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* anyone/someonearthurvv vart
`* anyone/someoneAnton Shepelev
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1) Just talk to someone who is dating someone and you'll see t
hey will say what I told you.
2) Just talk to someone who is dating anyone and you'll see they
will say what I told you.

3) Just talk to anyone who is dating someone and you'll see they
will say what I told you.
4) Just talk to anyone who is dating anyone and you'll see they
will say what I told you.

Are they all grammatical?
Do they all mean the same?

Gratefully,
Navi

Lost in the Twilight Zone of the English language
Interested in strange structures
Obsessed with ambiguity

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 by: Anton Shepelev - Mon, 4 Dec 2023 10:31 UTC

arthurvv vart asks about:

Just talk to someone/anyone who is dating someone/anyone
and you'll see they will say what I told you.

> Are they all grammatical?
> Do they all mean the same?

I think all the four combinations are grammatical and/but
have different meanings. /anyone/ emphasises the generality
of the prediction, whereas with /someone/ it simply asks you
to pick a person and perform the experiment on them. The
effect of /someone/ vs. /anyone/ in the second position is
the same.

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 by: Anton Shepelev - Tue, 5 Dec 2023 11:32 UTC

I wrote:

> arthurvv vart asks about:
>
> Just talk to someone/anyone who is dating someone/anyone
> and you'll see they will say what I told you.
>
> > Are they all grammatical?
> > Do they all mean the same?
>
> I think all the four combinations are grammatical and/but
> have different meanings. /anyone/ emphasises the
> generality of the prediction, whereas with /someone/ it
> simply asks you to pick a person and perform the
> experiment on them. The effect of /someone/ vs. /anyone/
> in the second position is the same.

To enlarge: a request to talk to anyone dating someone
almost ecourages an a more exhaustive approach, that is
asking several people, and the more the better. A request
to talk to somewone dating anyone puts emphasis on the
generality of a previous statement, and particulary on its
independence on the character of the parnter. They may have
been discussing dating a person much older or much younger,
or a person out of one's "league" or way below it.

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