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by: Peter Stewart - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 01:04 UTC

On 22-Jul-23 5:31 PM, George Tsambourakis wrote:
> Does anyone know the parents of Ninfa? And Brother/Sisters? She married The Marqui of Mezzojuso Melchiore Corvino and her daughter (I know) married the Prince of Castelbuono Francesco Ventimiglia.(16th Century)

According to this
https://books.google.com.au/books?id=9grfzIOb6cEC&pg=PA395 Ninfa
Groppo's daughter Giovanna Corvino married Girolamo Ventimiglia, by whom
she was mother to Francesco, prince of Belmontino and Giuseppe, marquis
of Mezzojuso.

Peter Stewart

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by: George Tsambourakis - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 01:35 UTC

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:05:03 AM UTC+10, Peter Stewart wrote:
> On 22-Jul-23 5:31 PM, George Tsambourakis wrote:
> > Does anyone know the parents of Ninfa? And Brother/Sisters? She married The Marqui of Mezzojuso Melchiore Corvino and her daughter (I know) married the Prince of Castelbuono Francesco Ventimiglia.(16th Century)
> According to this
> https://books.google.com.au/books?id=9grfzIOb6cEC&pg=PA395 Ninfa
> Groppo's daughter Giovanna Corvino married Girolamo Ventimiglia, by whom
> she was mother to Francesco, prince of Belmontino and Giuseppe, marquis
> of Mezzojuso.
>
> Peter Stewart
>
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Yes, Giovanna was born 1640. She was a very good mother, her grandchildren and great Grandchildren married very well in noble families like Spinosa, Sanseverino, etc.

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by: Peter Stewart - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 04:22 UTC

On 23-Jul-23 11:35 AM, George Tsambourakis wrote:
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:05:03 AM UTC+10, Peter Stewart wrote:
>> On 22-Jul-23 5:31 PM, George Tsambourakis wrote:
>>> Does anyone know the parents of Ninfa? And Brother/Sisters? She married The Marqui of Mezzojuso Melchiore Corvino and her daughter (I know) married the Prince of Castelbuono Francesco Ventimiglia.(16th Century)
>> According to this
>> https://books.google.com.au/books?id=9grfzIOb6cEC&pg=PA395 Ninfa
>> Groppo's daughter Giovanna Corvino married Girolamo Ventimiglia, by whom
>> she was mother to Francesco, prince of Belmontino and Giuseppe, marquis
>> of Mezzojuso.
>>
>> Peter Stewart
>>
>> --
>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
>> www.avg.com
> Yes, Giovanna was born 1640. She was a very good mother, her grandchildren and great Grandchildren married very well in noble families like Spinosa, Sanseverino, etc.

I'm not at all sure what your "Yes" is agreeing to - 1640 is in the 17th
century by English-speaking convention, not the 16th as stated in your
post, while your assertion that the daughter of Ninfa Groppo and
Melchiore Corvino married Francesco Ventimiglia is contradicted by the
book linked above clearly identifying her husband as Girolamo.

Peter Stewart

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by: George Tsambourakis - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 06:36 UTC

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:22:30 PM UTC+10, Peter Stewart wrote:
> On 23-Jul-23 11:35 AM, George Tsambourakis wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:05:03 AM UTC+10, Peter Stewart wrote:
> >> On 22-Jul-23 5:31 PM, George Tsambourakis wrote:
> >>> Does anyone know the parents of Ninfa? And Brother/Sisters? She married The Marqui of Mezzojuso Melchiore Corvino and her daughter (I know) married the Prince of Castelbuono Francesco Ventimiglia.(16th Century)
> >> According to this
> >> https://books.google.com.au/books?id=9grfzIOb6cEC&pg=PA395 Ninfa
> >> Groppo's daughter Giovanna Corvino married Girolamo Ventimiglia, by whom
> >> she was mother to Francesco, prince of Belmontino and Giuseppe, marquis
> >> of Mezzojuso.
> >>
> >> Peter Stewart
> >>
> >> --
> >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
> >> www.avg.com
> > Yes, Giovanna was born 1640. She was a very good mother, her grandchildren and great Grandchildren married very well in noble families like Spinosa, Sanseverino, etc.
> I'm not at all sure what your "Yes" is agreeing to - 1640 is in the 17th
> century by English-speaking convention, not the 16th as stated in your
> post, while your assertion that the daughter of Ninfa Groppo and
> Melchiore Corvino married Francesco Ventimiglia is contradicted by the
> book linked above clearly identifying her husband as Girolamo.
>
> Peter Stewart
Giovanna was Ninfas youngest daughter born about 1640. Melchiore is a man, the husband of Ninfa. You are right about Ninfa, she was born about 1620 (20 years later than I thought).

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by: Peter Stewart - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 08:27 UTC

On 23-Jul-23 4:36 PM, George Tsambourakis wrote:
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:22:30 PM UTC+10, Peter Stewart wrote:
>> On 23-Jul-23 11:35 AM, George Tsambourakis wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:05:03 AM UTC+10, Peter Stewart wrote:
>>>> On 22-Jul-23 5:31 PM, George Tsambourakis wrote:
>>>>> Does anyone know the parents of Ninfa? And Brother/Sisters? She married The Marqui of Mezzojuso Melchiore Corvino and her daughter (I know) married the Prince of Castelbuono Francesco Ventimiglia.(16th Century)
>>>> According to this
>>>> https://books.google.com.au/books?id=9grfzIOb6cEC&pg=PA395 Ninfa
>>>> Groppo's daughter Giovanna Corvino married Girolamo Ventimiglia, by whom
>>>> she was mother to Francesco, prince of Belmontino and Giuseppe, marquis
>>>> of Mezzojuso.
>>>>
>>>> Peter Stewart
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
>>>> www.avg.com
>>> Yes, Giovanna was born 1640. She was a very good mother, her grandchildren and great Grandchildren married very well in noble families like Spinosa, Sanseverino, etc.
>> I'm not at all sure what your "Yes" is agreeing to - 1640 is in the 17th
>> century by English-speaking convention, not the 16th as stated in your
>> post, while your assertion that the daughter of Ninfa Groppo and
>> Melchiore Corvino married Francesco Ventimiglia is contradicted by the
>> book linked above clearly identifying her husband as Girolamo.
>>
>> Peter Stewart
> Giovanna was Ninfas youngest daughter born about 1640. Melchiore is a man, the husband of Ninfa. You are right about Ninfa, she was born about 1620 (20 years later than I thought).

Once again without providing any support for your alleged information
you are contradicting the book linked above - according to this, the
youngest daughter of Melchiore Corvino and Ninfa Groppo was Francesca,
wife of Giuseppe Platamone. Her marriage contract was dated 15 May 1668,
indicating that she was probably born well after 1640.

Peter Stewart

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by: George Tsa - Sun, 23 Jul 2023 08:56 UTC

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 6:27:51 PM UTC+10, Peter Stewart wrote:
> On 23-Jul-23 4:36 PM, George Tsambourakis wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:22:30 PM UTC+10, Peter Stewart wrote:
> >> On 23-Jul-23 11:35 AM, George Tsambourakis wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:05:03 AM UTC+10, Peter Stewart wrote:
> >>>> On 22-Jul-23 5:31 PM, George Tsambourakis wrote:
> >>>>> Does anyone know the parents of Ninfa? And Brother/Sisters? She married The Marqui of Mezzojuso Melchiore Corvino and her daughter (I know) married the Prince of Castelbuono Francesco Ventimiglia.(16th Century)
> >>>> According to this
> >>>> https://books.google.com.au/books?id=9grfzIOb6cEC&pg=PA395 Ninfa
> >>>> Groppo's daughter Giovanna Corvino married Girolamo Ventimiglia, by whom
> >>>> she was mother to Francesco, prince of Belmontino and Giuseppe, marquis
> >>>> of Mezzojuso.
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter Stewart
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software.
> >>>> www.avg.com
> >>> Yes, Giovanna was born 1640. She was a very good mother, her grandchildren and great Grandchildren married very well in noble families like Spinosa, Sanseverino, etc.
> >> I'm not at all sure what your "Yes" is agreeing to - 1640 is in the 17th
> >> century by English-speaking convention, not the 16th as stated in your
> >> post, while your assertion that the daughter of Ninfa Groppo and
> >> Melchiore Corvino married Francesco Ventimiglia is contradicted by the
> >> book linked above clearly identifying her husband as Girolamo.
> >>
> >> Peter Stewart
> > Giovanna was Ninfas youngest daughter born about 1640. Melchiore is a man, the husband of Ninfa. You are right about Ninfa, she was born about 1620 (20 years later than I thought).
> Once again without providing any support for your alleged information
> you are contradicting the book linked above - according to this, the
> youngest daughter of Melchiore Corvino and Ninfa Groppo was Francesca,
> wife of Giuseppe Platamone. Her marriage contract was dated 15 May 1668,
> indicating that she was probably born well after 1640.
>
> Peter Stewart
You are of course right. Francesca was born 1650, 10 years later. I forgot her, my memory is not as good as it used to.

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Ninfa Groppo, Princess of Belmontino	George Tsambourakis
Ninfa Groppo, Princess of Belmontino	Peter Stewart
Ninfa Groppo, Princess of Belmontino	George Tsambourakis
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Ninfa Groppo, Princess of Belmontino	George Tsa