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by: Arwen Li - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 13:46 UTC

On Saturday, 13 October 2001 at 04:40:01 UTC+1, Rabo Karabekian wrote:
> Hi
> I have heard that the Australian term "bonzer" (or "bonza" - an
> adjective meaning 'good') derived from a Cantonese expression "bong
> sar" (or something similar) meaning "good gold".
> The justification as I heard it:
> "The word entered the Australian vernacular during the 1856 Gold Rush.
> A subtantial number of Chinese (from Canton, specifically) came to
> Australia in search of gold and acquired a reputation for being good
> at finding it. English speaking people quickly learned to listen for
> the chinese exclaiming "bong sar" as it meant a good discovery."
> OK - it's certainly a damn plausible story and corresponds
> historically (there were a substantial number of Cantonese
> gold-diggers in the fields.)
> But apart from that - is there any reason to believe that there is a
> word of truth to any of it? (Or does anyone speak Cantonese? we could
> at least verify or reject the "good gold" translation?)
> Rabo
> ***
> "I'm writing an encyclopedia. Why not join me?"
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Mate 'bong sar' means nothing in Cantonese or Mandarin I'm sorry. This is fake news

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by: Anton Shepelev - Fri, 29 Sep 2023 14:46 UTC

Arwen Li:

> Mate 'bong sar' means nothing in Cantonese or Mandarin I'm
> sorry.

Greetings to Chinese experts. Let us try another one, the
Russian word байховый (baikhovij) cerruntly denoting any tea
of high quality. The other day, in my town's only tea shop,
I tasted and bought some delicious Baihao Yinzhen, and it
occurred to me -- that's whence the Russian word comes,
albeit with a distorted meaning.

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Subject	Author
Etymology of australian term "bonzer" ("bonza")	Arwen Li
Etymology of australian term "bonzer" ("bonza")	Anton Shepelev