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by: arthurvv vart - Tue, 28 Nov 2023 08:31 UTC

1) It was a surprising defeat for all of us.

Were all of us surprisingly defeated?
Or were all of us surprised because of someone's defeat?

Gratefully,
Navi

Lost in the Twilight Zone of the English language
Interested in strange structures
Obsessed with ambiguity

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by: Anton Shepelev - Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:12 UTC

Navi:

> 1) It was a surprising defeat for all of us.
>
> Were all of us surprisingly defeated?
> Or were all of us surprised because of someone's defeat?

I should say the defeat surprised them, or came unexpected.

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by: HenHanna - Tue, 5 Mar 2024 08:10 UTC

On 11/28/2023 12:31 AM, arthurvv vart wrote:
> 1) It was a surprising defeat for all of us.
>
> Were all of us surprisingly defeated?
> Or were all of us surprised because of someone's defeat?
>
> Gratefully,
> Navi
>
> Lost in the Twilight Zone of the English language
> Interested in strange structures
> Obsessed with ambiguity

both are possible.

_______________________________

Many of Armour's poems have been repeatedly and incorrectly attributed
to Nash. Probably Armour's most-quoted poem (often incorrectly
attributed to Nash) is the quatrain:

"Shake and shake / the catsup bottle /
none will come / and then a lot'll."

Another popular quatrain of his, also usually attributed erroneously to
Nash, is: "Nothing attracts / the mustard from wieners / as much as the
slacks / just back from the cleaners."

When the going gets tough, everyone leaves. -- Lynch

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defeat	arthurvv vart
defeat	Anton Shepelev
Re: defeat	HenHanna