>> form of resistance against the feminist movement, and still support
>> these “permanently binding” principles today.
>
>Just corrected the last sentence! They are so full of hate and seem
>to have forgotten the first tenet of Christianity: "Love thy neighbour
>as thyself."

Small wonder that religion, of any type, causes most of the worlds
problems.

On 2024-03-23, lucretia@florence.it <lucretia@florence.it> wrote:
>
> Small wonder that religion, of any type, causes most of the worlds
> problems.

Not religion, but tribalism. Of course it can be difficult to
distinguish between the two.

--
Cindy Hamilton

On 3/23/2024 7:53 AM, lucretia@florence.it wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:08:02 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-22 6:41 p.m., Ed P wrote:
>>> On 3/22/2024 7:25 PM, GM wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "There's a lot of evangelical conservative Christian voters that have
>>>> some challenges with some aspects of his personality, but when they
>>>> look at his policies, what he did, juxtaposed to what we have, and
>>>> what's proposed by those on the other side, it's a no-brainer," said
>>>> Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council evangelical
>>>> advocacy group..."
>>>> O:-)
>>>
>>> Yes, the evangelicals want to take over the world and make the rules too.
>>>
>>> Eliminate divorce, birth control, most rights of women.
>>>
>>> https://theconversation.com/evangelical-churches-believe-men-should-control-women-thats-why-they-breed-domestic-violence-127437
>>>
>>> Male authority in God’s plan
>>> Traditional understandings about male headship, both in the family and
>>> the Church, were promoted as being ordained by God. This meant the
>>> authority of men and the subordination of women were considered to be
>>> “permanently binding” principles.
>>>
>>> Conservative evangelical, so-called Christians enthusiastically embraced this as a
>>> form of resistance against the feminist movement, and still support
>>> these “permanently binding” principles today.
>>
>> Just corrected the last sentence! They are so full of hate and seem
>> to have forgotten the first tenet of Christianity: "Love thy neighbour
>> as thyself."
>
> Small wonder that religion, of any type, causes most of the worlds
> problems.

It always has. It's all about power and control; those who think they
have the best "god" want to win. :(

Jill

On 3/22/2024 5:50 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> On 2024-03-22, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>> On 3/22/2024 3:28 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>> On 2024-03-22 2:03 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>> On 3/22/2024 8:08 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>>>> On 22/03/2024 09:04, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-03-22, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 23:21:42 -0500, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   "They may take our lives but
>>>>>>>>   they'll never take our freedom."
>>>>>>>>   William Wallace
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wonder how deceased William Wallace is enjoying his freedom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really, that's the worst battle cry ever.  Taking your life removes
>>>>>> all your freedom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In any event, the only kind of freedom enjoyed in the Middle Ages was
>>>>>> the freedom to take your place in the feudal order.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I ran across this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.thedailybeast.com/bravehearts-warped-history-has-been-suckering-evangelicals-for-a-quarter-century
>>>>>>
>>>>> Sharon Krossa, who used to post to a now-dead Scottish newsgroup, had
>>>>> interesting things to say about Gibson's Braveheart -
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://medievalscotland.org/scotbiblio/braveheart.shtml>
>>>>
>>>> The movie was quite entertaining but I certainly never thought it was
>>>> "factual". :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> It is like a number of other movies loosely based on history, though
>>> they take incidents from one event and slip them into something
>>> completely different. It seems to happen a lot with Mel Gibson movies.
>>>
>> Well, I haven't seen a Mel Gibson movie in a long time but he was very
>> nice to look at. :)
>>
>> Coming up soon on various channels, Easter movies. Oh boy, can't wait!
>> (kidding) I do my best to avoid movies like that.
>
> I like Godspell. I don't think it's streaming anywhere I can watch
> it. And my husband would give me crap if he caught me.
>
When I was in high school the drama department did the play Godspell. I
didn't see it but I recall the choice of play caused a bit of a stir.

Jill

lucretia@florence.it wrote:

> On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 19:08:02 -0600, Graham <g.stereo@shaw.ca> wrote:

>>On 2024-03-22 6:41 p.m., Ed P wrote:
>>> On 3/22/2024 7:25 PM, GM wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "There's a lot of evangelical conservative Christian voters that have
>>>> some challenges with some aspects of his personality, but when they
>>>> look at his policies, what he did, juxtaposed to what we have, and
>>>> what's proposed by those on the other side, it's a no-brainer," said
>>>> Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council evangelical
>>>> advocacy group..."
>>>> O:-)
>>>
>>> Yes, the evangelicals want to take over the world and make the rules too.
>>>
>>> Eliminate divorce, birth control, most rights of women.
>>>
>>> https://theconversation.com/evangelical-churches-believe-men-should-control-women-thats-why-they-breed-domestic-violence-127437
>>>
>>> Male authority in God’s plan
>>> Traditional understandings about male headship, both in the family and
>>> the Church, were promoted as being ordained by God. This meant the
>>> authority of men and the subordination of women were considered to be
>>> “permanently binding” principles.
>>>
>>> Conservative evangelical, so-called Christians enthusiastically embraced this as a
>>> form of resistance against the feminist movement, and still support
>>> these “permanently binding” principles today.
>>
>>Just corrected the last sentence! They are so full of hate and seem
>>to have forgotten the first tenet of Christianity: "Love thy neighbour
>>as thyself."

> Small wonder that religion, of any type, causes most of the worlds
> problems.

"communism" and "nazism" which since 1917, have killed about c.165 million souls - and still counting! - are "religions", Lucrezia..???

--
GM

On 2024-03-23, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
> On 3/22/2024 5:50 PM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>> On 2024-03-22, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> On 3/22/2024 3:28 PM, Dave Smith wrote:
>>>> On 2024-03-22 2:03 p.m., jmcquown wrote:
>>>>> On 3/22/2024 8:08 AM, S Viemeister wrote:
>>>>>> On 22/03/2024 09:04, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-03-22, Bruce <Bruce@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2024 23:21:42 -0500, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   "They may take our lives but
>>>>>>>>>   they'll never take our freedom."
>>>>>>>>>   William Wallace
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wonder how deceased William Wallace is enjoying his freedom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really, that's the worst battle cry ever.  Taking your life removes
>>>>>>> all your freedom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In any event, the only kind of freedom enjoyed in the Middle Ages was
>>>>>>> the freedom to take your place in the feudal order.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ran across this:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.thedailybeast.com/bravehearts-warped-history-has-been-suckering-evangelicals-for-a-quarter-century
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sharon Krossa, who used to post to a now-dead Scottish newsgroup, had
>>>>>> interesting things to say about Gibson's Braveheart -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://medievalscotland.org/scotbiblio/braveheart.shtml>
>>>>>
>>>>> The movie was quite entertaining but I certainly never thought it was
>>>>> "factual". :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It is like a number of other movies loosely based on history, though
>>>> they take incidents from one event and slip them into something
>>>> completely different. It seems to happen a lot with Mel Gibson movies.
>>>>
>>> Well, I haven't seen a Mel Gibson movie in a long time but he was very
>>> nice to look at. :)
>>>
>>> Coming up soon on various channels, Easter movies. Oh boy, can't wait!
>>> (kidding) I do my best to avoid movies like that.
>>
>> I like Godspell. I don't think it's streaming anywhere I can watch
>> it. And my husband would give me crap if he caught me.
>>
> When I was in high school the drama department did the play Godspell. I
> didn't see it but I recall the choice of play caused a bit of a stir.

Yeah, Hippie Jesus has never been popular.

--
Cindy Hamilton

Dave Smith wrote:

> On 2024-03-22 5:48 p.m., Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >On 2024-03-22, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > On 3/22/2024 4:55 AM, Cindy Hamilton wrote:
> >>>On 2024-03-21, jmcquown <j_mcquown@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > A nice cod fillet, lightly breaded and pan fried in a scant
> > > > > amount of oil in a non-stick skillet on the stovetop.
> > > > > Steamed asparagus to go with it.
> > > > >
> > > > > What's cooking at your house tonight?
> > > >
> > > > Nothing very interesting, but I made pizza dough for Friday or
> > > > Saturday lunch. It's not rising very well; I might have kept
> > > > the yeast too long. There's a little activity, but nothing
> > > > like I usually get. Time will tell. And waiting until
> > > > Saturday seems more likely.
> > > >
> > > I certainly hope the pizza dough rises to your expectations!
> >
> > It's coming along. I think it will be usable by tomorrow. I still
> > intend to buy new yeast.
> >
>
> There are people here who know a lot more about cooking with yeast
> than I do. I know that yeast loses its oomph with age but my little
> mind is inclined to think that if yeast is not up to par it may not
> all bloom into action there can still be some spirited bits who will
> activate and start reproducing. Give it enough time and the survivors
> will be doing the work of thousands.

Storage has a lot to do with it as well. I use only 'instant dry' or
'active dry'. aka, no proofing types. Keep the use jar in the fridge
(I refill a decades old fleishmanns jar) and the bag or bags in the
freezer. Lasts in freezer up to 2 years past expiration date but yes,
has an end of life.