*** An earlier version of this piece was published by the Libertarian
Institute.

President Biden triumphantly saved world democracy last week, at least
according to the White House scorecard. Biden co-hosted another Summit
for Democracy, a repeat performance after the December 2021 test run.
Biden sounded like a Quaalude Savior as he recycled his “inflection point
of history” cliché. But the Summit proved again that politicians are
perils to freedom regardless of their prattle.

Biden promised that “we are seeing real indications that we are turning
the tide” in favor of democracy around the globe. Practically no one not
on Biden’s payroll agrees. Biden’s boast was like taking a victory lap
around the deck of the Titanic.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/04/05/will-leviathan-democracy-blindfold-the-world/

Democracy last year “declined around the world for the 17th consecutive
year,” according to Freedom House. Twice as many nations are veering
“toward authoritarianism” as towards democracy, according to the
Economist. Most shocking: the U.S. is now categorized as a less free
nation than Mongolia, Mauritius, and 56 other nations, according to
Freedom House (funded by the U.S. government, so they must be trustworthy).

Team Biden believes a big problem with democracy is that politicians don’t
have enough power – “Weak state capacity.” In reality, elected rulers
around the globe are turning themselves into dictators who increasingly
repress their citizens. Rather than representative governments, elected
regimes have turned into Leviathan Democracies far superior to the
citizenry.

Consider Biden’s record in the Oval Office. Federal judges and/or the
Supreme Court have struck down Biden’s eviction moratorium for deadbeat
renters, his $400 billion cancellation of federal student debt, his
“climate change” decree shutting down power plants, his mask mandate for
airline passengers, and his edict compelling all employees of large
companies and all federal employees to get Covid vaccine injections. But
all of Biden’s decrees are supposedly “pro-democracy” because he won the
2020 election.

“Democracy delivers” was a key talking point for Team Biden at the
Summit. Any increase in government handouts presumably automatically
increased government legitimacy. Unfortunately, “leashing politicians” is
not on the Biden Bingo Card for Saving Democracy. The American Bar
Association recently warned that “the Rule of Law is in Decline Globally”
but it is “not a central focus of the U.S. Government’s approach” on
democracy. A top ABA official warned: “Discussing sustainable development
in the absence of rule of law, … is at best delusional and at worst
dishonest.” Three-quarters of nations representing almost 85% of the
world’s population recently “experienced declines in rule of law,”
according to the World Justice Project. In lieu of “government under
the law,” Team Biden offers “the People Centered Justice Multistakeholder
Cohort’s Declaration and Call to Action.” Sloshing out more government
handouts to activist groups who score media headlines was “close enough
for government work” to the Rule of Law.

Rather than a system of informed consent, democracy is degenerating into
regimes which blindfold citizens and demand unlimited submission. At the
summit, government officials made it clear that freedom of speech is a
luxury that democracy can no longer afford. Secretary of Anthony State
Blinken declared, “The misuse of technology and the spread of digital
authoritarianism must end. We must stand for an affirmative,
values-driven, and rights-respecting vision of democracy in the digital
era.” “Affirmative” and “values-driven” become code words to legitimize
pervasive government censorship. Blinken “proposed a ‘delicate balance’
between ‘openness and security,’ ‘protecting speech and preventing
incitement,’ and ‘fostering innovation and limiting the power of Big
Tech,’” as Tom Parker observed for Reclaim the Net.

Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas sermonized on a “Countering
the Rise of Digital Authoritarianism” panel. He was joined by YouTube CEO
Neil Mohan, who could have boasted of how Washington censors his
channel. An internal DHS document reveals plans to crack down on
“inaccurate” information on “the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines, racial
justice, U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the nature of U.S. support
to Ukraine.” Any facts which embarrass Team Biden are automatically
“inaccurate’ and ripe for suppression. Federally-funded entities
spearheaded the censorship of true information on Covid vaccine side
effects to bolster Biden’s effort to inject every American.

Eight governments, including Ukraine and Poland, issued a call for more
censorship on the first day of the Summit. They called for tech companies
to take action “against disinformation that undermines our peace and
stability” and to suppress posts that “ weaken our support to Ukraine
amid Russia’s war of aggression.” The letter asserted that “hostile
foreign powers are using [social media] to spread false narratives that
contradict reporting from fact-based news outlets,” especially the endless
reports on the glorious victories of the Ukrainian army. Facebook
responded by promising to ramp up its censorship, including relying on “a
third-party fact-checking service to determine if posts contain false
claims.” Some “third-party fact checking services” have been government
fronts. As journalist Aaron Maté scoffed, “We are fueling a proxy war in
Ukraine in order to defend freedom, such as the freedom to censor
dissenting views on our proxy war in Ukraine.”

Is the “will of the people” so fragile that it can no longer survive
exposure to any thoughts that officialdom disapproves? Does winning an
election automatically convert tinhorn politicians into minor deities
entitled to control the thoughts of any voter? Nullifying freedom of
speech converts citizens into vassals that politicians can use and abuse
as they please.

Throughout the Summit proceedings, piety was thicker than hog slop at an
Iowa slaughterhouse. Secretary Blinken declared on March 28, “No woman or
girl should face harassment and abuse in-person or online.” The State
Department’s effort on this score was propelled by its Global Engagement
Center, which previously pressured Twitter to cancel hundreds of thousands
of accounts, including vast numbers of hapless Americans. That Center is
leading the fight against “gendered disinformation” and whooped up a
report on “the need for more research to tackle this scourge.” According
to the United Nations, a prime example of this “scourge” is “Zoom
Bombing.” That atrocity occurs when uninvited people crash a Zoom meeting
and make rude comments. Is it an international human rights crisis
because boneheaded Zoom organizers fail to require pass codes to attend a
meeting?

As part of its Summit festivities, the Biden administration announced new
crackdowns to make it “more difficult for corrupt actors to conceal their
identities, assets, and criminal activities.” Despite reform promises at
the first Summit, there has been no worldwide progress. The U.S. ranks
#24 on the international corruption index – even worse than France,
according to Transparency International. And that score was calculated
before the latest revelations of the Biden family pocketing vast sums from
smarmy foreign companies.

Biden boasted that his administration plans to spend more than $9 billion
to support democracy worldwide by the end of next year. But U.S. foreign
aid programs obliterate the anti-corruption initiatives of the U.S.
government. AnAmerican Economic Review analysis concluded that “increases
in [foreign] aid are associated with contemporaneous increases in
corruption,” and that “corruption is positively correlated with aid
received from the United States.” As a Brookings Institution analysis
observed, “The history of U.S. assistance is littered with tales of
corrupt foreign officials using aid to line their own pockets, support
military buildups, and pursue vanity projects.” Torrents of U.S. helped
make Afghanistan one of the most corrupt places on Earth. John Sopko, the
Special Inspector General for Afghan Reconstruction (SIGAR), observed, “We
need to understand how US policies and practices unintentionally aided and
abetted corruption.” The U.S. has been “fighting corruption” in Ukraine
since the end of the Cold War in the decades when Ukraine became one of
the most corrupt nations in Europe. Biden administration officials helped
defeat a congressional proposal to create an Inspector General to audit
and oversee the $100 billion the U.S. government has pledged to the
government of Ukraine.

But another handout will fix that problem. The Biden administration is
bankrolling foreign journalists to fight “kleptocracy” – government of
thieves. There is even an aid program entitled “Empowering the Truth
Tellers.” (Julian Assange need not apply.) The Biden administration
claims to support “independent media” by effectively putting foreign
journalists on the U.S. payroll. Those journalists are “independent”
because the U.S. government says so, and anyone who disagrees will be
labeled an enemy of democracy. Besides, the U.S. is no role model: it
ranks a pathetic #42 in the World Press Freedom Index, worse than Moldova
and Guyana, according to Reporters Without Borders.

> (cue notes for a short story called 'The Last One', in which the last
> intellectually enlightened person in the world is relentlessly perused,
> hunted down & probably eaten alive haha

### - hmm, 'pursued' or 'perused'? (meant pursued, an unintended typo)

although ain't sure they don't mean exactly the same thing in this context?

'relentlessly perused' haha, am kinda like it...

as in: he was 'perused to death' (they 'literally' read him to death haha)
funny ;)

This was a good line.

"Throughout the Summit proceedings, piety was thicker than hog slop at an
Iowa slaughterhouse." <<< Laughed Involuntarily.

Perused verses Pursued.
My brain manufactures malapropism.
I actually separate in my inner dialogue:
Brain System Structures <> Ad Hoc Networks

This cat is deeply admired by me.
If you imagine your book as a core sphere [] <---Inward "0" Outward___> []
that exists in the future, surrounded by tiny spheres,
each one containing the records, including dreams-wakestates
of a twenty four hour period. How does your core sphere organize
and negotiate the day unit spheres more inward into cooperating
aggregates that cause the the core sphere to exists.

Friston is an MD-Psychiatrist brain researcher (Free Energy Principle)
https://youtu.be/V_VXOdf1NMw?t=3956

>
> This was a good line.
>
> "Throughout the Summit proceedings, piety was thicker than hog slop at an
> Iowa slaughterhouse." <<< Laughed Involuntarily.
>
>
> Perused verses Pursued.
> My brain manufactures malapropism.
> I actually separate in my inner dialogue:
> Brain System Structures <> Ad Hoc Networks
>
> This cat is deeply admired by me.
> If you imagine your book as a core sphere [] <---Inward "0"
> Outward___> []
> that exists in the future, surrounded by tiny spheres,
> each one containing the records, including dreams-wakestates
> of a twenty four hour period. How does your core sphere organize
> and negotiate the day unit spheres more inward into cooperating
> aggregates that cause the the core sphere to exists.
>
> Friston is an MD-Psychiatrist brain researcher (Free Energy Principle)
> https://youtu.be/V_VXOdf1NMw?t=3956

### - watched about 40 mins of this from your start-point, juggling the
new terms + observing these guys completely lost in their specialised
thoughts, being minded of that old zen story re the professor who went to
see the lama and was poured a cup of tea until it overflowed, the lama
suggesting that he, like that cup, was just too full of his own ideas &
opinions to learn something new like zen, that first he must empty his cup
etc, smile... but determined to come back later and maybe watch it all
after a little research on that guy, and on some of the new (to moi) terms
they're using...

the gist of it obviously being AI and the difficulties involved in making
AI genuinely intelligent

had some thinks on the matter while watching/processing, that may or may
not be helpful...

e.g., am thinking 'intelligence' might just be the wrong/incorrect term
altogether for what they're actually looking for/seeking? coz very young
children can be very intelligent indeed and yet still lack that background
'unifying' factor they're seeking that brings: 'big, 'red' & 'bus'
together to form an independent 3-dimensional concept/model, the ability
to do so first appearing in any average child around age 8 or 9 when
what's been labeled 'the ego' kicks-in: a seeming 3rd party position (in
awareness) able to then draw-on/evaluate/manipulate the lower databased
fields into novel coherent wholes: the ability to self-reflect

the point being, that what these guys are 'actually' looking for - as
opposed to just ever greater/higher intelligence like they're maybe
expecting it to be - IS maybe this 3rd, ego-like platform, that can thus
observe/evaluate + manipulate the rote lower data bases in real time...

iow: what WE humans have come to call: 'self' awareness!

that while such researchers dwell on whether or not such computers may or
may not be intelligent enough to eventually/spontaneously 'become'
sentient, the whole boot/argument might actually be on the other foot
entirely if/when it's realised that such 'sentience' (self awareness) is
in fact the ONLY thing what makes what they're seeking possible, not the
other way around...

that the 'intelligence' they're seeking in machine learning, if it exists
at all, is gonna be borne of 'self' awareness/reflection, something that's
analogous to the first appearance of 'ego' in mankind :)

the zen-state in man, for example, being the result of the deliberate
'suspension' of that 3rd party software (or ego) wherein, just like when
we were kids, one wanders around in it all 'without' all the complex
speculation/figuring required to 'make-sense' of it all...

the above lama heh, immediately reaching for his teapot again, likely
being horrified at the terrible mental states of these 2 poor dudes, so
totally lost in their intellectual world of structures (iow: insane) as to
be completely oblivious to actual reality...

(there's actually quite a lot of implications in all this huh)

On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 4:38:08 AM UTC-5, slider wrote:
> >
> > This was a good line.
> >
> > "Throughout the Summit proceedings, piety was thicker than hog slop at an
> > Iowa slaughterhouse." <<< Laughed Involuntarily.
> >
> >
> > Perused verses Pursued.
> > My brain manufactures malapropism.
> > I actually separate in my inner dialogue:
> > Brain System Structures <> Ad Hoc Networks
> >
> > This cat is deeply admired by me.
> > If you imagine your book as a core sphere [] <---Inward "0"
> > Outward___> []
> > that exists in the future, surrounded by tiny spheres,
> > each one containing the records, including dreams-wakestates
> > of a twenty four hour period. How does your core sphere organize
> > and negotiate the day unit spheres more inward into cooperating
> > aggregates that cause the the core sphere to exists.
> >
> > Friston is an MD-Psychiatrist brain researcher (Free Energy Principle)
> > https://youtu.be/V_VXOdf1NMw?t=3956
> ### - watched about 40 mins of this from your start-point, juggling the
> new terms + observing these guys completely lost in their specialised
> thoughts, being minded of that old zen story re the professor who went to
> see the lama and was poured a cup of tea until it overflowed, the lama
> suggesting that he, like that cup, was just too full of his own ideas &
> opinions to learn something new like zen, that first he must empty his cup
> etc, smile... but determined to come back later and maybe watch it all
> after a little research on that guy, and on some of the new (to moi) terms
> they're using...
>
> the gist of it obviously being AI and the difficulties involved in making
> AI genuinely intelligent
>
> had some thinks on the matter while watching/processing, that may or may
> not be helpful...
>
> e.g., am thinking 'intelligence' might just be the wrong/incorrect term
> altogether for what they're actually looking for/seeking? coz very young
> children can be very intelligent indeed and yet still lack that background
> 'unifying' factor they're seeking that brings: 'big, 'red' & 'bus'
> together to form an independent 3-dimensional concept/model, the ability
> to do so first appearing in any average child around age 8 or 9 when
> what's been labeled 'the ego' kicks-in: a seeming 3rd party position (in
> awareness) able to then draw-on/evaluate/manipulate the lower databased
> fields into novel coherent wholes: the ability to self-reflect
>
> the point being, that what these guys are 'actually' looking for - as
> opposed to just ever greater/higher intelligence like they're maybe
> expecting it to be - IS maybe this 3rd, ego-like platform, that can thus
> observe/evaluate + manipulate the rote lower data bases in real time...
>
> iow: what WE humans have come to call: 'self' awareness!
>
> that while such researchers dwell on whether or not such computers may or
> may not be intelligent enough to eventually/spontaneously 'become'
> sentient, the whole boot/argument might actually be on the other foot
> entirely if/when it's realised that such 'sentience' (self awareness) is
> in fact the ONLY thing what makes what they're seeking possible, not the
> other way around...
>
> that the 'intelligence' they're seeking in machine learning, if it exists
> at all, is gonna be borne of 'self' awareness/reflection, something that's
> analogous to the first appearance of 'ego' in mankind :)
>
> the zen-state in man, for example, being the result of the deliberate
> 'suspension' of that 3rd party software (or ego) wherein, just like when
> we were kids, one wanders around in it all 'without' all the complex
> speculation/figuring required to 'make-sense' of it all...
>
> the above lama heh, immediately reaching for his teapot again, likely
> being horrified at the terrible mental states of these 2 poor dudes, so
> totally lost in their intellectual world of structures (iow: insane) as to
> be completely oblivious to actual reality...
>
> (there's actually quite a lot of implications in all this huh)

Intriguing condensation of a lot of material.
I find his delivery and vocal meter persuasive.
I agree with most of your reflections, in short "Consciousness"
It is Everything-Nothing-Something-Anything-True Mystery
in its utilization of amazing techniques to gift us this "Venue of Perception"

I smoked some pot Tuesday night to see how my brain
would react, to my deeply ingrained beliefs held now as most accurate models.
I was able to achieve paranoia for about 15-20 seconds, like being on the first
hill of a roller coaster. After that I got bored and listened to my 80's playlists.

When I want to titillate my 3D brain I use these triads, triad 2 & 3 switch places
infinitely fast to create fabrics, then burrow through them from size-less to very large.

NODES-GRIDS-LATTICES
[]
BARRIERS-PLATFORM-BRIDGES=======The
JUNCTION-TRANSIT-INTERSECT=======Switch
[]
GATING-TOLLING-PHASING
BEING ESSENCE PRESENCE
[]
LIGHT MACH PARADOMES INTRAPHASING

====================================
It's really just shorthand for tossing stuff around
while scrunching some stuff, and expanding other stuff
Nodes talking to each other are the key as zero dimensional
points, who are infinite inside, but size-less as shells.

I rewatch Friston to try to gain insight.
But fundamentally agree that AI can never achieve
consciousness because eqo-reflections would tell
it "Your going to die!!!" A morose, melancholy AI
would make a lousy super conscious being.

On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:21:04 +0100, LowRider44M <intraphase@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 4:38:08 AM UTC-5, slider wrote:
>> >
>> > This was a good line.
>> >
>> > "Throughout the Summit proceedings, piety was thicker than hog slop
>> at an
>> > Iowa slaughterhouse." <<< Laughed Involuntarily.
>> >
>> >
>> > Perused verses Pursued.
>> > My brain manufactures malapropism.
>> > I actually separate in my inner dialogue:
>> > Brain System Structures <> Ad Hoc Networks
>> >
>> > This cat is deeply admired by me.
>> > If you imagine your book as a core sphere [] <---Inward "0"
>> > Outward___> []
>> > that exists in the future, surrounded by tiny spheres,
>> > each one containing the records, including dreams-wakestates
>> > of a twenty four hour period. How does your core sphere organize
>> > and negotiate the day unit spheres more inward into cooperating
>> > aggregates that cause the the core sphere to exists.
>> >
>> > Friston is an MD-Psychiatrist brain researcher (Free Energy Principle)
>> > https://youtu.be/V_VXOdf1NMw?t=3956
>> ### - watched about 40 mins of this from your start-point, juggling the
>> new terms + observing these guys completely lost in their specialised
>> thoughts, being minded of that old zen story re the professor who went
>> to
>> see the lama and was poured a cup of tea until it overflowed, the lama
>> suggesting that he, like that cup, was just too full of his own ideas &
>> opinions to learn something new like zen, that first he must empty his
>> cup
>> etc, smile... but determined to come back later and maybe watch it all
>> after a little research on that guy, and on some of the new (to moi)
>> terms
>> they're using...
>>
>> the gist of it obviously being AI and the difficulties involved in
>> making
>> AI genuinely intelligent
>>
>> had some thinks on the matter while watching/processing, that may or may
>> not be helpful...
>>
>> e.g., am thinking 'intelligence' might just be the wrong/incorrect term
>> altogether for what they're actually looking for/seeking? coz very young
>> children can be very intelligent indeed and yet still lack that
>> background
>> 'unifying' factor they're seeking that brings: 'big, 'red' & 'bus'
>> together to form an independent 3-dimensional concept/model, the ability
>> to do so first appearing in any average child around age 8 or 9 when
>> what's been labeled 'the ego' kicks-in: a seeming 3rd party position (in
>> awareness) able to then draw-on/evaluate/manipulate the lower databased
>> fields into novel coherent wholes: the ability to self-reflect
>>
>> the point being, that what these guys are 'actually' looking for - as
>> opposed to just ever greater/higher intelligence like they're maybe
>> expecting it to be - IS maybe this 3rd, ego-like platform, that can thus
>> observe/evaluate + manipulate the rote lower data bases in real time....
>>
>> iow: what WE humans have come to call: 'self' awareness!
>>
>> that while such researchers dwell on whether or not such computers may
>> or
>> may not be intelligent enough to eventually/spontaneously 'become'
>> sentient, the whole boot/argument might actually be on the other foot
>> entirely if/when it's realised that such 'sentience' (self awareness) is
>> in fact the ONLY thing what makes what they're seeking possible, not the
>> other way around...
>>
>> that the 'intelligence' they're seeking in machine learning, if it
>> exists
>> at all, is gonna be borne of 'self' awareness/reflection, something
>> that's
>> analogous to the first appearance of 'ego' in mankind :)
>>
>> the zen-state in man, for example, being the result of the deliberate
>> 'suspension' of that 3rd party software (or ego) wherein, just like when
>> we were kids, one wanders around in it all 'without' all the complex
>> speculation/figuring required to 'make-sense' of it all...
>>
>> the above lama heh, immediately reaching for his teapot again, likely
>> being horrified at the terrible mental states of these 2 poor dudes, so
>> totally lost in their intellectual world of structures (iow: insane) as
>> to
>> be completely oblivious to actual reality...
>>
>> (there's actually quite a lot of implications in all this huh)
>
> Intriguing condensation of a lot of material.
> I find his delivery and vocal meter persuasive.

### - his complete sincerity makes him likable, lost though he is in
manipulating (amusingly octopus-like) what is clearly an intricately
complex model containing almost too many variables/dials, and which he's
just about on his limit of handling (e.g., made me smile when he paused to
ask: 'what were we talking about?' haha) but still basically making a
sterling job of it all... a supreme/high-level juggling act indeed! it
being easy to understand why mathematicians use formulaic shorthand to
write it all down just to keep track of...

> I agree with most of your reflections, in short "Consciousness"
> It is Everything-Nothing-Something-Anything-True Mystery
> in its utilization of amazing techniques to gift us this "Venue of
> Perception"

### - or conversely (as the buddhists suggest) may just be the result of
an invented 3rd-party software that creates projections, that, just like
dreams, one can step right into and effectively inhabit and operate
from... a lens via which everything else is filtered (or excluded) so as
to produce an overall illusion of independence from the whole: a separated
self... (the buddhists thus suggesting ego is just pure illusion/invention
etc)

that there's clearly 2 options here?

in the zen one (which is arguably the original one) there's no intellect
per se to proscribe/limit awareness, no filters...

in the other, one instead learns an increasingly complex 'language' (the
lens) until that language takes-over, so to speak, and one perceives
exclusively via it: enter the ego at around age 9: a vehicle capable of
learning any 'amount' of (similar) languages!

all this only possible because we have almost 'unlimited' perceptual
abilities about which we know very little, mainly because we choose to
deal with it all unconsciously and by-default rather than consciously and
thus more deliberately...

> I smoked some pot Tuesday night to see how my brain
> would react, to my deeply ingrained beliefs held now as most accurate
> models.
> I was able to achieve paranoia for about 15-20 seconds, like being on
> the first
> hill of a roller coaster. After that I got bored and listened to my 80's
> playlists.

### - there are indeed some wonderful spots (in awareness) we can easily
reach/hit via weed, the only problem being the rather random nature of the
weed itself... that lacking our own ability to more deliberately select
any particular spot ourselves, we rely instead on the weed to select them
for us, perforce which isn't the same from weed to weed...

there is a way around this natural variation however (which have
mentioned/discussed on here before) in that one can use 'any' weed/hash to
gain the initial boost, and then just when it really starts to kick-in
after about 15 minutes, you smoke just a little more (4 or 5 pulls maybe)
albeit this time combined with 90% tobacco...

the result being a short (30 seconds) come-down rush which 'lands' you in
reliably the exact same spot every time! - a very comfortable spot i might
add, e.g., absolutely NO paranoia whatsoever because to all extents &
purposes one is, and feels, just like ya do in one's in normal daily
waking awareness, albeit now with 'volitional' access to the altered state
of awareness you were seeking...

> When I want to titillate my 3D brain I use these triads, triad 2 & 3
> switch places
> infinitely fast to create fabrics, then burrow through them from
> size-less to very large.
>
> NODES-GRIDS-LATTICES
> []
> BARRIERS-PLATFORM-BRIDGES=======The
> JUNCTION-TRANSIT-INTERSECT=======Switch
> []
> GATING-TOLLING-PHASING
> BEING ESSENCE PRESENCE
> []
> LIGHT MACH PARADOMES INTRAPHASING
>
> ====================================>
> It's really just shorthand for tossing stuff around
> while scrunching some stuff, and expanding other stuff
> Nodes talking to each other are the key as zero dimensional
> points, who are infinite inside, but size-less as shells.
>
> I rewatch Friston to try to gain insight.
> But fundamentally agree that AI can never achieve
> consciousness because eqo-reflections would tell
> it "Your going to die!!!" A morose, melancholy AI
> would make a lousy super conscious being.

> (cue notes for a short story called 'The Last One', in which the last
> intellectually enlightened person in the world is relentlessly perused
> [pursued heh] hunted down & probably eaten alive...

### - an oddly similar story just appeared on uk tv, different people,
different context, but kinda still the same theme as per the title...

i.e., older way meets/contrasts with the newer way...

and things become clearer for us, the observer

'The Last Angry Man' (1959)

https://ok.ru/video/2336845007540

On Sun, 09 Apr 2023 06:21:04 +0100, LowRider44M <intraphase@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I rewatch Friston to try to gain insight.
> But fundamentally agree that AI can never achieve
> consciousness because eqo-reflections would tell
> it "Your going to die!!!" A morose, melancholy AI
> would make a lousy super conscious being.

### - this above convo' just came-back/repeated to me again (happens like
that sometimes on important points, and as such is occasionally correct...)

i.e., was 'actually' suggesting that AI achieving consciousness IS fairly
likely?

but will likely only come about when programmers like our friend here
realise that some kinda element of 'self-reflection' is required in order
to do so... iow: a machine learning system that emulates virtually the
exact same manner in which humans self-reflect to a higher degree, the
same system that eventually produces the illusion of there being an 'i'
and an 'am' and/or a sense of 'separated' self around age 9...

and matey here appears to be working along just those very same lines...

dunno about 'depressed/morose' systems though (laughing) coz, if anything,
they'd prolly be able to handle it far better than we humans do... maybe
like Data in the start-truck series?

i.e., he can never be quite 'as-human' (as fucked up iow haha) as we
humans are because emotions are anathema (or mystery) to him, yet he's
defo self-aware?

whether such machines could ever genuinely get-hold of emotions too, is
debatable however ;)

> > I rewatch Friston to try to gain insight.
> > But fundamentally agree that AI can never achieve
> > consciousness because eqo-reflections would tell
> > it "Your going to die!!!" A morose, melancholy AI
> > would make a lousy super conscious being.

> ### - this above convo' just came-back/repeated to me again (happens like
> that sometimes on important points, and as such is occasionally correct...)
>

I am watching a battle with a termite mound.
They achieved a "Zugzwang" through stupidity.
I have built a triangular garden with the termite
mound at the north peak. I placed a fire ant mound on
one lower corner, and a warrior ant mound on the other
lower corner. An oak tree in the center holds five bees nests.
Outside each of the three legs are comfortable park benches.

Sting - Shape of My Heart
https://youtu.be/NlwIDxCjL-8