On 2023-11-10 3:26 p.m., Tony wrote:
> TGA001 wrote:
>>
>
> What kindda garbage is this?

Something that didn't need to be reposted in it's entirety, it's part of
the current spam flood from Google groups, all the more reason to use a
real news server like Eternal-September.

--
"He who establishes his argument by noise and command shows that his
reason is weak." Michel Eyquem de Montaigne

On 2023/11/10 4:11 p.m., Idlehands wrote:
> On 2023-11-10 3:26 p.m., Tony wrote:
>> TGA001 wrote:
>>>
>>
>> What kindda garbage is this?
>
> Something that didn't need to be reposted in it's entirety, it's part of
> the current spam flood from Google groups, all the more reason to use a
> real news server like Eternal-September.
>
>

Yes, Eternal-September is doing a great job of filtering the crap - I
check the Google Groups via Firefox and there are hundreds of these
nasty spam every day it seems. I just sent them 10 Euros, seemed the
least I could do.

It is obvious that Google doesn't care at all about spam on Usenet. Why
did they bother buying the archives if they aren't going to protect the
users?

Is there anyone to report this to @ Google who actually gives a damn?

John :-#(#
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On 2023-11-16 11:28 p.m., John Robertson wrote:
> On 2023/11/10 4:11 p.m., Idlehands wrote:
>> On 2023-11-10 3:26 p.m., Tony wrote:
>>> TGA001 wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> What kindda garbage is this?
>>
>> Something that didn't need to be reposted in it's entirety, it's part
>> of the current spam flood from Google groups, all the more reason to
>> use a real news server like Eternal-September.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, Eternal-September is doing a great job of filtering the crap - I
> check the Google Groups via Firefox and there are hundreds of these
> nasty spam every day it seems. I just sent them 10 Euros, seemed the
> least I could do.
>
> It is obvious that Google doesn't care at all about spam on Usenet. Why
> did they bother buying the archives if they aren't going to protect the
> users?
>
> Is there anyone to report this to @ Google who actually gives a damn?
>
> John :-#(#

Nope, at least not that I know of, I suspect Google has left Usenet in a
dark and dusty closet and current staff aren't even aware it exists.

--
"He who establishes his argument by noise and command shows that his
reason is weak." Michel Eyquem de Montaigne

Idlehands wrote:
> On 2023-11-16 11:28 p.m., John Robertson wrote:
>> On 2023/11/10 4:11 p.m., Idlehands wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-10 3:26 p.m., Tony wrote:
>>>> TGA001 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What kindda garbage is this?
>>>
>>> Something that didn't need to be reposted in it's entirety, it's part
>>> of the current spam flood from Google groups, all the more reason to
>>> use a real news server like Eternal-September.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yes, Eternal-September is doing a great job of filtering the crap - I
>> check the Google Groups via Firefox and there are hundreds of these
>> nasty spam every day it seems. I just sent them 10 Euros, seemed the
>> least I could do.
>>
>> It is obvious that Google doesn't care at all about spam on Usenet.
>> Why did they bother buying the archives if they aren't going to
>> protect the users?
>>
>> Is there anyone to report this to @ Google who actually gives a damn?
>>
>> John :-#(#
>
> Nope, at least not that I know of, I suspect Google has left Usenet in a
> dark and dusty closet and current staff aren't even aware it exists.
>
>

What happened to all the pinball players? Even Tommy Tutalidge is gone.

On 2023-11-18 11:18 a.m., Tony wrote:
> Idlehands wrote:
>> On 2023-11-16 11:28 p.m., John Robertson wrote:
>>> On 2023/11/10 4:11 p.m., Idlehands wrote:
>>>> On 2023-11-10 3:26 p.m., Tony wrote:
>>>>> TGA001 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What kindda garbage is this?
>>>>
>>>> Something that didn't need to be reposted in it's entirety, it's
>>>> part of the current spam flood from Google groups, all the more
>>>> reason to use a real news server like Eternal-September.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, Eternal-September is doing a great job of filtering the crap - I
>>> check the Google Groups via Firefox and there are hundreds of these
>>> nasty spam every day it seems. I just sent them 10 Euros, seemed the
>>> least I could do.
>>>
>>> It is obvious that Google doesn't care at all about spam on Usenet.
>>> Why did they bother buying the archives if they aren't going to
>>> protect the users?
>>>
>>> Is there anyone to report this to @ Google who actually gives a damn?
>>>
>>> John :-#(#
>>
>> Nope, at least not that I know of, I suspect Google has left Usenet in
>> a dark and dusty closet and current staff aren't even aware it exists.
>>
>>
>
> What happened to all the pinball players? Even Tommy Tutalidge is gone.

Migrated to Pinside in the great schism years ago I suspect. Usenet was
once the goto place but it seems the lack of moderation scared newcomers
off.

My theory any ways.

--
"He who establishes his argument by noise and command shows that his
reason is weak." Michel Eyquem de Montaigne

On 11/18/2023 1:17 PM, Idlehands wrote:
> On 2023-11-18 11:18 a.m., Tony wrote:
>> Idlehands wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-16 11:28 p.m., John Robertson wrote:
>>>> On 2023/11/10 4:11 p.m., Idlehands wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-11-10 3:26 p.m., Tony wrote:
>>>>>> TGA001 wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What kindda garbage is this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Something that didn't need to be reposted in it's entirety, it's
>>>>> part of the current spam flood from Google groups, all the more
>>>>> reason to use a real news server like Eternal-September.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Eternal-September is doing a great job of filtering the crap -
>>>> I check the Google Groups via Firefox and there are hundreds of
>>>> these nasty spam every day it seems. I just sent them 10 Euros,
>>>> seemed the least I could do.
>>>>
>>>> It is obvious that Google doesn't care at all about spam on Usenet.
>>>> Why did they bother buying the archives if they aren't going to
>>>> protect the users?
>>>>
>>>> Is there anyone to report this to @ Google who actually gives a damn?
>>>>
>>>> John :-#(#
>>>
>>> Nope, at least not that I know of, I suspect Google has left Usenet
>>> in a dark and dusty closet and current staff aren't even aware it
>>> exists.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What happened to all the pinball players? Even Tommy Tutalidge is gone.
>
> Migrated to Pinside in the great schism years ago I suspect. Usenet was
> once the goto place but it seems the lack of moderation scared newcomers
> off.
>
> My theory any ways.
>

I think what blocks newcomers is that it takes a small, but not trivial,
amount of work to set up USENET access. Google Groups helped a lot with
this, but they lost most users when they "improved" their interface.

Another problem is that I don't think there is any good way to access
USENET from iPhone or Android.

- Kerry

On 2023/11/21 8:06 a.m., Kerry Imming wrote:
> On 11/18/2023 1:17 PM, Idlehands wrote:
>> On 2023-11-18 11:18 a.m., Tony wrote:
>>> Idlehands wrote:
>>>> On 2023-11-16 11:28 p.m., John Robertson wrote:
>>>>> On 2023/11/10 4:11 p.m., Idlehands wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-11-10 3:26 p.m., Tony wrote:
>>>>>>> TGA001 wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What kindda garbage is this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something that didn't need to be reposted in it's entirety, it's
>>>>>> part of the current spam flood from Google groups, all the more
>>>>>> reason to use a real news server like Eternal-September.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, Eternal-September is doing a great job of filtering the crap -
>>>>> I check the Google Groups via Firefox and there are hundreds of
>>>>> these nasty spam every day it seems. I just sent them 10 Euros,
>>>>> seemed the least I could do.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is obvious that Google doesn't care at all about spam on Usenet.
>>>>> Why did they bother buying the archives if they aren't going to
>>>>> protect the users?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anyone to report this to @ Google who actually gives a damn?
>>>>>
>>>>> John :-#(#
>>>>
>>>> Nope, at least not that I know of, I suspect Google has left Usenet
>>>> in a dark and dusty closet and current staff aren't even aware it
>>>> exists.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> What happened to all the pinball players? Even Tommy Tutalidge is gone.
>>
>> Migrated to Pinside in the great schism years ago I suspect. Usenet
>> was once the goto place but it seems the lack of moderation scared
>> newcomers off.
>>
>> My theory any ways.
>>
>
> I think what blocks newcomers is that it takes a small, but not trivial,
> amount of work to set up USENET access.  Google Groups helped a lot with
> this, but they lost most users when they "improved" their interface.
>
> Another problem is that I don't think there is any good way to access
> USENET from iPhone or Android.
>
> - Kerry
Wolfgang (E-T guy) suggested NewsTap for the iPad - he says it is too
tiny for the iPhone screen. I am going to play with the free version and
then buy the $4.99 version if it works...
John :-#)#
--
(Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
John's Jukes Ltd.
#7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
(604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> wrote:
> On 2023/11/21 8:06 a.m., Kerry Imming wrote:
>> On 11/18/2023 1:17 PM, Idlehands wrote:
>>> On 2023-11-18 11:18 a.m., Tony wrote:
>>>> Idlehands wrote:
>>>>> On 2023-11-16 11:28 p.m., John Robertson wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023/11/10 4:11 p.m., Idlehands wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2023-11-10 3:26 p.m., Tony wrote:
>>>>>>>> TGA001 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What kindda garbage is this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Something that didn't need to be reposted in it's entirety, it's
>>>>>>> part of the current spam flood from Google groups, all the more
>>>>>>> reason to use a real news server like Eternal-September.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, Eternal-September is doing a great job of filtering the crap -
>>>>>> I check the Google Groups via Firefox and there are hundreds of
>>>>>> these nasty spam every day it seems. I just sent them 10 Euros,
>>>>>> seemed the least I could do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is obvious that Google doesn't care at all about spam on Usenet.
>>>>>> Why did they bother buying the archives if they aren't going to
>>>>>> protect the users?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there anyone to report this to @ Google who actually gives a damn?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John :-#(#
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope, at least not that I know of, I suspect Google has left Usenet
>>>>> in a dark and dusty closet and current staff aren't even aware it
>>>>> exists.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What happened to all the pinball players? Even Tommy Tutalidge is gone.
>>>
>>> Migrated to Pinside in the great schism years ago I suspect. Usenet
>>> was once the goto place but it seems the lack of moderation scared
>>> newcomers off.
>>>
>>> My theory any ways.
>>>
>>
>> I think what blocks newcomers is that it takes a small, but not trivial,
>> amount of work to set up USENET access.  Google Groups helped a lot with
>> this, but they lost most users when they "improved" their interface.
>>
>> Another problem is that I don't think there is any good way to access
>> USENET from iPhone or Android.
>>
>> - Kerry
>
> Wolfgang (E-T guy) suggested NewsTap for the iPad - he says it is too
> tiny for the iPhone screen. I am going to play with the free version and
> then buy the $4.99 version if it works...
>
> John :-#)#

OK, I am replying to my post using the free NewsTap on my iPhone 6. It is
about as easy to use as email - I am happy with this interface!

This is well worth supporting by buying the paid version of NewsTap.

And don’t forget to send some $$ to https://www.eternal-september.org as I
am sure they have expenses…

John :-#)#
(Have yet to build my signature…)