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* RQFTCINO13 Game 3, Rounds 4,6: famous deaths, NHL historyMark Brader
+- RQFTCINO13 Game 3, Rounds 4,6: famous deaths, NHL historyJoshua Kreitzer
+- RQFTCINO13 Game 3, Rounds 4,6: famous deaths, NHL historyDan Tilque
+- RQFTCINO13 Game 3, Rounds 4,6: famous deaths, NHL historyDan Blum
+- RQFTCINO13 Game 3, Rounds 4,6: famous deaths, NHL historyErland Sommarskog
`* RQFTCINO13 Game 3, Rounds 4,6 answers: famous deaths, NHL historyMark Brader
 `* RQFTCINO13 Game 3, Rounds 4,6 answers: famous deaths, NHL historyJoshua Kreitzer
  `- RQFTCINO13 Game 3, Rounds 4,6 answers: famous deaths, NHL historyMark Brader

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 by: Mark Brader - Sun, 9 Oct 2022 04:50 UTC

These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2013-02-11,
and should be interpreted accordingly. All questions were written
by members of the Night Owls, but have been reformatted and may
have been retyped and/or edited by me. I will reveal the correct
answers in about 3 days.

For further information, including an explanation of the """
notation that may appear in these rounds, see my 2022-09-09
companion posting on "Reposted Questions from the Canadian
Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".

* Game 3, Round 4 - History - Who Died?

We give you the date and place of death; you name the famous person
who died. Note: all place names are the """present-day""" ones.

1. 1984-10-31, New Delhi, India.
2. 2009-06-25, Los Angeles, CA.
3. 1950-07-22, Kingsmere, QC.
4. 0337-05-22, Izmit, Turkey.
5. 1997-08-31, Paris, France.
6. 1826-07-04, Quincy, MA.
7. 1894-12-03, Vailima, Samoa.
8. 1963-11-24, Dallas, TX.
9. 1521-04-27, Cebu, Philippines.
10. 2000-05-27, Montreal, QC.

This round included two extra questions. Answer if you like for
fun, but for no points.

11. 1865-04-15, Washington, DC.
12. 1821-05-05, St. Helena.

* Game 3, Round 6 - Sports - NHL History

1. In what year was the NHL founded?

2. The NHL was founded as a legal maneuver to squeeze out an
unpopular franchise owner while the precursor of the NHL was
temporarily suspended. What was this predecessor league,
which had a similar name and was founded 8 years earlier?
(The abbreviation will do.)

3. The Montreal Wanderers were one of four teams that started the
NHL's inaugural season, but they withdrew from the league early
in the season. What was the precipitating reason?

4. In what year did the size of the NHL double from 6 to 12 teams?

5. 7 years after the league was founded, what US city became the
first with an NHL team?

6. Who was the first president of the NHL? He held the position
for just over 25 years, and a trophy is named after him.

7. Initially the NHL had a president; later the league was headed
by a commissioner. Who was the first person to become
commissioner of the NHL?

For the last three questions, please decode the rot13
*ONE QUESTION AT A TIME*, after you have finished with
all previous questions in each case.

8. Orgjrra 1926 naq 1932, gur Qrgebvg senapuvfr unq gjb bgure anzrf
orsber frggyvat qbja nf gur Erq Jvatf. Obgu anzrf unccra gb or
gur cyhenyf bs zbqryf bs pne yngre znqr ol Sbeq. Tvir rvgure
anzr.

9. Ba Znepu 13, 1955, n ubpxrl cynlre uvg n yvarfzna qhevat n tnzr.
Va erfcbafr, AUY cerfvqrag Pynerapr Pnzcoryy fhfcraqrq uvz
sbe gur erfg bs gur frnfba. Jura Pnzcoryy nggraqrq na AUY
tnzr 4 qnlf yngre, n evbg oebxr bhg. Jub jnf gur cynlre jub
jnf fhfcraqrq?

10. Snzbhfyl, Znhevpr Evpuneq orpnzr gur svefg cynlre gb fpber
svsgl tbnyf va gur gura 50-tnzr AUY frnfba. Jub jnf gur arkg
cynlre gb fpber svsgl tbnyf va gur *svefg* 50 tnzrf bs n frnfba?

--
Mark Brader, Toronto | "No flames were used in the creation of
msb@vex.net | this message." -- Ray Depew

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 by: Joshua Kreitzer - Sun, 9 Oct 2022 05:15 UTC

On Saturday, October 8, 2022 at 11:50:23 PM UTC-5, Mark Brader wrote:

> * Game 3, Round 4 - History - Who Died?
>
> We give you the date and place of death; you name the famous person
> who died. Note: all place names are the """present-day""" ones.
>
> 1. 1984-10-31, New Delhi, India.

Indira Gandhi

> 2. 2009-06-25, Los Angeles, CA.

Michael Jackson

> 4. 0337-05-22, Izmit, Turkey.

Constantine

> 5. 1997-08-31, Paris, France.

Diana, Princess of Wales

> 6. 1826-07-04, Quincy, MA.

John Adams

> 7. 1894-12-03, Vailima, Samoa.

Robert Louis Stevenson

> 8. 1963-11-24, Dallas, TX.

Lee Harvey Oswald
> 9. 1521-04-27, Cebu, Philippines.

Ferdinand Magellan

> 10. 2000-05-27, Montreal, QC.

Pierre Trudeau

> * Game 3, Round 6 - Sports - NHL History
>
> 1. In what year was the NHL founded?

1926
> 2. The NHL was founded as a legal maneuver to squeeze out an
> unpopular franchise owner while the precursor of the NHL was
> temporarily suspended. What was this predecessor league,
> which had a similar name and was founded 8 years earlier?
> (The abbreviation will do.)

NHA
> 4. In what year did the size of the NHL double from 6 to 12 teams?

1967
> 5. 7 years after the league was founded, what US city became the
> first with an NHL team?

Boston; New York

> 6. Who was the first president of the NHL? He held the position
> for just over 25 years, and a trophy is named after him.

Campbell

> For the last three questions, please decode the rot13
> *ONE QUESTION AT A TIME*, after you have finished with
> all previous questions in each case.
>
> 8. Orgjrra 1926 naq 1932, gur Qrgebvg senapuvfr unq gjb bgure anzrf
> orsber frggyvat qbja nf gur Erq Jvatf. Obgu anzrf unccra gb or
> gur cyhenyf bs zbqryf bs pne yngre znqr ol Sbeq. Tvir rvgure
> anzr.

Mustangs; Thunderbirds

> 9. Ba Znepu 13, 1955, n ubpxrl cynlre uvg n yvarfzna qhevat n tnzr.
> Va erfcbafr, AUY cerfvqrag Pynerapr Pnzcoryy fhfcraqrq uvz
> sbe gur erfg bs gur frnfba. Jura Pnzcoryy nggraqrq na AUY
> tnzr 4 qnlf yngre, n evbg oebxr bhg. Jub jnf gur cynlre jub
> jnf fhfcraqrq?

Maurice Richard (?)

> 10. Snzbhfyl, Znhevpr Evpuneq orpnzr gur svefg cynlre gb fpber
> svsgl tbnyf va gur gura 50-tnzr AUY frnfba. Jub jnf gur arkg
> cynlre gb fpber svsgl tbnyf va gur *svefg* 50 tnzrf bs n frnfba?

Wayne Gretzky

--
Joshua Kreitzer
gromit82@hotmail.com

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 by: Dan Tilque - Sun, 9 Oct 2022 11:17 UTC

On 10/8/22 21:50, Mark Brader wrote:
>
>
> * Game 3, Round 4 - History - Who Died?
>
> We give you the date and place of death; you name the famous person
> who died. Note: all place names are the """present-day""" ones.
>
> 1. 1984-10-31, New Delhi, India.

Indira Gandhi

> 2. 2009-06-25, Los Angeles, CA.

Michael Jackson ?

> 3. 1950-07-22, Kingsmere, QC.
> 4. 0337-05-22, Izmit, Turkey.

Emperor Constantine

> 5. 1997-08-31, Paris, France.

Princess Diane

> 6. 1826-07-04, Quincy, MA.

John Adams

> 7. 1894-12-03, Vailima, Samoa.

Stevenson

> 8. 1963-11-24, Dallas, TX.

Lee Harvey Oswald

> 9. 1521-04-27, Cebu, Philippines.

Magellon

> 10. 2000-05-27, Montreal, QC.

Pierre Trudeau ?

>
>
> This round included two extra questions. Answer if you like for
> fun, but for no points.
>
> 11. 1865-04-15, Washington, DC.

Abraham Lincoln

> 12. 1821-05-05, St. Helena.

Napoleon

>
>
> * Game 3, Round 6 - Sports - NHL History
>
> 1. In what year was the NHL founded?

1919

>
> 2. The NHL was founded as a legal maneuver to squeeze out an
> unpopular franchise owner while the precursor of the NHL was
> temporarily suspended. What was this predecessor league,
> which had a similar name and was founded 8 years earlier?
> (The abbreviation will do.)
>
> 3. The Montreal Wanderers were one of four teams that started the
> NHL's inaugural season, but they withdrew from the league early
> in the season. What was the precipitating reason?
>
> 4. In what year did the size of the NHL double from 6 to 12 teams?

1947; 1948

>
> 5. 7 years after the league was founded, what US city became the
> first with an NHL team?

Boston; Detroit

>
> 6. Who was the first president of the NHL? He held the position
> for just over 25 years, and a trophy is named after him.
>
> 7. Initially the NHL had a president; later the league was headed
> by a commissioner. Who was the first person to become
> commissioner of the NHL?
>
> For the last three questions, please decode the rot13
> *ONE QUESTION AT A TIME*, after you have finished with
> all previous questions in each case.
>
> 8. Orgjrra 1926 naq 1932, gur Qrgebvg senapuvfr unq gjb bgure anzrf
> orsber frggyvat qbja nf gur Erq Jvatf. Obgu anzrf unccra gb or
> gur cyhenyf bs zbqryf bs pne yngre znqr ol Sbeq. Tvir rvgure
> anzr.
>
> 9. Ba Znepu 13, 1955, n ubpxrl cynlre uvg n yvarfzna qhevat n tnzr.
> Va erfcbafr, AUY cerfvqrag Pynerapr Pnzcoryy fhfcraqrq uvz
> sbe gur erfg bs gur frnfba. Jura Pnzcoryy nggraqrq na AUY
> tnzr 4 qnlf yngre, n evbg oebxr bhg. Jub jnf gur cynlre jub
> jnf fhfcraqrq?
>
> 10. Snzbhfyl, Znhevpr Evpuneq orpnzr gur svefg cynlre gb fpber
> svsgl tbnyf va gur gura 50-tnzr AUY frnfba. Jub jnf gur arkg
> cynlre gb fpber svsgl tbnyf va gur *svefg* 50 tnzrf bs n frnfba?
>

--
Dan Tilque

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 by: Dan Blum - Sun, 9 Oct 2022 14:22 UTC

Mark Brader <msb@vex.net> wrote:

> * Game 3, Round 4 - History - Who Died?

> 1. 1984-10-31, New Delhi, India.

Indira Gandhi

> 4. 0337-05-22, Izmit, Turkey.

Constantine

> 5. 1997-08-31, Paris, France.

Princess Diana

> 6. 1826-07-04, Quincy, MA.

John Adams

> 8. 1963-11-24, Dallas, TX.

Lee Harvey Oswald

> 9. 1521-04-27, Cebu, Philippines.

Magellan

> 11. 1865-04-15, Washington, DC.

Abraham Lincoln

> 12. 1821-05-05, St. Helena.

Napoleon

> * Game 3, Round 6 - Sports - NHL History

> 2. The NHL was founded as a legal maneuver to squeeze out an
> unpopular franchise owner while the precursor of the NHL was
> temporarily suspended. What was this predecessor league,
> which had a similar name and was founded 8 years earlier?
> (The abbreviation will do.)

NHA

> 5. 7 years after the league was founded, what US city became the
> first with an NHL team?

Boston; Detroit

> 8. Orgjrra 1926 naq 1932, gur Qrgebvg senapuvfr unq gjb bgure anzrf
> orsber frggyvat qbja nf gur Erq Jvatf. Obgu anzrf unccra gb or
> gur cyhenyf bs zbqryf bs pne yngre znqr ol Sbeq. Tvir rvgure
> anzr.

Mustangs

--
_______________________________________________________________________
Dan Blum tool@panix.com
"I wouldn't have believed it myself if I hadn't just made it up."

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Mark Brader (msb@vex.net) writes:
> We give you the date and place of death; you name the famous person
> who died. Note: all place names are the """present-day""" ones.
>
> 1. 1984-10-31, New Delhi, India.

Indira Gandhi

> 4. 0337-05-22, Izmit, Turkey.

Constantine the Great

> 5. 1997-08-31, Paris, France.

Diana Spencer

> 8. 1963-11-24, Dallas, TX.

John F Kennedy

> 9. 1521-04-27, Cebu, Philippines.

Magellan

> * Game 3, Round 6 - Sports - NHL History
>
> 1. In what year was the NHL founded?

1917
> 2. The NHL was founded as a legal maneuver to squeeze out an
> unpopular franchise owner while the precursor of the NHL was
> temporarily suspended. What was this predecessor league,
> which had a similar name and was founded 8 years earlier?
> (The abbreviation will do.)

NHA
> 4. In what year did the size of the NHL double from 6 to 12 teams?

1965

> 5. 7 years after the league was founded, what US city became the
> first with an NHL team?

New York

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 by: Mark Brader - Wed, 12 Oct 2022 04:25 UTC

Mark Brader:
> These questions were written to be asked in Toronto on 2013-02-11,
> and should be interpreted accordingly... For further information...
> see my 2022-09-09 companion posting on "Reposted Questions from
> the Canadian Inquisition (RQFTCI*)".

> * Game 3, Round 4 - History - Who Died?

> We give you the date and place of death; you name the famous person
> who died. Note: all place names are the """present-day""" ones.

None of them have changed.

> 1. 1984-10-31, New Delhi, India.

Indira Gandhi. 4 for everyone -- Joshua, Dan Tilque, Dan Blum,
and Erland.

> 2. 2009-06-25, Los Angeles, CA.

Michael Jackson. Also accepting Farrah Fawcett, who died the same
day in Santa Monica, a suburb of L.A. 4 for Joshua and Dan Tilque.

> 3. 1950-07-22, Kingsmere, QC.

William Lyon Mackenzie King.

> 4. 0337-05-22, Izmit, Turkey.

Emperor Constantine the Great. 4 for everyone.

In 2013 Several people tried Alexander the Great. He died in 323
*BC*, and it wasn't in Turkey.

> 5. 1997-08-31, Paris, France.

Diana, Princess of Wales. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, and Dan Blum.
3 for Erland.

> 6. 1826-07-04, Quincy, MA.

John Adams. 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, and Dan Blum.

> 7. 1894-12-03, Vailima, Samoa.

Robert Louis Stevenson. 4 for Joshua and Dan Tilque.

In 2013 Paul Gauguin was a popular guess. He died in 1903, in
French Polynesia.

> 8. 1963-11-24, Dallas, TX.

Lee Harvey Oswald. (President Kennedy, as everyone knows, was killed
on 1963-11-22.) 4 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, and Dan Blum.

> 9. 1521-04-27, Cebu, Philippines.

Ferdinand Magellan. 4 for everyone.

> 10. 2000-05-27, Montreal, QC.

Maurice "Rocket" Richard.

> This round included two extra questions. Answer if you like for
> fun, but for no points.

> 11. 1865-04-15, Washington, DC.

Abraham Lincoln. Marc, Stan, Joshua, Erland, Stephen, Dan Tilque,
Rob, and Peter got this. Dan Tilque and Dan Blum got this.

> 12. 1821-05-05, St. Helena.

Napoleon Bonaparte. Marc, Stan, Joshua, Bruce, Erland, Stephen, Dan
Tilque, Rob, and Peter got this. Dan Tilque and Dan Blum got this.

> * Game 3, Round 6 - Sports - NHL History

This was the hardest round in the original game, and tied for
second-hardest of the entire season (with Game 2, Round 10).

> 1. In what year was the NHL founded?

1917. 4 for Erland.

> 2. The NHL was founded as a legal maneuver to squeeze out an
> unpopular franchise owner while the precursor of the NHL was
> temporarily suspended. What was this predecessor league,
> which had a similar name and was founded 8 years earlier?
> (The abbreviation will do.)

National Hockey Association (NHA). 4 for Joshua, Dan Blum,
and Erland.

> 3. The Montreal Wanderers were one of four teams that started the
> NHL's inaugural season, but they withdrew from the league early
> in the season. What was the precipitating reason?

Their arena burned down.

I changed the question to say "precipitating reason" because the
Montreal Canadiens had shared the same arena with the Wanderers and
did not fold, they just found another home arena. The Wanderers,
although they were a past Stanley Cup winner, had lost some good
players and were having a bad season. They squeaked out a 10-9 win
in their first game, lost the next three, defaulted two games after
the fire, and then folded with an official 1-5 record.

> 4. In what year did the size of the NHL double from 6 to 12 teams?

1967. It's easy: 25 years from <answer 1> until the league stabilized
at the so-called "original 6" teams, then 25 years with just those
6 teams, then 55 years and counting without the Leafs once winning
the Stanley Cup. 4 for Joshua.

> 5. 7 years after the league was founded, what US city became the
> first with an NHL team?

Boston (Bruins). 3 for Joshua, Dan Tilque, and Dan Blum.

That was 1924, of course; Pittsburgh's short-lived Pirates team
followed in 1925, and Chicago, Detroit, and New York were all added
in 1926.

> 6. Who was the first president of the NHL? He held the position
> for just over 25 years, and a trophy is named after him.

Frank Calder.

> 7. Initially the NHL had a president; later the league was headed
> by a commissioner. Who was the first person to become
> commissioner of the NHL?

Gary Bettman.

> For the last three questions, please decode the rot13
> *ONE QUESTION AT A TIME*, after you have finished with
> all previous questions in each case.

> 8. Between 1926 and 1932, the Detroit franchise had two other names
> before settling down as the Red Wings. Both names happen to be
> the plurals of models of car later made by Ford. Give either
> name.

Cougars, Falcons.

> 9. On March 13, 1955, a hockey player hit a linesman during a game.
> In response, NHL president Clarence Campbell suspended him
> for the rest of the season. When Campbell attended an NHL
> game 4 days later, a riot broke out. Who was the player who
> was suspended?

Maurice "Rocket" Richard (Montreal Canadiens). Yes, him again!
4 for Joshua.

> 10. Famously, Maurice Richard became the first player to score
> fifty goals in the then 50-game NHL season. Who was the next
> player to score fifty goals in the *first* 50 games of a season?

Mike Bossy (New York Islanders).

Richard did it back in 1944-45, a year when many players were in
the military and the quality of play in the league was reduced.
Bossy finally matched the feat in 1980-81, and finished the year
with 68 goals (the season was then 80 games, and he missed one).

Wayne Gretzky was the next to do it after Bossy.

Scores, if there are no errors:

GAME 3 ROUNDS-> 2 3 4 6 TOTALS
TOPICS-> Ent Geo His Spo
Joshua Kreitzer 32 28 32 15 107
Dan Blum 32 32 24 7 95
Dan Tilque 20 16 32 3 71
Erland Sommarskog 4 36 15 8 63

--
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msb@vex.net the square root of all evil.

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On Tuesday, October 11, 2022 at 11:25:25 PM UTC-5, Mark Brader wrote:

> > This round included two extra questions. Answer if you like for
> > fun, but for no points.
>
> > 11. 1865-04-15, Washington, DC.
>
> Abraham Lincoln. Marc, Stan, Joshua, Erland, Stephen, Dan Tilque,
> Rob, and Peter got this. Dan Tilque and Dan Blum got this.
>
> > 12. 1821-05-05, St. Helena.
>
> Napoleon Bonaparte. Marc, Stan, Joshua, Bruce, Erland, Stephen, Dan
> Tilque, Rob, and Peter got this. Dan Tilque and Dan Blum got this.

The first group are the people who answered these questions from the original round in 2013. Only the two Dans answered these questions this time around.

--
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gromit82@hotmail.com

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Joshua Kreitzer:
> The first group are the people who answered these questions from the
> original round in 2013. Only the two Dans answered these questions this
> time around.

Sorry about that, and thanks for the correction.

In editing the rounds for reposting, I usually strip out all the
scoring entrants from the previous round by looking for the pattern
"[0-9] for", and I forgot that this set included some bonus questions
in the middle.
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Toronto | --Steve Summit, regarding a promise
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